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CHOOSE ONE: Ram Or Graphics Card

bulldogjonesbulldogjones Member Posts: 12

BULLDOG Here!

I just recently bought a ATI 9600 graphics card...but am now looking at it like its my highschool girlfriend:  Does the trick, but not as pleasing to the eye as a new, faster board.  Any of you guys that stay up on system requirements know which is better:

Better Video Card: ie worth the money it costs to go from the ATI 9600

Or

More Ram:  Currently I have 512 MB ....(I know I should Have more)

ohhh...and did anyone read the Newsweek article on Alienware computers.  Damn things are so crazy liquid cool ...it makes me nuts...however for $5,000 dollars you have to ask yourself.  Downpayment on a house...new car...or satisfy my need to be a complete nerd (not just a weekend nerd).

BULLDOG OUT!

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  • LoneshadowLoneshadow Member Posts: 49
    I personly would go with another 512mb Ram.  All MMORPGs that I have played eat up alot of Ram.

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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263

    I can get a liquid cooling kit for $150.  And I bet my PC is better then that $5000 one.

    Tough call.  RAM or video... hmmm... EQ2.

    Can you tell me a little bit more about your current setup.

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  • dsorrentdsorrent Member CommonPosts: 1,627

    Well, IMO it's hard to say.  If the game is stuttering and stuff, then you should probably go with more RAM, but if the game looks smooth but just looks crappy, then go with the video card.  I think your best bet is to probably wait until the game comes out, install it and see how it plays.  This buys you 2 things:

    1) You'll get a better feel for where your bottleneck is occuring

    2)  The prices on both RAM and Video Cards will come down between now and then.

    Just my $0.02

  • NeoKyosuke18NeoKyosuke18 Member Posts: 204

    whats your processor?

    I have a Radeon 9200 128mb card and only 512 mb ram in my pc and I run fine!

    I have a 2.5ghz athelon xp

    If it were my choice, I'd say screw the card Yours is fine and go for the ram...

  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263

    One thing that erks me when people ask for help with computers is this.

    Hi!1111!  I have a computer, it's slow, I need faster... RAM or videocard?

    WTF crap is this?  You need to explain what you have for a WHOLE system... that will make it 1000x easier for people to help JOO!

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  • jimhusjimhus Member UncommonPosts: 180

    I'd wait for the game:

    • If it plays fine: do nothing.
    • If it plays fine only with graphic options turned down - get a new video card.
    • If it is not good even with low graphic settings: get the Ram.

    Ultimately - you may need both. If you have to get one now: I'd go with the Ram.

  • EffectEffect Member UncommonPosts: 949

    What about processing power. The card and ram might be find but if you have low processing power that right there could be the problem.

  • dsorrentdsorrent Member CommonPosts: 1,627



    Originally posted by Djin

    One thing that erks me when people ask for help with computers is this.
    Hi!1111!  I have a computer, it's slow, I need faster... RAM or videocard?
    WTF crap is this?  You need to explain what you have for a WHOLE system... that will make it 1000x easier for people to help JOO!
    My dog doesn't walk, vet or food?!


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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263

    We don't know because Bulldog isn't replying.

    When/if he replies, we hopefully will get a better understanding of his PC.

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  • aeric67aeric67 Member UncommonPosts: 798

    Getting a graphics card that is better than the 9600 you already have will cost probably 2-3 times what doubling your RAM would cost, so I'd go with the RAM. EQ2 should run on that card "okay".

    Then later on, when today's cutting edge cards come down in price, you can use the money you saved now combined with whatever else you save to buy a very good graphics card. Since EQ2 will be out by then you can find out what card it REALLY works well with.

  • rathmarathma Member UncommonPosts: 3,786

     I will probably get RAM first. EQ2 eats up RAM like i eat up my monday morning breakfast.

     Alot of things need to load in the game, especially things in the city. Thats why i needm ore ram.

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  • seoulsseouls Member Posts: 4
    Without a doubt ram, 512 is the min and even one gig is kinda week when there are any number of players arownd you in EQ2. 2 gigs is choice though. Drop the cash on the ram and keep the old GF. Atleast you know she is less likly to cheat =p

  • phantomrileyphantomriley Member Posts: 45

    My opinion would be go for the ram upgrade to a minimum of 1 gig. To my understanding the ram give you greater perfmorance gains in respect to loading times. For referencing back to EQ1... as most can remember when your character turned around there would be some lag time and or chopiness... this would be defeated from a ram upgrade.

    Now when installing a new graphics card I was able to see better performance when casting with spell effects... particles etc.

    So my answer would be your graphics card should be enough to handle the game, just adjust the particle settings and maybe some minor graphics settings. Gains from adding more ram will allow you to keep models and resolution turned up, while with the graphics settings for particles and other minors will allow for steady performance.

  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263

    My $0.02.

    Couldn't SOE optomize their game.  I understand it's ment to be played for years to come on the newest hardware... but isn't 2GB asking a lot?  I understand the point of RAM, but come on.

    Really, the only people that use 2GB or RAM are people who do video editing.  I use 1GB and I think that's a good number.  I swear, EQ2 will blow donkey balls.

