I'd have to give to video, even though low quality, two thumbs up. I don't think you can make a call on how good the combat will be from that but it certainly looks like a good start.
It looked like the blocking wasn't blocking much and the range on weapons seemed quite large but that stuff can be fixed.
The PVP not so much, looked great and gory, but i'm not sure alot will be attracted to it bc of the first person view and perhaps its a bit too slow, perhaps its just me
I was impressed by the speed, and variety of the combat, its more realistic, and looks more brutal (I do not mean blood and FX, i mean going toe to toe with your foe in a game a strategic swordplay FOR YOUR LIFE and honor) , and perhaps quicker to down someone, but much more oriented towards using the combat system instead of combating pools of hit points.
I guess what i am trying to say is less like typical MMO's, and more like bushido blade (that's an extreme, i know, but it does look like it leans more towards that) I noticed stances, direction slices, and active blocking and parrying.... Just my observations from that video.
If combat is that involved, i don't need huge numbers...that alone will be exciting. Instead of Quake like in an out trying to land a hit.
My first reaction was that combat was a bit slow paced. But after thinking about it, I agree with you. I would like to see a game that can make active blcking and parrying work. A game where out thinking your opponent means something. Not just having better twitch skills, but using your brain a bit.
I hope it works out in the end. But I will be skeptical untill the game is out. Every feature claimed by a MMO company is meaningless untill it is in the game and working. We see this with every game launched. I will hope for the best though.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
Actualy in my personal opinion the Darkfall beta hype video (the 17 minute one) was much better than MOs. It showed off alot more stuff and things to do ingame, more like a real MMORPG, MO didnt show much at all.
1 thing - graphics and animations are nice, perhaps melee is better, world building are much poorer than DF
Actualy in my personal opinion the Darkfall beta hype video (the 17 minute one) was much better than MOs. It showed off alot more stuff and things to do ingame, more like a real MMORPG, MO didnt show much at all.
1 thing - graphics and animations are nice, perhaps melee is better, world building are much poorer than DF
Thats all we can see right now from this video
I don't agree that world building is poor compared to DF. The only thing I could agree is that DF showed a 17 minute video and MO showed an almost 5 minute one. I'm sure if they made a 17 minute one they would include many other facets of gameplay that were ready to be shown in a beta state.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
To me, the ONLY thing that could hold back a steady stream of new subs in the coming years, so far, is the TPV thing. It isn't necessary, but it is highly desired by many in the market. Perhaps something akin to Morrowind's approach, would be a great comprimise. I mention that only, as so far it had the best accomodation for both fpv'ers and tpv'ers in Oblivion. And since this is looking more and more like Oblivion: PvP/online Mod, why not?
Aside from that- KUDOS on pretty much every aspect!!! Make's me proud to be a fan for the last 2.5 yrs.
+1- Graphics. These guys know what they are doing. Great use of textures to provide the "hi rez" feel on "medium count" poly models. Love the HDRI lighting and hi rez procedural skydomes! Great use of motion capture for animations (Adventurine, Sigil, and Mythic- take note) And to top it off, the world seems as vast as that of Vanguard (arguably one of the few shining aspects everyone can agree on for V:SoH)
+1- Marketing. They seem to be following CDP's approach. That is- hold things close, don't over hype, don't make promises you can't keep, don't allude to mirages which will never be real, let the fans build your base. For a good game, news will spread slowly but steady and so will their sub numbers. Probably the best way to ensure a long life to me. The Hares might disagree (Mj, EE, TF.. this is you).
+/- Gameplay. Holding out until the leaks start coming. So far it has the makings of great gameplay, but only time, and exploits, will tell. However, if handled like everything else so far, it has room to be quite nice.
Waiting for- Tera, Jumpgate Evo, WH40K, WWE, WOD, TSW -- -- "Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Double Fine President Tim Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyonce is going to sue me too."
1 thing - graphics and animations are nice, perhaps melee is better, world building are much poorer than DF
That wasn't shown in the video...so, how would you even know, what are you basing that on?
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This game reminds me of another MORTAL game back in the day. Can anyone say MORTAL KOMBAT!!! with all the spleen pulling and all the blood splattering. Yes I did see the "Official" Beta vid on the home page. And I have to say that is what this game is reminding me of that being a bloodbath MMO.
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"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
This game reminds me of anouther MORTAL game back in the day. Can anyone say MORTAL KOMBAT!!! with all the splean pulling and all the blood splatering. Yes I did see the "Official" Beta vid on the home page. And I have to say that is what this game is remding me of that being a bloodbath MMO.
This game reminds me of anouther MORTAL game back in the day. Can anyone say MORTAL KOMBAT!!! with all the splean pulling and all the blood splatering. Yes I did see the "Official" Beta vid on the home page. And I have to say that is what this game is remding me of that being a bloodbath MMO.
