stupid post's are easy to make ..it is like find a pic with the word stupid in it. Then you link the picture in your post and all you said was
stupid.
Stupid idea to express something worth discussion. Just stupid.
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That's the score I give to Darkfall, no more. I really do not see why Darkfall should get a good review. It is not for the casual player. This game is for the people that have a LOT of time to play and that are orginized enough to work as a team, form guilds and alliances. It's all about territory control.
In theory, sounds great. But in my opinion, a biased one of course, the game lacks many things that I won't list because I need coffee to wake up. Anyways, you can nto ask more for a game developed by 2 or 3 dudes. I was surprised they actually managed to release it.
The score would have been different if they would have a grade for aspects like "excitement in pvp", but they don't.
So the 4/10 reflects parts of the game which are governed by sub scores used by this site and Darkfall fails to deliver in those aspects.
If you take that in mind it is a fair review since it also states that for ffa pvp loving people who are in a nice guild it can be an entertaining or even good game.
But my personal guess is, even when there would be a website ONLY dedicated to ffa pvp / sandbox mmorpgs and that particular fanbase, where world pvp, player freedom, and player generated endgame values WOULD be rated, DF would not score higher than a 7.5 tops since it seems to leave too much to be desired in general aspects like animations, sound, graphics, character development, pve, lore, etc.
Another Ed Zitron nonsense. But these one is honest about him being biased "The biggest problem I have with Dark Fall Online is that the game has too many annoying elements that feels old-fashioned, outdated and unnecessarily complex, so I simply do not manage to have so fun with the game that I would like would like." These are just the elments that make DarkFAll special and GOOD. DarkFall lead MMO back to their roots and this was a need step to escape from the mediocre crap mainstream companies release. Old_fashioned >>>> mainstream crap complex >>>>>>>> mainstream crap
he also give graphics the highest rating lol Its like he don't understand MMO's beside graphics lol. Mediocrity has destroyed the taste in some reviewer. DF is not alone with renewing the roots of MMO. There are some new MMO that try to do the same. DF is the first in that. Just some coneheads reviewer think their mainstream bullshit should be a measure for oher MMO. DF is rough, it has character, it is an origin. it is 8 / 10
so Ed/Eurogamer is wrong and biased, Kean is wrong and biased and now gamereactor is wrong and biased.
but its nice to see Darthraiden be objective, neutral and not the slightest biased, give darkfall the score it really deserves.
DF is not alone with renewing the roots of MMO. There are some new MMO that try to do the same.
Then truly the genre is on the edge of extinction. I wonder what will replace it?
Darkfall is a shell. They tried to combine AC, Shadowbane, UO and FPS combat and managed to capture only the worst qualities of each. It isn't complex in the sense of the game having depth. The game has no depth. It's complex in the sense of being such a kludge the mechaincs get in the way of every thing you try to do. Its a sandbox wasteland full of broken toys.
It won't do any good to reply to him, Zymurgeist. As far as Darth is concerned. He's right, everyone else is wrong. The review though a bit rough to read, I found to be interesting. I'm one of the peple that believes, that stream lining old ways is part of the way to opening evolution. Having a UI or game menu's that are overly complex or wasteful. IMHO are unnecessary in this day and age. Constantly stepping backwards, means you'll never move forward, you'll just see your goal getting further away.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
Another Ed Zitron nonsense. But these one is honest about him being biased "The biggest problem I have with Dark Fall Online is that the game has too many annoying elements that feels old-fashioned, outdated and unnecessarily complex, so I simply do not manage to have so fun with the game that I would like would like." These are just the elments that make DarkFAll special and GOOD. DarkFall lead MMO back to their roots and this was a need step to escape from the mediocre crap mainstream companies release. Old_fashioned >>>> mainstream crap complex >>>>>>>> mainstream crap
he also give graphics the highest rating lol Its like he don't understand MMO's beside graphics lol. Mediocrity has destroyed the taste in some reviewer. DF is not alone with renewing the roots of MMO. There are some new MMO that try to do the same. DF is the first in that. Just some coneheads reviewer think their mainstream bullshit should be a measure for oher MMO. DF is rough, it has character, it is an origin. it is 8 / 10
The game is nowhere near 8/10 this is all porky lies. Anyone with an ounce of sense sees DF is a brave attempt by a stupid developer and is more around 5. Possibly less. I go for 3 or 4. Raiden are you sure your not paid by AV. Check your bank statement.