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  • IowaYetiIowaYeti Member Posts: 468
    Djin, come on bro, you are starting to "player hate" just like starman999 now. If you seriously hate EQ II and/or SOE, stay out of their threads, it only brings you down. I am not bashing, just giving a friendly remark, for I know you can grow above this. I may play one or both, but will never bash either, just avoid what I am NOT playing. R.E. the 2GB what are you referencing, nothing requires that in EQ II. As far as memory, 512MB is required and 1 GB is recommended. Maybe you mean the 2 Ghz Processor recommendations, but 2 Ghz is NOT very large in today's standards. I guarantee my "newly cloned" Pentium IV 3.4Ghz with many add ons is more than sufficient. As far as upgrading Memory or your Video Card first, both are highly important and neither cancels out the need of the other. image

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  • p00kap00ka Member Posts: 167


    Originally posted by Djin
    My $0.02.
    Couldn't SOE optomize their game.  I understand it's ment to be played for years to come on the newest hardware... but isn't 2GB asking a lot?  I understand the point of RAM, but come on.
    Really, the only people that use 2GB or RAM are people who do video editing.  I use 1GB and I think that's a good number.  I swear, EQ2 will blow donkey balls.


    As with every single game on the market, there are MINIMUM specs, and RECOMMENDED specs. If you only meet the minimal specs required to play the game, how can you expect blazing fast frame rates?

    Minimum Requirements = absolute rock bottom requirement for the game to run
    Recommended Specs = requirement for average quality game-play

    Anything over Recommended is gravy - but of course it won't run worth a damn on the minimum. Never have I seen SoE saying EQ2 will require 2 gigs. But don't be surprised when people suggest it for SOLID performance.

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  • p00kap00ka Member Posts: 167

    Bulldog, exactly how much do you have to spend?

    -pooka

  • IowaYetiIowaYeti Member Posts: 468
    exactly, I AM looking at the gamebox listed requirements and recommendations as I type this. 2GB is NOT listed, however, 2GB could only help, considering 1GB is the recommended Specs.

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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263

    Somewhere someone said 2GB RAM.

    I haven't looked at the system specs.  I also know what minimum and recommended system specs are, I'm not an idiot.

    I will bash whatever and whomever I want to.  That's me, that's who I am.  I'm not Joe Smow or Boby Q... I'm Djin... I am me.

    A lot of people can't handle what I say, so they bash me.  There's always going to be people like me out there...

    And I'm not going to stay out of a forum, if you fuc*ing read you'd understand I was TRYING to help this person... but he didn't even reply saying what type of computer he had.

    So, please... I'll do my thing, and you can do yours.

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  • IowaYetiIowaYeti Member Posts: 468
    helping is wonderful, but your continual SOE/EQ II negativity (in the EQ II threads as a matter of fact) is pointless, hence your lowering post count r.e the same. Also, to help someone with a questions specifically related to system requirements/recommendations, don't you think you should at least have accurate info? Don't try to hide "help" with "bashing". Djin, you are full of wonderful knowledge, you have shown this to me elsewhere, besides in Threads, but this is not the way to share it. If your goal is simpky to bash, then I apologize for reading you wrong, and will ignore your future posts. Bashing is a waste, and NOT helpful. Constructive Criticism is a different story, and I, personally,  look forward to it.

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  • IowaYetiIowaYeti Member Posts: 468



    Originally posted by Djin

     I swear, EQ2 will blow donkey balls.


     



       ...and where I ask you is this "helping him"? Come on...

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  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263

    Now I'm just pissed off.

    I quote myself;

    "We don't know because Bulldog isn't replying.

    When/if he replies, we hopefully will get a better understanding of his PC."

    If he ever replies with his system specs, we can help him...  doesn't matter if this is posted in SPAM, EQ2 or even EVE forum.  It would still get the same treatment it's getting now from me.

    I am me, like I've stated before.  I will say and do what I want.  Untill there's a gun pointed at my face, no one will tell me different.

    And no, I'm not that stupid to break the law or anything, but when it comes to speech, I will say whatever, whenever.  And a lot of people can't handle it.

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  • IowaYetiIowaYeti Member Posts: 468

    lol damn wrong thread post, sorry no delete feature.

     

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  • p00kap00ka Member Posts: 167


    Originally posted by Djin
    Somewhere someone said 2GB RAM.
    I haven't looked at the system specs.  I also know what minimum and recommended system specs are, I'm not an idiot.

    Easy there killer... Somehow this discussion got to the point where the specs got inflated. I am merely pointing out that you cannot have the minimum requirements and expect reasonably good performance. With 512 megs it will suck. But it will *play* nonetheless.


    I will bash whatever and whomever I want to.  That's me, that's who I am.  I'm not Joe Smow or Boby Q... I'm Djin... I am me.A lot of people can't handle what I say, so they bash me.  There's always going to be people like me out there...And I'm not going to stay out of a forum, if you fuc*ing read you'd understand I was TRYING to help this person... but he didn't even reply saying what type of computer he had.So, please... I'll do my thing, and you can do yours

    You did your thing. I did mine. I can handle what you have to say. You're the only one here getting all hot and bothered over nothing. Although, judging by the above mantra, you can bash others, but they can't correct your naive assessment of a game you probably won't even try.

    So forgive me for thinking you lack the maturity to know the difference between "required" and "recommended." That whole "donkey balls" comment might have had something to do with it.

    -pooka

  • IowaYetiIowaYeti Member Posts: 468
    lol weak, no one said silence yourself, I mearly was stating you have great tech knowledge, but hide behind the annoyed/bashing/wish EQ II wasn't competing with my WoW Game, childishness. Oh well, fare well Djin, I can only show you, not lead you. Also, if the US is so very bad, please, move elsewhere. I guarded this Country, with my life, so mature a bit eh?

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