1 thing - graphics and animations are nice, perhaps melee is better, world building are much poorer than DF
That wasn't shown in the video...so, how would you even know, what are you basing that on?
I think he was refering to how the world was built, and not about player cities. However, if he was refering to player cities then I would agree that part of the comment is from left field.
I watched the youtube vid and did not see anything that perked my interest. I'm going to watch the hi-res, and see if there is something better there.
FUCKING AMAZING, love the first person view with quality hand animations. I also dig dark, gory and mature art style reminiscent of aoc but even better. still looks like it needs some attention in some areas, 2010 release for sure imo.
LOOKS 99% LIKE MY DREAM MMO. shame I know from experience it won't live up to my hype.
isnt it looking a bit too DF for comfort? I bet if not done perfectly combat wise itl flop, the backside with action based combat (no buttom mashing) is that its easier to get bored of it due to the lack of variation.. guess theres a lot of ways to solve that, must say though I see some slight potential in this game
Actualy in my personal opinion the Darkfall beta hype video (the 17 minute one) was much better than MOs. It showed off alot more stuff and things to do ingame, more like a real MMORPG, MO didnt show much at all.
1 thing - graphics and animations are nice, perhaps melee is better, world building are much poorer than DF
Thats all we can see right now from this video
Can you please go do something else while you wait in your queue? Your "opinion" means nothing due to the DF suffix you have tagged onto your name. We don't need fanboi's downplaying other games, just because their's was a flop, here.
Lets not all get our hopes up...it looks promising..but the proof is in the pudding.
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I'm not sure I like being stuck in that one view only, if that's all they have to offer. While I agree it gives you an "immersive" feel much more than just looking at the back of your character as he runs, I can see that becoming tedious after awhile. I personally don't think I could play for six months exclusively in that view.
It was really pronouced when the video showed mounted combat. That doesn't look promising on my eyes, although it is beta and plenty can change. Alternate views would be a refreshing change than hours just looking out of it that one way. Even playing games like Halo, I can't stand that view all day.
Anyone aware if that's just combat view only or what?
I'm not sure I like being stuck in that one view only, if that's all they have to offer. While I agree it gives you an "immersive" feel much more than just looking at the back of your character as he runs, I can see that becoming tedious after awhile. I personally don't think I could play for six months exclusively in that view.
It was really pronouced when the video showed mounted combat. That doesn't look promising on my eyes, although it is beta and plenty can change. Alternate views would be a refreshing change than hours just looking out of it that one way. Even playing games like Halo, I can't stand that view all day.
Anyone aware if that's just combat view only or what?
No its first person view all the time. And it seems they wont allow any third person view option.
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I'd have to give to video, even though low quality, two thumbs up. I don't think you can make a call on how good the combat will be from that but it certainly looks like a good start.
It looked like the blocking wasn't blocking much and the range on weapons seemed quite large but that stuff can be fixed.
I was impressed by the speed, and variety of the combat, its more realistic, and looks more brutal (I do not mean blood and FX, i mean going toe to toe with your foe in a game a strategic swordplay FOR YOUR LIFE and honor) , and perhaps quicker to down someone, but much more oriented towards using the combat system instead of combating pools of hit points.
I guess what i am trying to say is less like typical MMO's, and more like bushido blade (that's an extreme, i know, but it does look like it leans more towards that) I noticed stances, direction slices, and active blocking and parrying.... Just my observations from that video.
If combat is that involved, i don't need huge numbers...that alone will be exciting. Instead of Quake like in an out trying to land a hit.
My first reaction was that combat was a bit slow paced. But after thinking about it, I agree with you. I would like to see a game that can make active blcking and parrying work. A game where out thinking your opponent means something. Not just having better twitch skills, but using your brain a bit.
I hope it works out in the end. But I will be skeptical untill the game is out. Every feature claimed by a MMO company is meaningless untill it is in the game and working. We see this with every game launched. I will hope for the best though.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
Actualy in my personal opinion the Darkfall beta hype video (the 17 minute one) was much better than MOs. It showed off alot more stuff and things to do ingame, more like a real MMORPG, MO didnt show much at all.
1 thing - graphics and animations are nice, perhaps melee is better, world building are much poorer than DF
Thats all we can see right now from this video
The fatal sword thrust through the kneeling man......very cool.
Video is up now on official website.
I don't agree that world building is poor compared to DF. The only thing I could agree is that DF showed a 17 minute video and MO showed an almost 5 minute one. I'm sure if they made a 17 minute one they would include many other facets of gameplay that were ready to be shown in a beta state.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
To me, the ONLY thing that could hold back a steady stream of new subs in the coming years, so far, is the TPV thing. It isn't necessary, but it is highly desired by many in the market. Perhaps something akin to Morrowind's approach, would be a great comprimise. I mention that only, as so far it had the best accomodation for both fpv'ers and tpv'ers in Oblivion. And since this is looking more and more like Oblivion: PvP/online Mod, why not?
