Critics/buggs

Khan187

Hey guys

First of all, I like Aion and been waiting for it for a long while, since they brought out the first cinematic lol. I have started playing Chinese BETA and found that some functions of the game is ... annoying/frustrating.

It maybe just me lagging, so Im here to talk to you guys and find out if it's me or if the game needs some work in the named area.

Ultimately my intention is to make Aion more fun/enjoyable. I will play it no matter what lol.

Basically my frustration is the 1-2 second waiting time before you char hits the mob even though you have clicked "Attack" icon and your char has ran upto the mob.

Annoyance/Frustration while fighting

This is what is happening to me:

1) I use TAB to select a target

2) press the 1 key (above Q key on keyboard) as it is mapped for "Attack/interract"

3) char draws sword and runs to selected target mob

4) char stops there for 1-2 seconds (this is my annoyance, why on earth would your char do that?)

5) char hits the mob after 1-2 second of zoning out, sometimes mobs sense my presence and hit me before I hit them, EVEN though my char has ran upto it first with the sword/s drawn out .. and was waiting to be hit first? LoL

 

If i was lagginig then everything would have delay for me. The movement seems fluid with jumps/wing spread except the time warp (sometimes my char gets teleported back in time by approx 1-2 seconds). I can understand the time warp, this could be that my client is having lags or delay since the server is so far away (I live in UK btw).

Another thing that I have noticed is that, when I want to sit down and regen after a fight .. there is that animation delay again ... it does not stop my char or anything .. but it does bring frustration/annoyance.

I do understand that this game is in BETA and is in test mode on Chinese territory. I just want to point out things that can be fixed/looked at while it is in the developing/localising stage.

Please feel free to contribute your constructive ideas/suggestions. Would love to hear what my fellow fans have been experiecing.

Non the less, the game is damn beautiful and fun. Just finished Ascending to a Templar (lvl 11) and questing on Azariel (having a hard time finding friendly people to group with, for some reason people like to solo lol). IGN is : KhanDil - if anyone wana group up for questing/grinding. I usually play in between 3:30pm - 11:00pm GMT.

Thanks in advance for your comments. Hope you guys all enjoy the game as much as I do lol.

stayontarget

Lag and skill lag for me as well, Try a different server it might help you.  My server is ok until peak hours in China then I start getting skill lag.

Khan187

ahh, im not lagging. I lag occasionally and I can tell when that happens. Im saying that char should not zone out for 2 seconds before hitting a mob even though your char ran upto the mob with swords drawn out to attack it.

Im saying that the fighting is not fluid.

superpata

My advise is that you should disable the auto move to target and just use WASD movement and everything manually. The first time your char draws weapons and gets in "fighting stance" it takes a bit more time it seems. The trick is to draw weapons out before fighting so that the auto attack/skills will respond faster when you actually start fighting, but even then you will have a delay on your skills due to latency.

Main point being: There is a delay when you enter in fighting stance before you start to execute skills, so draw your weapons before combat to make sure you do not lose more time before you can execute your skills.

Khebeln

The beter the latency the faster it is. WIth 100-150ms its instant. If latency gets worse you can feel it much more.

I would recomend checking other regions. Remeber that servers are in china after all.

Khan187

for some reason i think you guys have the impression that I have lags or bad delays lol, that's not the case and that's not what i meant to say. I do lag at times ... but not all the time and im not complaining about lag.

Im complaining about the fact that there is a 1-2 sec of waiting before your char swings the first hit on a mob. Char just stands next to the mob with swords drawn out and in battle stance .. waiting that 1-2 seconds for what? lol

That's what bugging me the most when i play.

whincupd

Not in the game meyself, but your first explanation was spot on, perfectly undestandable.

 

DO others who play Aion see this 1/2 delay prior to attacking a mob! (Not lag  related)

 

 

krisooooo

Originally posted by Khan187


for some reason i think you guys have the impression that I have lags or bad delays lol, that's not the case and that's not what i meant to say. I do lag at times ... but not all the time and im not complaining about lag.
Im complaining about the fact that there is a 1-2 sec of waiting before your char swings the first hit on a mob. Char just stands next to the mob with swords drawn out and in battle stance .. waiting that 1-2 seconds for what? lol
That's what bugging me the most when i play.