Also the complex bit is prefixed with unnecessarily, I love complex games but what I do not like is complexity for the sake of complexity. This just shows how AV were way off the mark and do not understand complex gameplay but do know how to make long winded experience. Of course if they'd listened to beta tester maybe some basic stuff like gaining stats for firing arrows/spells at nothing. Oh and then there wouldn't be a massive race to top stats and an emphasis on .. ohh I dunno maybe actually playing and not botting everything.
OH and DF is certainly out of date. Its long development is a big indication. Unless of course they kept doing a rewrite which might explain why half the features are missing. Either way it does not look good. So....
No ... no.. no...no! Naughty.... bad off the furinture... bad boy !
Originally posted by DarkPony The score would have been different if they would have a grade for aspects like "excitement in pvp", but they don't. So the 4/10 reflects parts of the game which are governed by sub scores used by this site and Darkfall fails to deliver in those aspects.
wouldn't "excitement in pvp" just fall under gameplay...especially if the game is based almost entirely on pvp?
Originally posted by DarkPony The score would have been different if they would have a grade for aspects like "excitement in pvp", but they don't. So the 4/10 reflects parts of the game which are governed by sub scores used by this site and Darkfall fails to deliver in those aspects.
wouldn't "excitement in pvp" just fall under gameplay...especially if the game is based almost entirely on pvp?
Right. Having the reviewer rate the graphics ! higher then the gameplay shows he surrendered at reviewing Darkfall. Next paragraph he even admit it. Its like him saying "if i was a fan of such games i would give it a higher rate".
Doesn't marked in green belongs to gameplay ? how can the word "exciting" be put then in relation to the low gameplay rating and represent it.
"extreme grinding" for me means he wants instant gratification ..typically the rotten habit o gained through playing mainstream MMO's
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"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
That's the score I give to Darkfall, no more. I really do not see why Darkfall should get a good review. It is not for the casual player. This game is for the people that have a LOT of time to play and that are orginized enough to work as a team, form guilds and alliances. It's all about territory control. In theory, sounds great. But in my opinion, a biased one of course, the game lacks many things that I won't list because I need coffee to wake up. Anyways, you can nto ask more for a game developed by 2 or 3 dudes. I was surprised they actually managed to release it.
um, if what you're saying is that darkfall = lots of macroing, lots of grind, lots of zerg, and lots of zerg during your opponent's sleeptime; then, i whole-heartedly agree.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs!
I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
Hysterical!
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -Edmund Burke
Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?" (Psalm 94:16)
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
the last time i played darkfall was last night after work.
darkfall IS vaporware, using at least half a dozen different sources/definitions - it qualifies as vaporware to a reasonable, intelligent person -- get over it -- if the game lasts for 100 years; it will STILL be vaporware. the definition of the term vaporware has nothing to do with release.
and, overall, the paid to play beta shows why characters get wiped before retail release --- all the macroing and exploiting that can't be accomplished now -- in a game that's only a couple of months old; you will have a HUGE gap (from just those couple of months) between toons created this week and ones created a couple of months ago... gaps that won't be caught up this year.
maybe once the paid beta finally finishes, and they add prestige classes (which tasos stated they would), or ooo i dunno, maybe add the jump skill so you can get acrobatics and/or jump higher, and several dozen items along these lines -- then maybe the game won't be so bad. maybe.
city siege mechanics need tons of work. this universal bank bullshit is completely unrealistic in a game that has an extremely convoluted looting system in the name of "realism" -- pick one, don't be idiotic and mix/match the two - either go for realism, or go with unrealistic -- both of which are terms i find hilarious when used in the context of a fantasy mmo.
bleh, the list goes on for ever, of jacked up game mechanics and just horrible issues in this game.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
the last time i played darkfall was last night after work.
darkfall IS vaporware, using at least half a dozen different sources/definitions - it qualifies as vaporware to a reasonable, intelligent person -- get over it -- if the game lasts for 100 years; it will STILL be vaporware. the definition of the term vaporware has nothing to do with release.
