Our unelected Prime Minister is going to stand before an unelected parliament in some foreign country again, and since he isn't in his own parliament someone from his own country is going to be allowed to mention to him what a dick he is?
What difference does it make?
Nothing has changed and if he doesn't like being spoken to like that, he doesn't have to go there again.
Really nice speech, fun!
This isn't France. This isn't America. The government does what it likes.
What's going to happen in summer then? Our unelected Prime Minister is going to stand before an unelected parliament in some foreign country again, and since he isn't in his own parliament someone from his own country is going to be allowed to mention to him what a dick he is? What difference does it make? Nothing has changed and if he doesn't like being spoken to like that, he doesn't have to go there again. Really nice speech, fun!
This isn't France. This isn't America. The government does what it likes.
Life and death is carried within the tongue.
I find hard to believe that your in the minority over their ! could be wrong tho.Could you confirm something for me.Are they using infer-red at night to see who is wasting heat over there.Just heard a rumor! was wondering if it was true or not.
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Police helicopters have them all equiped, but also they pay for private surveys. There are companies that just fly over the country scanning with IR. The government then looks at all the houses and sends a either an insulation salesman round or the drug squad depending on who is registered at that address.
They have detector van's too that drive around towns.
Yes mate. Police helicopters have them all equiped, but also they pay for private surveys. There are companies that just fly over the country scanning with IR. The government then looks at all the houses and sends a either an insulation salesman round or the drug squad depending on who is registered at that address. They have detector van's too that drive around towns.
Wow.if thats not off the chain i dont what is...WOW.hang in their ,I beleive without a thought that the ball is rolling.
Best of luck to you and yours.
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Just the interest on the U.S. government's burgeoning $9 trillion debt will soon be more than the taxpayers can afford to pay. When that happens, the economy will collapse unless the monetary system is radically overhauled. Articles are appearing daily in the news that bring the looming economic crisis into sharper focus and strengthen the case for monetary reform. Foreign central banks are increasingly abandoning the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency, while the impending implosion of the housing bubble threatens to bring down the whole money system, national and international. As the riskier mortgages go into foreclosure, the institutional investors owning them as mortgage-backed securities will be left holding the bag; and these institutional investors are largely the pension funds on which the retirements of workers depend. To keep up appearances, the "Plunge Protection Team" has been authorized by presidential order to use U.S. taxpayer money to manipulate markets to make them appear healthier than they are, and lately it has been working overtime. But official assurances of a "soft landing" are mere window dressing, aimed at preventing another worldwide depression as home buyers and stock market investors stampede for the exits.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Talking doesn't change sod all. If all you do in life is talk, be prepared to get ignored any time someone doesn't want to hear what you have to say.
Much like that guy in Youtube has been ignored his entire political life.
As that monetary collapse gets closer the government can and will take more and more emergency powers to see it off.
What it won't do is sack everyone in government to save money, it will just take over stuff. Appoint new regulators to oversee it all. Tax stuff. provide state sector jobs to unemployment black spots.
Until like Belgium you reach a tipping point where over half the people work for the government, when in an electoral system, half the population can always vote itself more. And that's it right there. Communism. A one party system.
These people think that they can fix the economy. They think it's up to them and they are the best ones for the job. The worse it gets the more power they take. The more power they take, the more they have to interefere to justify having taken that power, the more they interefere the more they screw it up, the more screwed up it gets the more power they need to take to fix it.....
On and on.
They will nationalise it rather than stop spending other peoples money on bribing their electorate.
Tongues? Talking doesn't change sod all. If all you do in life is talk, be prepared to get ignored any time someone doesn't want to hear what you have to say.
Much like that guy in Youtube has been ignored his entire political life.
Which one of the millions of political speakers on youtube are you talking about Baff?
He is bang in tune with British public opinion. Wants out of the EU, wants the government to stop enlarging. Wants the Prime Minister to resign.
But it will never happen because the other politiicans, they don't want that. They want jobs in the EU themselves and they want to use other peoples money to save the world and they want to bribe their electorates and run big important offices with lots of staff and better wages.
He can talk as much as he likes. Nothing he says will ever come to pass.
Tongues? Talking doesn't change sod all. If all you do in life is talk, be prepared to get ignored any time someone doesn't want to hear what you have to say.
Much like that guy in Youtube has been ignored his entire political life.
