The top three games I believe will be pretty big hits:
Aion---- I would say atleast 700k-1million players in North America
Jumpgate Evolution---- Maybe 500k in North America
SWTOR---- If it lives up to the hype, this one will get the closest to taking the throne away from WOW--- Maybe 6million worldwide.
Startrek Online---- Has an outside chance to make it big in the U.S.-- My guess would be over 1mil within the first 6 months and most likely will die down within a year to 500k.
Honorable Mention: Huxley---- I have no idea why but I just like the way this game is turning out.
Looking foward to all these games, I definately cannot way for SWTOR
first off you have to define what makes a game "the next great game." is it how much the money the company makes off the game, how many subscribers it has or whos making the game. everyone has their own a opinion when it comes to this topic. just because i think X game is going to be great doesnt necessarily mean its going to be great for the rest of the community. so with that being said, the next great game is the game that you love to play and keep coming back to time and time again to enjoy.
The top three games I believe will be pretty big hits: Aion---- I would say atleast 700k-1million players in North America Jumpgate Evolution---- Maybe 500k in North America SWTOR---- If it lives up to the hype, this one will get the closest to taking the throne away from WOW--- Maybe 6million worldwide. Startrek Online---- Has an outside chance to make it big in the U.S.-- My guess would be over 1mil within the first 6 months and most likely will die down within a year to 500k.
Honorable Mention: Huxley---- I have no idea why but I just like the way this game is turning out. Looking foward to all these games, I definately cannot way for SWTOR
I seriously doubt Aion or Jumpgate will touch the numbers you suggest. If AoC or WAR couldn't then those two won't.
I think SWTOR is the only clear favorite since it has one huge thing going for it. Bioware.
I think the STO will flop. Already too much drama about it going on.
Huxley had my attention when it was first announced but that was LONG LONG ago and usually games that have that long a delay just don't end up doing well.
The next great game will probably come from someplace you'd least expect or haven't heard of...
38 Studios... Write that one down... You'll be seeing alot of them soon...
2) its a step forward from the biggest milestone in MMO history (WoW).quite similar gameplay with a few fresh features and improved graphics, there is little room for originality,but aswell there is little room for disappointment.
He he you know you could say exactly the same thing word by word about Lotro.
which happens to be the second biggest MMO atm...
Aion is the already the second biggest MMO behind World Of Warcraft. Aion registered 1 Million subs in China afther its release. This is not even counting Korea which is over 1M and the future releases in Europe and USA. Lotro and Eve are not even close. They probaly have 500,000 subs combined.
I'm looking forward to Fallen Earth. I don't have much faith in SW:TOR, because in the end its still EA calling the shots. It would be a pleasant surprise if its not WoW-like.
I'm looking forward to Fallen Earth. I don't have much faith in SW:TOR, because in the end its still EA calling the shots. It would be a pleasant surprise if its not WoW-like.
One thing that everyone needs to realize is that being a little WoW like isn't such a bad thing. I quit WoW long ago, for several reasons... BUT. There is a reason it is the big dog. It is fun, accessible to people with not a lot of experience playing MMOs, and it gives a great sense of immersion. The next big game won't be WoW, but I can almost guarantee that for a game to even come close to the success of WoW it will have some similar traits.
Look at the games that tried to be more hard core. Yup, thats them all laying by the wayside as WoW rides off into the sunset...
Currently the MMO I look forward playing the most is Guild Wars 2. It won't be coming in 2009 or early 2010 though, might even come out only on 2011, but I don't care about the when.
As someone who cut my teeth on GW, I hope you are right. I do think that with them recently pushing the date back again though that it a really bad sign for GW2.
I played WoW for years and stopped playing due to Blizzard's piss poor customer service. They do have a great game but Blizzard is killing themselves. Won't take much to pull the rug out from under them. All MMORPGs are smiliar, WoW copied many aspects of games that came before it as others will as well. Guess in the end all games are Ultima On-line clones as it's the one that started it all.
Aion certainly has a great chance at pulling that rug. For one they already have a huge number of subscribers in Asia and many of those peeps were WoW players. It's already pulling WoW's subscriber base and it hasn't even hit the US yet (Even though the US base is a smaller subscriber base then China).
