People are playing the game and having good time and DF seems to be making the ends meet (aka paying the bills, not buying golden mercedes) so its not failing.
You really don't know if the bills are being paid.
Right now no one realy knows the state of the game, except that the players are having fun for the most part.
Im having the time of my life in DF right now Some people just want to see games fail, its amazing. If the person on eurogamer who reviewed DF was a UO vet he would of given DF a 8/10 +
I don't think most here wants the game to fail well at least not until this latest fiasco. What we want is for the lying from Tasos to stop. The game features to be implemented and the sales open to be able to buy the game.
As for the UO vets, I have seen quite a few of them here and I doubt they would give the game an 8/10.
Im having the time of my life in DF right now Some people just want to see games fail, its amazing. If the person on eurogamer who reviewed DF was a UO vet he would of given DF a 8/10 +
I don't think most here wants the game to fail well at least not until this latest fiasco. What we want is for the lying from Tasos to stop. The game features to be implemented and the sales open to be able to buy the game.
As for the UO vets, I have seen quite a few of them here and I doubt they would give the game an 8/10.
What features havent been implemented? All im aware of is the wolf mount. And if the servers can only hold so many then the shop shouldnt be perma open cause it would flood the game.
DFO has 'failed' yes if you put it it terms of every other MMO out there: Yes, it's not a mass market cashcow that everyone's grandmother can play...
In that respect, EVE has 'failed' too..
Sorry but a lot of people these days need to pull their head out of the sand annd realise not every MMO out there will have the funding of publishers to milk off and those devs will do their best to keep whatever playerbase they gain IN the game, not just expect them to leave a few months later until the next gimmick content is released and cut their losses and just milk the new comers.
DFO caters for those players who like that kind of sandbox, it's a very minior group these days, and I'm not expecting MO to be any different
Im having the time of my life in DF right now Some people just want to see games fail, its amazing. If the person on eurogamer who reviewed DF was a UO vet he would of given DF a 8/10 +
A owner of a Game who lies to its Fan base and those who support the Liar of the said game.Make both of there creditials unreliable..And yes the game should be put out of its Misery!
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
DFO has 'failed' yes if you put it it terms of every other MMO out there: Yes, it's not a mass market cashcow that everyone's grandmother can play... In that respect, EVE has 'failed' too.. Sorry but a lot of people these days need to pull their head out of the sand annd realise not every MMO out there will have the funding of publishers to milk off and those devs will do their best to keep whatever playerbase they gain IN the game, not just expect them to leave a few months later until the next gimmick content is released and cut their losses and just milk the new comers. DFO caters for those players who like that kind of sandbox, it's a very minior group these days, and I'm not expecting MO to be any different
Eve has 300k + subs in what way do you think you can ever relate the two games? Eves devs succeeded in making a high quality game, Aventurin didn't even come close. All they did was give a rule set that some people like and a shitty world to act it out in.
No it's very busy. I would guess approx 30,000 people on the server with at least 10,000 playing at a time. So about twice the wow server.
1/3rd of the games population on at a time. yeah... right. but you're doing a great job at pulling numbers out of no where and passing them as fact.
50 copies in 10 days. thats lower sales than... well... honestly thats lower sales than most everything. worldwide, 5 copies per day, its such an incredibly small number compared to any MMO that has been out for a similar amount of time.
whats that? I can't compare it to games like AION that have sold 1million copies in china alone? ok how about EVE? its been out for 6 years and its population has increased by about 50k in 1 year. that is a net increase, so they've sold more than 50k copies to cover the loss of some players leaving.
50 copies in 10 days, 50,000 copies in 1 year. can we tell which is the success and which is the flop?
I pulled numbers out of my ass, yes. Just like you guys.
store sold 50 copies last time it was open, that was 10-11 days ago. AION reported 1million china accts (thats what, 1-2 months?). EVE reported 300k accts (up from 250k last year). my numbers came from real places.
