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Darkfall Online IS a rip off / scam

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  • reillanreillan Member UncommonPosts: 247
    Originally posted by Moaky07
    Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.
    That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.
    I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.
    So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.
    The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.
    Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh

     

    [Citation Needed]

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Moaky07

    Originally posted by Copeland

     



    Originally posted by Irishoak
    Slander is spoken, libel is usually written, even in Florida.  Florida recognizes "opinion" as a defense.

     
    True. It's libel not slander.
    Anyway it was just a thought that creeped into my hungover head at 5am so take it for what it's worth.. not much LOL
    I just love that people jump to "it's a scam" because it gets off to rough start or the company is doing whatever it needs to get off the ground.
    Sure it's near impossible to buy the game. It's full of hackers and bugs.
    I honestly don't see anything unusual or unexpected in anything that has transpired with this launch. As a matter of fact i recall pre-launch that AV said there would be limited quantities available and that they could only afford to have 1 server up at launch.

     
    Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.
    That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.
    I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.
    So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.
    The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.
    Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh



    LOL i stopped reading after you called me a fanboi. I wouldn't touch this pig with a 800 ft poker HAHA..

    Ok read some of it. Yeah i'm sure it's AV's intent to get people to buy the game.. Since in reality it's almost impossible to actually do so. Maybe they just haven't had time to update their site.

    Oh and actually i'm hungover yet still a little drunk.. i hate that.. i think i might just start drinking again.. it is 6am now LOL i love vacations!

  • Moaky07Moaky07 Member Posts: 2,096
    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by Moaky07


    Originally posted by Copeland
     
     

     



    Originally posted by Irishoak

    Slander is spoken, libel is usually written, even in Florida.  Florida recognizes "opinion" as a defense.


     

    True. It's libel not slander.

    Anyway it was just a thought that creeped into my hungover head at 5am so take it for what it's worth.. not much LOL

    I just love that people jump to "it's a scam" because it gets off to rough start or the company is doing whatever it needs to get off the ground.

    Sure it's near impossible to buy the game. It's full of hackers and bugs.

    I honestly don't see anything unusual or unexpected in anything that has transpired with this launch. As a matter of fact i recall pre-launch that AV said there would be limited quantities available and that they could only afford to have 1 server up at launch.


     

     

    Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.

    That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.

    I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.

    So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.

    The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.

    Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh



     



    LOL i stopped reading after you called me a fanboi. I wouldn't touch this pig with a 800 ft poker HAHA..

    Ok read some of it. Yeah i'm sure it's AV's intent to get people to buy the game.. Since in reality it's almost impossible to actually do so. Maybe they just haven't had time to update their site.

    I listened.

     

    I listened to you try to explain away how you screwed up. Toe jam tasting good this morning? Looks like you got a nice bite of it having stuck your foot in your mouth like ya did.

    You got something else to say? I didnt think so. Know what you are talking about before opening the yap next time, and there wont be a problem.

    And to the person wanting a citation...I gave the exact definition earlier in thread. If you wanna look it up yourself then http://www.m-w.com/  is your animal.

    Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    Anyway i'm out.

    It's not a scam. It's poorly run company that launched a poorly developed mmo and they had no prior experience with either running a company or producing a game.

    Honestly most of us are just amazed they actually got to this point.

    There's no defense for stupid. You either are or you aren't. Being stupid and expecting someone to care that you were that stupid doesn't mean that we have to care. Actually it probably means we'll be laughing our asses off at you as you cry WAH it's a SCAM!

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Moaky07
    Originally posted by Copeland  

    Originally posted by Moaky07

    Originally posted by Copeland
     
     
     
    Originally posted by Irishoak
    Slander is spoken, libel is usually written, even in Florida.  Florida recognizes "opinion" as a defense.
     
    True. It's libel not slander.
    Anyway it was just a thought that creeped into my hungover head at 5am so take it for what it's worth.. not much LOL
    I just love that people jump to "it's a scam" because it gets off to rough start or the company is doing whatever it needs to get off the ground.
    Sure it's near impossible to buy the game. It's full of hackers and bugs.
    I honestly don't see anything unusual or unexpected in anything that has transpired with this launch. As a matter of fact i recall pre-launch that AV said there would be limited quantities available and that they could only afford to have 1 server up at launch.



     
     
    Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.
    That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.
    I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.
    So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.
    The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.
    Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh



     

    LOL i stopped reading after you called me a fanboi. I wouldn't touch this pig with a 800 ft poker HAHA..
    Ok read some of it. Yeah i'm sure it's AV's intent to get people to buy the game.. Since in reality it's almost impossible to actually do so. Maybe they just haven't had time to update their site.



