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Do people that dislike DF get some theraputic satisfaction from bashing it?
I don't understand why people get more enjoyment from hating something than doing something they actually enjoy. Let the people who enjoy and actually play DF, post on the forums, while the people who dislike it go do something more enjoyable and productive? Some people just cant stand it when others enjoy what they hate. They want to disenfranchise a company that makes a product they don't like. Big deal, no one is holding a gun to your head telling you to buy and play it.
Since when did opinion = fact? DF isnt the messiah, it isnt the bane either. It is what you make of it. I guess some peoples minds havent developed enough to understand this concept. The only reason i defend it is so that someone who might actually ENJOY the game doesnt get led astray by people wanting to see themselves type.
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this is mmorpg.com its what we do
Do you get enjoyment from bashing Darkfall-bashing people?
Yes. Because these are human feelings. I'm glad to see that some people still have them.
Sadly, this is true for far too many people. They bring down games the same way they bring down this forum.
Nicely said, for myself I read all the horror stories out there but gave it a chance because I'd rather make up my own mind on things.
Now I'm in no way a hardcore or even a pvp fan for that matter and expected to hate it but surprisingly I enjoy this game immensely, it's a breath of fresh air from quickbars and chasing levels.
Go on, dip your toes in, you might find you like it.
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. ~Navajo Proverb
ya know if u read your post with anger or other discontented feelings you could assume your saying people who love dark fall should post people who dont shouldnt.
which is lulz worthy :P
but personally tho, people bash it for 3 reasons
1) DF was claimed to be the next great thing (just took forever to go live)
2) DF fans bash every game people play IF said person doesnt agree with them or like DF
3) mmorpg.com forums are a private forum people post what they want. they enjoy ruffling the feathers of the DF fans
granted the 3 points are my own view on it... but stil its quite funny to login once or twice a day and read the flame banter going back and forth, its like drinking a coffee in the morning... cant start your day without it HAHAHa
honestly tho, DF fans caused most of the hate for DF by insinuating anyone who doesnt play/like DF is a carebear and plays WoW, wither or not its the case. if you throw rocks at people they throw back, its the way of the human psycy...
Yeah I'm tired of the troll vs. df fan wars. Look at the anti-df person up there. I see that all the time - omg no since when did this mean that lololzolz - this is a classic example of how they respond to people. "You got it wrong, we are not haters, we are trying to insult the game" Well guess what, that's exactly the same thing.
WHY CAN'T THIS FORUM ACTUALLY BE ABOUT THE GAME AND NOT PEOPLE VOICING THEIR HATE AGAINST IT? I'VE TRIED NUMEROUS TIMES BUT THE THREAD GETS DERAILED BY SOME TROLL!! yes I have caps lock on
What about those that bought the game and felt they bought a lemon. They have as much right to voice their opinion as you do. If i buy a service or a product and i felt cheated or lied to i will go online and give a negative remark. Most recent purchase i made where i did just that was a bisell steamer that clearly said steamer on the package but had no steaming function at all. I went online and gave a negative review of it. My satisfaction? to inform potential buyers what they are actually buying. I could give a rats ass about those that were happy about the product..they are not me. Games are no different. It doesn't matter if it cost 5 bucks or 50.
Furthermore if you are so happy about the game why are you trolling the darkfall section for on MMORPG.com? doesn't Darkfall has it's own forums? Shouldn't you be in the game having fun instead of posting here?. When i buy a MMORPG vanguard is a good example i had tons of fun playing it. I had absolutely no need to take a break to go defend it on forums..why? i was too busy having fun.
Potential buyers needs to hear all sides not just the fanbois that absolutely love the game. The notion that people should just throw down 50 bucks for a game to find out for themselves is idiotic. I always do research before buying games something and I'm quite able to distinguish between a forum troll or valid complaints as i suspect anyone with an average intelligence can. I have to do research because i often spend more than $200 $300 when i decide to shop for games. If i spend that blindly i stand to lose not just 50 bucks but a lot more on games i will only play once.
I would like to know when any criticism became hateing. Who is the ignorant one in this situation?
Granted, there are tons that simply "hate", but really any critisism, oh, excuse me, its really "differing point of view than a fan" seems to equial trolling/hater.
even if you are talking about how clunky the UI is, somthing that isn't opinion. Its an observation.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Potential buyers needs to hear all sides not just the fanbois that absolutely love the game. The notion that people should just throw down 50 bucks for a game to find out for themselves is idiotic. I always do research before buying games something and I'm quite able to distinguish between a forum troll or valid complaints as i suspect anyone with an average intelligence can.
The only way to see if you like something is to try it, no one's opinion, no matter how much research you do will change that.
Ok, so it didn't deliver everything it promised but that doesn't stop it being enjoyable in the state it is now (for some people)
I appreciate you feel cheated and that sux.
And this isn't aimed at you but just deliver the facts as you see them and move on, a lot of people seem to pour raw venom into their hate of this game.
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. ~Navajo Proverb
There's a clear difference between critisism and bashing. If you can't/won't see that for yourself, then there's nothing we can do for you.
i ve never played it but forum activity has been mostly negative coupled with a terrible review i read recently its reinforced my desicion to stat awat from this game . i might try it when theres a free trial just to see if it is as appalling as a lot of people make out .
There's a clear difference between critisism and bashing. If you can't/won't see that for yourself, then there's nothing we can do for you.
I am not the one that is failing to see the distinction.