 

Dude, the latency IS THE REASON for those 1-2 secs. You ARE lagging, that's why there IS delay.

 

 

GOD!

Khan187

Originally posted by krisooooo


Dude, the latency IS THE REASON for those 1-2 secs. You ARE lagging, that's why there IS delay.
GOD!

 

Are you saying this latency only happens just before my char swings the first hit on every mob? it doesn't happen when i move arround in villages/cities/towns or when i teleport to towns?

hmmz... for some reason i can't settle for the simple latency excuse. Seriously, i can understand it sometimes .. but char stopping for 1-2 sec for every mob before swinging first blow can't be latency. If it was latency and delays, then it would happen with everything. Im not talking about flashy skills either, just simple hits.

 

Maybe you are right, maybe i lag everytime i attack a mob. Can't really compare it till they bring out the game in NA/EU i guess (which will take a while lol)

Thanks for your thoughts though. Appreciate it.

 

Khan187

Originally posted by whincupd


Not in the game meyself, but your first explanation was spot on, perfectly undestandable.
 
DO others who play Aion see this 1/2 delay prior to attacking a mob! (Not lag  related)
 
 

 

Thanks a lot lol. At least there is 1 person who can understand me

aretina

Ocasionally skill lag and "rubber band" effect , still i'm amazed how polished game can be at this stage compared to other MMOs launches , its beautiful and so far fun to play , so far  i'm 100% sure about buyng English version at relase.

Khan187

Originally posted by aretina


Ocasionally skill lag and "rubber band" effect , still i'm amazed how polished game can be at this stage compared to other MMOs launches , its beautiful and so far fun to play , so far  i'm 100% sure about buyng English version at relase.

 

yeah lol. I love the time travel/rubber band thingy. makes you look twice on the screen as to where you are. I can't wait for the english version lol. I wanted to play SUN so bad .. they never got an english version out ...at least Aion will be out in English

alakram

Originally posted by Khan187


for some reason i think you guys have the impression that I have lags or bad delays lol, that's not the case and that's not what i meant to say. I do lag at times ... but not all the time and im not complaining about lag.
Im complaining about the fact that there is a 1-2 sec of waiting before your char swings the first hit on a mob. Char just stands next to the mob with swords drawn out and in battle stance .. waiting that 1-2 seconds for what? lol
That's what bugging me the most when i play.

 

In my opinion what you talk about looks like a delay in the client server communication, what we all call lag. The server is in china. Maybe this issue you are having doesnt show up when you are playing in a server closer to you. Maybe thats why they are launching the game for different territories at a time: The client needs the server relatively close to work fine. The best is to wait for the European release, then you can search for bugs and help improving the game.

Khebeln

Originally posted by alakram

Originally posted by Khan187


for some reason i think you guys have the impression that I have lags or bad delays lol, that's not the case and that's not what i meant to say. I do lag at times ... but not all the time and im not complaining about lag.
Im complaining about the fact that there is a 1-2 sec of waiting before your char swings the first hit on a mob. Char just stands next to the mob with swords drawn out and in battle stance .. waiting that 1-2 seconds for what? lol
That's what bugging me the most when i play.

 

In my opinion what you talk about looks like a delay in the client server communication, what we all call lag. The server is in china. Maybe this issue you are having doesnt show up when you are playing in a server closer to you. Maybe thats why they are launching the game for different territories at a time: The client needs the server relatively close to work fine. The best is to wait for the European release, then you can search for bugs and help improving the game.

 

Exacly Thats lag I dont have any lag from Europe on Region 4 with 200-250ms latency.

I had what you describe when i played on Region 2 thats why we changed Regions. Back then i had about 1.6k latency.

