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What makes Aion so good?

shade273shade273 Member UncommonPosts: 47

Here's something that irks me about Aion-probably more than the Stimulas bill that Congress passed-Why in the hell did NCSoft make (yet another) fantasy mmorpg?  Don't we already have 70+ that act the exact same anyways?

 

NCSoft is already on my bad side because of how they handled Tabula Rasa, so much so that I have begun to boycott Guild Wars and I refuse to communicate with the company at all.  My only reconsideration for this is when Guild Wars 2 is on the shelves, and that is a stretch at this rate.  I'm tired of all the generic brand, crappy, half ass, fantasy games that get put on the shelves!  NCSoft already has the Lineage Series and Guild Wars under their belt, so why in the 7 dimensions of hell (or however many there are) do they have to put out a whole new fantasy MMORPG?  What makes this damn game so much better than things like WoW, AoC, GW, and all the other billion fantasy mmo's?  And HOW is it so much better than games like Tabula Rasa, SWG, Stargate Worlds, and Star Trek Online?

 

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  • simsimhadasimsimhada Member Posts: 71

    don't think difficult to MMORPG

    just play and level up infinity and talk another one.

    that's it

     

    i think Aion purely perform this purpose

     

    you hate about that? maybe right, you'd better that play console game

    because console game has good (artificial)system,more cool gfx,game-design

     

    p.s sure, i agree that Aion game-design,system is DAMN especially compared WoW (Aion is almost WoW clone??!!)

    but users decidsion not absolutely based on game-system,gfx (include hardcore gamer)

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Originally posted by shade273


    Here's something that irks me about Aion-probably more than the Stimulas bill that Congress passed-Why in the hell did NCSoft make (yet another) fantasy mmorpg?  Don't we already have 70+ that act the exact same anyways?
     
    NCSoft is already on my bad side because of how they handled Tabula Rasa, so much so that I have begun to boycott Guild Wars and I refuse to communicate with the company at all.  My only reconsideration for this is when Guild Wars 2 is on the shelves, and that is a stretch at this rate.  I'm tired of all the generic brand, crappy, half ass, fantasy games that get put on the shelves!  NCSoft already has the Lineage Series and Guild Wars under their belt, so why in the 7 dimensions of hell (or however many there are) do they have to put out a whole new fantasy MMORPG?  What makes this damn game so much better than things like WoW, AoC, GW, and all the other billion fantasy mmo's?  And HOW is it so much better than games like Tabula Rasa, SWG, Stargate Worlds, and Star Trek Online?
     

    I don't believe they stated that Aion is better or the next WOW killer. They just took all the best features of all the other mmo's and added them into aion.  What you think is a great game may not be for me and vice versa, A great game is in the eye of the beholder "different play styles for different people".

    As far as putting out another fantasy game when they already have a few under there belt, L2 and GW are getting a little long in the tooth and its time for a new series to be rolled out i guess. Perhaps in two / three years you will see the new L3 or GW2 but in the mean time Aion will fill the gap.

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  • stormiousstormious Member Posts: 63

    Lore-wise it is not a typical fantasy at all, and is actually a huge breath of fresh air compared to other fantasygames. I realize most gamers on this site don't care at all about lore and roleplaying, but for me that is a big thing that sets Aion aside as unique.

    The gameplay is very similar to other titles and it's basically a collection of already tried and mainstream features with subtle twists to them. I think it's a smart move, and I personally don't crave complete originality in every feature, and most probably agree with me.

    I agree with you completely though, why another fantasy? Fantasy mmorpgs are becoming a bit generic in terms of races, classes, game-worlds, story and so on. I can't wait until a decent sci-fi mmorpg with an new exciting universe is released. Maybe Star Wars, although I have never previously played a good game that was based on a movie, so my hopes for that particular title are not very high.

    A game that could successfully combine both a high fantasy setting and a sci-fi universe would be the bomb for me. Like a mix of Aion and EVE :D Now, that would be something..