Aside from that- KUDOS on pretty much every aspect!!! Make's me proud to be a fan for the last 2.5 yrs.
+1- Graphics. These guys know what they are doing. Great use of textures to provide the "hi rez" feel on "medium count" poly models. Love the HDRI lighting and hi rez procedural skydomes! Great use of motion capture for animations (Adventurine, Sigil, and Mythic- take note) And to top it off, the world seems as vast as that of Vanguard (arguably one of the few shining aspects everyone can agree on for V:SoH)
+1- Marketing. They seem to be following CDP's approach. That is- hold things close, don't over hype, don't make promises you can't keep, don't allude to mirages which will never be real, let the fans build your base. For a good game, news will spread slowly but steady and so will their sub numbers. Probably the best way to ensure a long life to me. The Hares might disagree (Mj, EE, TF.. this is you).
+/- Gameplay. Holding out until the leaks start coming. So far it has the makings of great gameplay, but only time, and exploits, will tell. However, if handled like everything else so far, it has room to be quite nice.
More to come
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Tried- L2, Ryzom, WAR, DDO, PWI, Tab Rasa, Requiem, Champs, AA, JD, PWI, SUN, Dawntide
Played- SWG (pre-cu), AoC, VG, WoW, LoTRO,CoX, EQ2, DAOC, GW, PotBS, Aion, MO,APB, NASA, Fallen Earth, DCUO, Rift
Playing- EVE, Black Prophecy, TOR
Waiting for- Tera, Jumpgate Evo, WH40K, WWE, WOD, TSW
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That wasn't shown in the video...so, how would you even know, what are you basing that on?
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This game reminds me of another MORTAL game back in the day. Can anyone say MORTAL KOMBAT!!! with all the spleen pulling and all the blood splattering. Yes I did see the "Official" Beta vid on the home page. And I have to say that is what this game is reminding me of that being a bloodbath MMO.
Here are some Mirrors :
Mirror1 : http://www.lifthrasir.nl/720Pmov.torrent (torrent)
Mirror2 : http://files.filefront.com/720Pmovmo.../fileinfo.html (Direct DL)
Mirror3 : http://www.gatefans.com/MO/720Pmov.mov (Direct DL)
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fixed :P
Thanks for the links MBW
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
fixed :P
Lol ty I fixed the booboo heehee
That wasn't shown in the video...so, how would you even know, what are you basing that on?
I think he was refering to how the world was built, and not about player cities. However, if he was refering to player cities then I would agree that part of the comment is from left field.
I watched the youtube vid and did not see anything that perked my interest. I'm going to watch the hi-res, and see if there is something better there.
FUCKING AMAZING, love the first person view with quality hand animations. I also dig dark, gory and mature art style reminiscent of aoc but even better. still looks like it needs some attention in some areas, 2010 release for sure imo.
LOOKS 99% LIKE MY DREAM MMO. shame I know from experience it won't live up to my hype.
My blog:
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"Somebody ... put something ...
Somebody put something in that horse's oats!"
Looking great
Can't wait to see some of the more exotic zones.
My brand new bloggity blog.
isnt it looking a bit too DF for comfort? I bet if not done perfectly combat wise itl flop, the backside with action based combat (no buttom mashing) is that its easier to get bored of it due to the lack of variation.. guess theres a lot of ways to solve that, must say though I see some slight potential in this game
I think the game looks really nice but whats with this fps mode in non mmofps games. They need to make the fps mode optional.
Can you please go do something else while you wait in your queue? Your "opinion" means nothing due to the DF suffix you have tagged onto your name. We don't need fanboi's downplaying other games, just because their's was a flop, here.
Looks awesome! Im really looking forward to this game now, seems like the devs know what they are doing!
Seem like they are making a World and not just a big level for people to gank and loot eachother in
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Lets not all get our hopes up...it looks promising..but the proof is in the pudding.
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How are you?" -Me
Err.. gore is not mature, gore attracts teenagers.
I know it's a mature rating, which also attracts teenagers.
I'm not sure I like being stuck in that one view only, if that's all they have to offer. While I agree it gives you an "immersive" feel much more than just looking at the back of your character as he runs, I can see that becoming tedious after awhile. I personally don't think I could play for six months exclusively in that view.
It was really pronouced when the video showed mounted combat. That doesn't look promising on my eyes, although it is beta and plenty can change. Alternate views would be a refreshing change than hours just looking out of it that one way. Even playing games like Halo, I can't stand that view all day.
Anyone aware if that's just combat view only or what?
"TO MICHAEL!"
No its first person view all the time. And it seems they wont allow any third person view option.
They are definitely set against having 3rd person view for anything, even resting on the ground (for instance).
Your view is what you see with your own eyes, not some magical floating camera..
The video is still on the main site, embedded in the main page and video pages