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Aion the WoW killer?

Calind0rCalind0r Member Posts: 735

I've been following Aion since mid 2007, and organizing for it through all the delays :(. I would have never expected Aion to even hit 5 million subscribers world wide....but:

 

Blizzard has walked over a mine in China. They broke of the deal with The9, which is the company that handles the localized version of WoW in China and now The9 have sued Blizzard in the Chinese courts. According to Chinese media all WoW servers have been shut down for transfer of hardware to another company, but that is going to take a couple of weeks. But that?s only a small part of Blizzards problem. Servers going down for 3-4 weeks, making Blizzard loose many customers over to its rivals, especially the newly released Aion, which at the end of May reached a staggering 3,3 million subscribers only after 2 months of its release in China. Blizzard's other headache is that The9 is keeping its 5 million subscribers hostage until the matter is solved. No one really knows when that will happen. The9 and Blizzard are set to meet in Shanghai Pudong's Supreme Court on June 18th, 2009. If matters are not solved and things drags on there is a chance that Blizzard will pull out from China and consequently loose 5 million of its player base.



http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/06/08/world-of-warcraft-on-hiatus-in-china/

http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/World-of-Ming/MLG-Weekend-Preview-Why-This-Man-Can-Potentially-Destroy-WOW



 

 

Aion with 3.3 million subscribers already, a potential 5 million Chinese WoW players will be looking for something to do, perfect time for NCsoft to give out 1 week free trials in China.

lol, Aion can potentially be a WoW killer. 3.3 million subscribers in 6 months and still growing at fast rate is ridiculous, no MMO has come even remotely close to that.

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  • csthaocsthao Member UncommonPosts: 1,123

    WoW, thats pretty much half of WoW's player base.

  • GoodAfternoonGoodAfternoon Member UncommonPosts: 252

    Do you really think that Aion can pull every single WoW subscriber? WoW will not die for many years. Even if the population is cut in half, it would still be making serious money. No game will kill WoW. 

    Rift

  • UngoHumungoUngoHumungo Member Posts: 518

    I think that Aion is gonna go the way of AoC.......this game had potential but my hopes for it were crushed...WoW look appealing right now

    There are times when one must ask themselves is it my passion that truly frightens you? Or your own?

  • dstar.dstar. Member Posts: 474

    Oh boy, another one of these.  Haha.  See you in the next Blizzard MMO.

  • adrianemeryadrianemery Member Posts: 250

    And I bet that the Chinese courts will find against Blizzard, many companies have gone over to China and have contracts broken by Chinese companies and find the courts still finding for the locals.

  • Minion552Minion552 Member Posts: 67

    I doubt Aion will be the end to WoW just as much as I knew AoC and WAR would not either.  Dont get me wrong I dispise WoW with a passion it ruined MMO's in my opnion but Blizzard is good at one thing and that is Marketing thier game and belive me Blizzard will not go down without a fight.

    Aion of what I seen is a good game and I think it will do well. But alone I do not think it will end wow I think the mix of Aion with SW:TOR and even Star Trek online will finish off a huge chunck of WoW's player base in the long run. But for now WoW is still a force in the MMO world and would say they have at least another good year or 2 before it dies off. (there are a few other titles coming out that will help as well)

  • SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401

    Well, This is some funny stuff to read. 

     

    If THE9 really is holding servers offline, it really could push away some people to AION. BUT, WotLK is supposed to release out there soon...Soooo...yeah.

     

    And I can't see Aion being all that big in the US/EU.

  • WaterlilyWaterlily Member UncommonPosts: 3,105

    No, thanks for the laughs though.

  • Calind0rCalind0r Member Posts: 735

    AoC and WAR both had fail written on them long before release. The fact that Aion's content gets compared to WoW which is 5 years old with multiple expansions and patches is a compliment.

     

     

    Aion released in Korea 6 months ago, in China ~2 months ago. It has yet to release in Taiwan (which was big on Lineage, 1 mill L1/2 players from Taiwan)...and it is already at 3.3 million subscribers, AoC and WAR never got much higher than 1 million, before they fell drastically in subs...nothing has come remotely close to doing what Aion is doing right now.

     

    It doesnt have to hit 10 million subscriptions to be a WoW killer, but if it can tie WoW in subs or get remotely close, it will be something amazing that pretty much nobody expected. I doubt anybody expected it to be doing more than half as good as it's doing now.

  • dstar.dstar. Member Posts: 474
    Originally posted by Calind0r


    AoC and WAR both had fail written on them long before release. The fact that Aion's content gets compared to WoW which is 5 years old with multiple expansions and patches is a compliment.
     How is that a compliment?  WoW did it first, not Aion.
     