Aion does rock and WoW people will feel right at home playing it. Definately a major step forward as far as MMORPGs go. I believe it is due out in Sept 2009 timeframe in the US. Can't wait to play it in the US. Playing it on China's servers does see some lag.
Star Wars also has a great chance of pulling that rug. Having the name and movie base and finances behind it I am sure it will equal Lord of the rings on-line at least. Star wars people don't do anything half ass. I suspect that game will also rock.
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I believe the definition of "the next great game" is entirley based on ones own personal opinion. Im content with games that are already out. By great do you mean the one that gets the most attention and subs? Cause wow has alot of Subs but by no means, at least in my opinion, is the greatest game out right now. But i am excited about GW2. I played Guild wars when it was just guild wars, not Prophecies. I didnt enjoy it at first glance but slowley develoved a liking to it. The story was great and i just couldnt stop playing from mission to mission. All that needs improvment is the pvp. I agree that if an RvR system is imposed like DAOC's or even WAR, then GW2 would be, in my own opinion, the next great game. But everyone has their own taste and there will never be a game thats better than another.
I believe GW2 will have World PvP (if you trust the wiki) which can be understood for RvR. I only hope it will not break the small scale PvP because, in GW, it was(/is) by far the best in this genre. Large scale might be more casual but I prefer the small scale matches with the ladder and tournaments.
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If GW2 is going to keep the same pricing model then it stands a fair shot. Depends if they decide to "WOW-ify" it a bit or keep it's feel and play how it is with a bit of tweaking and new engine. (WOW-ifying would be a mistake IMHO). My money would be on SW:TOR, just because I have great faith in Bioware. STO will be initially popular (especially wth the reboot of the films to keep the general Star Trek hype level up), but their going to struggle to keep the both hardcore IP fans and the MMO crowd happy.
Aion will be a solid performer, but having not really followed it that statement's purely based on the interest on the boards here.
Does seem to be room for a Horror/Vampire/Lovecraft-esq MMO. You'd think someone would have pounced on the Bloodlines IP by now (I Still play Masquerade now and again, just for the atmosphere).
Hard to really say if GW2 will be a big hit since it won't be out till some time in 2010. So far i see SW:TOR and Aion being the next great games for 2009 and 2010. One being BioWare's induction into mmo's with a promising IP and second being the reformed NCSoft's newest aaa title already breaking records and being almost bug free.
about SW:TOR i wouldnt hold my breath for it. if WAR teached us something, is that a good IP by itself isnt enough. coupled with a newcomer to the MMO genre (unlike Mythic), the chances of a flop skyrocket.
Aion will be the next big thing due to 2 reasons:
1) it is already out in asia (where it is a major hit), and will reach the western shores with an almost perfect release...this will be the first title in years that goes live in the western market in a decent shape, nearly all other titles were rushed and halfbaked to say the least
2) its a step forward from the biggest milestone in MMO history (WoW).quite similar gameplay with a few fresh features and improved graphics, there is little room for originality,but aswell there is little room for disappointment.
One thing the majority of MMO players don't want is WoW like or a wow clone. I think Mythic learned that lesson the hard way with WAR.
WoW similar to War? why? because have similar gfx?
You can like or dislike them but these games have almost nothing similar.
loads of games im looking forward to i actually hope some of them do turn out to be rubbish otherwise i just wont have enough hours in the day to play them all....in no particular order
im way more sceptical ...theres nothing new comin up , nothing fresh there isnt one single title that takes the one step forward for the so called and much needed 'next generation MMO'.
Maybe devs should think a bit outside of the box like that theres more than elves ,warriors ,spaceships and adaptions of known Movies. A fresh breeze is needed badly imo ...too many steaming piles
Maybe Star wars thingy could turn out to be good ...but that all hope i got atm
if u ask me, i think MMOFPSRPG (or TPS, or both) is the forementioned "next generation"...massive multiplayer FPS/TPS with heavy rpg aspects,obviously not bound to instanced "rooms", and total control over environment (vehicles buildings)
in that category you can find Fallen Earth and Global Agenda
Hard to really say if GW2 will be a big hit since it won't be out till some time in 2010. So far i see SW:TOR and Aion being the next great games for 2009 and 2010. One being BioWare's induction into mmo's with a promising IP and second being the reformed NCSoft's newest aaa title already breaking records and being almost bug free.
about SW:TOR i wouldnt hold my breath for it. if WAR teached us something, is that a good IP by itself isnt enough. coupled with a newcomer to the MMO genre (unlike Mythic), the chances of a flop skyrocket.
