Their FAQ is weak. I have so many questions. What happens to the favor system? Are the perks going to be bought now? What happens to my current characters if I choose to use the Free to Play option? What's the new class? What's going to happen to Mod 9? How much will a dungeon cost? Will any of the currently dropped gear be removed to encourage people to buy from the cash shop?
You'll gain instant access to this "new DDO" when it enters beta . If you're subcribed in DDO US, you're already VIP and will see for yourself. But that's not all, you'll work on this game and flesh out the details.
PS to 2 posts above - yes, F2P and level up to 20 -> to the cap - without paying.
I think the point is what happens if you stop paying a subscription, if you dont lose some access, you might as well just pay for one month per module. If you do then is it better to pay for what you want and never again.
Interesting times, almost sad we in the EU are being left in our own VIP only club. Unless, as has been hinted we may get mod 9 before the US beta ends, although somehow I doubt it.
Their FAQ is weak. I have so many questions. What happens to the favor system? Are the perks going to be bought now? What happens to my current characters if I choose to use the Free to Play option? What's the new class? What's going to happen to Mod 9? How much will a dungeon cost? Will any of the currently dropped gear be removed to encourage people to buy from the cash shop?
MOD 9 is obviously now a lie. It will be lumped in with the future release of the new version of the game. Mod 10 has already been renamed Update 1, which Fernando mentions.
I would guess many things you played to earn will be purchasable. They can not just get by with a cash shop selling potions, EXP boosters and rez clickies.
You can pay to beta test for them, but if anyone thinks you will have much say or be helping them work on the game they are nuts. If they are really doing all of this in 3 months from now if not less,they said midsummer, changes will be minimal and stress testing will be most of what you do for them.
The FAQ is weak because in typical Turbine fashion the details are not ready. This is Turbine, they do not ever seem to have the full plan in place.
Ok, so when this rolls out, if I have the box but inactive account, will I be able to install, update and play for free?
Yes but I would imagine with unlimited access, but limited content. It would appear you either need a subscription for the full content or to buy it in bits.
Yes, and all this will be able to buy through "points". Additionally, you'll be rewarded with those points by playing game - completing some "achievements", etc. I don't think you'd spend it on inv boosting your XP, while you could spend it on more dungeons... pretty smart.
No details to date, and beta will be under NDA. I think I'll subscribe to DDO US to be granted full beta acces, and to play new DDO just like I play old.
Sarfr I do not think joining DDO US is an option until the release of the new game.
I was expecting this to happen eventually. It basically feels like Guild Wars but having to pay for it.
And what about those 3 paid expansions and other "in game" items or slots you could buy in this game?
Without it, you can't experience "full" GW. It's pretty fair though.
You are missing the very obvious point. You could play GW after the initial purchase and never buy anything and still have planty of game to play. DDO did not offer that. Had DDO went GW model fromt he start DDO would have done expansions over the last three years as well.
Their FAQ is weak. I have so many questions. What happens to the favor system? Are the perks going to be bought now? What happens to my current characters if I choose to use the Free to Play option? What's the new class? What's going to happen to Mod 9? How much will a dungeon cost? Will any of the currently dropped gear be removed to encourage people to buy from the cash shop?
You'll gain instant access to this "new DDO" when it enters beta . If you're subcribed in DDO US, you're already VIP and will see for yourself. But that's not all, you'll work on this game and flesh out the details.
PS to 2 posts above - yes, F2P and level up to 20 -> to the cap - without paying.
I think the point is what happens if you stop paying a subscription, if you dont lose some access, you might as well just pay for one month per module. If you do then is it better to pay for what you want and never again.
Interesting times, almost sad we in the EU are being left in our own VIP only club. Unless, as has been hinted we may get mod 9 before the US beta ends, although somehow I doubt it.
I think what is written says:
1. F2P - You can play free and restricted like that:
2. You can have sub and all access with it ("VIP). Once it ends, you're normal FP2'er.
3. You can buy all benefits of subbed "VIP" access, by one each time, until you have full F2P game. Minus new quests coming in future updates, which subscription gives you instantly, but if you want F2P and play them - you must buy them via points. What you buy IS PERMANENT. You don't need to be VIP, it's F2P with all you've bought.