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,983

    In addition to what others said, my guess is that they know their audience.

    For example, I'm still waiting for a fantasy game that has more of what I want. L2 had "some", GW had "some", Aion seems to have a better balance of the things I'm looking for.

    To add to that, I'm not interested at all in playing a sci fi game. So I would be their perfect target audience.

     

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  • Angie-PvPAngie-PvP Member Posts: 87

    Aion wil be infested with gold farming rings the same as L2. I remember from L2 these gold farming ring pigs infested the game making it very unplayable. The gold farming rings would grief people away from questing areas, so they could make more gold for real life sales. Gold farming rings also botted in many areas. As soon as a mob would spawn you would have a pile of botters on the one mob all at once. The gold farming rings were VERY racist and would say many things to english speaking players. Many people got a good lesson in what they were saying after playing L2. I also remember the spam for power leveling and gold sales in towns.

     

    I wish that there was a way for them to not have gold farming rings. This is one reason I will not play Aion or any other gold farming ring infested game.

  • shade273shade273 Member UncommonPosts: 47

    #1-I don't need another fantasy mmorpg to run into vampire werewolves form the 7th dimension of hell that are all powerful.

    #2-I hate gold/plvling spammers as much as the next guy, but they seem to have found an easy life in L2 from the sound of it (glad I never played the game)

    #3-I realize that it can be a matter of opinion on "what a good game is" but with all the fantasy games out there it kinda says "If you don't have elves, humans, orcs, and mystery race, your not wow-therefore not worth my time".  I'm just getting really tired of the wow clones.

     

    I'm wondering if there is a reason I should lift my boycott of NCSoft, and from the sounds of all the people I've talked to, they concur that 'It's just another...'

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by shade273


    I'm wondering if there is a reason I should lift my boycott of NCSoft, and from the sounds of all the people I've talked to, they concur that 'It's just another...'

    Yep, no reason to lift it at all.  After all, I am sure they aren't missing your money.  As far as all this talk of WoW clones, Everquest is a WoW clone hell even Dungeons and Dragons is a WoW clone this day in age.

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  • kithekithe Member UncommonPosts: 111

     I don't have any hard solid made up facts or figures but I think Aion looks fun. Few newer games look fun. I like Aions graphics direction and what I read about stigma system and flying systems. It might turn out to be pure garbage but still it will most likely be garbage that atleast looks fun. ^^

  • stormiousstormious Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by shade273


    #1-I don't need another fantasy mmorpg to run into vampire werewolves form the 7th dimension of hell that are all powerful.
    #2-I hate gold/plvling spammers as much as the next guy, but they seem to have found an easy life in L2 from the sound of it (glad I never played the game)
    #3-I realize that it can be a matter of opinion on "what a good game is" but with all the fantasy games out there it kinda says "If you don't have elves, humans, orcs, and mystery race, your not wow-therefore not worth my time".  I'm just getting really tired of the wow clones.
     
    I'm wondering if there is a reason I should lift my boycott of NCSoft, and from the sounds of all the people I've talked to, they concur that 'It's just another...'

     

    I personally think "Aion is just a new game" too, with the addition of "hopefully a GOOD new game".

    #1 Don't really know what you mean by that.

    #2 Yeap, goldsellers are a problem. Atleast NCsoft is doing something about botters and stuff in Aion.

    http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/11847-extreme-banhammer-strikes-again-04-03-2009-a.html

    70k botter accounts perma-banned xD

    Also, goldselling is pretty hard to beat in any game if a third of mmo-players are willing to use the service...

    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/03/30-percent-of-online-gamers-reportedly-buy-gold.ars

    3# Then rejoice, no elves, orcs or midgets playable in this game. Plenty of other weird stuff though, but not playable :)


    Boycotting things is never good for any reason. Either try it at release or wait for a trial and try it then...

  • DuClaireDuClaire Member Posts: 82
    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by shade273


    I'm wondering if there is a reason I should lift my boycott of NCSoft, and from the sounds of all the people I've talked to, they concur that 'It's just another...'