    I listened.
     
    I listened to you try to explain away how you screwed up. Toe jam tasting good this morning? Looks like you got a nice bite of it having stuck your foot in your mouth like ya did.
    You got something else to say? I didnt think so. Know what you are talking about before opening the yap next time, and there wont be a problem.
    And to the person wanting a citation...I gave the exact definition earlier in thread. If you wanna look it up yourself then http://www.m-w.com/  is your animal.

    Seriously man you have issues. Arguing over a horrible game on the internet with a drunk guy who's just amazed that anyone with half a brain cell would purchase this game in the first place.

  • Moaky07Moaky07 Member Posts: 2,096
    Originally posted by Copeland


    Anyway i'm out.
    It's not a scam. It's poorly run company that launched a poorly developed mmo and they had no prior experience with either running a company or producing a game.
    Honestly most of us are just amazed they actually got to this point.
    There's no defense for stupid. You either are or you aren't. Being stupid and expecting someone to care that you were that stupid doesn't mean that we have to care. Actually it probably means we'll be laughing our asses off at you as you cry WAH it's a SCAM!
     



     

    Boy I gotta hand it to ya...you really are as pig headed as you are ignorant.

    Shown by definition you are wrong. Yet still carrying on convinced you are "correct".

    To think you have the audacity to call others "stupid". heh

    "Hopeless" should be your forum handle methinks. You can lead a horse to water so to speak....

    Anyways like I indicated...athough the OP was technically correct, it was an obvious troll post.

    I have no clue which way your game is going to go DFers. For your sakes, I hope it does well. But until Tacos removes that web page he is scamming folks into playing his game.

    The web site should be offering facts...not things that have been removed, and have no chance of ever being included as it has been stated on forums otherwise. It may indeed be a technicality...but it is what it is...and that is scamming folks.

    Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410

    Darkfall is not a scam because I'm enjoying the game because its the best game evar, so its not a scam.

    Every single other MMO has had all the same exact launch problems as Darkfall and most were even worse so stop whining, LOL at ignorant WoW players.

    I actually did "research" on the game before buying it, LOL at anyone who did not do "research" on a game before buying it, instead of foolishly just looking at the official website and reading its FAQ or stupidly reading any of the last 8 years of official information released by the developers about Darkfall and thinking even half of all those features and content would actually be implemented.

    LOL at all the jealous haters and blizzard employees who come to this forum to troll and lie about this wonderful awesome hardcore adrenaline rush game that's such a threat to their care bare games.

    Pathetic that all the no lifers come here to criticise this game all day, all the successful,intelligent, rational and objective common sense fans of this game who actually have life's are forced to spend their valuable time correcting all the lies and misinformation instead of playing this incredible next generation revolutionary advanced ground breaking game when the server is up or doing any of the other things successful, intelligent rational and objective common sense fans of this game do when they are not playing this game when the server is up or defending it on internet forums from the WoW playing troll haters and their lies.

    Aventurine are a small independent game developer working hard every day to bring us the best game ever for a premium price plus the industry standard monthly subscription cost , LOL at anyone who was expecting unnecessary things from care bare game developers like professionalism, competence, community relations and customer/technical support.

    Its not a scam because i like it.

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Moaky07
    Originally posted by Copeland Anyway i'm out.
    It's not a scam. It's poorly run company that launched a poorly developed mmo and they had no prior experience with either running a company or producing a game.
    Honestly most of us are just amazed they actually got to this point.
    There's no defense for stupid. You either are or you aren't. Being stupid and expecting someone to care that you were that stupid doesn't mean that we have to care. Actually it probably means we'll be laughing our asses off at you as you cry WAH it's a SCAM!
     

     
    Boy I gotta hand it to ya...you really are as pig headed as you are ignorant.
    Shown by definition you are wrong. Yet still carrying on convinced you are "correct".
    To think you have the audacity to call others "stupid". heh
    "Hopeless" should be your forum handle methinks. You can lead a horse to water so to speak....
    Anyways like I indicated...athough the OP was technically correct, it was an obvious troll post.
    I have no clue which way your game is going to go DFers. For your sakes, I hope it does well. But until Tacos removes that web page he is scamming folks into playing his game.
    The web site should be offering facts...not things that have been removed, and have no chance of ever being included as it has been stated on forums otherwise. It may indeed be a technicality...but it is what it is...and that is scamming folks.


    "I said I'm going to get extra meat this time. But he didn't even put extra shrimp in there," the woman told a 911 dispatcher. "I asked him, 'Can I get any extra shrimp, or can you give my money back?' And he started hollering. So I just said, 'I'm going to call the police.'"