Oh? So your an investor in these? No? Please explain to me how these other poor games with higher sales affect my gameplay in a full server? Oh, that's right. You can't. Nice try though. Give you an A for effort.
Classic DF fan tactic...
When presented with facts you can't refute... change the argument!
Let's step through this starting with your first post quoted here, shall we Ruyn?
Ruyn Quote #1:
"I would guess approx 30,000 people on the server with at least 10,000 playing at a time. So about twice the wow server."
Majinash's Response:
Majinash challenges your claim, calling BS, and providing actual real numbers representing DF's 50 sales in the last 10-11 days, compared to other MMOs selling in the 10s of thousands. Read his first full quote for the details.
Ruyn Quote #2:
"I pulled numbers out of my ass, yes. Just like you guys. "
Actually... no he didn't... However, you did.
Majinash's Response #2:
"store sold 50 copies last time it was open, that was 10-11 days ago. AION reported 1million china accts (thats what, 1-2 months?). EVE reported 300k accts (up from 250k last year). my numbers came from real places."
Once again, he points out these numbers which are derived from real sources, unlike yours which you have now admitted were pulled out of your ass.
Ruyn Quote #3 (aka: The Strawman Maneuver, or "Topic Hopping")
"Oh? So your an investor in these? No? Please explain to me how these other poor games with higher sales affect my gameplay in a full server? Oh, that's right. You can't. Nice try though. Give you an A for effort."
Complete and utter BS response. You made a BS claim. You were called out on it and proven wrong. So instead of just sucking it up and dealing with it... you change the topic from "how many people" to "how does that affect me?", which is a complete cop-out and has nothing to do with the subject *you* opened with your "approx 30,000 people" statement.
Your posts, Ruyn, are a classic example of some DF fans' failure to make a valid point, and move on when proven wrong.
If you have nothing to back up a statement... then don't make it in the first place. And if you do anyway and are called out on it... don't take the BS way out by putting up strawman arguments and changing the topic. It's a very obvious and very lame response.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Im having the time of my life in DF right now Some people just want to see games fail, its amazing. If the person on eurogamer who reviewed DF was a UO vet he would of given DF a 8/10 +
I don't think most here wants the game to fail well at least not until this latest fiasco. What we want is for the lying from Tasos to stop. The game features to be implemented and the sales open to be able to buy the game.
As for the UO vets, I have seen quite a few of them here and I doubt they would give the game an 8/10.
What features havent been implemented? All im aware of is the wolf mount. And if the servers can only hold so many then the shop shouldnt be perma open cause it would flood the game.
Is the secure trade system where you can trade in and out of the game there yet?
Is the crafting inventing system in yet, where you can design and create anything?
are the safeguards in place to protect you from cheaters and exploits?
Is the weather in that can affect the players?
Is the player housing in? I'm not talking abut the cities or hamlets.
Just to name a few.
All you have so far is ffa pvp, for loot that is easily replaced.
basic crafting following scripted recipes, so you cannot create new items.
city sieges, for what? Not for resources since they are the same every where.
and a limited skill system, which means you can't be what you want, no skills to really define your character and be unique.
Plus it is only one server that they claim is scalable, meaning it should be able to grow with the population. Which as we know it can't.
There are opinions, and there are facts. If somebody say that DF is boring, well, it's his opinion. If somebody say that it needs 10 sec to change weapons(as Ed Zitron said, for example), it isn't an opinion, it's a lie.
Have tried some MMORPGs since UO. EQ, WoW, LOTRO Beta, WAR... and haven't found any satisfaccion in them. Can't say that about Darkfall, I'm having a lot of fun!
Yeah, it's a paid beta.
Yeah, there isn't a lot of promised things.
But, for me, this game is the best MMORPG since UO.
Crap or not I'm interested to try this game out. The one things people fail to realize is good or bad publicity is publicity. It creates more chatter about a game, and if the game is better then what Eurogamer reviewed people will look poorly upon Eurogamer, and if the game is as bad as they say it is . . . many people waisted many years developing digital garbage.
"Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's azz by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?" - Tommy Boy
Ppl get caught up in numbers, some MMO's are surviving on a tiny amount of subs, such as Neocron 2 for example which has less than 10k subs.
Ofc with so few subs the process of updating your gaming experience is serverly hindered becuase your going to lack the man power to bring new content to the players, your going to be left with a stale game eventually.
Will that happen to DFO, who knows, perhaps the team that operates it have factored that in and will be happy to remain a tiny operation, perhaps they are using DFO as a means to gain enough experience to go further with a new project in the future, or DFO might suddenly go F2P and have an item mall (That will be interesting on a full PvP server).
I really wouldn't want DFO to fail, even if I won't be playing it due to what I believe to be some pretty god awful management of an MMO, if EVE can have so many users on at any given time with their tech you would have thought that a game in development for such a long time would have been able to come up with something similar, I certainly haven't seen any constraints on new players not being able to join the single EVE server, and they even have trial accounts to boot.
There are opinions, and there are facts. If somebody say that DF is boring, well, it's his opinion. If somebody say that it needs 10 sec to change weapons(as Ed Zitron said, for example), it isn't an opinion, it's a lie.
Have tried some MMORPGs since UO. EQ, WoW, LOTRO Beta, WAR... and haven't found any satisfaccion in them. Can't say that about Darkfall, I'm having a lot of fun! Yeah, it's a paid beta. Yeah, there isn't a lot of promised things. But, for me, this game is the best MMORPG since UO.
With what is in red now. Is it a lie or an exaggeration?
See depending on your point of view it could be either. Does it take a couple of seconds to switch weapons? As far as I have read yes it does, does it take 10 seconds? no, but it might feel that way to some.
The thing is that you are having fun, in the long run isn't that the only thing that matters?
Ppl get caught up in numbers, some MMO's are surviving on a tiny amount of subs, such as Neocron 2 for example which has less than 10k subs. Ofc with so few subs the process of updating your gaming experience is serverly hindered becuase your going to lack the man power to bring new content to the players, your going to be left with a stale game eventually. Will that happen to DFO, who knows, perhaps the team that operates it have factored that in and will be happy to remain a tiny operation, perhaps they are using DFO as a means to gain enough experience to go further with a new project in the future, or DFO might suddenly go F2P and have an item mall (That will be interesting on a full PvP server). I really wouldn't want DFO to fail, even if I won't be playing it due to what I believe to be some pretty god awful management of an MMO, if EVE can have so many users on at any given time with their tech you would have thought that a game in development for such a long time would have been able to come up with something similar, I certainly haven't seen any constraints on new players not being able to join the single EVE server, and they even have trial accounts to boot.
I agree with what you say.
I went back in the forums here to when EVE first came out, and there is no talk there like there is for this game. They seem to have started with a small player base and grew over years. How ever there was no discussion on not being able to buy the game.
EVE also had free trials right after release and never had limited times to buy the game. That was 6 years ago. I would think that at this time Darkfall would be able to do the same thing.
If you like FPS with city fights in a medieval settings, and keep in mind it was made by a indie company. So its unpolished fully but patching weekly, keep a open mind.
Some people do not like it or flame it, most arent in game yet. Only has 1 server because in fact we are in a paid beta, and they told us that basically. They needed money so they launched.
If it doesnt change in 2-3 months(they patch every week with big and lots of fixes/content) then I will leave to a different game. But another 2-3 months we will see where this game is going to end up. Whether it be a darkandlight or a EVE Online only time can tell, or maybe just maybe a UO.
how DARE you compare this trash to UO. Darkfall will NEVER be anywhere close to how awesome UO is/was.