    Yep, no reason to lift it at all.  After all, I am sure they aren't missing your money.  As far as all this talk of WoW clones, Everquest is a WoW clone hell even Dungeons and Dragons is a WoW clone this day in age.



     Actually, EQ1 was around way before WoW, and EQ2 was released the same time as WoW.. and neither are anything like WoW.

    As to refer back to the OP, I havn't had a chance to play this game. Why does it appeal to me? I'm a big big Final Fantasy fan, and the Final Fantasy mmo is not only old but was missing something for me. Aion reminds me of Final Fantasy.

    I like the look of the game, the large swords, character designs and the flight system seems nice. That's why i'm wanting to try it out.

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by DuClaire

    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by shade273


    I'm wondering if there is a reason I should lift my boycott of NCSoft, and from the sounds of all the people I've talked to, they concur that 'It's just another...'

    Yep, no reason to lift it at all.  After all, I am sure they aren't missing your money.  As far as all this talk of WoW clones, Everquest is a WoW clone hell even Dungeons and Dragons is a WoW clone this day in age.



     Actually, EQ1 was around way before WoW, and EQ2 was released the same time as WoW.. and neither are anything like WoW.

    As to refer back to the OP, I havn't had a chance to play this game. Why does it appeal to me? I'm a big big Final Fantasy fan, and the Final Fantasy mmo is not only old but was missing something for me. Aion reminds me of Final Fantasy.

    I like the look of the game, the large swords, character designs and the flight system seems nice. That's why i'm wanting to try it out.

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  • MNZebaMNZeba Member Posts: 254

    What makes Aion so good?

    I played  a little of the Korean Open beta. Aion's story is really really good. Between the music and the environment it truely makes you immurse in the amazing fantasy atmosphere. I felt like I was in a young fantasy novel. Not like WoW, where I felt like I was in a disney 3D movie.

  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414

    I think your anger OP is misdirected it's pretty clear you are angry at the company I'd recommend to just walk away for a few months completely. It's not an issue with how dare they make another fantasy game but how dare they shut down my beloved Sc-Fi and launch a style of game I'm tired of. While I hear you and think it's a serious shame what they did to TR it doesn't have anything to do with Aion as a game.

    First of all I don't believe there's a huge difference between fantasy and science fiction I'll even go to say that they are the same. I don't know about you but in my most libraries I've been in Fantasy and Sci-Fi are always in the same section... Sci-Fi is just magic explained and that you can use with gadgets, mutations, alien powers ect.. While fantasy is magic that's explained by Gods or alchemy and so on. Also there's never been a better time then now to get interested in MMOs because many companies are not focused on high fantasy anymore. Like said already Aion is not your typical high fantasy setting, it's not a rehash of Tolkien or D&D though that may not interest you the fact remains it is different. Like AoC is very different, I think it's the first and only sword and sorcery title right now, we need more imo.

    Space and post apocalypse are what is coming up next on the market, don't just be looking at NCsoft look elsewhere. Earthrise, Global Agenda, Fallen Earth, TOR, Star Trek though I think that one will blow but that's just me.. :) Lots of good stuff on the way with no elf in sight, it still think it stinks to high heaven that TR shut down and NCsoft will suffer looking like a jerk for a very long time no doubt (they make SOE look better, that's pretty bad..), but you can't focus on what they are doing next and get angry at that game.

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    edit: Bleh I didn't answer your question though: Why is Aion so much better then X games? It's not. It really isn't, it just has some features that those who have been waiting for it have been looking for and can't find in all those other games. A lot of the new slew of games look just as awesome, Fallen Earth and TOR are pretty high on my list right now and I am not going to say I'll pick one or the other it's likely I'll get all of them and play them when I feel like or maybe one will stick more then the others. But really it's a matter of what you prefer and it's possible many of these upcoming titles won't have that magic that makes people stick to one game rather then another. But the truth is technically they are all the same, it just depends if their setting appeals to you and if they are well executed. Aion will be very well executed as far as I can tell.