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Polarization
    Darkfall is not a scam because I'm enjoying the game because its the best game evar, so its not a scam.
    Every single other MMO has had all the same exact launch problems as Darkfall and most were even worse so stop whining, LOL at ignorant WoW players.
    I actually did "research" on the game before buying it, LOL at anyone who did not do "research" on a game before buying it, instead of foolishly just looking at the official website and reading its FAQ or stupidly reading any of the last 8 years of official information released by the developers about Darkfall and thinking even half of all those features and content would actually be implemented.
    LOL at all the jealous haters and blizzard employees who come to this forum to troll and lie about this wonderful awesome hardcore adrenaline rush game that's such a threat to their care bare games.
    Pathetic that all the no lifers come here to criticise this game all day, all the successful,intelligent, rational and objective common sense fans of this game who actually have life's are forced to spend their valuable time correcting all the lies and misinformation instead of playing this incredible next generation revolutionary advanced ground breaking game when the servers are up or doing any of the other things successful, intelligent rational and objective common sense fans of this game do when they are not playing this game when the servers are up or defending it on internet forums from the WoW playing troll haters and their lies.
    Aventurine are a small independent game developer working hard every day to bring us the best game ever for a premium price plus the industry standard monthly subscription cost , LOL at anyone who was expecting unnecessary things from care bare game developers like professionalism, competence, community relations and customer/technical support.
    Its not a scam because i like it.

    "It's pretty good, I'm not gonna lie," Alfredo Martinez said. When asked how much shrimp he usually gets in his fried rice Martinez replied, "I don't really count it, but a pretty good amount."

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955

    sorry those last 2 quotes just struck me as a familiar argument.

    One person calling the police saying they were scammed because they didn't get enough shrimp in their shrimp fried rice.

    Another person saying the shrimp was adequate.

  • rengwerdarengwerda Member Posts: 21

    well said, though a bit over the top... :) 

    most of the haters, are bitchin coz they cant buy the game. and thats not because they cant buy it. Its because their mummy's wont let them stay up that late to get onto the shop.

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410
    Originally posted by Copeland


    sorry those last 2 quotes just struck me as a familiar argument.
    One person calling the police saying they were scammed because they didn't get enough shrimp in their shrimp fried rice.
    Another person saying the shrimp was adequate.

    I agree, most people who have actually played the game generally do all seem to find the amount of shrimp in Darkfall adequate for the most part.

    I think most of the people claiming Darkfall does not contain enough shrimp have actually not played the game yet, so they cant accurately access the amount of shrimp it may or may not contain because of their ill-informed opinion based on the lies and misinformation propagated by the "DArkfall does not contain the amount of shrimp as advertised" bunch.

    Stop whining and buy the game yourself, I can assure you it does contain the amount of shrimp we were promised and any remaining portion of that hypothetical promised shrimp that may or may not actually currently be implemented will be coming soon.

    The rest of the shrimp is coming soon, Tasos has never lied about the amount of shrimp because he did not make any shrimp promises only shrimp predictions.

    So buy Darkfall as soon as possible and don't miss out on all this fantastic shrimp goodness, ignore the shrimp haters and their lies they are only jealous that they cant enjoy all this shrimp with the rest of us.

  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269

    I quite like shrimp but I would never have it in a restaurant, or most seafood for that matter. I just don't trust it unless I prepared it myself.

     

     

    No hidden analogy here, I just can't eat seafood in a restaurant and thought I'd share. Also the talk of shrimp was making me hungry

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  • SpiiderSpiider Member RarePosts: 1,135

    I haven't played darkfall yet but saying that it's a scam because it got released before it got fixed is calling AoC, SWG, EVE, WOW, AO (remember that fiasco?), Vanguard and all other games a scam also.

    Only good release I remember is LOTRO. But game sucks so meh.:)

    If you don't like it just don't play or pay for it.

    No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.

  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by Copeland


    sorry those last 2 quotes just struck me as a familiar argument.
    One person calling the police saying they were scammed because they didn't get enough shrimp in their shrimp fried rice.
    Another person saying the shrimp was adequate.

    I agree, most people who have actually played the game generally do all seem to find the amount of shrimp in Darkfall adequate for the most part.

    I think most of the people claiming Darkfall does not contain enough shrimp have actually not played the game yet, so they cant accurately access the amount of shrimp it may or may not contain because of their ill-informed opinion based on the lies and misinformation propagated by the "DArkfall does not contain the amount of shrimp as advertised" bunch.

