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tentonhammer.com reviews Darkfall...

chokepointchokepoint Member Posts: 160
in Darkfall

...and here are their first impressions.

 

"I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."

 

 

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  • gnomad1gnomad1 Member Posts: 151
    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.

    "If you were as smart as you think you are, you would realize that you are an idiot"

  • mach789mach789 Member UncommonPosts: 131
    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     

    Sorry, I play games on MY terms.

  • ElectriceyeElectriceye Member UncommonPosts: 1,171

    In before all the:

    FINALLY someone who understands the greatness of DF! Great review, very accurate, unbiased.

    A very objective review. Well done! That'll show them DF haters. Where are they now??

     

    /sarcasm off.

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  • 0theri0n0theri0n Member UncommonPosts: 114

    Nice read, its refreshing to hear a review with some positives. But im still not convinced. I will wait for the15 day trial (If they ever give them).

  • ElendilasXElendilasX Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     

    "and play it on its own terms" - nice one. Of course it is awesome game if you ignore lack of content... If you like stupid politics system where bunch of kids imagine they do something great and important calling themselves king and emperors...  and zerging enemy cities or ganking newbies.. If thats all you need it is awesome game...

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by gnomad1

    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.



     

    If you read the first impresson again, it will be explained. He didnt do as you just did. Assuming something was wrong just because he didnt understand it.

    He actually played for two hours. Doing many different things and experienced the gameplay. And anyone knows that Eurogamer didnt even bother to play it. They did the same thing as you did.

  • link35link35 Member Posts: 133

    Wow it amazes me that just because it's a positive review you guys just attack it for no reason, eurogamer gave it a score of 2/10 or 4/10 w/e and they only played for what? 9 hours? I'm not a fanboy I haven't even played DF but the "trolls" sure are hypocritical.

    Edit: I'm not actually defending this review or DF I've personally given up on trying to play this game but I hate people that just attack someone's credibility because their opinions are different than your own.

  • mklinicmklinic Member RarePosts: 2,014
    I played for about 2 hours last night. That that's the amount of time that the now infamous Eurogamer reviewer played the game is no coincidence - I wanted to see what I could see in just about the same amount of time.

     

    If readers choose to accept this review despite the short time spent playing, all arguments that EG did not spend enough time in game are moot.

    -mklinic

    "Do something right, no one remembers.
    Do something wrong, no one forgets"
    -from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    This is not a review. Only a first impression. All haters can relax.

  • chokepointchokepoint Member Posts: 160
    Originally posted by gnomad1

    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.

     

    He means that it's obvious, even from only playing for 2 hours, that the game is better than 4/10. Remember, Zitron rated Darkfall a 2/10 and that was only after playing it for 2 and a bit hours, and most of that time was spent in the character creator.

  • KorhindiKorhindi Member CommonPosts: 395
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by gnomad1

    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.



     

    If you read the first impresson again, it will be explained. He didnt do as you just did. Assuming something was wrong just because he didnt understand it.

    He actually played for two hours. Doing many different things and experienced the gameplay. And anyone knows that Eurogamer didnt even bother to play it. They did the same thing as you did.



     

    But Tasos complained that Eurogamer only played for several hours between two accounts.  This guy plays for only two hours and it is all good because he said some good things. 

    This type of hypocracy is why people hate Darkfall.

  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

    *holds fist up to mouth in a trumpet like gesture

    Daaaa Daaaa Daaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    "Charge!"

    Yell the haters as they quickly consume the thread.......

     

     

    Regardless, nice find OP. 

     

    ~Hairysun~

     

    http://www.straightdope.com/

  • chokepointchokepoint Member Posts: 160
    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by gnomad1

    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.



     

    If you read the first impresson again, it will be explained. He didnt do as you just did. Assuming something was wrong just because he didnt understand it.

    He actually played for two hours. Doing many different things and experienced the gameplay. And anyone knows that Eurogamer didnt even bother to play it. They did the same thing as you did.



     

    But Tasos complained that Eurogamer only played for several hours between two accounts.  This guy plays for only two hours and it is all good because he said some good things. 

    This type of hypocracy is why people hate Darkfall.

     

    I am sorry but where are you getting the impression that supporters of Darkfall are saying anything good about this review? All I can see in this thread is haters attacking the review because it is positive about the game. If there is any hypocrisy here it is coming from the hater camp.

  • KorhindiKorhindi Member CommonPosts: 395
    Originally posted by chokepoint

    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by gnomad1

    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.



     

    If you read the first impresson again, it will be explained. He didnt do as you just did. Assuming something was wrong just because he didnt understand it.

    He actually played for two hours. Doing many different things and experienced the gameplay. And anyone knows that Eurogamer didnt even bother to play it. They did the same thing as you did.



     

    But Tasos complained that Eurogamer only played for several hours between two accounts.  This guy plays for only two hours and it is all good because he said some good things. 

    This type of hypocracy is why people hate Darkfall.

