If you start off with a great design concept and the pictures of it aren't all "that", if the design is sound, you can always tweak those pictures in the end to get them "juuuust right."
So ...I'd say if you're judging this game solely on pictures, you need to take a step back and try and judge this game based on its design and concepts. I know not everyone will agree with me there, and that's fine. I'd just rather have a good idea that plays well then a crappy pos that looks good.
Originally posted by Aliaa Not sure why people are putting down the graphics ,The New shots of the Swamps,Weather effects ,etc look great to me
Noone was putting down the environmental pictures (swamps, weather effects, etc). On contrary, there was a concern for a quality of models in comparison to them
It is really easy. Good 3D artists are legion. They are everywhere looking for work. thousands upon thousands..
If a game completly ignore the quality of the graphics, the most selling part of the game to the hundreds of thousands of casual gamers and the only real advertisment for the gmae they have.. How much work and care do you think they put into all other aspects of the game?
It is so easy. If they ignore the easy part, nice looks, then how the hell do you htink they can make something good with the hard parts, like game design and game mechanics?!
THAT is why... Now go back worshipping something that lacks quality.. It says a lot more about you than other people. Just have a feeling you were a Shadowbane player as well.
Only game I wait for right now: Imperator. Go Mythic!
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force"
Once again all there showing is screenys. They still look bad too....
Ill throw up some pictures tell you a great story and put a dev on the end of my name. Then you all can kiss my ass too. Game dont exist but hey i got screenshots and a story lol.
Once again if you hate the game so much then just ignore it.
See flea is a griefer(not a pvper) and griefers don't just grief in games they grief in forums too. the good thing is that flea is as lousy a griefer as he is a judge of games. Oh he's annoying some of you to no end, but anyone who has seen him lose an argument, well its funny to watch. Just as an experiment stop responding to him and watch how he acts then, you won't be disappointed.
I've got nothing against playing a game with bad graphics, I'll still play a fun game with bad graphics over a boring game with good graphics anytime.
I'm giving them benefit of the doubt, just because of the path massives are taking now, which is "We can crank whatever we want out and so long as it has a popular name behind it the players will jump on it." Unlike other companies, the makers of wish have a lot more to lose if they fail.
well I went to that ravensmyst site that flea1 and dorkson promote and it pretty much answered my questions
buncha lineage2 fanbois, blizzard haters which is obvious by their anti-blizzard logo as well as 2 pretty lengthy articles on their news page on how much they hate wish.
its like a school boy who got ditched by some hot cheerleader and is now stalking her lolz pretty funny
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
yes the new human models look awesome. they did a really good job enhancing the details of the face. I cant wait to see them animated! rumor has it theyve gone to some great lengths to improve the idle animations of the toons such as shifting weight, blinking etc.
the flaming sword pic is my fave. killer lighting and I absolutely love the new armor. notice how that character holding the sword only has one sleeve? lends one to believe the paper doll allows for complete flexibility when equipping armor and clothing by dawning different sleeves for manueverabilty and/or defense (for roleplay purposes im sure, not mechanics)
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
The new character models do look pretty good. Kinda lame, but yes some good modeling of the human face. I hope they improve there especialy ugly cyclops model well. As to the graphics(and them being bad as someone said) being the only thing this game has going for it... this game is suppose to have a live storyline which i think sounds great. The bestiary is da shiiaat, gotta love the creatures, and the races are good too. WE HAVENT EVEN SEEN EM ALL! So to troll this game as crappy is ridiculous because it's obviously incomplete with 8 months of development to go, so haters go home. This game is raw, incomplete, unrefined and in beta but obviously MR is working on with their product.... new human models and new screen shots of landscape/beasties/models as well as new backround stories about every other day.
yes, the cyclops is getting a facelift..they all are. in fact the models that you see will more than likely be tweaked as well.
if its one thing that MR does its listen to its testers, and promptly. its not uncommon to hear from 2 or 3 developers on seperate issues in a day, in fact its [b]uncommon[/b] NOT to hear from at least one of them in a days time. and yes the forums are very active. I say this because we constantly critique the game. If anyone speaks out about its graphics its been me, its one thing that has bugged me about this game and theyre making excellent progress.
the good thing is they dont seem to hide much from the publics eyes as far as screenies go. in other words, the beta testers arent seeing much that isnt made immediately available to the public.
can be good and can be bad. as you can see a lot of the older screenshots lingering around this site are still haunting them.
and yes, the content so far is all that and a bag of chips.
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
Graphics are merely the icing on the cake for me. After awhile the eye becomes jaded to even the most spectacular graphics.
The gameplay IMO is the important part and Wish has a concept that interests me. Whether they can pull it off or keep it up if they do remains to be seen.
But they are veering from the mainstream cookie cutter approaches and seem to offer a chance for me to be Anskier the Archmagus. I ask no more from any game then that.
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Well, here's my take on things:
If you start off with a great design concept and the pictures of it aren't all "that", if the design is sound, you can always tweak those pictures in the end to get them "juuuust right."