    Stop whining and buy the game yourself, I can assure you it does contain the amount of shrimp we were promised and any remaining portion of that hypothetical promised shrimp that may or may not actually currently be implemented will be coming soon.

    The rest of the shrimp is coming soon, Tasos has never lied about the amount of shrimp because he did not make any shrimp promises only shrimp predictions.

    So buy Darkfall as soon as possible and don't miss out on all this fantastic shrimp goodness, ignore the shrimp haters and their lies they are only jealous that they cant enjoy all this shrimp with the rest of us.

       But i'm afraid that you forget that  Darkfall is so hardcore that it's not the player that eats the shrimp but the shrimp that eats the player, hence the whole shrimp analogy was flawed from the begining

     

     

     

    Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*

  • YamotaYamota Member UncommonPosts: 6,593

    Definition of scam from wikipedia:

    A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, or swindle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence.

    From that definition I would say this game is probably a scam, yes.

  • Kain_DaleKain_Dale Member UncommonPosts: 378

    7+ years of developement, they have plenty time to polish.. I guess they are just lazy to do it until the customer tells them what to fix.  Of course, thats what beta is for and they should have beta last longer to polish things up before release.

    Kain_Dale

  • Hammertime1Hammertime1 Member Posts: 619

    I think that the OP needs to learn the definition of words before he uses them.

     

     

     

     

  • Mopar63Mopar63 Member UncommonPosts: 300

    To the OP, Darkfall is NOT a scam...

    It IS a peice of crap software, it IS a paid beta, it ISa developer that has no clue but at no time is it a scam.

     

     

     

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052

    Let me tell you what is the real scam.  Some of these other games that take power away from one class and give it to another.  Patching in stuff that makes your stuff obsolete.  Putting out expansions that make you chase that carrot for a little longer.  Releasing the same content with new skin.  Releasing the same content but a little harder.  Don't come into this forum all high and mighty.  Go play your own scam game you hypocrites.

  • LiquidWolfLiquidWolf Member CommonPosts: 516

    I have the OP blocked... for a long time now.



    I really wish I couldn't SEE threads by people i've blocked.

    In any event, Darkfall Online is not a scam, it's just a game like many other's that have been released... constantly debugging, constantly putting in new features and areas.

    Don't play if you don't like it...

    Oh,

    scam (skm) Slang

    n.

    A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.

    tr.v. scammed, scam·ming, scams

    To defraud; swindle.

    People are getting a product they are paying for.

    That doesn't seem to match the current definition of scam.

  • tyfontyfon Member UncommonPosts: 240
    Originally posted by LiquidWolf
    I really wish I couldn't SEE threads by people i've blocked.

    Ignorance is bliss

  • HELLBITCHHELLBITCH Member Posts: 87
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Omyicanfly

    Originally posted by daarco


    AoC, WAR, WoW or any other crap that we have seen the last few years.



     

    All those games are 100 levels above Darkfall in every single way possible and are commercial grade professionally produced products that are playable.

     



     

    People tend to say so, but we havent seen any proof yet. Just some class/level grind with some static mobs. Not a real MMORPG.



     

    At least in those games we don't see people running like ostritches fully nakedwhen it wouldn't be possible for the character to do it without some external add-on (I don't include AoC, that's a scam too). You fanbois piss me off so much, even after you have been CLEARLY conned & owned by the companies...you still lie to yourselves pretending the shit you are playing is what you always ever wanted.

    666

  • akiira69akiira69 Member UncommonPosts: 615
    Originally posted by Omyicanfly


    This is a non debatable fact. This game IS a scam / rip off.
    Why?
    Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.
    They accepted a limited amount of orders for no other reason than to raise money for development.
    Darkfall Online is a SCAM.
     



     

    Umm 2 things you fail to see

    1) All games for the first couple of months still have bugs in them, that wasnt caught in Closed or Open Beta. It is technically impossible to catch every bug thats in the game.

    2)From what I have seen about the bug content of the game, Darkfalls launch pales in comparison to Vanguards Launch which was bad enough to warrent Sigil Games selling it to SOE and causing SOE to do a Server merge less than 1 year live.

    "Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"

  • XaaaXaaa Member Posts: 34
    Originally posted by jezvin


    Umm no they fully delivered the producted I bought. I knew what it was and I still wanted it.



     

    Congrats.  Compared to gamers who appreciate a game that isn't trash, you are quite the moron.  I'm glad you like DarkFail.  But liking Dark Fail doesn't mean you aren't a moron.  You are a Grade A moronic failure of the highest order.

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