Ppl get caught up in numbers, some MMO's are surviving on a tiny amount of subs, such as Neocron 2 for example which has less than 10k subs. Ofc with so few subs the process of updating your gaming experience is serverly hindered becuase your going to lack the man power to bring new content to the players, your going to be left with a stale game eventually. Will that happen to DFO, who knows, perhaps the team that operates it have factored that in and will be happy to remain a tiny operation, perhaps they are using DFO as a means to gain enough experience to go further with a new project in the future, or DFO might suddenly go F2P and have an item mall (That will be interesting on a full PvP server). I really wouldn't want DFO to fail, even if I won't be playing it due to what I believe to be some pretty god awful management of an MMO, if EVE can have so many users on at any given time with their tech you would have thought that a game in development for such a long time would have been able to come up with something similar, I certainly haven't seen any constraints on new players not being able to join the single EVE server, and they even have trial accounts to boot.
Honestly, this company will more than likely not try to make another game. Their "next" project would be considered vaporware just like DF and they will be the laughing stock..even more so than they already are.
I'd love to see Aventurine disband and try to get hired by other MMO companies, that'd be hilarious.
No it's very busy. I would guess approx 30,000 people on the server with at least 10,000 playing at a time. So about twice the wow server.
1/3rd of the games population on at a time. yeah... right. but you're doing a great job at pulling numbers out of no where and passing them as fact.
50 copies in 10 days. thats lower sales than... well... honestly thats lower sales than most everything. worldwide, 5 copies per day, its such an incredibly small number compared to any MMO that has been out for a similar amount of time.
whats that? I can't compare it to games like AION that have sold 1million copies in china alone? ok how about EVE? its been out for 6 years and its population has increased by about 50k in 1 year. that is a net increase, so they've sold more than 50k copies to cover the loss of some players leaving.
50 copies in 10 days, 50,000 copies in 1 year. can we tell which is the success and which is the flop?
I pulled numbers out of my ass, yes. Just like you guys.
Thats cool, but I'm not a Pulling-Numbers type of guy. I am a professional in the field of finance and cant afford to pull numbers out of my butt. So I will say that darkfall will in fact survive, even for the long haul and this is how, it's a new business model called "1000 true fans". Now this blog contains a business plan in which a small company (Adventurine) can survive withering conditions if they can retain a core minumum of True Blue fans that keep coming back, playing the game and paying for their subs. Maybe in their case it may need 10,000 true fans becuase thats all the server can hold right?
Now a small company that is using this plan is achieved longevity (means been around a long time) by establishing their 1,000 trueblues, it's Flashbang Studios Read that artcie from the Wall Street Journal, don't be scared its not too boring.
I am not sure what Adv's overhead is, what it's costing them to run this game or what they will need to keep the company running over the long term. But if they retain at least 5,000 fans they pull in $75,000 a month with subs. Considering tax, payroll and expenses that might be at least $25,000 monthly income. That works out to $300,000 a year for the entire show, not too bad for a startup. Will that pay the bills, I don't know. Will they survive, I don't know. But what I do know is that all these flame-threads gives this game infamy that is a form of "viral" popularity and will help promote the game in a backend type of way.
Nothing creates more drama on the internetz than a good "Darkfail" thread.
Honestly, this company will more than likely not try to make another game. Their "next" project would be considered vaporware just like DF and they will be the laughing stock..even more so than they already are. I'd love to see Aventurine disband and try to get hired by other MMO companies, that'd be hilarious.
I'd hire former DF employees on an MMO. I'm sure they could do a fine job at the tasks they were assigned. Just wouldn't hire Tasos or anyone in charge of Public Relations or running the company.
But hire them for model making, writing code, etc., sure why not? With some good managers and supervision I'm sure they'd do just fine.
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Idiot.. WoW servers hold upwards 10,000 on at a time. L2R.
I can promise you this, tho. You DONT wanna to be on them when they get close to the max, or even half way...
You really don't know if the bills are being paid.
Right now no one realy knows the state of the game, except that the players are having fun for the most part.
Lets just hope for the best.
I don't think most here wants the game to fail well at least not until this latest fiasco. What we want is for the lying from Tasos to stop. The game features to be implemented and the sales open to be able to buy the game.
As for the UO vets, I have seen quite a few of them here and I doubt they would give the game an 8/10.