and, overall, the paid to play beta shows why characters get wiped before retail release --- all the macroing and exploiting that can't be accomplished now -- in a game that's only a couple of months old; you will have a HUGE gap (from just those couple of months) between toons created this week and ones created a couple of months ago... gaps that won't be caught up this year.
maybe once the paid beta finally finishes, and they add prestige classes (which tasos stated they would), or ooo i dunno, maybe add the jump skill so you can get acrobatics and/or jump higher, and several dozen items along these lines -- then maybe the game won't be so bad. maybe.
city siege mechanics need tons of work. this universal bank bullshit is completely unrealistic in a game that has an extremely convoluted looting system in the name of "realism" -- pick one, don't be idiotic and mix/match the two - either go for realism, or go with unrealistic -- both of which are terms i find hilarious when used in the context of a fantasy mmo.
bleh, the list goes on for ever, of jacked up game mechanics and just horrible issues in this game.
Merriam-Webstar says you BS'ing about the term vaporware.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
On paid Beta "release" I was arrest and sent to an Iranian prison, on my first day I was ganked by a group of half naked guys with bad breath then over the course of a month repeatedly raped by a tall Greek guy naked. There was nothing to do but fight all day, the only woman I spoke to was my mother over skype telling me to get out of there find a woman and get a job.
I was locked up with about 10k fellow inmates, quarters were spartan and I spent most of my time in my cell sitting on a cold hard bench staring at a bucket of excrement.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
the last time i played darkfall was last night after work.
darkfall IS vaporware, using at least half a dozen different sources/definitions - it qualifies as vaporware to a reasonable, intelligent person -- get over it -- if the game lasts for 100 years; it will STILL be vaporware. the definition of the term vaporware has nothing to do with release.
and, overall, the paid to play beta shows why characters get wiped before retail release --- all the macroing and exploiting that can't be accomplished now -- in a game that's only a couple of months old; you will have a HUGE gap (from just those couple of months) between toons created this week and ones created a couple of months ago... gaps that won't be caught up this year.
maybe once the paid beta finally finishes, and they add prestige classes (which tasos stated they would), or ooo i dunno, maybe add the jump skill so you can get acrobatics and/or jump higher, and several dozen items along these lines -- then maybe the game won't be so bad. maybe.
city siege mechanics need tons of work. this universal bank bullshit is completely unrealistic in a game that has an extremely convoluted looting system in the name of "realism" -- pick one, don't be idiotic and mix/match the two - either go for realism, or go with unrealistic -- both of which are terms i find hilarious when used in the context of a fantasy mmo.
bleh, the list goes on for ever, of jacked up game mechanics and just horrible issues in this game.
Merriam-Webstar says you BS'ing about the term vaporware.
you can probably find definitions in this very thread. if you refuse to conduct yourself in a reasonable fashion; then, i can not help you.
you do realize that a word can have multiple meanings, yes? a reasonable person can accept that words have multiple meanings and will not QQ and whine for endless months because not all of those meanings fit with said person's agenda.
get off the "it's not vaporware" meme - it is vaporware, it will always be vaporware. this is not something you can debate without outrightly ignoring definitions from credible sources, or simply lying.
and if anyone else reviews darkfall while it's still in a pay-to-play beta state and gives it high ratings-- that person will lose all credibility from reasonable players. that should be the painfully apparent paradox which tasos has created for himself.
so, contribute, move to another topic, or go ride a bike, i don't care; but get off the misinformation kick, it's droll.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs! I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
I haven't played DF. I can't. I cannot download it. I cannot buy it. I tried. It would not let me; some lame excuse of being "sold out". It was/is not available. No way to try it, and this perplexes me.
They say DF is successful. They say it rocks and there are tons of people wanting to play. So, why only one server? Seriously, if the game rocks and there is a market, why is Aventurine not opening more servers? Servers are not THAT expensive.
A simple rule of business is if it sells, sell more; if it doesn't sell, stop. It has been 3 months since release, and still it has "limited participation." Does AV want to make money? What MMO doesn't jump at the chance for more subs? I ask, because all this makes no sense, and causes me to distrust a product I have not even tried.
Until the day comes that I can safely and reliably buy the game and play the game it falls in the category of "Vaporware" (IMHO) for it might as well not exist. In fact, for me, other than as a source of amusement on MMORPG.COM, DF does NOT exist. I have never seen it played on mine or any of my gaming friends' machines.
