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I always thought the godfather was a boring ass movie, I think the forth installment of MGS was a joke (worse than two), and I find candy and sweets disgusting...0o
Funny how ppl opinions and taste can be so different...ain't it...;P
And on a further note, honestly has the world gone mad, MGS4 was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played...I mean WTF!! I like the idea of Old Snake....but come one!
-Meryl marries that idiot.
-Big Boss come back in the end just to die again from foxdie...lol... epic FAIL Hideo Kojima!!....EPIC!!
-Raiden made to be even more bad ass than Snake while in high heels saving Snakes life again and agonizingly again.../facepalm
-And......
yeah maybe I should stop here before I write up a 10 paragraph flame over how badly that game sucked...>>
Oh and...
MGS4 fan = fu{king fu{king stupid ass retard that needs to be decapitated on site...Drrrrrrhh.....0o
lol
I guess you are just one of those people that don't enjoy good games. MGS4 was a great game. Anyone can tell you that.
I don't understand why you're upset about Meryl marrying Johnny. He's a recurring and lovable character. After acting idiotic, he redeems himself by being all badass defending Meryl and himself from the super-soldiers after Snake continues. And it's part of Meryl's personality to be with someone she can have dominance over. She's an alpha female badass, derf.
Back on topic, have fun with your gun cooldowns and stale MMO mechanics. Most of us will pass and go to Mortal Online for our Sandbox MMO. As soon as they changed the combat system, the game just lost what got so many people to get on the bandwagon.
I like how you can never come to these forums and get a healthy amount of quality information or discussion about a game. Nope- instead you run into threads like these that are six pages and god knows how many comments too long.
The thread should of ended where it started, but no.
I always thought the godfather was a boring ass movie, I think the forth installment of MGS was a joke (worse than two), and I find candy and sweets disgusting...0o
Funny how ppl opinions and taste can be so different...ain't it...;P
And on a further note, honestly has the world gone mad, MGS4 was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played...I mean WTF!! I like the idea of Old Snake....but come one!
-Meryl marries that idiot.
-Big Boss come back in the end just to die again from foxdie...lol... epic FAIL Hideo Kojima!!....EPIC!!
-Raiden made to be even more bad ass than Snake while in high heels saving Snakes life again and agonizingly again.../facepalm
-And......
yeah maybe I should stop here before I write up a 10 paragraph flame over how badly that game sucked...>>
Oh and...
MGS4 fan = fu{king fu{king stupid ass retard that needs to be decapitated on site...Drrrrrrhh.....0o
lol
I guess you are just one of those people that don't enjoy good games. MGS4 was a great game. Anyone can tell you that.
I don't understand why you're upset about Meryl marrying Johnny. He's a recurring and lovable character. After acting idiotic, he redeems himself by being all badass defending Meryl and himself from the super-soldiers after Snake continues. And it's part of Meryl's personality to be with someone she can have dominance over. She's an alpha female badass, derf.
Back on topic, have fun with your gun cooldowns and stale MMO mechanics. Most of us will pass and go to Mortal Online for our Sandbox MMO. As soon as they changed the combat system, the game just lost what got so many people to get on the bandwagon.
MGS4 good game?...yeah
Good story?....rofl
Take a script like that to anyone that knows anything about film making and story telling and you'll be literally laughed out of the building.....the story is just so retarded and there is so many things wrong with it I can't even begin to explain.
You see, there's a reason why all video games turned into movies have sucked so much ass it's not even funny. You see your brain doesn't work the same when you're playing a game compared to when you're watching a movie...and it's called the immersion factor.
In video games it's a lot more easier to get sucked into the game because you're playing part in it compared to movie where it really really really requires a good story to get you in tuned.
You see, when the immersion factor is high in either a game or movie or what ever, so is your sense of suspension of disbelief....and the higher that is the easier it is to fool someone in any sort of crap.
Especially making you think MGS4 has a good story.
So in conclusion...yes, MGS4 is a good game...but fuck no....does it have a good story...lol
Just from a little experience firing guns in the past. (1980s)
1. The 1980s British standard military rifle based upon the Belgium FN ..we called the SLR, took a magazine of 20 rounds, after that you needed to change mags, after about 3 mags, depending on the origin of the rounds, the automatic reload mechanizim would start to jam rounds on reload, so you needed to stop and turn down the gass setting. once you reached 0 on the setting the rifle was basically manual and you had to cock and reload each time. Also at the lower setting the recoil could really punch, so often you were less accurate.
2. The Light Machine Gun of the same era, based upon the BREN of WW2 but with 7.62mm rounds was also mag fed, with a 40 round mag, and had similar problems with the SLR, but after a few rounds the barrel would glow red and start to warp, gunners carried a spare barrel, but after that was used the gun was of no use, and if you continued you could kill yourself.
Why did I bother to mention this, well in all weapons there are problems, cool downs, reloads, jams and other little incedents that make use not 100% certain. Gamers add in factors like this, so we dont get arcade boys running about with infinet ammo killing everything insight with no skill.