Believe me !!! i do hear it in your voice,,,Reason i say summer is just because the Summer heat has a way of bring out the worst in people.We will have to see,that was a nice speech was it not, sent to me from a friend in UK.He seem to be abit more optimistic than you i must say..ha ha
Our bonds this last 3 days are not selling as well as hoped too,their pumping to much cash into the system to fast.Pension are going to be in real trouble soon,next shoe to drop it would appear.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Tongues? Talking doesn't change sod all. If all you do in life is talk, be prepared to get ignored any time someone doesn't want to hear what you have to say.
Much like that guy in Youtube has been ignored his entire political life.
Believe me !!! i do hear it in your voice,,,Reason i say summer is just because the Summer heat has a way of bring out the worst in people.We will have to see,that was a nice speech was it not, sent to me from a friend in UK.He seem to be abit more optimistic than you i must say..ha ha
Our bonds this last 3 days are not selling as well as hoped too,their pumping to much cash into the system to fast.Pension are going to be in real trouble soon,next shoe to drop it would appear.
What a very well thought out argument.
"I can hear it in your voice"
Actually you can't even hear his voice.
Summer heat has a way to bring out the worst in people?
My pension is 1/5 of what it was. Phooey! Got to laugh.
And yes great speech. Top entertainment.
Remember asking the magic 8 ball a question,,the one with the little eye glass on it, always had the answer.you made me think of that.Well i do see the folly of it,we have much the same here. "Rolls eyes"
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Boy, you dont the HECK know whatcha talking about. I grew up in a socialist country. You have NO IDEA what socialism means. The truth we realized now is, that it isnt capitalism that is theatened, it is capitalism that's the threat!
You have been fed with so much misinformation, it sickens me. As if there was only dark age communism or total free market and no in between. I thought we stopped thinking in such extremes some time ago? Fact is that total free market is just as bad as total control of the government; there must be some form of balance, and after some sorts of speculative money making put the traditional capitalism at risk, it is a logical thing to make some controls. Freedoms ends where actions endanger the entire system itself! After all, a democratic goverment is for the common good, not the particular good of 2% stock brokers and high risk traders.
So readjustments are the logical consequence of the system failure. I dont see why there is such a fuzz over simple, logical reactions and necessities.
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unfortunetly the major EU countries aren't backing the czech president.
from the article:
"Shocked by the outburst, other European politicians went into damage control mode, with some reproaching the Czech leader for his language and others reaffirming their good diplomatic ties with the United States. The leaders of EU's major nations — France, Britain and Germany, among others — largely ignored Topolanek and his remarks."
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Boy, you dont the HECK know whatcha talking about. I grew up in a socialist country. You have NO IDEA what socialism means. The truth we realized now is, that it isnt capitalism that is theatened, it is capitalism that's the threat! You have been fed with so much misinformation, it sickens me. As if there was only dark age communism or total free market and no in between. I thought we stopped thinking in such extremes some time ago? Fact is that total free market is just as bad as total control of the government; there must be some form of balance, and after some sorts of speculative money making put the traditional capitalism at risk, it is a logical thing to make some controls. Freedoms ends where actions endanger the entire system itself! After all, a democratic goverment is for the common good, not the particular good of 2% stock brokers and high risk traders. So readjustments are the logical consequence of the system failure. I dont see why there is such a fuzz over simple, logical reactions and necessities.
Let's revisit a video of Milton Friedman posted by Frodus a few days ago on another thread. Mr. Friedman, the 1976 Nobel Prize winner in Economics, knows a thing or two about market systems. I don't know as much as Uncle Milt, but I do know that free markets create wealth and goverment consumes it.
unfortunetly the major EU countries aren't backing the czech president. from the article: "Shocked by the outburst, other European politicians went into damage control mode, with some reproaching the Czech leader for his language and others reaffirming their good diplomatic ties with the United States. The leaders of EU's major nations — France, Britain and Germany, among others — largely ignored Topolanek and his remarks."
By unfortunately, you mean fortunately I take it. I'm sure most of these politicians are socialists themselves and are, therefore, in favor of America's big ticket spending. That doesn't make them right.
Originally posted by frodusI find hard to believe that your in the minority over their ! could be wrong tho.Could you confirm something for me.Are they using infer-red at night to see who is wasting heat over there.Just heard a rumor! was wondering if it was true or not.
They use infrared to look for people growing Marijuana with hydroponics.
"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush, discussing the decline of the French economy with British Prime Minister Tony Blair
Its where all the countries go into this government called United Humans.