Aion will be the next big thing due to 2 reasons:
1) it is already out in asia (where it is a major hit), and will reach the western shores with an almost perfect release...this will be the first title in years that goes live in the western market in a decent shape, nearly all other titles were rushed and halfbaked to say the least
2) its a step forward from the biggest milestone in MMO history (WoW).quite similar gameplay with a few fresh features and improved graphics, there is little room for originality,but aswell there is little room for disappointment.
One thing the majority of MMO players don't want is WoW like or a wow clone. I think Mythic learned that lesson the hard way with WAR.
WoW similar to War? why? because have similar gfx?
You can like or dislike them but these games have almost nothing similar.
My comparision is in the non challenging simple mode anybody can jump right in and play layout. Even Mark Jacobs spoke of game design similar to WoW to potentially put in some of the WOW playerbase. I for one like many am tired of being handfed everything in an MMO. They all do it WOW, LOTRO, etc, etc. Let me walk you to your quest location/NPC please! Now please go kill 20 bears 60 times and return. Ok now that that isdone spend 3 hours riding a horse around pointlessly taking messages from one NPC to the next.
It's all a matter of opinion. Some people are dying to play Aion and think it looks awesome, I think it looks like another crappy Asian grinder with wings. Neither is right, we just prefer different things.
Hard to really say if GW2 will be a big hit since it won't be out till some time in 2010. So far i see SW:TOR and Aion being the next great games for 2009 and 2010. One being BioWare's induction into mmo's with a promising IP and second being the reformed NCSoft's newest aaa title already breaking records and being almost bug free.
about SW:TOR i wouldnt hold my breath for it. if WAR teached us something, is that a good IP by itself isnt enough. coupled with a newcomer to the MMO genre (unlike Mythic), the chances of a flop skyrocket.
Aion will be the next big thing due to 2 reasons:
1) it is already out in asia (where it is a major hit), and will reach the western shores with an almost perfect release...this will be the first title in years that goes live in the western market in a decent shape, nearly all other titles were rushed and halfbaked to say the least
2) its a step forward from the biggest milestone in MMO history (WoW).quite similar gameplay with a few fresh features and improved graphics, there is little room for originality,but aswell there is little room for disappointment.
One thing the majority of MMO players don't want is WoW like or a wow clone. I think Mythic learned that lesson the hard way with WAR.
WoW similar to War? why? because have similar gfx?
You can like or dislike them but these games have almost nothing similar.
My comparision is in the non challenging simple mode anybody can jump right in and play layout. Even Mark Jacobs spoke of game design similar to WoW to potentially put in some of the WOW playerbase. I for one like many am tired of being handfed everything in an MMO. They all do it WOW, LOTRO, etc, etc. Let me walk you to your quest location/NPC please! Now please go kill 20 bears 60 times and return. Ok now that that isdone spend 3 hours riding a horse around pointlessly taking messages from one NPC to the next.
Tired of being handed everything? Yeah I feel that too sometimes. BUT. If you think for one minute that the "Next Big Thing" is going to be a hardcore/not noob friendly game you are just wrong. Part of the reason WoW has as many subs as it does is because it is easy to play. No game will touch its subs without being easy to play and having an appeal to "non-traditional" gamers. It just won't happen. The next GREAT game to us gamers may not be hugely successful overall. Think about it. If AoC or WAR had been everything they were hyped to be and there were NO complaints by players what would their subs be now? 1.5 mil? 2 mil?
Originally posted by CoffeeGrunt im way more sceptical ...theres nothing new comin up , nothing fresh there isnt one single title that takes the one step forward for the so called and much needed 'next generation MMO'. Maybe devs should think a bit outside of the box like that theres more than elves ,warriors ,spaceships and adaptions of known Movies. A fresh breeze is needed badly imo ...too many steaming piles
Maybe Star wars thingy could turn out to be good ...but that all hope i got atm
i got to agree. im pretty sure all the games coming out are:
-sub par games looking to make a buck off their IP (all the stars, wars/gate/trek)
-duplicates of what we already have with 1 'feature' like limited flying thrown in like aion. which btw saw its numbers seriously dwindle in asia once they started charging..though it still has a good crowd but hey, so does the original lineage..