    Aion released in Korea 6 months ago, in China ~2 months ago. It has yet to release in Taiwan (which was big on Lineage, 1 mill L1/2 players from Taiwan)...and it is already at 3.3 million subscribers, AoC and WAR never got much higher than 1 million, before they fell drastically in subs...nothing has come remotely close to doing what Aion is doing right now.
     
    It doesnt have to hit 10 million subscriptions to be a WoW killer, but if it can tie WoW in subs or get remotely close, it will be something amazing that pretty much nobody expected. I doubt anybody expected it to be doing more than half as good as it's doing now.
     While I hope Aion does well, there is a difference in hitting a subscriber number and actually holding those numbers for years to come, something WoW has done.  You can pretty much count on WoW not dieing.  You can also pretty much count on Blizzards next MMO to be another really really huge power house.  Blizzard has a insanely large fan base that couldn't give a rats ass about any MMOs outside of the company.
     

     

     

  • UngoHumungoUngoHumungo Member Posts: 518
    Originally posted by dstar.

    Originally posted by Calind0r


    AoC and WAR both had fail written on them long before release. The fact that Aion's content gets compared to WoW which is 5 years old with multiple expansions and patches is a compliment.
     How is that a compliment?  WoW did it first, not Aion.
     
    Aion released in Korea 6 months ago, in China ~2 months ago. It has yet to release in Taiwan (which was big on Lineage, 1 mill L1/2 players from Taiwan)...and it is already at 3.3 million subscribers, AoC and WAR never got much higher than 1 million, before they fell drastically in subs...nothing has come remotely close to doing what Aion is doing right now.
     
    It doesnt have to hit 10 million subscriptions to be a WoW killer, but if it can tie WoW in subs or get remotely close, it will be something amazing that pretty much nobody expected. I doubt anybody expected it to be doing more than half as good as it's doing now.
     While I hope Aion does well, there is a difference in hitting a subscriber number and actually holding those numbers for years to come, something WoW has done.  You can pretty much count on WoW not dieing.  You can also pretty much count on Blizzards next MMO to be another really really huge power house.  Blizzard has a insanely large fan base that couldn't give a rats ass about any MMOs outside of the company.
     

     

     

    Agree completely

    There are times when one must ask themselves is it my passion that truly frightens you? Or your own?

  • WarpigletWarpiglet Member Posts: 78

    WoW is killing itself, the game has steadily gone down hill for years and the with WOTLK it fell off a cliff. All the old school players have abandoned the game laughing at the direction blizzard took it. The player base currently is lowskill children.

    WoW is now a kiddie game for children with low spec computers in their bedrooms, a cheap babysitting service.

  • Calind0rCalind0r Member Posts: 735

    You could say the same with NCsoft, although not as big as Blizzard, they've had 1 million + subscribers since 1999. The first game to ever hit 1million + subscribers, and it hasn't gone below that number since.

     

    If you want to get into that discussion, WoW did nothing first, absolutely every non-trivial aspect/feature of WoW has been done in some other game before, which is no different than Aion, Aion is just more modern.

     

    And it had nothing to do with WoW doing it first, its the fact that a game that hasn't even finished it's release is being compared to one thats been out for years with lots of expansion content. You could also compare it to vanilla WoW, pre battlegrounds if you want a real lol.

  • beeker255beeker255 Member UncommonPosts: 351

    Even though I can't stand WOW personally becuase I think in some ways it ruined how I like MMO's....

     

    There is no way it will kill WOW....I really hope AION is fun though becuase I am looking for a good MMO. But I got to keep it real it will be hard to kill WOW not that anyone should want WOW to die.

    Only effect AION will have on WOW? expect a flying combat expansion at somepoint in WOW :)

     

  • BigMangoBigMango Member UncommonPosts: 1,821
    Originally posted by Calind0r


     perfect time for NCsoft to give out 1 week free trials in China.

     

    They already have 15 days free trials.

    Everytime they launch new servers (they have 118 in China already) they are free to play for 15 days. You can download the client and login to the new servers right now if you want.

     

  • orlacorlac Member Posts: 549

    How original. Another "WOW KIller" thread..........c'mon folks let's get creative here.

  • virox69virox69 Member Posts: 90

    This game will not kill wow

     

    That being said ..and you can save this quote for future refrence ...."Aion will be the #2 MMO within  6 months easily..... after its released everywhere they plan to release it".

    This game wasnt even on my radar...especially after the AoC and WAR failures.