Oh and I did fire a 9mm browning, and I would like to see anyone hit a target using one single handed while running.
If anyone here thinks Earthrise is a WoW clone I encourage y'all to research the game. Earthrise, if anything, is a land based EVE. There are no classes or instances in Earthrise. Everything in the game will be player crafted. Players/guilds can own and control territory and build modular structures on controlled territory.
PvP is completely open. There are the obvious safe areas and zones to prevent newbie griefing but these safe zones follow the pockets of civilization of which there are only three known at the moment (one for each of the two factions and then one for criminals).
So if i get it straight Earthrise is a WoW clone with Guns who have "stupid cooldowns" A Post Apocalyptic Setting instead of fantasy, without classes nor lvls and and completely open pvp....
Yukumo i think u seriously have no idea what the hell u are saying and by posting ridiculous comments like these u are only provoking those who HAVE done some research and what the hell "weapon cooldowns" = stupid ??
Pfft...
you mind if i steal this for a sig? LOLZ!
lol
which i do support after i tried it out
on a more serious note, from their faq
"Yes. PvP will be an important part of the game. Players will have the opportunity to kill other players – but not without consequences."
Consequences? What kind of consequences? an abusable alignment system like one thats in darkfail online?
anyone have some news on pvp?
lol
which i do support after i tried it out
on a more serious note, from their faq
"Yes. PvP will be an important part of the game. Players will have the opportunity to kill other players – but not without consequences."
Consequences? What kind of consequences? an abusable alignment system like one thats in darkfail online?
anyone have some news on pvp?
My god... does anyone on this forum even pay attention to the game they are posting about...?
Oh... right... this is MMORPG.com huh...
Consequences are as follows.
You die, any and all loot that is uninsured will be taken. What is insured, you'll get a bit of a profit from that, to make sure that killing someone fully insured is still worth it.
If you kill someone, they can place a bounty on your head (this is, of course, outside of territory wars).
There is talks of of some skills being able to hurt your own faction (not quite concrete though as far as I know or remember), but by injuring and killing people of your own faction, their "rep" so to speak drops.
I'm not going to bother with the horrid excuses of "trolling", they are embarassing themselves more than enough already. Yet I'll address the few videos they have shown. None have been true "combat" videos as people keep assuming. If you open your eyes a little, the toolbars are filled with skills, and all the person uses in the demonstration of the lock-on (thats all the so-called combat vid is supposed to be doing) is the basic auto-attack. Weapon speeds will differ depending on the weapon used, think of it as the swing/reload/whatever timer.
I'll say this though, judging a game solely on the fact that the person's native language isn't English is just horrible, and perhaps one of the lowest things someone can do, which puts them well below the standards even the worst trolls. It clearly shows you had nothing else to attack, and had to resort to more personal ones.
Finally, somebody who realizes wow that wow was the first mmo to ever use cooldowns! Also, everything from WoW is totally original and it did not copy anything from any other game. Even DKP was created in WoW (it was everquest for those that dont know)
A cooldown for shooting a gun is much more believable then say a cooldown for gouging somebody's eyes out (although they do take 5 seconds to grow back).
Finally, somebody who realizes wow that wow was the first mmo to ever use cooldowns! Also, everything from WoW is totally original and it did not copy anything from any other game. Even DKP was created in WoW (it was everquest for those that dont know)
A cooldown for shooting a gun is much more believable then say a cooldown for gouging somebody's eyes out (although they do take 5 seconds to grow back).
Cooldown for firing guns AKA Recoil.All guns ahve it the bigger the gun the biggerthe recoil.Recoil pushes you up which is a delay so it would be considered as a cooldown.
Like pong i keep bouncing back and forth between games.
The word cooldown sounds scary for many people as the don't understand what Masthead is doing there. It's the same thing EvE Online does within their system...
It's called Rate of Fire.
A modern Assault-Rifle seems to have no cooldowns, because the RoF is that high. But then you need to reload every 3 seconds, if you go on auto-fire. Reloading is also a cooldown.
So stop talking cooldowns for weapons please, as this is simply not the right term. We're talking of RoF here and every weapon has a RoF.
The powerful future guns in Earthrise have slow RoF as they need to charge energy for every shot first. It's that simple.
So if you want to play a game with no cooldowns, then your can play alot of MMOFPS that will come out within short order now, so just leave Earthrise alone.
Additionally, judging a game for an alpha-video, that was made to show the basic gamemechanics can hardly tell, how fast the combat will actually be in the end. You don't know, if the person was mashing the buttons as fast as he could, or if he was drinking coffee inbetween.
Just saying.
*Applauds* *claps*
Probably the dumbest, most ignorant comment I read on mmorpg.com and I've read some real beauties...
Lol. Cooldown = WoW clone. Are you serious or just being ironic? This statement is so incredibly... mentally challenged... that I really don't know what to do with it.