I could go into long detail about what it is...but hopefully the name says a 1000 words, so to speak
Interesting idea..... so when representives from Russia and Zimbawa team up and seize a small control and begin to regulate reforms for there regions that directly and negitivly effect your region you'll still be cool with this?
Boy, you dont the HECK know whatcha talking about. I grew up in a socialist country. You have NO IDEA what socialism means. The truth we realized now is, that it isnt capitalism that is theatened, it is capitalism that's the threat! You have been fed with so much misinformation, it sickens me. As if there was only dark age communism or total free market and no in between. I thought we stopped thinking in such extremes some time ago? Fact is that total free market is just as bad as total control of the government; there must be some form of balance, and after some sorts of speculative money making put the traditional capitalism at risk, it is a logical thing to make some controls. Freedoms ends where actions endanger the entire system itself! After all, a democratic goverment is for the common good, not the particular good of 2% stock brokers and high risk traders. So readjustments are the logical consequence of the system failure. I dont see why there is such a fuzz over simple, logical reactions and necessities.
Most Americans agree that socialism is an awesome idea.
We just are a little wary of giving complete control of government, money AND the worlds strongest military all to the same people. (our generation or 6 generations ahead of us)
Keep them seperate and hope for the best.
** I mean it just smells like a bad recipe. Somthing you dont want in the oven.
***The last serious liberal president we had forced the American people against their will to go to some boondock Asian country for crying out load. All in the name of their version of democracy, why only the unbathed and drug induced "Peace, love and chicken grease" crowd seen this as a MAJOR problem just escapes me.
Boy, you dont the HECK know whatcha talking about. I grew up in a socialist country. You have NO IDEA what socialism means. The truth we realized now is, that it isnt capitalism that is theatened, it is capitalism that's the threat! You have been fed with so much misinformation, it sickens me. As if there was only dark age communism or total free market and no in between. I thought we stopped thinking in such extremes some time ago? Fact is that total free market is just as bad as total control of the government; there must be some form of balance, and after some sorts of speculative money making put the traditional capitalism at risk, it is a logical thing to make some controls. Freedoms ends where actions endanger the entire system itself! After all, a democratic goverment is for the common good, not the particular good of 2% stock brokers and high risk traders. So readjustments are the logical consequence of the system failure. I dont see why there is such a fuzz over simple, logical reactions and necessities.
Because they keep suggesting the same self serving re-adjustments that just made it so much worse last tim, and the time before that and we as a people cannot afford it to get any worse anymore. It has become a crisis.
What put capitalism at risk is government over regulation. Enforced lending to high risk borrowers. The promotion of borrowing and debt led consumer booms to get the nation out of successive downturns, until there was nothing left to lend and the downtown could be delayed no more.
The government in my country replaced an existing succesful regulator with a new body of state regultors, who guess what?
Didn't have clue about regulating because they were all political appointee's not ex banking staff and "high risk traders and stock brokers"and they were under the direction of the headline seeking state not the money seeking Bank of England. The last thing we need is more governmental regulation. Give me back the high risk traders and stock brokers please, BCCI and Bearings Bank pales in comparison to the level and quantitiy of financial disasters we have now.
A democratic government is not for the common good, it is primarily for the good of the government. It is a self serving instrument.
The first responsability of any democratic party is to get into power.
unfortunetly the major EU countries aren't backing the czech president. from the article: "Shocked by the outburst, other European politicians went into damage control mode, with some reproaching the Czech leader for his language and others reaffirming their good diplomatic ties with the United States. The leaders of EU's major nations — France, Britain and Germany, among others — largely ignored Topolanek and his remarks."
By unfortunately, you mean fortunately I take it. I'm sure most of these politicians are socialists themselves and are, therefore, in favor of America's big ticket spending. That doesn't make them right.
All right wingers are largely ignored in Europe. The far right is quite often outlawed completely.
France, Britain and Germany are all large enough to ignore everyone all the time and do.
The EU is set up to be a direct counter to the U.S.
Close alliance with the U.S. by it's members is almost seen as treachery. The cowds all boo and hiss at any such suggestion that U.S. co-operation/integration is more important to you than theirs.
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Give it time mate,summer is soon to be here..things will heat up,I promise.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
What's going to happen in summer then?
Our unelected Prime Minister is going to stand before an unelected parliament in some foreign country again, and since he isn't in his own parliament someone from his own country is going to be allowed to mention to him what a dick he is?
What difference does it make?
Nothing has changed and if he doesn't like being spoken to like that, he doesn't have to go there again.
Really nice speech, fun!