     

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  • NixishNixish Member UncommonPosts: 185
    Originally posted by Sovrath


    In addition to what others said, my guess is that they know their audience.
    For example, I'm still waiting for a fantasy game that has more of what I want. L2 had "some", GW had "some", Aion seems to have a better balance of the things I'm looking for.
    To add to that, I'm not interested at all in playing a sci fi game. So I would be their perfect target audience.
     
    So let me guess, Republican or Libertarian?



     

    I usually enjoy your posts, but it wouldve been best for you to ignore his stimulus comment out of the chance of insulting other readers.

    Not to derail the thread of course.. carry on.

  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by Nixish

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    In addition to what others said, my guess is that they know their audience.
    For example, I'm still waiting for a fantasy game that has more of what I want. L2 had "some", GW had "some", Aion seems to have a better balance of the things I'm looking for.
    To add to that, I'm not interested at all in playing a sci fi game. So I would be their perfect target audience.
     
    So let me guess, Republican or Libertarian?



     

    I usually enjoy your posts, but it wouldve been best for you to ignore his stimulus comment out of the chance of insulting other readers.

    Not to derail the thread of course.. carry on.

     

    The OP brought up the issue in his first sentence.

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  • KainisKainis Member Posts: 436

    Considering the rest of the OP's rant is just them being obnoxious at best, my question is the following: Why is it that the OP, and others, think that just because a title is in a "fantasy" setting, does it automatically have the classic Tolkien-ite races? Newsflash: it doesnt take Dwarven Orc Blots and Associated Companies of Gnomish Elves, Inc. to make a "fantasy" setting. It requires 2 things only. Swords and Sorcery (nod to those that remember THAT classic).

    And furthermore, just because it just so happens to BE a "fantasy" setting, does not make it a WoW clone. If anything, WoW will clone it, in the next expansion pack, as they had attempted with other games, in features from the last 2. No, Aion is rising and will eventually fall (years down the road by the looks of it), on its own merits. Completely unlike your attempts at flaming the game, and the company, which were fails from the start.

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  • curiindicuriindi Member Posts: 488

    /sigh

    Although I have my own complaints about NCsoft, I think OP isn't trying to understand its position. I can be totally wrong, but I'll begin by saying that NC's success started in Korea with the Lineage franchise.

    Lineage was a (1) subscription-based, (2) fantasy-themed, (3) hard-core-grind MMO(4)RPG. For (1), NC experimented with B2P in Guild Wars and F2P in Dungeon Runners. For (2), NC covered themes like super-heroes in City of Heroes/Villains, robot-mechs in Exteel, and space sci-fi in Tabula Rasa. For (3), Aion is NC's latest attempt, following several titles previously mentioned, to cover a more mainstream audience. NC has done quite a bit to offer diversity among its games.

    However, one of my complaints is that NC hasn't done much about (4) outside of Korea. In Korea, NC offers online dance/rhythm in Love Beat, fighting in Atrix, FPS in Point Blank, and a casual game portal. Being profitable in North America may be a problem, but I think a portion of the resources allocated to Tabula Rasa could have been used to expand NC's foreign MMO titles outside of RPG genre. Ignoring spoiled milk and moving on to fulfill (1-4) internationally can help increase NC's MMO market share.

    Among the characteristics that a MMO can have, I still think that choice of theme is the least important. Game play is definitely most crucial for me - I love swords, shields, and robes, but I'll play a good sci-fi MMORPG over a bad fantasy MMORPG anyday. On the other hand, I will unsubscribe if I feel that I won't be spending too much time in a MMO, and I will take a break from MMORPGs if I feel like mowing others down with machine guns in the near future.

  • Meta1987Meta1987 Member Posts: 5

    Hello everyone

    My opinion it’s very simple Aion will be great because it is not vanilla wow and it is not like L2 grind fest.