While the OP could have phrased it in a much more cognizant way, it'd be entirely ignorant to dismiss his point because of his anti-wow fanboyism.
The facts (from the early gameplay vids) remain: A large group of people believed this to be an MMO3PS/RPG hybrid. The presence of a hotbar showing a variety of action-oriented moves that would be done by mouseclicks in a FPS is very telling.
To say that people were hoping for "Darkfall with guns" is, at once, very truthful and off-mark. If we're going to stick with poorly fitted MMO analogies, describing the Earthrise as we know it as WoW-with-looting-and-guns is not so far off base.
Using WoW to describe the control method, instead of the base-building, crafting, etc is very apropos and very alarming to a great deal of people.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I didn't see a cooldown for firing a rifle. I saw a cooldown for a specific rifle attack and the absence of a normal rifle shot mixed with the absence of an aiming mechanic.
This could all change, of course, but I can only react to what has been shown- not what I hope will be.
The reason, why you have a action-bar is quiet simple actually.
In a FPS you've to walk over a mdkit and it is directly applied to your healthpool. In a MMO like Earthrise however, you need to activate the "medkit" first. Without a action-bar this would'nt be possible, right?
Fallen Earth has reload-timers of 3 seconds, during which time you can't fire and the guns and other weapons have all a rate of fire. These are basic RPG-mechanics.
And Fallen Earth has a action-bar, allthough it looks like a 3rd person shooter basically and it plays as such aswell. The action-bar is needed to trigger abilities. And god forbid the abilities to have cooldowns, or weapons to have reload-timers...
Hell, i really hate when 10 year-old milk suckers dont just stick to consoles (untill theyr mental capabilities improve), but try to comment something that other ppl are doing for far longer then the little whiners' pathetic life - playing/ creating MMORPG's
Dear topic starter, WoW is not the first MMORPG on the market. Stating that every other MMORPG is just "WOW with something else" is like saying that every music is like Elvis Presley, just a bit different or that the pancakes taste like chicken, but with maple syrup... Go play Mario Bros. for the next year and then every other game will (im sure) look to u exactly the same, JUST with guns/ swords/ RPG elements/ no jump and run etc. So get ur a$$ out of the Battlegrounds and go see what "a walk in the park is" ... no its not a special skill and there's no stamina requirement... actually there is but i'm sure that any WoW nerd could do it if he has the will to manage to stay awake for 36-48 hours waiting for the next instance group.
Peace.
Hey braindead kid, listen.
Go troll some bigshot game company with infinite funding that keeps launching garbage MMOs.
Really.
There is no excuse for those well established rich companies for releasing trash after trash.
We deal here with young team of starting developers that are not afraid to take some risks and have shown a will (means no arrogance) to change their game to the customer`s liking.
Or just STFU, that`s also a good option for you.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
This thread is officially obsolete. The original complaint was "guns with cooldowns waaaaagh!". Well look at this:
"We have sped up combat and movement, and given players complete control on their character. In comparison with traditional MMORPGs, Earthrise definitely feels more dynamic and deadlier."
Interview with Onlinewelten.
"Actually, just now we are developing a new combat system, because we met a fairly negative reaction from the players when they first showed fight to the public ... In addition, we reduce the recharge time skills, so that automatic weapons can, for example, to shoot without stopping." (May sound weird as it's translated from Russian.)
GoHa.ru as translated on the ER forums.
Man, this thread is utterly lame, and upsetting. MMORPG.com needs to give every member on here a number like 100 and a button beside are names, and everytime someone who has no friggin brain like the op, posts something like this crap, we can push that button and the number drops down by 1 or whatever ( you cant just keep pressing it, you can only click it once like every 24 hours or maybe 12 depending on the administrator) and when that number hits 0, your a$$ is deleted and banned from ever coming back to this site! PLEASE PLEASE implement this!!! We dont need idiot posts like this!
I am so good, I backstabbed your face!
Yeah it sucks.
That gameplay movies backfired real badly.
Yeah it sucks.
That gameplay movies backfired real badly.
And the devs are responding, automatic weapons no longer have a cooldown and the rate of fire for other guns has been reduced. Check the sticky for the latest info.
Yeah it sucks.
That gameplay movies backfired real badly.
I don't see how it backfired. It exposed an incomplete and less than exciting combat system. The response to the video made the devs entirely re-design ER's combat engine.
Isn't this exactly the response ER's detractors wanted to illicit?
As an ER fanboi I'll admit that those videos, even in proper context, did not look impressive. I'm glad they shared the videos though so that they could gauge the feedback and realize they were headed in the wrong direction.
What was the alternative? Wait until it was close to beta and it was too late? All in all I think things have worked wonderfully IMO.
Combat has been promised to be more TPS/Tabula Rasa oriented which is fantastic. TR had the best combat of any MMO I've ever experienced. CoX had some pretty nice combat though... mostly due to the great integration of the Z axis and vertical movement.
Well I guess you should keep playing WoW then!
Nobody wants that kind of players in Earthrise. And learn english before posting.