So, if you don't want to subscribe and don't want specific new quests which *you heard* are crappy, you don't need to buy them. You can even *try* those quests being subbed for one month, and then deciding is it worth buying to have it F2P from now on.
So let me get this straight, now people will be paying more, for less? Don't think you are going to get more updates than in the past. This move is the final death rattle. If it fails to bring in a new bump to DDO (and it will fail, btw) they have no other option but to shut off the development entirely. Although looking at the past 9 months you could easily suspect that have already done this.
So let me get this straight, now people will be paying more, for less? Don't think you are going to get more updates than in the past. This move is the final death rattle. If it fails to bring in a new bump to DDO (and it will fail, btw) they have no other option but to shut off the development entirely. Although looking at the past 9 months you could easily suspect that have already done this.
Still no Mod 9, huh?
What a crock.
Oh no. This will almost for certain make player base larger. That will turn into more income - we all DDO players know that once you're hooked, competition (other MMO games) is lacking.
And you can stay subscribed like before, but - in my own humble opinion, with experience with F2P games now - they will get more cash which may result in more quests.
Now, as quests will be available to buy, it will the best thing Turbine can do to get more cash - more quality content could become a priority for one simple reason... People don't want to buy crap, right?
So, either Turbine provides good content and people are paying, or they will sink . What could motivate them better, hehe.
Judging by questions/complaints from people who are already subbed to the game earlier in this thread, I'd say this is just a gambit to attract new players. They already have a great deal with LotRO price-wise, and I think they can survive by making most of their income from Middle Earth. However, if this works out well and it's F2P, even with an item shop, I think I'll check it out. The game wasn't that bad when I tried the free trial a while back.
So let me get this straight, now people will be paying more, for less? Don't think you are going to get more updates than in the past. This move is the final death rattle. If it fails to bring in a new bump to DDO (and it will fail, btw) they have no other option but to shut off the development entirely. Although looking at the past 9 months you could easily suspect that have already done this.
Still no Mod 9, huh?
What a crock.
Oh no. This will almost for certain make player base larger. This will become more income. And you can stay subscribed like before, but - in my own humble opinion, with experience with F2P games now - they will get more cash which may result in more quests.
As quests will be available to buy, it will the best thing Turbine can do to get more cash - more quality content. People don't want to buy crap, right?
Don't mind signetring, he just whines about everything and anything Turbine does but then pays them money, you know one of those people.
It will certainly increase the player base since people can play for absolutly free. Most of the people who sub now will probably keep paying the same with VIP on at least one of their accounts if they have multiple. A decent amount of people will certainly buy some items here and there. So overall, at least at the start, I would expect it to shoot up their profits. Larger profits will bring more content.
The real question will be to see how this will do in a year or so when the items have all been tryed out and all the one time purchases have been bought.
Oh no. This will almost for certain make player base larger. That will turn into more income - we all DDO players know that once you're hooked, competition (other MMO games) is lacking. And you can stay subscribed like before, but - in my own humble opinion, with experience with F2P games now - they will get more cash which may result in more quests. Now, as quests will be available to buy, it will the best thing Turbine can do to get more cash - more quality content could become a priority for one simple reason... People don't want to buy crap, right? So, either Turbine provides good content and people are paying, or they will sink . What could motivate them better, hehe.
Sarr, with all due respect, you are completely delusional. All they are doing is re branding the same rejected and failed POS that was near death before. Judging by the complex RMT crap they have come up with it will just fracture the already microscopic community making find groups a new exercise in finding people who have paid for the content you want to do.
What do you do when you're a company with two of the greatest fantasy based IPs history and want new players to try at least one? Make one free! And instead of your games budding heads for subscriptions or having to look for a MMO to combat the ever growing F2P models making their way to the west, you have two top-grade MMOs on the playing field and a F2P MMO that is head and shoulders above the rest of the others out there.