Maybe, once sales open, like most normal products have I may change my tune... I mean, I have downloaded CoS, RoM, PWI, and I can buy WoW, AoC, LOTRO, Cov/CoH, etc. and CCP has invited me to try Eve I must ask: What is Darkfall's problem?
I can't criticize DarkFall, but I can criticize the perceptions precipitated by Aventurineand its fanbase due to their attitudes, and the fact that the product is simply not available in an acceptible fashion. These perceptions are awful at best and inspires nothing but contempt for what might be a fine game, but I will never know, and, to be frank, thanks to the over zealous fanbase, I now am losing my desire to try said product.
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I agree!
stupid post's are easy to make ..it is like find a pic with the word stupid in it. Then you link the picture in your post and all you said was
stupid.
Stupid idea to express something worth discussion. Just stupid.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
stupid post's are easy to make ..it is like find a pic with the word stupid in it. Then you link the picture in your post and all you said was
stupid.
Stupid idea to express something worth discussion. Just stupid.
Stupid is as stupid does Forest, Forest Daaaaarth.......
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
That's the score I give to Darkfall, no more. I really do not see why Darkfall should get a good review. It is not for the casual player. This game is for the people that have a LOT of time to play and that are orginized enough to work as a team, form guilds and alliances. It's all about territory control.
In theory, sounds great. But in my opinion, a biased one of course, the game lacks many things that I won't list because I need coffee to wake up. Anyways, you can nto ask more for a game developed by 2 or 3 dudes. I was surprised they actually managed to release it.
The score would have been different if they would have a grade for aspects like "excitement in pvp", but they don't.
So the 4/10 reflects parts of the game which are governed by sub scores used by this site and Darkfall fails to deliver in those aspects.
If you take that in mind it is a fair review since it also states that for ffa pvp loving people who are in a nice guild it can be an entertaining or even good game.
But my personal guess is, even when there would be a website ONLY dedicated to ffa pvp / sandbox mmorpgs and that particular fanbase, where world pvp, player freedom, and player generated endgame values WOULD be rated, DF would not score higher than a 7.5 tops since it seems to leave too much to be desired in general aspects like animations, sound, graphics, character development, pve, lore, etc.
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so Ed/Eurogamer is wrong and biased, Kean is wrong and biased and now gamereactor is wrong and biased.
but its nice to see Darthraiden be objective, neutral and not the slightest biased, give darkfall the score it really deserves.
this post might containe a little sarcasm.
Entertain us Tasos... Entertain us..... ! Yaaaaaaaaay !
well at least we know what the next noobcomic will be about, no doubt itll be the usual display of mature humour.
Near Tasos home: Hmmm, a mushroom cloud in the distance..
Then truly the genre is on the edge of extinction. I wonder what will replace it?
Darkfall is a shell. They tried to combine AC, Shadowbane, UO and FPS combat and managed to capture only the worst qualities of each. It isn't complex in the sense of the game having depth. The game has no depth. It's complex in the sense of being such a kludge the mechaincs get in the way of every thing you try to do. Its a sandbox wasteland full of broken toys.
It won't do any good to reply to him, Zymurgeist. As far as Darth is concerned. He's right, everyone else is wrong. The review though a bit rough to read, I found to be interesting. I'm one of the peple that believes, that stream lining old ways is part of the way to opening evolution. Having a UI or game menu's that are overly complex or wasteful. IMHO are unnecessary in this day and age. Constantly stepping backwards, means you'll never move forward, you'll just see your goal getting further away.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
For me it looks like a fair review. The final rating maybe a little low but is a matter of opinion.
The game is nowhere near 8/10 this is all porky lies. Anyone with an ounce of sense sees DF is a brave attempt by a stupid developer and is more around 5. Possibly less. I go for 3 or 4. Raiden are you sure your not paid by AV. Check your bank statement.
Also the complex bit is prefixed with unnecessarily, I love complex games but what I do not like is complexity for the sake of complexity. This just shows how AV were way off the mark and do not understand complex gameplay but do know how to make long winded experience. Of course if they'd listened to beta tester maybe some basic stuff like gaining stats for firing arrows/spells at nothing. Oh and then there wouldn't be a massive race to top stats and an emphasis on .. ohh I dunno maybe actually playing and not botting everything.