This isn't France. This isn't America. The government does what it likes.
Life and death is carried within the tongue.
I find hard to believe that your in the minority over their ! could be wrong tho.Could you confirm something for me.Are they using infer-red at night to see who is wasting heat over there.Just heard a rumor! was wondering if it was true or not.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Yes mate.
Police helicopters have them all equiped, but also they pay for private surveys. There are companies that just fly over the country scanning with IR. The government then looks at all the houses and sends a either an insulation salesman round or the drug squad depending on who is registered at that address.
They have detector van's too that drive around towns.
Wow.if thats not off the chain i dont what is...WOW.hang in their ,I beleive without a thought that the ball is rolling.
Best of luck to you and yours.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Just the interest on the U.S. government's burgeoning $9 trillion debt will soon be more than the taxpayers can afford to pay. When that happens, the economy will collapse unless the monetary system is radically overhauled. Articles are appearing daily in the news that bring the looming economic crisis into sharper focus and strengthen the case for monetary reform. Foreign central banks are increasingly abandoning the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency, while the impending implosion of the housing bubble threatens to bring down the whole money system, national and international. As the riskier mortgages go into foreclosure, the institutional investors owning them as mortgage-backed securities will be left holding the bag; and these institutional investors are largely the pension funds on which the retirements of workers depend. To keep up appearances, the "Plunge Protection Team" has been authorized by presidential order to use U.S. taxpayer money to manipulate markets to make them appear healthier than they are, and lately it has been working overtime. But official assurances of a "soft landing" are mere window dressing, aimed at preventing another worldwide depression as home buyers and stock market investors stampede for the exits.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Tongues?
Talking doesn't change sod all. If all you do in life is talk, be prepared to get ignored any time someone doesn't want to hear what you have to say.
Much like that guy in Youtube has been ignored his entire political life.
As that monetary collapse gets closer the government can and will take more and more emergency powers to see it off.
What it won't do is sack everyone in government to save money, it will just take over stuff. Appoint new regulators to oversee it all. Tax stuff. provide state sector jobs to unemployment black spots.
Until like Belgium you reach a tipping point where over half the people work for the government, when in an electoral system, half the population can always vote itself more. And that's it right there. Communism. A one party system.
These people think that they can fix the economy. They think it's up to them and they are the best ones for the job. The worse it gets the more power they take. The more power they take, the more they have to interefere to justify having taken that power, the more they interefere the more they screw it up, the more screwed up it gets the more power they need to take to fix it.....
On and on.
They will nationalise it rather than stop spending other peoples money on bribing their electorate.
Which one of the millions of political speakers on youtube are you talking about Baff?
The guy in those links above. The MEP.
Have a look at some of his other videos to see exactly how seriously people take him. To see how much he has changed things.
Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
He is bang in tune with British public opinion. Wants out of the EU, wants the government to stop enlarging. Wants the Prime Minister to resign.
But it will never happen because the other politiicans, they don't want that. They want jobs in the EU themselves and they want to use other peoples money to save the world and they want to bribe their electorates and run big important offices with lots of staff and better wages.
He can talk as much as he likes. Nothing he says will ever come to pass.
Believe me !!! i do hear it in your voice,,,Reason i say summer is just because the Summer heat has a way of bring out the worst in people.We will have to see,that was a nice speech was it not, sent to me from a friend in UK.He seem to be abit more optimistic than you i must say..ha ha
Our bonds this last 3 days are not selling as well as hoped too,their pumping to much cash into the system to fast.Pension are going to be in real trouble soon,next shoe to drop it would appear.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
My pension is 1/5 of what it was.
Phooey!
Got to laugh.
And yes great speech. Top entertainment.
Believe me !!! i do hear it in your voice,,,Reason i say summer is just because the Summer heat has a way of bring out the worst in people.We will have to see,that was a nice speech was it not, sent to me from a friend in UK.He seem to be abit more optimistic than you i must say..ha ha
Our bonds this last 3 days are not selling as well as hoped too,their pumping to much cash into the system to fast.Pension are going to be in real trouble soon,next shoe to drop it would appear.
What a very well thought out argument.
"I can hear it in your voice"
Actually you can't even hear his voice.
Summer heat has a way to bring out the worst in people?
wow....just wow...
Remember asking the magic 8 ball a question,,the one with the little eye glass on it, always had the answer.you made me think of that.Well i do see the folly of it,we have much the same here. "Rolls eyes"
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Boy, you dont the HECK know whatcha talking about. I grew up in a socialist country. You have NO IDEA what socialism means. The truth we realized now is, that it isnt capitalism that is theatened, it is capitalism that's the threat!