-smaller companies trying to make a splash, but one small problem, their games aren't very good (fallen earth)
Originally posted by lornj first off you have to define what makes a game "the next great game." is it how much the money the company makes off the game, how many subscribers it has or whos making the game. everyone has their own a opinion when it comes to this topic. just because i think X game is going to be great doesnt necessarily mean its going to be great for the rest of the community. so with that being said, the next great game is the game that you love to play and keep coming back to time and time again to enjoy.
Hey Mr Obvious, what a boring answer.
Ofcourse this comes down to opinions. Have you forgot WE ARE ON A FORUM?
Originally posted by NegativeJoe Originally posted by CoffeeGrunt im way more sceptical ...theres nothing new comin up , nothing fresh there isnt one single title that takes the one step forward for the so called and much needed 'next generation MMO'. Maybe devs should think a bit outside of the box like that theres more than elves ,warriors ,spaceships and adaptions of known Movies. A fresh breeze is needed badly imo ...too many steaming piles
Maybe Star wars thingy could turn out to be good ...but that all hope i got atm
i got to agree. im pretty sure all the games coming out are:
-sub par games looking to make a buck off their IP (all the stars, wars/gate/trek)
-duplicates of what we already have with 1 'feature' like limited flying thrown in like aion. which btw saw its numbers seriously dwindle in asia once they started charging..though it still has a good crowd but hey, so does the original lineage..
-smaller companies trying to make a splash, but one small problem, their games aren't very good (fallen earth)
Originally posted by logangregor Originally posted by NegativeJoe Originally posted by CoffeeGrunt im way more sceptical ...theres nothing new comin up , nothing fresh there isnt one single title that takes the one step forward for the so called and much needed 'next generation MMO'. Maybe devs should think a bit outside of the box like that theres more than elves ,warriors ,spaceships and adaptions of known Movies. A fresh breeze is needed badly imo ...too many steaming piles
Maybe Star wars thingy could turn out to be good ...but that all hope i got atm
i got to agree. im pretty sure all the games coming out are:
-sub par games looking to make a buck off their IP (all the stars, wars/gate/trek)
-duplicates of what we already have with 1 'feature' like limited flying thrown in like aion. which btw saw its numbers seriously dwindle in asia once they started charging..though it still has a good crowd but hey, so does the original lineage..
-smaller companies trying to make a splash, but one small problem, their games aren't very good (fallen earth)
-not mmorpgs! (gw2, global agenda)
Negative Joe? not angryjoe? hehe
fyi GW2=guildwars 2 will be a mmo.
thanks for the info, have not been following it since wasn't a fan of the first.
i just figured since the first GW wasn't reall an mmorpg that the second one wouldn't be..if it really is maybe ill have to check it out.
I fail to see how Mythic's prior experience making boring MMOs put WAR in a better position than Bioware's prior experience making the best RPGs in the last decade plus will put SWTOR.
That said, I doubt TOR will be next, because Bioware will take as much time as is needed to deliver a quality product, unlike most MMO developers. What it will be is the first truly story based, character driven, actual RPG to enter the online marketplace. So judged from the perspective of someone who values story and player choice, TOR won't be the next great online game, it will be the *first* great online game. Of course, if story and player choice aren't your thing, you will probably dislike it and prefer WoW style spoon feeding.
As far as measuring greatness by financial success, I seriously doubt TOR will ever have more than half the numbers of WoW, and that is an incredibly optimistic estimate. Many WoW players can barely read, let alone follow a story or make decisions, the mass markets are generally left for the morons.
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The top three games I believe will be pretty big hits:
Aion---- I would say atleast 700k-1million players in North America
Jumpgate Evolution---- Maybe 500k in North America
SWTOR---- If it lives up to the hype, this one will get the closest to taking the throne away from WOW--- Maybe 6million worldwide.
Startrek Online---- Has an outside chance to make it big in the U.S.-- My guess would be over 1mil within the first 6 months and most likely will die down within a year to 500k.
Honorable Mention: Huxley---- I have no idea why but I just like the way this game is turning out.