I don't think most here wants the game to fail well at least not until this latest fiasco. What we want is for the lying from Tasos to stop. The game features to be implemented and the sales open to be able to buy the game.
As for the UO vets, I have seen quite a few of them here and I doubt they would give the game an 8/10.
What features havent been implemented? All im aware of is the wolf mount. And if the servers can only hold so many then the shop shouldnt be perma open cause it would flood the game.
DFO has 'failed' yes if you put it it terms of every other MMO out there: Yes, it's not a mass market cashcow that everyone's grandmother can play...
In that respect, EVE has 'failed' too..
Sorry but a lot of people these days need to pull their head out of the sand annd realise not every MMO out there will have the funding of publishers to milk off and those devs will do their best to keep whatever playerbase they gain IN the game, not just expect them to leave a few months later until the next gimmick content is released and cut their losses and just milk the new comers.
DFO caters for those players who like that kind of sandbox, it's a very minior group these days, and I'm not expecting MO to be any different
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Darkfall failed the second MO released its Alpha footage.
A owner of a Game who lies to its Fan base and those who support the Liar of the said game.Make both of there creditials unreliable..And yes the game should be put out of its Misery!
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
and you can 100% be sure the game will be perfect and everyone will want to play it? hm?
Sorry but thats what I said about WAR, and look what Mythic did to it, all i know is DFO is out, and it's an ok game
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Eve has 300k + subs in what way do you think you can ever relate the two games? Eves devs succeeded in making a high quality game, Aventurin didn't even come close. All they did was give a rule set that some people like and a shitty world to act it out in.
and you can 100% be sure the game will be perfect and everyone will want to play it? hm?
Sorry but thats what I said about WAR, and look what Mythic did to it, all i know is DFO is out, and it's an ok game
Well thanks for your opinion..Like you said its a ok game..(2/10 Sarcasm) So in reality it not worth writing about..
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
1/3rd of the games population on at a time. yeah... right. but you're doing a great job at pulling numbers out of no where and passing them as fact.
50 copies in 10 days. thats lower sales than... well... honestly thats lower sales than most everything. worldwide, 5 copies per day, its such an incredibly small number compared to any MMO that has been out for a similar amount of time.
whats that? I can't compare it to games like AION that have sold 1million copies in china alone? ok how about EVE? its been out for 6 years and its population has increased by about 50k in 1 year. that is a net increase, so they've sold more than 50k copies to cover the loss of some players leaving.
50 copies in 10 days, 50,000 copies in 1 year. can we tell which is the success and which is the flop?
I pulled numbers out of my ass, yes. Just like you guys.
store sold 50 copies last time it was open, that was 10-11 days ago. AION reported 1million china accts (thats what, 1-2 months?). EVE reported 300k accts (up from 250k last year). my numbers came from real places.
Oh? So your an investor in these? No? Please explain to me how these other poor games with higher sales affect my gameplay in a full server? Oh, that's right. You can't. Nice try though. Give you an A for effort.
Classic DF fan tactic...
When presented with facts you can't refute... change the argument!
Let's step through this starting with your first post quoted here, shall we Ruyn?
Ruyn Quote #1:
"I would guess approx 30,000 people on the server with at least 10,000 playing at a time. So about twice the wow server."
Majinash's Response:
Majinash challenges your claim, calling BS, and providing actual real numbers representing DF's 50 sales in the last 10-11 days, compared to other MMOs selling in the 10s of thousands. Read his first full quote for the details.
Ruyn Quote #2:
"I pulled numbers out of my ass, yes. Just like you guys. "
Actually... no he didn't... However, you did.
Majinash's Response #2:
"store sold 50 copies last time it was open, that was 10-11 days ago. AION reported 1million china accts (thats what, 1-2 months?). EVE reported 300k accts (up from 250k last year). my numbers came from real places."
Once again, he points out these numbers which are derived from real sources, unlike yours which you have now admitted were pulled out of your ass.