     

    I am sorry but where are you getting the impression that supporters of Darkfall are saying anything good about this review? All I can see in this thread is haters attacking the review, which is clearly labelled as a first impressions anyway.

    You might want to read the "First Impression" and the posters' responces to said words... things will become more clear for you.

     

  • mklinicmklinic Member RarePosts: 2,014
    Originally posted by zymurgeist 
    +1 for logic. +10 for not saying "mute"
    If you read the first impresson though there is a very valid point being made. If dying and losing everything, often, bothers you you won't like this game. If your skin is thick enough you might. It's a big if though.

     

    Don't get me wrong. I not arguing the merits of the review/impression itself. There will be enough people who choose to take up that fight already. It just seems, as with anything that has it's fans and detractors I suppose, that there is an ever-moving yard stick with which the standard of 'acceptable' is measured. In this case, a few hours are not enough to dislike the game, but the same amount of time is enough to speak generally positive about it. That just seems a bit hypocritical.

    -mklinic

    "Do something right, no one remembers.
    Do something wrong, no one forgets"
    -from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence

  • chokepointchokepoint Member Posts: 160
    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by chokepoint

    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by gnomad1

    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.



     

    If you read the first impresson again, it will be explained. He didnt do as you just did. Assuming something was wrong just because he didnt understand it.

    He actually played for two hours. Doing many different things and experienced the gameplay. And anyone knows that Eurogamer didnt even bother to play it. They did the same thing as you did.



     

    But Tasos complained that Eurogamer only played for several hours between two accounts.  This guy plays for only two hours and it is all good because he said some good things. 

    This type of hypocracy is why people hate Darkfall.

     

    I am sorry but where are you getting the impression that supporters of Darkfall are saying anything good about this review? All I can see in this thread is haters attacking the review, which is clearly labelled as a first impressions anyway.

    You might want to read the "First Impression" and the posters' responces to said words... things will become more clear for you.

     

     

    I think you're the one who needs to read here. Almost every post since the OP is trying to trash the review.

     

    It's OK though, I realise now you're just another irrational MMORPG.com poster.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    I think we must talk some about the Eurogamer REVIEW, and this Tentonhammer FIRST IMPRESSIONS.

    When we read the Eurogamers review, we could see that the person writing it had not played the game. If he would do the same thing to WoW, about ten million people would notice it. Same with DF, the ones playing noticed it.

    Now Tentonhammer played for the same amout of time. And you can quickly see he did actually play the game. He got the looting "wrong" thou, i guess he will learn how to use the "F" key instead : )

    What Eurogamer did with his two hours ingame, noone knows.

  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,698

    Wasnt TTH the site where AV went to give interviews and updates or whatever? Hmm.. Curious.

    Oh and since when do you have to play a game on its terms? Doesnt that defeat the purpose? " If you want to play this game the way games are meant to be played then it sucks but if you look past the crappiness and can live with the swamp of suckiness then the game is fun! " Rrrriiiight.

    I smell a overly biased review coming where the sole purpose is to clean AVs down stairs thoroughly to try and counter EGs review.

  • KorhindiKorhindi Member CommonPosts: 395
    Originally posted by chokepoint

    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by chokepoint

    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by gnomad1

    Originally posted by chokepoint


    ...and here are their first impressions.
     
    "I won't repeat everyone else's assessment and note that Darkfall has "potential" - it's a solid, enjoyable game if you give it half a chance and play it on its own terms. I haven't played nearly long enough to give DF any kind of objective score, but sorry Eurogamer, this isn't a 4 / 10 game."
     
     



     

    So he hasn't played long enough to give it an objective score but he knows that Eurogamer was wrong??

    Loss of all crediblity in that statement alone.



     

    If you read the first impresson again, it will be explained. He didnt do as you just did. Assuming something was wrong just because he didnt understand it.

    He actually played for two hours. Doing many different things and experienced the gameplay. And anyone knows that Eurogamer didnt even bother to play it. They did the same thing as you did.



     

    But Tasos complained that Eurogamer only played for several hours between two accounts.  This guy plays for only two hours and it is all good because he said some good things. 

    This type of hypocracy is why people hate Darkfall.

     

    I am sorry but where are you getting the impression that supporters of Darkfall are saying anything good about this review? All I can see in this thread is haters attacking the review, which is clearly labelled as a first impressions anyway.

    You might want to read the "First Impression" and the posters' responces to said words... things will become more clear for you.

     

     

    I think you're the one who needs to read here. Almost every post since the OP is trying to trash the review.

     

    It's OK though, I realise now you're just another irrational MMORPG.com poster.



     

    It's OK, I understand you are in denial, but all is good.  I  will spell it out for you.

    The First Impression says many good and informative things about Darkfall.  He also has some reservations, but the tone of the article and the concluding sentence is that Darfall rates far better than the 4 out of 10 Eurogamer gave it.