OH and DF is certainly out of date. Its long development is a big indication. Unless of course they kept doing a rewrite which might explain why half the features are missing. Either way it does not look good. So....
No ... no.. no...no! Naughty.... bad off the furinture... bad boy !
wouldn't "excitement in pvp" just fall under gameplay...especially if the game is based almost entirely on pvp?
wouldn't "excitement in pvp" just fall under gameplay...especially if the game is based almost entirely on pvp?
Right. Having the reviewer rate the graphics ! higher then the gameplay shows he surrendered at reviewing Darkfall. Next paragraph he even admit it. Its like him saying "if i was a fan of such games i would give it a higher rate".
what you get out of these ?
"Plus:
Paranoid atmosphere, exciting open-world PvP
Minus:
Cumbersome menus, extreme grinding, poor presentation"
Doesn't marked in green belongs to gameplay ? how can the word "exciting" be put then in relation to the low gameplay rating and represent it.
"extreme grinding" for me means he wants instant gratification ..typically the rotten habit o gained through playing mainstream MMO's
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
um, if what you're saying is that darkfall = lots of macroing, lots of grind, lots of zerg, and lots of zerg during your opponent's sleeptime; then, i whole-heartedly agree.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Reading the darkfail forums it's mostly retards playing the game....
I'm disgusted by this amateurish, tainted and obviously biased review. I mean 4/10? Was this guy on acid when he played the game? There is no way that DFO merits 4/10, maybe 3/10 at most but this reviewer was probably paid off by Aventurine. Just that that they only had enough to bump the review up from 1/10 to 4/10 since they have only 6k subs!
I guess Tasos will be angry as he has to cancel his WoW sub and cut back on humus this month!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Hysterical!
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -Edmund Burke
Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?"
(Psalm 94:16)
lol
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
the last time i played darkfall was last night after work.
darkfall IS vaporware, using at least half a dozen different sources/definitions - it qualifies as vaporware to a reasonable, intelligent person -- get over it -- if the game lasts for 100 years; it will STILL be vaporware. the definition of the term vaporware has nothing to do with release.
and, overall, the paid to play beta shows why characters get wiped before retail release --- all the macroing and exploiting that can't be accomplished now -- in a game that's only a couple of months old; you will have a HUGE gap (from just those couple of months) between toons created this week and ones created a couple of months ago... gaps that won't be caught up this year.
maybe once the paid beta finally finishes, and they add prestige classes (which tasos stated they would), or ooo i dunno, maybe add the jump skill so you can get acrobatics and/or jump higher, and several dozen items along these lines -- then maybe the game won't be so bad. maybe.
city siege mechanics need tons of work. this universal bank bullshit is completely unrealistic in a game that has an extremely convoluted looting system in the name of "realism" -- pick one, don't be idiotic and mix/match the two - either go for realism, or go with unrealistic -- both of which are terms i find hilarious when used in the context of a fantasy mmo.
bleh, the list goes on for ever, of jacked up game mechanics and just horrible issues in this game.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
the last time i played darkfall was last night after work.
darkfall IS vaporware, using at least half a dozen different sources/definitions - it qualifies as vaporware to a reasonable, intelligent person -- get over it -- if the game lasts for 100 years; it will STILL be vaporware. the definition of the term vaporware has nothing to do with release.
and, overall, the paid to play beta shows why characters get wiped before retail release --- all the macroing and exploiting that can't be accomplished now -- in a game that's only a couple of months old; you will have a HUGE gap (from just those couple of months) between toons created this week and ones created a couple of months ago... gaps that won't be caught up this year.
maybe once the paid beta finally finishes, and they add prestige classes (which tasos stated they would), or ooo i dunno, maybe add the jump skill so you can get acrobatics and/or jump higher, and several dozen items along these lines -- then maybe the game won't be so bad. maybe.
city siege mechanics need tons of work. this universal bank bullshit is completely unrealistic in a game that has an extremely convoluted looting system in the name of "realism" -- pick one, don't be idiotic and mix/match the two - either go for realism, or go with unrealistic -- both of which are terms i find hilarious when used in the context of a fantasy mmo.
bleh, the list goes on for ever, of jacked up game mechanics and just horrible issues in this game.
Merriam-Webstar says you BS'ing about the term vaporware.