    I have been playing wow since it came out and what I have to say its like wow was very good.

    But blizzard mage game easier and easier its very casual game the only thing that makes special is the achievements that makes anyone different in game. (I have played on some of top guilds on wow)

    Now about L2 did not play a lot of it but it was good at least makes you play if you want to get something (not as casual as wow is now)

    So I see Aion as middle of these 2 games not to casual and not to grind based and I am looking for that on game so far that what makes Aion so great for me.

    sorry for my English

     

     

     

  • Angie-PvPAngie-PvP Member Posts: 87
    Originally posted by Meta1987


    Hello everyone

    My opinion it’s very simple Aion will be great because it is not vanilla wow and it is not like L2 grind fest.

    I have been playing wow since it came out and what I have to say its like wow was very good.

    But blizzard mage game easier and easier its very casual game the only thing that makes special is the achievements that makes anyone different in game. (I have played on some of top guilds on wow)

    Now about L2 did not play a lot of it but it was good at least makes you play if you want to get something (not as casual as wow is now)

    So I see Aion as middle of these 2 games not to casual and not to grind based and I am looking for that on game so far that what makes Aion so great for me.
    sorry for my English
     
     
     

     

    I have been reading on another mmo website about what people are saying about Aion that are playing the retail game. They say that the game is a grind and is infested with bots. It is going to suck seeing another nice mmo infested with these gold farming ring pigs who dominate the game. No matter what the developers do, they are very much helpless against such pig infestation.

     

    In a way, it is the developers fualt that they get infested. They make mmo's that are such a grind that without dumping massive hours in game time each week, you basically get nowhere, you are stuck behind a brick wall. Gold farming rings LOVE the grind, it means more sales for them.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,983
    YyOriginally posted by Nixish

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    In addition to what others said, my guess is that they know their audience.
    For example, I'm still waiting for a fantasy game that has more of what I want. L2 had "some", GW had "some", Aion seems to have a better balance of the things I'm looking for.
    To add to that, I'm not interested at all in playing a sci fi game. So I would be their perfect target audience.
     
    So let me guess, Republican or Libertarian?



     

    I usually enjoy your posts, but it wouldve been best for you to ignore his stimulus comment out of the chance of insulting other readers.

    Not to derail the thread of course.. carry on.

     

    Sorry, didn't mean to insult Republicans or Libertarians (why, my roommate, one of the finest people I know is a Libertarian AND he doesn't eat children - joke... joking ;) ) I was just amused at his anti democratic stance and was wondering where he was coming from politically as I've seen more republicans and libertarians having issues with our current political place.

     

    Also, to the gentleman who is saying that Aion is a grind and is infested with bots:

    I haven't really seen anyplace where people are saying it's a grind. I do know that "grind" is subjective. Heck, there are people who feel that Lord of the Rings Online is a grind or has aspects of heavy grind. Coming from Lineage 2 I marvel at this as I feel it's one of the least grindy games around. But then again, as I said, subjective.

    I do know they have a bot problem and there have been aggressive steps taken against them.

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  • chopstix906chopstix906 Member Posts: 60


    Originally posted by shade273
    Here's something that irks me about Aion-probably more than the Stimulas bill that Congress passed-Why in the hell did NCSoft make (yet another) fantasy mmorpg?  Don't we already have 70+ that act the exact same anyways?
     
    NCSoft is already on my bad side because of how they handled Tabula Rasa, so much so that I have begun to boycott Guild Wars and I refuse to communicate with the company at all.  My only reconsideration for this is when Guild Wars 2 is on the shelves, and that is a stretch at this rate.  I'm tired of all the generic brand, crappy, half ass, fantasy games that get put on the shelves!  NCSoft already has the Lineage Series and Guild Wars under their belt, so why in the 7 dimensions of hell (or however many there are) do they have to put out a whole new fantasy MMORPG?  What makes this damn game so much better than things like WoW, AoC, GW, and all the other billion fantasy mmo's?  And HOW is it so much better than games like Tabula Rasa, SWG, Stargate Worlds, and Star Trek Online?
     