Ruyn Quote #3 (aka: The Strawman Maneuver, or "Topic Hopping")
"Oh? So your an investor in these? No? Please explain to me how these other poor games with higher sales affect my gameplay in a full server? Oh, that's right. You can't. Nice try though. Give you an A for effort."
Complete and utter BS response. You made a BS claim. You were called out on it and proven wrong. So instead of just sucking it up and dealing with it... you change the topic from "how many people" to "how does that affect me?", which is a complete cop-out and has nothing to do with the subject *you* opened with your "approx 30,000 people" statement.
Your posts, Ruyn, are a classic example of some DF fans' failure to make a valid point, and move on when proven wrong.
If you have nothing to back up a statement... then don't make it in the first place. And if you do anyway and are called out on it... don't take the BS way out by putting up strawman arguments and changing the topic. It's a very obvious and very lame response.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I don't think most here wants the game to fail well at least not until this latest fiasco. What we want is for the lying from Tasos to stop. The game features to be implemented and the sales open to be able to buy the game.
As for the UO vets, I have seen quite a few of them here and I doubt they would give the game an 8/10.
What features havent been implemented? All im aware of is the wolf mount. And if the servers can only hold so many then the shop shouldnt be perma open cause it would flood the game.
Is the secure trade system where you can trade in and out of the game there yet?
Is the crafting inventing system in yet, where you can design and create anything?
are the safeguards in place to protect you from cheaters and exploits?
Is the weather in that can affect the players?
Is the player housing in? I'm not talking abut the cities or hamlets.
Just to name a few.
All you have so far is ffa pvp, for loot that is easily replaced.
basic crafting following scripted recipes, so you cannot create new items.
city sieges, for what? Not for resources since they are the same every where.
and a limited skill system, which means you can't be what you want, no skills to really define your character and be unique.
Plus it is only one server that they claim is scalable, meaning it should be able to grow with the population. Which as we know it can't.
EvE has 300k + in subs after 6 years. How many subs had EvE in its first month?
There are opinions, and there are facts. If somebody say that DF is boring, well, it's his opinion. If somebody say that it needs 10 sec to change weapons(as Ed Zitron said, for example), it isn't an opinion, it's a lie.
Have tried some MMORPGs since UO. EQ, WoW, LOTRO Beta, WAR... and haven't found any satisfaccion in them. Can't say that about Darkfall, I'm having a lot of fun!
Yeah, it's a paid beta.
Yeah, there isn't a lot of promised things.
But, for me, this game is the best MMORPG since UO.
Crap or not I'm interested to try this game out. The one things people fail to realize is good or bad publicity is publicity. It creates more chatter about a game, and if the game is better then what Eurogamer reviewed people will look poorly upon Eurogamer, and if the game is as bad as they say it is . . . many people waisted many years developing digital garbage.
[(T+G=W)=Gr*Nf]-S=FoF
T=Time G=Gear W=Win Gr=Grind Nf=NoFun S=Skill FoF=FullofFail
"Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's azz by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?" - Tommy Boy
Ppl get caught up in numbers, some MMO's are surviving on a tiny amount of subs, such as Neocron 2 for example which has less than 10k subs.
Ofc with so few subs the process of updating your gaming experience is serverly hindered becuase your going to lack the man power to bring new content to the players, your going to be left with a stale game eventually.
Will that happen to DFO, who knows, perhaps the team that operates it have factored that in and will be happy to remain a tiny operation, perhaps they are using DFO as a means to gain enough experience to go further with a new project in the future, or DFO might suddenly go F2P and have an item mall (That will be interesting on a full PvP server).
I really wouldn't want DFO to fail, even if I won't be playing it due to what I believe to be some pretty god awful management of an MMO, if EVE can have so many users on at any given time with their tech you would have thought that a game in development for such a long time would have been able to come up with something similar, I certainly haven't seen any constraints on new players not being able to join the single EVE server, and they even have trial accounts to boot.
With what is in red now. Is it a lie or an exaggeration?
See depending on your point of view it could be either. Does it take a couple of seconds to switch weapons? As far as I have read yes it does, does it take 10 seconds? no, but it might feel that way to some.