Looking foward to all these games, I definately cannot way for SWTOR
first off you have to define what makes a game "the next great game." is it how much the money the company makes off the game, how many subscribers it has or whos making the game. everyone has their own a opinion when it comes to this topic. just because i think X game is going to be great doesnt necessarily mean its going to be great for the rest of the community. so with that being said, the next great game is the game that you love to play and keep coming back to time and time again to enjoy.
I seriously doubt Aion or Jumpgate will touch the numbers you suggest. If AoC or WAR couldn't then those two won't.
I think SWTOR is the only clear favorite since it has one huge thing going for it. Bioware.
I think the STO will flop. Already too much drama about it going on.
Huxley had my attention when it was first announced but that was LONG LONG ago and usually games that have that long a delay just don't end up doing well.
The next great game will probably come from someplace you'd least expect or haven't heard of...
38 Studios... Write that one down... You'll be seeing alot of them soon...
He he you know you could say exactly the same thing word by word about Lotro.
which happens to be the second biggest MMO atm...
Aion is the already the second biggest MMO behind World Of Warcraft. Aion registered 1 Million subs in China afther its release. This is not even counting Korea which is over 1M and the future releases in Europe and USA. Lotro and Eve are not even close. They probaly have 500,000 subs combined.
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I'm looking forward to Fallen Earth. I don't have much faith in SW:TOR, because in the end its still EA calling the shots. It would be a pleasant surprise if its not WoW-like.
One thing that everyone needs to realize is that being a little WoW like isn't such a bad thing. I quit WoW long ago, for several reasons... BUT. There is a reason it is the big dog. It is fun, accessible to people with not a lot of experience playing MMOs, and it gives a great sense of immersion. The next big game won't be WoW, but I can almost guarantee that for a game to even come close to the success of WoW it will have some similar traits.
Look at the games that tried to be more hard core. Yup, thats them all laying by the wayside as WoW rides off into the sunset...
Currently the MMO I look forward playing the most is Guild Wars 2.
It won't be coming in 2009 or early 2010 though, might even come out only on 2011, but I don't care about the when.
As someone who cut my teeth on GW, I hope you are right. I do think that with them recently pushing the date back again though that it a really bad sign for GW2.
I played WoW for years and stopped playing due to Blizzard's piss poor customer service. They do have a great game but Blizzard is killing themselves. Won't take much to pull the rug out from under them. All MMORPGs are smiliar, WoW copied many aspects of games that came before it as others will as well. Guess in the end all games are Ultima On-line clones as it's the one that started it all.
Aion certainly has a great chance at pulling that rug. For one they already have a huge number of subscribers in Asia and many of those peeps were WoW players. It's already pulling WoW's subscriber base and it hasn't even hit the US yet (Even though the US base is a smaller subscriber base then China).
Aion does rock and WoW people will feel right at home playing it. Definately a major step forward as far as MMORPGs go. I believe it is due out in Sept 2009 timeframe in the US. Can't wait to play it in the US. Playing it on China's servers does see some lag.
Star Wars also has a great chance of pulling that rug. Having the name and movie base and finances behind it I am sure it will equal Lord of the rings on-line at least. Star wars people don't do anything half ass. I suspect that game will also rock.
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I believe the definition of "the next great game" is entirley based on ones own personal opinion. Im content with games that are already out. By great do you mean the one that gets the most attention and subs? Cause wow has alot of Subs but by no means, at least in my opinion, is the greatest game out right now. But i am excited about GW2. I played Guild wars when it was just guild wars, not Prophecies. I didnt enjoy it at first glance but slowley develoved a liking to it. The story was great and i just couldnt stop playing from mission to mission. All that needs improvment is the pvp. I agree that if an RvR system is imposed like DAOC's or even WAR, then GW2 would be, in my own opinion, the next great game. But everyone has their own taste and there will never be a game thats better than another.
I believe GW2 will have World PvP (if you trust the wiki) which can be understood for RvR. I only hope it will not break the small scale PvP because, in GW, it was(/is) by far the best in this genre. Large scale might be more casual but I prefer the small scale matches with the ladder and tournaments.