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  • MaligarMaligar Member Posts: 81
    Originally posted by stormious


    Lore-wise it is not a typical fantasy at all, and is actually a huge breath of fresh air compared to other fantasygames. I realize most gamers on this site don't care at all about lore and roleplaying, but for me that is a big thing that sets Aion aside as unique.
    The gameplay is very similar to other titles and it's basically a collection of already tried and mainstream features with subtle twists to them. I think it's a smart move, and I personally don't crave complete originality in every feature, and most probably agree with me.
    I agree with you completely though, why another fantasy? Fantasy mmorpgs are becoming a bit generic in terms of races, classes, game-worlds, story and so on. I can't wait until a decent sci-fi mmorpg with an new exciting universe is released. Maybe Star Wars, although I have never previously played a good game that was based on a movie, so my hopes for that particular title are not very high.
    A game that could successfully combine both a high fantasy setting and a sci-fi universe would be the bomb for me. Like a mix of Aion and EVE :D Now, that would be something..



     

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  • shade273shade273 Member UncommonPosts: 47
    Originally posted by chopstix906


     

    Originally posted by shade273

    Here's something that irks me about Aion-probably more than the Stimulas bill that Congress passed-Why in the hell did NCSoft make (yet another) fantasy mmorpg?  Don't we already have 70+ that act the exact same anyways?

     

    NCSoft is already on my bad side because of how they handled Tabula Rasa, so much so that I have begun to boycott Guild Wars and I refuse to communicate with the company at all.  My only reconsideration for this is when Guild Wars 2 is on the shelves, and that is a stretch at this rate.  I'm tired of all the generic brand, crappy, half ass, fantasy games that get put on the shelves!  NCSoft already has the Lineage Series and Guild Wars under their belt, so why in the 7 dimensions of hell (or however many there are) do they have to put out a whole new fantasy MMORPG?  What makes this damn game so much better than things like WoW, AoC, GW, and all the other billion fantasy mmo's?  And HOW is it so much better than games like Tabula Rasa, SWG, Stargate Worlds, and Star Trek Online?

     

     

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  • DevilXaphanDevilXaphan Member UncommonPosts: 1,144

    For the most part Koreans like fantasy mmo's, it's the major thing for them. Not many companies from the east make other genres for the mmo market, they just usually stick to what is most popular over there.

    What makes Aion so good is not so much the fantasy aspect of it but the mix of flight, story quests, basic classes that are more balanced than most mmo's that start off and the fun ability to make your character anyway you like it to be.

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  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by shade273

    Originally posted by chopstix906


     

    Originally posted by shade273

    Here's something that irks me about Aion-probably more than the Stimulas bill that Congress passed-Why in the hell did NCSoft make (yet another) fantasy mmorpg?  Don't we already have 70+ that act the exact same anyways?

     

    NCSoft is already on my bad side because of how they handled Tabula Rasa, so much so that I have begun to boycott Guild Wars and I refuse to communicate with the company at all.  My only reconsideration for this is when Guild Wars 2 is on the shelves, and that is a stretch at this rate.  I'm tired of all the generic brand, crappy, half ass, fantasy games that get put on the shelves!  NCSoft already has the Lineage Series and Guild Wars under their belt, so why in the 7 dimensions of hell (or however many there are) do they have to put out a whole new fantasy MMORPG?  What makes this damn game so much better than things like WoW, AoC, GW, and all the other billion fantasy mmo's?  And HOW is it so much better than games like Tabula Rasa, SWG, Stargate Worlds, and Star Trek Online?

     

     

    Dude...you can fly. End of story

    Boo who....I can fly in SWG, that doesn't make the game good.  Albeit, it's a fun feature, but flying does not make a good game.

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    Not like in Aion you can't. It's not because you can fly in City of X, Galaxies or Perfect World that it's the same experience, from the descriptions I've read it won't be at all.

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