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Poll: Does the lack of ship interiors decrease your interest in this game?
kingfelix
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This seems to be a pretty heated topic on these forums, so I thought I'd see where the majority stands. And to certain fanbois out there who shall remain nameless, try to remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so let's try to keep it civil.
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The announcement that there wouldn't be interiors was one of the big things that cemented my interest in STO. It showed me that the developers had their thinking caps on, and the game was well on it's way to being a success. It ndicated that the game would be more populated with people that wanted to actually play instead of walking around inside their ships being useless.
It showed they knew what they really needed to concentrate on as opposed to wasting their time including something that only a few would appriciate, and even at that, most of those would only appreciate them for maybe the first month, then completely ignore them.
Note how fishy it is that suddenly and mysteriously there's all this activity to vote in this poll soon after it goes up.
Yes very much so, i will not play til they are in.
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As a former empire Director on ATS TrekMUSH and TOS TrekMUSE it's game breaking for me.
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What do you mean with no interiors???
Isnt this suppose to be a sci-fi space MMO same as SWG, and you cant be inside the ships?? How will they pull that of? Sounds weird to me.
I guess you've not heard of Eve Online then.
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I guess you've not heard of Eve Online then.
When i wrote my post, i did the mistake and assume that we talked about Star Treck. I know EVE. But in Star Treck much of the story take place inside ships. And that they want to remove. If that does not sound weird, i dont know what does.
I guess you've not heard of Eve Online then.
When i wrote my post, i did the mistake and assume that we talked about Star Treck. I know EVE. But in Star Treck much of the story take place inside ships. And that they want to remove. If that does not sound weird, i dont know what does.
Exactly, but Cryptic doesn't get that. They're making Star "EvE" Trek. Just substitute gate camps with new types of Trek fleet furballs.
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Yes, I definately will not play it.
Its 2009...........
If you make a STAR TREK game.............
MAKE IT WITH SHIP INTERIORS.......
To me, all signs point that they are cutting corners and rushing the game by not adding ship interiors.
SWG had nice ship interiors that you could decorate. How old is that game??????? 5 years?????
No interiors? Sounds like they are missing the point of a lot of what made Star Trek so appealing, that of the "in-ship" action/politics/plots.
Maybe it was simply too large to be able to get that kind of scope & potential into a "mere game".
I guess you've not heard of Eve Online then.
I would like to see ship interiors in both games... At least STO will give you an avatar that can walk around at all. There WILL be parts of the game that take place in ship interios.... You just don't get to stroll around inside your own ship. Admittedly lame, but not something that would keep me from trying the game out.
I think it speaks volumes about the type of game they are making. It's going to be an action MMO, and probably won't have the kind of depth it would take to keep me interested for too long. Unfortunately, I think the same thing will be true for the Star Wars MMO. Who knows, maybe Eve will have ambulation and ship interiors before either of those games patch in enough content to be worthwhile. The the only things Eve will have going against it are the lack of compelling PvP and the stupid 30 minute alt-tab warp travel system.
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No, because I could care less about visiting a place if there's no reason to. Since many of the missions in game will take place on ships and starbases, I could care less about visiting them AGAIN.And for the trolls out there who shall remain nameless, remember that "everyone has a right to their opinion" goes both ways.
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I agree, if it were as simple as not having ship interiors it wouldn't have bothered me but theres lots of gameplay options that cannot be realized if you cannot even walk inside your ship and as you said it says alot of the type of game they are making. As for the new Star Wars MMO I didn't expect anything from that but I thought star trek may indeed offer some more depth. It just seems like it'll be dumbed down eve with some quest on planets.
I agree, if it were as simple as not having ship interiors it wouldn't have bothered me but theres lots of gameplay options that cannot be realized if you cannot even walk inside your ship and as you said it says alot of the type of game they are making. As for the new Star Wars MMO I didn't expect anything from that but I thought star trek may indeed offer some more depth. It just seems like it'll be dumbed down eve with some quest on planets.
Except players will be walking around ships in episodes where doing so is relevant to the story being told. Please go and learn something about the game. Thanks.
I agree, if it were as simple as not having ship interiors it wouldn't have bothered me but theres lots of gameplay options that cannot be realized if you cannot even walk inside your ship and as you said it says alot of the type of game they are making. As for the new Star Wars MMO I didn't expect anything from that but I thought star trek may indeed offer some more depth. It just seems like it'll be dumbed down eve with some quest on planets.
And if your prediction turns out to be mostly accurate it will be a very big opportunity that has been missed.
Except players will be walking around ships in episodes where doing so is relevant to the story being told. Please go and learn something about the game. Thanks.
Well thats of no relevance. The point is the gameplay options that cannot be realized, I actually said "if it were as simple as not having ship interiors it wouldn't have bothered me". I don't see how being able to walk around your ship in what sounds like a completely linear quest aspect changes anything.
I agree, if it were as simple as not having ship interiors it wouldn't have bothered me but theres lots of gameplay options that cannot be realized if you cannot even walk inside your ship and as you said it says alot of the type of game they are making. As for the new Star Wars MMO I didn't expect anything from that but I thought star trek may indeed offer some more depth. It just seems like it'll be dumbed down eve with some quest on planets.
And if your prediction turns out to be mostly accurate it will be a very big opportunity that has been missed.