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If GW2 is going to keep the same pricing model then it stands a fair shot. Depends if they decide to "WOW-ify" it a bit or keep it's feel and play how it is with a bit of tweaking and new engine. (WOW-ifying would be a mistake IMHO). My money would be on SW:TOR, just because I have great faith in Bioware. STO will be initially popular (especially wth the reboot of the films to keep the general Star Trek hype level up), but their going to struggle to keep the both hardcore IP fans and the MMO crowd happy.
Aion will be a solid performer, but having not really followed it that statement's purely based on the interest on the boards here.
Does seem to be room for a Horror/Vampire/Lovecraft-esq MMO. You'd think someone would have pounced on the Bloodlines IP by now (I Still play Masquerade now and again, just for the atmosphere).
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about SW:TOR i wouldnt hold my breath for it. if WAR teached us something, is that a good IP by itself isnt enough. coupled with a newcomer to the MMO genre (unlike Mythic), the chances of a flop skyrocket.
Aion will be the next big thing due to 2 reasons:
1) it is already out in asia (where it is a major hit), and will reach the western shores with an almost perfect release...this will be the first title in years that goes live in the western market in a decent shape, nearly all other titles were rushed and halfbaked to say the least
2) its a step forward from the biggest milestone in MMO history (WoW).quite similar gameplay with a few fresh features and improved graphics, there is little room for originality,but aswell there is little room for disappointment.
One thing the majority of MMO players don't want is WoW like or a wow clone. I think Mythic learned that lesson the hard way with WAR.
WoW similar to War? why? because have similar gfx?
You can like or dislike them but these games have almost nothing similar.
loads of games im looking forward to i actually hope some of them do turn out to be rubbish otherwise i just wont have enough hours in the day to play them all....in no particular order
aion
stargate worlds
fallen earth
the secret world
jumpgate evo
mortal online
star trek online
star wars tor
im way more sceptical ...theres nothing new comin up , nothing fresh there isnt one single title that takes the one step forward for the so called and much needed 'next generation MMO'.
Maybe devs should think a bit outside of the box like that theres more than elves ,warriors ,spaceships and adaptions of known Movies. A fresh breeze is needed badly imo ...too many steaming piles
Maybe Star wars thingy could turn out to be good ...but that all hope i got atm
if u ask me, i think MMOFPSRPG (or TPS, or both) is the forementioned "next generation"...massive multiplayer FPS/TPS with heavy rpg aspects,obviously not bound to instanced "rooms", and total control over environment (vehicles buildings)
in that category you can find Fallen Earth and Global Agenda
The next great game will be...... the game that is the most fun to those who play it.
about SW:TOR i wouldnt hold my breath for it. if WAR teached us something, is that a good IP by itself isnt enough. coupled with a newcomer to the MMO genre (unlike Mythic), the chances of a flop skyrocket.
Aion will be the next big thing due to 2 reasons:
1) it is already out in asia (where it is a major hit), and will reach the western shores with an almost perfect release...this will be the first title in years that goes live in the western market in a decent shape, nearly all other titles were rushed and halfbaked to say the least
2) its a step forward from the biggest milestone in MMO history (WoW).quite similar gameplay with a few fresh features and improved graphics, there is little room for originality,but aswell there is little room for disappointment.
One thing the majority of MMO players don't want is WoW like or a wow clone. I think Mythic learned that lesson the hard way with WAR.
WoW similar to War? why? because have similar gfx?
You can like or dislike them but these games have almost nothing similar.
My comparision is in the non challenging simple mode anybody can jump right in and play layout. Even Mark Jacobs spoke of game design similar to WoW to potentially put in some of the WOW playerbase. I for one like many am tired of being handfed everything in an MMO. They all do it WOW, LOTRO, etc, etc. Let me walk you to your quest location/NPC please! Now please go kill 20 bears 60 times and return. Ok now that that isdone spend 3 hours riding a horse around pointlessly taking messages from one NPC to the next.
It's all a matter of opinion. Some people are dying to play Aion and think it looks awesome, I think it looks like another crappy Asian grinder with wings. Neither is right, we just prefer different things.
The next game that looks really good is KOTOR.
about SW:TOR i wouldnt hold my breath for it. if WAR teached us something, is that a good IP by itself isnt enough. coupled with a newcomer to the MMO genre (unlike Mythic), the chances of a flop skyrocket.