You have been fed with so much misinformation, it sickens me. As if there was only dark age communism or total free market and no in between. I thought we stopped thinking in such extremes some time ago? Fact is that total free market is just as bad as total control of the government; there must be some form of balance, and after some sorts of speculative money making put the traditional capitalism at risk, it is a logical thing to make some controls. Freedoms ends where actions endanger the entire system itself! After all, a democratic goverment is for the common good, not the particular good of 2% stock brokers and high risk traders.
So readjustments are the logical consequence of the system failure. I dont see why there is such a fuzz over simple, logical reactions and necessities.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
unfortunetly the major EU countries aren't backing the czech president.
from the article:
"Shocked by the outburst, other European politicians went into damage control mode, with some reproaching the Czech leader for his language and others reaffirming their good diplomatic ties with the United States. The leaders of EU's major nations — France, Britain and Germany, among others — largely ignored Topolanek and his remarks."
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All of these countries giving GOOD money to BAD banks is the worst "economic" plan I ever seen in my LIFE.
It is causing a world-wide depression, regardless if the DOW is up 10 points or down 5.
This is the most serious politic-economic-social-financial disaster in the past 100 years.
Let's revisit a video of Milton Friedman posted by Frodus a few days ago on another thread. Mr. Friedman, the 1976 Nobel Prize winner in Economics, knows a thing or two about market systems. I don't know as much as Uncle Milt, but I do know that free markets create wealth and goverment consumes it.
By unfortunately, you mean fortunately I take it. I'm sure most of these politicians are socialists themselves and are, therefore, in favor of America's big ticket spending. That doesn't make them right.
So they liked the anti war candidate in 2008
Big deal.
he isn't even anti war
and obama poll numbers are dropping like a rock no one in america wants him in power anymore outside the sick libs and dems
So they liked the anti war candidate in 2008
Big deal.
he isn't even anti war
and obama poll numbers are dropping like a rock no one in america wants him in power anymore outside the sick libs and dems
Sounds like an opportune time for a new False Flag event... Rally them back to the flag! MUAHAHAHA!!!!
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"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush, discussing the decline of the French economy with British Prime Minister Tony Blair
Interesting idea..... so when representives from Russia and Zimbawa team up and seize a small control and begin to regulate reforms for there regions that directly and negitivly effect your region you'll still be cool with this?
Most Americans agree that socialism is an awesome idea.
We just are a little wary of giving complete control of government, money AND the worlds strongest military all to the same people. (our generation or 6 generations ahead of us)
Keep them seperate and hope for the best.
** I mean it just smells like a bad recipe. Somthing you dont want in the oven.
***The last serious liberal president we had forced the American people against their will to go to some boondock Asian country for crying out load. All in the name of their version of democracy, why only the unbathed and drug induced "Peace, love and chicken grease" crowd seen this as a MAJOR problem just escapes me.
Because they keep suggesting the same self serving re-adjustments that just made it so much worse last tim, and the time before that and we as a people cannot afford it to get any worse anymore. It has become a crisis.
What put capitalism at risk is government over regulation. Enforced lending to high risk borrowers. The promotion of borrowing and debt led consumer booms to get the nation out of successive downturns, until there was nothing left to lend and the downtown could be delayed no more.
The government in my country replaced an existing succesful regulator with a new body of state regultors, who guess what?
Didn't have clue about regulating because they were all political appointee's not ex banking staff and "high risk traders and stock brokers" and they were under the direction of the headline seeking state not the money seeking Bank of England. The last thing we need is more governmental regulation. Give me back the high risk traders and stock brokers please, BCCI and Bearings Bank pales in comparison to the level and quantitiy of financial disasters we have now.
A democratic government is not for the common good, it is primarily for the good of the government. It is a self serving instrument.
The first responsability of any democratic party is to get into power.
By unfortunately, you mean fortunately I take it. I'm sure most of these politicians are socialists themselves and are, therefore, in favor of America's big ticket spending. That doesn't make them right.
All right wingers are largely ignored in Europe. The far right is quite often outlawed completely.
France, Britain and Germany are all large enough to ignore everyone all the time and do.
The EU is set up to be a direct counter to the U.S.
Close alliance with the U.S. by it's members is almost seen as treachery. The cowds all boo and hiss at any such suggestion that U.S. co-operation/integration is more important to you than theirs.