Khan187

Originally posted by alakram

Originally posted by Khan187


for some reason i think you guys have the impression that I have lags or bad delays lol, that's not the case and that's not what i meant to say. I do lag at times ... but not all the time and im not complaining about lag.
Im complaining about the fact that there is a 1-2 sec of waiting before your char swings the first hit on a mob. Char just stands next to the mob with swords drawn out and in battle stance .. waiting that 1-2 seconds for what? lol
That's what bugging me the most when i play.

 

In my opinion what you talk about looks like a delay in the client server communication, what we all call lag. The server is in china. Maybe this issue you are having doesnt show up when you are playing in a server closer to you. Maybe thats why they are launching the game for different territories at a time: The client needs the server relatively close to work fine. The best is to wait for the European release, then you can search for bugs and help improving the game.

 

Thanks very much, I think you maybe right and I will have to wait and see when we get a NA/EU server.

 

*waits patiently*

judex99

Its not lag, it happen to me also when i have enabled the "run to target" option, disable it and try, without this you will have full control of your char and your toon wont move to the target when you use a skill.

Khebeln

It might help, i got it on and its instant in Region 4, but ping is prety decent here.

Cynthe

Originally posted by superpata


My advise is that you should disable the auto move to target and just use WASD movement and everything manually. The first time your char draws weapons and gets in "fighting stance" it takes a bit more time it seems. The trick is to draw weapons out before fighting so that the auto attack/skills will respond faster when you actually start fighting, but even then you will have a delay on your skills due to latency.
Main point being: There is a delay when you enter in fighting stance before you start to execute skills, so draw your weapons before combat to make sure you do not lose more time before you can execute your skills.

 

Seems like this poster already answered

ElRenmazuo

I am having the same problem too and its because the servers are in china so there is a slight delay when making some actions because data is taking longer to go back and forth.

MNZeba

um guys... you are playing a chinese server... of course you are going to get lag...

Rikimaru_X

I feel you and I know your intentions, but you can't make this chinese one more enjoyable, but you can make the NA/EU one more enjoyable.  I have some suggestions.

3) Draw your sword out always if it goes down when you are in the fighting zone.

4) I feel you.

5) I really feel you.

stayontarget

I get the same thing. I can go up to a mob and attack it then there will be a pause (I can still move around but my attacks are delayed). It's skill lag, change servers or play when there are not as many Chinese people on and see if that helps.

LynxJSA

Originally posted by Khan187



Basically my frustration is the 1-2 second waiting time before you char hits the mob even though you have clicked "Attack" icon and your char has ran upto the mob.

 
If i was lagginig then everything would have delay for me. The movement seems fluid with jumps/wing spread except the time warp (sometimes my char gets teleported back in time by approx 1-2 seconds). I can understand the time warp, this could be that my client is having lags or delay since the server is so far away (I live in UK btw).
Another thing that I have noticed is that, when I want to sit down and regen after a fight .. there is that animation delay again ... it does not stop my char or anything .. but it does bring frustration/annoyance.
I do understand that this game is in BETA and is in test mode on Chinese territory. I just want to point out things that can be fixed/looked at while it is in the developing/localising stage.

 

You're playing on a server in China. Depending on where you are, it's probably amazing that the actions are even remotely responsive.

 

The reason you have immediate response to moving, turning, jumping, etc is because of the predictive movement handled by the client. The rubberbanding you experience is the result of the server telling your client "Whoa, he's still back there. Easy boy!"

 

Your resting, attacking, and other actions are very possibly delayed because of the lag resultant from the distance you are from the servers. I'd almost bet money on that one.

 

 

 

 

MarkJW

What the OP describes IS LATENCY. I get it too, but I've played on servers closer the the US and it's completely gone.

Khan187

Thanks a lot for the reply guys. Really opened my eyes of looking at things. One of the post about client handling movement while server handling attacks on mob makes more snese to me.

Nice to have some explanations

Appreciate it !

Khan187

Originally posted by MarkJW


What the OP describes IS LATENCY. I get it too, but I've played on servers closer the the US and it's completely gone.

 

Hey Mark

Which region and server do you play on? I am playing on the second region (2nd one form the region selection screen). I will try to move over to the server where you play, this might get rid of this latency thing.

Thanks for sharing your experience