    Following that, certain posters have said that this "review/impression" is acceptible because of the positive spin, even though the author has only played for 2 hours.

    The Eurogamer crew played for more time, but not by much from what I understand, and all the fans and Tasos said that was not long enough to evulaute the game.  Yet, this Tentonhammer review/impression is cool and the fanbois proclaim the impression valid. 

    Two hours not good enough to bash, but 2 hours is good enough to praise.  THAT is the hypocracy.

  • KorhindiKorhindi Member CommonPosts: 395
    Originally posted by daarco


    I think we must talk some about the Eurogamer REVIEW, and this Tentonhammer FIRST IMPRESSIONS.
    When we read the Eurogamers review, we could see that the person writing it had not played the game. If he would do the same thing to WoW, about ten million people would notice it. Same with DF, the ones playing noticed it.
    Now Tentonhammer played for the same amout of time. And you can quickly see he did actually play the game. He got the looting "wrong" thou, i guess he will learn how to use the "F" key instead : )
    What Eurogamer did with his two hours ingame, noone knows.



     

    Now this I can agree, for I got the feeling that the Eurogamer author hated the game from the get go, and probably before he even played it.  I also agree that the Tentonhammer guy actually played it.

    Still, the fact that 2 hours ain't enough to bash, but is more than enough to praise is what is bugging me.

     

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by daarco


    I think we must talk some about the Eurogamer REVIEW, and this Tentonhammer FIRST IMPRESSIONS.
    When we read the Eurogamers review, we could see that the person writing it had not played the game. If he would do the same thing to WoW, about ten million people would notice it. Same with DF, the ones playing noticed it.
    Now Tentonhammer played for the same amout of time. And you can quickly see he did actually play the game. He got the looting "wrong" thou, i guess he will learn how to use the "F" key instead : )
    What Eurogamer did with his two hours ingame, noone knows.



     

    Now this I can agree, for I got the feeling that the Eurogamer author hated the game from the get go, and probably before he even played it.  I also agree that the Tentonhammer guy actually played it.

    Still, the fact that 2 hours ain't enough to bash, but is more than enough to praise is what is bugging me.

     



     

    IMO, its not the matter of time Eurogamer did spend in Darkfall. Its about they made a review without the whole game as IF they had played it. If they had told us they just had walked around in the noob town and tryed to kill a goblin....then giving it a 2/10 because it was boring. I would have less problem with it.

    And it would be much easier to see it was not a actual review of a MMO.

  • KorhindiKorhindi Member CommonPosts: 395
    Originally posted by daarco

    Originally posted by Korhindi

    Originally posted by daarco


    I think we must talk some about the Eurogamer REVIEW, and this Tentonhammer FIRST IMPRESSIONS.
    When we read the Eurogamers review, we could see that the person writing it had not played the game. If he would do the same thing to WoW, about ten million people would notice it. Same with DF, the ones playing noticed it.
    Now Tentonhammer played for the same amout of time. And you can quickly see he did actually play the game. He got the looting "wrong" thou, i guess he will learn how to use the "F" key instead : )
    What Eurogamer did with his two hours ingame, noone knows.



     

    Now this I can agree, for I got the feeling that the Eurogamer author hated the game from the get go, and probably before he even played it.  I also agree that the Tentonhammer guy actually played it.

    Still, the fact that 2 hours ain't enough to bash, but is more than enough to praise is what is bugging me.

     



     

    IMO, its not the matter of time Eurogamer did spend in Darkfall. Its about they made a review without the whole game as IF they had played it. If they had told us they just had walked around in the noob town and tryed to kill a goblin....then giving it a 2/10 because it was boring. I would have less problem with it.

    And it would be much easier to see it was not a actual review of a MMO.



     

    Fair enough, that.  

  • CzzarreCzzarre Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,742

    The problem is that this game isnt for the typical PVE players. PLayers have to change their mindset of MMOs to really get into DF

    Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
    Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
    Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)

  • B1itzkriegerB1itzkrieger Member Posts: 8

    All that hype for a terrible game with corrupt GMs, i'm glad I didn't hype myself up too much for it...

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798

    I saw it earlier today.  Yes, it's a 1st impressions article, not a review.  We get it.  I think where some people take exceptions are:

    • the title of htis thread is "...reviews Darkfall" and the article refutes the eurogamer review - this smacks of fan propaganda.  Rename the thread to actually match the article and no big deal.
    • after playing for two hours he doesn't think it's a "4/10" game, but he can't give it an" objective" score - I'm assuming that's a typo since I consider 4/10 to be reasonable (i rated it a 5 on the eurogamer scale and 4.25 on the mmorpg.com scale), but 2/10 is pretty is pretty much just mean.  If he had said it's not a 2/10 game, I'd have to agree with that sentiment, even after only 2 hours of playtime

    Regardless, I'm ok with the gist of the article.  It'll be interesting to see if he writes a full review or logs his adventures blog-style, a la Keen.

    ~Ripper

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