I agree that it's one of the possibilities... But I can image Eve with avatars and ground missions, and it sounds pretty good to me. Ship interiors or not. Even a dumbed down PvE heavy version of Eve would be a pretty decent game with those additions.
We'll just have to wait and see. I'll approach it with cautious optimism until then. Every Star Trek game I ever bought was terrible. But thousands of hours watching the show sine I was kid keep me coming back for more. Hopefully this will finally be a GOOD Star Trek game.
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agreed! sad its 2009 halfway to 2010 and they cant even pull that off! LMAO
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agreed! sad its 2009 halfway to 2010 and they cant even pull that off! LMAO
Yes, it's truly sad that Cryptic can't measure up the greatness that is SWG.
/sarcasm off
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how long did it take for ship interiors to come out in SWG? i think it would be only fair to give these guys the same amount of time to implement that system if they even plan to. i will play this game regardless. being able to walk around your ship is cool and all. I very rarely did it in swg and found it a pain in the ass sometimes and quite boring.
Pretty much how I felt. If there's nothing to do in the room then why go to it? I'm not paying money every month just to play house. This game is not going to be a sim, so people looking for that type of game need to go looking someplace else.
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I recently bought the entire Next generation box set, all 7 seasons, I am halfway through season 6 and loving it so much that I am watching 2 or 3 every night (much to my wifes displeasure).
The thing I have noticed so far is that there is very little ship to ship combat and even less out of ship action. Therefore I am totally amazed that the MMO based on this series is to be mainly focused on playing 'a Ship'.
Do Cryptic not employ researchers? Or are they just not good enough to make a more realistic Star trek game, I think the latter.
The conclusion for me is that Star Trek On-line will get very boring very fast. I hate Eve, I am a person and therefore want to play a person, not a damn ship. I want no out of ship control, I want all battles to be viewed from the bridge main screen. If it's Srat Trek then make Star trek but don't abuse this great title with a different version of Eve.
We are not stupid fan boys that will buy this game simply because it's called Star Trek. As you can see the vast majority want to actually play a Star trek MMO not another EvE MMO.
I like the idea of ship interiors as it pertains to gameplay, when it's called for in other words.
For instance, maybe desperate situations on the bridge, or through corridors when the ship is boarded. Maybe at certain times when Im hailed, to communicate with other species, the view screen would be nice to have, so yea in events like that.
So if it's there in the events in needs to be, then I'm ok with not having 100% interior play, they could reserve that for hubs and still build a really great star trek game. Granted, there probably isnt a star trek fan out there who doesnt want to walk the decks of the Enterprise or Deep space nine in a virtual world, but really what would we do sitting in our quarters and or roaming hallways 100% of the time? lol There isnt anything going on in there. So yea, I can't personally say I'd miss this too much, although it would probably be nice for those who hardcore roleplay or just wanna cybez with a tellarite or somethin rofl.
Star Trek to me has always been a combination of what goes on inside the ship....Captain and Crew and their teamwork to solve problems, and the Ships themselves with interstellar flight, exploration, and combat.
Star Trek with only Ships, but no ship interiors or multi-character Crews is pointless to me. I had hoped that a Star Trek MMO would encompass both inside the ship (with allowing Players to not only command a ship as a Captain but also allow Players to fill the roles of the Bridge, Engineering, and Science Officers under the command of the Player Captain) AND outside the Ship with an excellent ship to ship space combat engine and an awesome virtual world in space.
As I understand the design of Star Trek Online (as it is now planned) we will get just another space battle MMO that is missing at least half of what made Star Trek so incredible....and quite frankly the MMO market already has several space battle MMOs....we don't need any more of those. Star Trek Online could have offered us MMOgamers a new experience....cooperative and emmersive in character/inside ship environment where the Players filled the roles of Captain and Crew AND a kickarse space battle environment, but apparently it won't.
So I voted that I have lost interest in Star Trek Online with it's present development agenda.
***Developers!!! Please for once think "outside the box" and stop just remaking what is already offerred in the market. Please no more cookie-cutter!!***
Yea you make some good points there man, but what are people going to do while traveling across space inside the ship?Duel the engineering officer? LOL I could just imagine people doin that now and then havin some nut in the back brown baggin a kilingon chick. Sorry, I know some people are hyped about interior play, but just imagine, this is the gaming community in a Star Trek game we're talking about here, you guys realize how hard its going to be eitherway just trying to avoid approaching or hailing a ship without people spammin, "Ir Teh CaptaIN JaneWayz! Will U JOin MY FL33T! or WTS MODIFIED HULL PLATING! 40 MILL! PST"
gah... makes me have second thoughts about anyone developing a star trek title at all...
The ship could be like your guild camp, you send the ship to various parts of the universe to do verious quests in that particular area. These quests should involve getting boarded, beaming to other planets and yes, the odd ship to ship battle in which players need to monitor their particular station. NPC's can easily fill the roles if certain players are off-line. There are many ways to do this.
No one is advocating that the ship should be a place thats boring with nothing happening, the ship could have your bank, auction, training and Holodeck as well as a variety of quests.
The vast majority of quests should take place on planets or other ships where other races can also be present doing their quests which could be the PvP bit.
Basically if Cryptic could be bothered they could make STO the best MMO ever made but I think they are taking the easy lazy option and it will no doubt bite them in the ass sometime down the road.