    But this game delivers on almost all things I want  in an MMO

    1. meaningful PVP

    2. Some PVE raiding

    3. Keep seiges

    4. decent graphics

    5. runs good on low-ebd machines even in mass pvp

    6. crafted gear is better or atleast competitive to mob dropped gear...the PVP sets you can get are the elite gear, but they will take alot of time to aquire

    And most important and completely the opposite of what most are complaining about is character customization

    lets just use a full set of goldgear as an example....which I might add can be crafted from blue recipes that critted on creation

    Chest = 4 manastones of your choosing ( +85hp or +21 crit or +21 sheild block or +21 evasion or magic boost or mana points or parry or accuracy physical or magical...ect..ect you get the point.

    Also one Godstone...these are truely some powerful procs and such

    Legs =4 manastones and one godstone

    pauldrons=4 manastones, one godstone

    gloves 4 manastones one godstone

    boots =same

    each weapon or shield = same

    plus 5 skills to choose to have slotted as stigmas......first 2 at lvl 20

    plus different skills to choose form AP points.(PVP points) that are really powerful.

    2 me this is alot of  customization...the possibilties are endless  want to be a solo pvp Assassin that can get in a group 2-3 shot a mage and live too get away...go all evasion, nearly unhittable.....group alot? go all crit......or mix the 2 or give him hit points like a tank.

    Same can be said for most classes....there will be the cookie-cutter versions of best dps for raids but pvp situations change things and you need to spec for your perticuliar needs for what you liek to do as a player..

  • Calind0rCalind0r Member Posts: 735

    Its already the number 2 running MMO, and number 3 ever behind L2, I'm sure it will last too, most game only have the content of Aion after they've been out for like a year.

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880
    Originally posted by Warpiglet


    WoW is killing itself, the game has steadily gone down hill for years and the with WOTLK it fell off a cliff. All the old school players have abandoned the game laughing at the direction blizzard took it. The player base currently is lowskill children.
    WoW is now a kiddie game for children with low spec computers in their bedrooms, a cheap babysitting service.

    its almost funny how wrong you are with every statement you have made but I think everyone who has read your post can already point that much out.

  • ghostinfinitghostinfinit Member UncommonPosts: 552

    here's a thread topic I've never seen

  • joejccva71joejccva71 Member UncommonPosts: 848

    I don't think it will kill WoW, however you guys are missing something here. Aion already has 3.3 million subs right? The game hasn't even been released to NA and EU yet. Sure there are people from NA/EU that are playing the Chinese versions, but not as many as you think.

    Aion while not the perfect MMO, has good potential. It has some issues but it's still in beta and this past beta weekend I don't think I've ever seen as many people in an MMO at one time as I did the past 2 days.

    People keep comparing new MMO's to WoW are wasting their time. WoW is a huge marketing campaign and as long as Ozzy and Captain Kirk continue to do commercials and have Blizzard paying them alot of money to do so, WoW will continue to be popular. WoW will die eventually, but it's not going to be from one MMO.

    Aion, Mortal Online, SW:TOR, and Star Trek will make WoW fall off the face of the earth. Yes it's going to be take all of them to do it.

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    see the thing is most wow players actually sub to more than one game. there is no such thing as a wow killer. it will decline on its own and then blizz will release its next big block buster smash.

  • joejccva71joejccva71 Member UncommonPosts: 848


    Originally posted by Frostbite05
    see the thing is most wow players actually sub to more than one game. there is no such thing as a wow killer. it will decline on its own and then blizz will release its next big block buster smash.

    Would be interesting to see what that is. :)

    Maybe they'll use better graphics in their next MMO.

  • kazmokazmo Member Posts: 715

    I don't care if any game kills WoW. The only thing I know is that I won't be playing a game that does kill it, or is WoW for that matter.



    So long as the "WoW Killer" keeps that multi-million crowd of less-desirables walled up from the rest of the MMO community.

  • WarpigletWarpiglet Member Posts: 78
    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    Originally posted by Warpiglet


    WoW is killing itself, the game has steadily gone down hill for years and the with WOTLK it fell off a cliff. All the old school players have abandoned the game laughing at the direction blizzard took it. The player base currently is lowskill children.
    WoW is now a kiddie game for children with low spec computers in their bedrooms, a cheap babysitting service.

    its almost funny how wrong you are with every statement you have made but I think everyone who has read your post can already point that much out.

    I highly doubt you were playing WoW when it was released. You needed to experience WoW in the begining to see how far it has fallen. I have a few hundred email addresses of members of my former epic guilds and you know what, like 5 of them still play and 2 of them play with their kids to make them happy (kinda like family time). You know what else, we all will be playing AION. NA WoW subscription is dropping like a rock. The only impressive numbers WoW really has was in China, but now..... lol

     

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