Aion will be the next big thing due to 2 reasons:
1) it is already out in asia (where it is a major hit), and will reach the western shores with an almost perfect release...this will be the first title in years that goes live in the western market in a decent shape, nearly all other titles were rushed and halfbaked to say the least
2) its a step forward from the biggest milestone in MMO history (WoW).quite similar gameplay with a few fresh features and improved graphics, there is little room for originality,but aswell there is little room for disappointment.
One thing the majority of MMO players don't want is WoW like or a wow clone. I think Mythic learned that lesson the hard way with WAR.
WoW similar to War? why? because have similar gfx?
You can like or dislike them but these games have almost nothing similar.
My comparision is in the non challenging simple mode anybody can jump right in and play layout. Even Mark Jacobs spoke of game design similar to WoW to potentially put in some of the WOW playerbase. I for one like many am tired of being handfed everything in an MMO. They all do it WOW, LOTRO, etc, etc. Let me walk you to your quest location/NPC please! Now please go kill 20 bears 60 times and return. Ok now that that isdone spend 3 hours riding a horse around pointlessly taking messages from one NPC to the next.
Tired of being handed everything? Yeah I feel that too sometimes. BUT. If you think for one minute that the "Next Big Thing" is going to be a hardcore/not noob friendly game you are just wrong. Part of the reason WoW has as many subs as it does is because it is easy to play. No game will touch its subs without being easy to play and having an appeal to "non-traditional" gamers. It just won't happen. The next GREAT game to us gamers may not be hugely successful overall. Think about it. If AoC or WAR had been everything they were hyped to be and there were NO complaints by players what would their subs be now? 1.5 mil? 2 mil?
i got to agree. im pretty sure all the games coming out are:
-sub par games looking to make a buck off their IP (all the stars, wars/gate/trek)
-duplicates of what we already have with 1 'feature' like limited flying thrown in like aion. which btw saw its numbers seriously dwindle in asia once they started
charging..though it still has a good crowd but hey, so does the original lineage..
-smaller companies trying to make a splash, but one small problem, their games aren't very good (fallen earth)
-not mmorpgs! (gw2, global agenda)
Hey Mr Obvious, what a boring answer.
Ofcourse this comes down to opinions. Have you forgot WE ARE ON A FORUM?
i got to agree. im pretty sure all the games coming out are:
-sub par games looking to make a buck off their IP (all the stars, wars/gate/trek)
-duplicates of what we already have with 1 'feature' like limited flying thrown in like aion. which btw saw its numbers seriously dwindle in asia once they started
charging..though it still has a good crowd but hey, so does the original lineage..
-smaller companies trying to make a splash, but one small problem, their games aren't very good (fallen earth)
-not mmorpgs! (gw2, global agenda)
Negative Joe? not angryjoe? hehe
fyi GW2=guildwars 2 will be a mmo.
i got to agree. im pretty sure all the games coming out are:
-sub par games looking to make a buck off their IP (all the stars, wars/gate/trek)
-duplicates of what we already have with 1 'feature' like limited flying thrown in like aion. which btw saw its numbers seriously dwindle in asia once they started
charging..though it still has a good crowd but hey, so does the original lineage..
-smaller companies trying to make a splash, but one small problem, their games aren't very good (fallen earth)
-not mmorpgs! (gw2, global agenda)
Negative Joe? not angryjoe? hehe
fyi GW2=guildwars 2 will be a mmo.
thanks for the info, have not been following it since wasn't a fan of the first.
i just figured since the first GW wasn't reall an mmorpg that the second one wouldn't be..if it really is maybe ill have to check it out.
I fail to see how Mythic's prior experience making boring MMOs put WAR in a better position than Bioware's prior experience making the best RPGs in the last decade plus will put SWTOR.
That said, I doubt TOR will be next, because Bioware will take as much time as is needed to deliver a quality product, unlike most MMO developers. What it will be is the first truly story based, character driven, actual RPG to enter the online marketplace. So judged from the perspective of someone who values story and player choice, TOR won't be the next great online game, it will be the *first* great online game. Of course, if story and player choice aren't your thing, you will probably dislike it and prefer WoW style spoon feeding.
As far as measuring greatness by financial success, I seriously doubt TOR will ever have more than half the numbers of WoW, and that is an incredibly optimistic estimate. Many WoW players can barely read, let alone follow a story or make decisions, the mass markets are generally left for the morons.
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