The thing is that you are having fun, in the long run isn't that the only thing that matters?
I agree with what you say.
I went back in the forums here to when EVE first came out, and there is no talk there like there is for this game. They seem to have started with a small player base and grew over years. How ever there was no discussion on not being able to buy the game.
EVE also had free trials right after release and never had limited times to buy the game. That was 6 years ago. I would think that at this time Darkfall would be able to do the same thing.
how DARE you compare this trash to UO. Darkfall will NEVER be anywhere close to how awesome UO is/was.
Honestly, this company will more than likely not try to make another game. Their "next" project would be considered vaporware just like DF and they will be the laughing stock..even more so than they already are.
I'd love to see Aventurine disband and try to get hired by other MMO companies, that'd be hilarious.
1/3rd of the games population on at a time. yeah... right. but you're doing a great job at pulling numbers out of no where and passing them as fact.
50 copies in 10 days. thats lower sales than... well... honestly thats lower sales than most everything. worldwide, 5 copies per day, its such an incredibly small number compared to any MMO that has been out for a similar amount of time.
whats that? I can't compare it to games like AION that have sold 1million copies in china alone? ok how about EVE? its been out for 6 years and its population has increased by about 50k in 1 year. that is a net increase, so they've sold more than 50k copies to cover the loss of some players leaving.
50 copies in 10 days, 50,000 copies in 1 year. can we tell which is the success and which is the flop?
I pulled numbers out of my ass, yes. Just like you guys.
Thats cool, but I'm not a Pulling-Numbers type of guy. I am a professional in the field of finance and cant afford to pull numbers out of my butt. So I will say that darkfall will in fact survive, even for the long haul and this is how, it's a new business model called "1000 true fans". Now this blog contains a business plan in which a small company (Adventurine) can survive withering conditions if they can retain a core minumum of True Blue fans that keep coming back, playing the game and paying for their subs. Maybe in their case it may need 10,000 true fans becuase thats all the server can hold right?
Now a small company that is using this plan is achieved longevity (means been around a long time) by establishing their 1,000 trueblues, it's Flashbang Studios Read that artcie from the Wall Street Journal, don't be scared its not too boring.
I am not sure what Adv's overhead is, what it's costing them to run this game or what they will need to keep the company running over the long term. But if they retain at least 5,000 fans they pull in $75,000 a month with subs. Considering tax, payroll and expenses that might be at least $25,000 monthly income. That works out to $300,000 a year for the entire show, not too bad for a startup. Will that pay the bills, I don't know. Will they survive, I don't know. But what I do know is that all these flame-threads gives this game infamy that is a form of "viral" popularity and will help promote the game in a backend type of way.
Nothing creates more drama on the internetz than a good "Darkfail" thread.
Play safe,
Ink
and you can 100% be sure the game will be perfect and everyone will want to play it? hm?
Sorry but thats what I said about WAR, and look what Mythic did to it, all i know is DFO is out, and it's an ok game
Well, I stopped playing df as soon as I saw that video. So for me..... it failed.
and you can 100% be sure the game will be perfect and everyone will want to play it? hm?
Sorry but thats what I said about WAR, and look what Mythic did to it, all i know is DFO is out, and it's an ok game
Well, I stopped playing df as soon as I saw that video. So for me..... it failed.
Graphics don't make a good game.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
and you can 100% be sure the game will be perfect and everyone will want to play it? hm?
Sorry but thats what I said about WAR, and look what Mythic did to it, all i know is DFO is out, and it's an ok game
Well, I stopped playing df as soon as I saw that video. So for me..... it failed.
Graphics don't make a good game.
No they don't, but come on, there are limits ffs.
I'd hire former DF employees on an MMO. I'm sure they could do a fine job at the tasks they were assigned. Just wouldn't hire Tasos or anyone in charge of Public Relations or running the company.
But hire them for model making, writing code, etc., sure why not? With some good managers and supervision I'm sure they'd do just fine.