So ...I'd say if you're judging this game solely on pictures, you need to take a step back and try and judge this game based on its design and concepts. I know not everyone will agree with me there, and that's fine. I'd just rather have a good idea that plays well then a crappy pos that looks good.
*gasp* I -do- have an opinion....
-- Jenni --
Wish Warcry
Noone was putting down the environmental pictures (swamps, weather effects, etc).
On contrary, there was a concern for a quality of models in comparison to them
It is really easy. Good 3D artists are legion. They are everywhere looking for work. thousands upon thousands..
If a game completly ignore the quality of the graphics, the most selling part of the game to the hundreds of thousands of casual gamers and the only real advertisment for the gmae they have.. How much work and care do you think they put into all other aspects of the game?
It is so easy. If they ignore the easy part, nice looks, then how the hell do you htink they can make something good with the hard parts, like game design and game mechanics?!
THAT is why... Now go back worshipping something that lacks quality.. It says a lot more about you than other people. Just have a feeling you were a Shadowbane player as well.
Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
Go Mythic!
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Once again all there showing is screenys. They still look bad too....
Ill throw up some pictures tell you a great story and put a dev on the end of my name. Then you all can kiss my ass too. Game dont exist but hey i got screenshots and a story lol.
www.ravensmyst.com
Orky Name Generator, only at www.bigchoppaz.com
Once again if you hate the game so much then just ignore it.
See flea is a griefer(not a pvper) and griefers don't just grief in games they grief in forums too. the good thing is that flea is as lousy a griefer as he is a judge of games. Oh he's annoying some of you to no end, but anyone who has seen him lose an argument, well its funny to watch. Just as an experiment stop responding to him and watch how he acts then, you won't be disappointed.
I've got nothing against playing a game with bad graphics, I'll still play a fun game with bad graphics over a boring game with good graphics anytime.
I'm giving them benefit of the doubt, just because of the path massives are taking now, which is "We can crank whatever we want out and so long as it has a popular name behind it the players will jump on it." Unlike other companies, the makers of wish have a lot more to lose if they fail.
well I went to that ravensmyst site that flea1 and dorkson promote and it pretty much answered my questions
buncha lineage2 fanbois, blizzard haters which is obvious by their anti-blizzard logo as well as 2 pretty lengthy articles on their news page on how much they hate wish.
its like a school boy who got ditched by some hot cheerleader and is now stalking her lolz pretty funny
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
would everyone stop reiterrating the same point! it's getting reduundant
Wish said - they'll create new models for chars, and they are sticking to their word
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?loadnews=2373
yes the new human models look awesome. they did a really good job enhancing the details of the face. I cant wait to see them animated! rumor has it theyve gone to some great lengths to improve the idle animations of the toons such as shifting weight, blinking etc.
the flaming sword pic is my fave. killer lighting and I absolutely love the new armor. notice how that character holding the sword only has one sleeve? lends one to believe the paper doll allows for complete flexibility when equipping armor and clothing by dawning different sleeves for manueverabilty and/or defense (for roleplay purposes im sure, not mechanics)
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
The new character models do look pretty good. Kinda lame, but yes some good modeling of the human face. I hope they improve there especialy ugly cyclops model well. As to the graphics(and them being bad as someone said) being the only thing this game has going for it... this game is suppose to have a live storyline which i think sounds great. The bestiary is da shiiaat, gotta love the creatures, and the races are good too. WE HAVENT EVEN SEEN EM ALL! So to troll this game as crappy is ridiculous because it's obviously incomplete with 8 months of development to go, so haters go home. This game is raw, incomplete, unrefined and in beta but obviously MR is working on with their product.... new human models and new screen shots of landscape/beasties/models as well as new backround stories about every other day.
yes, the cyclops is getting a facelift..they all are. in fact the models that you see will more than likely be tweaked as well.
if its one thing that MR does its listen to its testers, and promptly. its not uncommon to hear from 2 or 3 developers on seperate issues in a day, in fact its [b]uncommon[/b] NOT to hear from at least one of them in a days time. and yes the forums are very active. I say this because we constantly critique the game. If anyone speaks out about its graphics its been me, its one thing that has bugged me about this game and theyre making excellent progress.
the good thing is they dont seem to hide much from the publics eyes as far as screenies go. in other words, the beta testers arent seeing much that isnt made immediately available to the public.
can be good and can be bad. as you can see a lot of the older screenshots lingering around this site are still haunting them.
and yes, the content so far is all that and a bag of chips.
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
Graphics are merely the icing on the cake for me. After awhile the eye becomes jaded to even the most spectacular graphics.
The gameplay IMO is the important part and Wish has a concept that interests me. Whether they can pull it off or keep it up if they do remains to be seen.
But they are veering from the mainstream cookie cutter approaches and seem to offer a chance for me to be Anskier the Archmagus. I ask no more from any game then that.
Anskier