Look what you just did. Flame much?
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Look what you just did. I said criticism, you immediately called it negative ranting. Good job?
Criticism
Criticism in terms of expectations means democratic judgment over the suitability of a subject for the intended purposes, as opposed to the authoritarian command, which is meant as an absolute realization of the authority's will, thus not open for debate.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Look what you just did. I said criticism, you immediately called it negative ranting. Good job?
This is exactly why I said I wouldn't try to explain the difference to you. Someone attempts to do so, and you get your feelings hurt.
And while I'm typing, "talking about how cluncky the UI is", is absolutely opinion. If you think it's clunky, and I don't think it's clunky, obviously we're talking about our opinion of the UI. Understand?
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Look what you just did. I said criticism, you immediately called it negative ranting. Good job?
Criticism
Criticism in terms of expectations means democratic judgment over the suitability of a subject for the intended purposes, as opposed to the authoritarian command, which is meant as an absolute realization of the authority's will, thus not open for debate.
In my original post i was talking about haters and you said "Since when did criticism become hating" I said haters, you immediatly called it criticism.. NIce work on blaming me for something you did.
Good job?
We darkfall players are tired of trolling posts like this.
Please stop trolling. Thank you.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Look what you just did. I said criticism, you immediately called it negative ranting. Good job?
Criticism
Criticism in terms of expectations means democratic judgment over the suitability of a subject for the intended purposes, as opposed to the authoritarian command, which is meant as an absolute realization of the authority's will, thus not open for debate.
In my original post i was talking about haters and you said "Since when did criticism become hating" I never mentioned critiziscm, only haters. NIce work on blaming me for something you did.
Good job?
um, the very first line of your sentence is about "hating", not haters. pointing that out since you're making a distinction between 'haters' and 'hating'.
so um... stop trolling please.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I didnt enjoy the game and i never bashed it, but i find it very funny that people can be so blind to say its the greatest game they have played, and i think that is what starts allt he hate posts
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Look what you just did. I said criticism, you immediately called it negative ranting. Good job?
This is exactly why I said I wouldn't try to explain the difference to you. Someone attempts to do so, and you get your feelings hurt.
And while I'm typing, "talking about how cluncky the UI is", is absolutely opinion. If you think it's clunky, and I don't think it's clunky, obviously we're talking about our opinion of the UI. Understand?
I dont need anything explaned to me. I all ready said there were people who simply "hate" on a game. My feelings hurt? Dont think so.
A unresponsive UI is an unresponsive UI, that's not opinion, its an observation of implementation. However your opinion is its "Just fine", and that's ok, but a broken, unresponsive UI is not opinion. "Just fine" is simply lowered expectation and acceptance of the UI and its state. A clunky UI is verifiable, "Its just fine" is an opinion and notverifiable, because its subjective..
Some (most) have higher standards.
Now, back to my main point, because you decided to attack me, instead of my argument. I simply stated, that for some reason, ANY criticism is seen as "hateing". This, is also verifiable, you just did it.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
We darkfall players are tired of trolling posts like this.
Please stop trolling. Thank you.
I think I see sarcasm....or a very confused post otherwise.
To answer the OP's question....yes I do. I feel very satisfied when I can bash a very poor MMO because I have played them all. And when they "just have to" churn out multiple POS MMOS....I will say so....
Deal with it
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Look what you just did. I said criticism, you immediately called it negative ranting. Good job?
Criticism
Criticism in terms of expectations means democratic judgment over the suitability of a subject for the intended purposes, as opposed to the authoritarian command, which is meant as an absolute realization of the authority's will, thus not open for debate.
In my original post i was talking about haters and you said "Since when did criticism become hating" I said haters, you immediatly called it criticism.. NIce work on blaming me for something you did.
Good job?
I think blood brought it up because some legitimate critics have been called haters. Ironically though most of my posts are negative criticism towards this game but I have not been flamed much yet.
But what if it IS the greatest game they've ever played? What if the features that made it into the game are exactly the things that they are looking for. Can't they be allowed that? Why the need to tear them down?
But what if it IS the greatest game they've ever played? What if the features that made it into the game are exactly the things that they are looking for. Can't they be allowed that? Why the need to tear them down?
same reason fashion designers tear others down. They have bad taste in something your gonna get made fun of for it.
Critics dont rant negativly 100 times over on the same thing. They are called trolls/haters.
Look what you just did. I said criticism, you immediately called it negative ranting. Good job?
This is exactly why I said I wouldn't try to explain the difference to you. Someone attempts to do so, and you get your feelings hurt.
And while I'm typing, "talking about how cluncky the UI is", is absolutely opinion. If you think it's clunky, and I don't think it's clunky, obviously we're talking about our opinion of the UI. Understand?
I dont need anything explaned to me. I all ready said there were people who simply "hate" on a game. My feelings hurt? Dont think so.
A unresponsive UI is an unresponsive UI, that's not opinion, its an observation of implementation. However your opinion is its "Just fine", and that's ok, but a broken, unresponsive UI is not opinion. "Just fine" is simply lowered expectation and acceptance of the UI and its state. A clunky UI is verifiable, "Its just fine" is an opinion and notverifiable, because its subjective..
Some (most) have higher standards.
Again, what you consider clunky, someone else might not consider clunky. Therefor, it is subjective, and not verifiable.
And where did "unresponsive" come from? You couldn't find a way to win the argument, so you thought you would just change it?
Please try harder next time.