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So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
On paid Beta "release" I was arrest and sent to an Iranian prison, on my first day I was ganked by a group of half naked guys with bad breath then over the course of a month repeatedly raped by a tall Greek guy naked. There was nothing to do but fight all day, the only woman I spoke to was my mother over skype telling me to get out of there find a woman and get a job.
I was locked up with about 10k fellow inmates, quarters were spartan and I spent most of my time in my cell sitting on a cold hard bench staring at a bucket of excrement.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
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So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
the last time i played darkfall was last night after work.
darkfall IS vaporware, using at least half a dozen different sources/definitions - it qualifies as vaporware to a reasonable, intelligent person -- get over it -- if the game lasts for 100 years; it will STILL be vaporware. the definition of the term vaporware has nothing to do with release.
and, overall, the paid to play beta shows why characters get wiped before retail release --- all the macroing and exploiting that can't be accomplished now -- in a game that's only a couple of months old; you will have a HUGE gap (from just those couple of months) between toons created this week and ones created a couple of months ago... gaps that won't be caught up this year.
maybe once the paid beta finally finishes, and they add prestige classes (which tasos stated they would), or ooo i dunno, maybe add the jump skill so you can get acrobatics and/or jump higher, and several dozen items along these lines -- then maybe the game won't be so bad. maybe.
city siege mechanics need tons of work. this universal bank bullshit is completely unrealistic in a game that has an extremely convoluted looting system in the name of "realism" -- pick one, don't be idiotic and mix/match the two - either go for realism, or go with unrealistic -- both of which are terms i find hilarious when used in the context of a fantasy mmo.
bleh, the list goes on for ever, of jacked up game mechanics and just horrible issues in this game.
Merriam-Webstar says you BS'ing about the term vaporware.
you can probably find definitions in this very thread. if you refuse to conduct yourself in a reasonable fashion; then, i can not help you.
you do realize that a word can have multiple meanings, yes? a reasonable person can accept that words have multiple meanings and will not QQ and whine for endless months because not all of those meanings fit with said person's agenda.
get off the "it's not vaporware" meme - it is vaporware, it will always be vaporware. this is not something you can debate without outrightly ignoring definitions from credible sources, or simply lying.
and if anyone else reviews darkfall while it's still in a pay-to-play beta state and gives it high ratings-- that person will lose all credibility from reasonable players. that should be the painfully apparent paradox which tasos has created for himself.
so, contribute, move to another topic, or go ride a bike, i don't care; but get off the misinformation kick, it's droll.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
So you played DarkFall then ? having it called vapoware in another thread leads to impression you didn't play.
Either you have not played it and you dont know shit about or you played it but then you should stop calling it vapor.
make up your mind.
I haven't played DF. I can't. I cannot download it. I cannot buy it. I tried. It would not let me; some lame excuse of being "sold out". It was/is not available. No way to try it, and this perplexes me.
They say DF is successful. They say it rocks and there are tons of people wanting to play. So, why only one server? Seriously, if the game rocks and there is a market, why is Aventurine not opening more servers? Servers are not THAT expensive.
A simple rule of business is if it sells, sell more; if it doesn't sell, stop. It has been 3 months since release, and still it has "limited participation." Does AV want to make money? What MMO doesn't jump at the chance for more subs? I ask, because all this makes no sense, and causes me to distrust a product I have not even tried.
Until the day comes that I can safely and reliably buy the game and play the game it falls in the category of "Vaporware" (IMHO) for it might as well not exist. In fact, for me, other than as a source of amusement on MMORPG.COM, DF does NOT exist. I have never seen it played on mine or any of my gaming friends' machines.
Maybe, once sales open, like most normal products have I may change my tune... I mean, I have downloaded CoS, RoM, PWI, and I can buy WoW, AoC, LOTRO, Cov/CoH, etc. and CCP has invited me to try Eve I must ask: What is Darkfall's problem?
I can't criticize DarkFall, but I can criticize the perceptions precipitated by Aventurineand its fanbase due to their attitudes, and the fact that the product is simply not available in an acceptible fashion. These perceptions are awful at best and inspires nothing but contempt for what might be a fine game, but I will never know, and, to be frank, thanks to the over zealous fanbase, I now am losing my desire to try said product.
So no, I haven't played DarkFall.