Yeah that wouldn't hurt them to do that one bit, thanks for the bone Turbine!
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But what happens to when you go from VIP to Free? do I loose access to 8 of my characters? Do I loose everything I have in my Shared Bank Account? Things like that.....
If you downgrade to a Free player from VIP, when you first log in you'll be prompted to pick which characters you'd like to have access to.
Warforged and Monk characters will not be available unless you purchase access to that race/class as those are premium choices. The shared bank account is also a premium item, so you would need to make the one-time purchase to access it as well.
If in the future you buy more character slots, you'll be able to choose which of your previous characters you want available.
Oh no. This will almost for certain make player base larger. That will turn into more income - we all DDO players know that once you're hooked, competition (other MMO games) is lacking. And you can stay subscribed like before, but - in my own humble opinion, with experience with F2P games now - they will get more cash which may result in more quests. Now, as quests will be available to buy, it will the best thing Turbine can do to get more cash - more quality content could become a priority for one simple reason... People don't want to buy crap, right? So, either Turbine provides good content and people are paying, or they will sink . What could motivate them better, hehe.
Sarr, with all due respect, you are completely delusional. All they are doing is re branding the same rejected and failed POS that was near death before. Judging by the complex RMT crap they have come up with it will just fracture the already microscopic community making find groups a new exercise in finding people who have paid for the content you want to do.
Perhaps 3 years ago, prior to launch, this could have worked but slicing up and proven turd into many small turd pieces and trying to sell them piece by piece is hardly a recipe for success.
I won't be due. Call me delusional, and I call you completely ignoratnt. This is only your opinion, and I bet you play on DDO EU, yes? I know of one person who sees it like that. And no, I think you're wrong.
All you can do I'm afraid, is think I am wrong as well. Our opinions aren't better from each other, they're just different. And they're just opinions.
I disagree Sarr, while our preferences may be equal even if different our opinions can be better or worse. Some opinions are based on emotion or desire and are not accurate in terms of assesing relity, others are more reasoned and based on true circumstances and therefore better.
I have been saying MOD 9 was vaporware/BS and now that is shown to be 100% true. I have been saying this game is on life suport and this desperate a move shows that to be 100% true. I have been saying that vast and mysterious and super secret would be nothing but rebranding or other marketing BS and that is now show to be 100% true. DDO is now just a testbed for an RMT model Turbine hopes to use in other games, be it Harry Potter or LotrO or whatever - this DDO Unlimited BS is not going to grow DDO and I doubt seriously Turbine even thinks it will. If anything they figure they can maybe get a bit more revenue out of the existing folks or keep whatever cash coming in they need to pay for this testbed.
I disagree Sarr, while our preferences may be equal even if different our opinions can be better or worse. Some opinions are based on emotion or desire and are not accurate in terms of assesing relity, others are more reasoned and based on true circumstances and therefore better.
I have been saying MOD 9 was vaporware/BS and now that is shown to be 100% true. I have been saying this game is on life suport and this desperate a move shows that to be 100% true. I have been saying that vast and mysterious and super secret would be nothing but rebranding or other marketing BS and that is now show to be 100% true. DDO is now just a testbed for an RMT model Turbine hopes to use in other games, be it Harry Potter or LotrO or whatever - this DDO Unlimited BS is not going to grow DDO and I doubt seriously Turbine even thinks it will. If anything they figure they can maybe get a bit more revenue out of the existing folks or keep whatever cash coming in they need to pay for this testbed.
This is crazy talk. DnD online was talked about by developers and players in beta as going the buy a module route. DDO did not work under a subscription model, this will likely do wonders for this title. And they have already said many many times this will not happen in LOTRO.
They do however have a RMT based MMO in the works, but who doesn't?
Please avoid sensationalism.
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So let me get this straight, now people will be paying more, for less?
Nope, those who continue with their subscriptions are not paying any more then they had been and will actually be getting more in the new VIP system. The players who are new and don't want to pay for subscriptions are not paying anything and getting quite a bit of access to the game world where they would have been limited to a 10 day trial beforehand. Win-Win
I'm not sure how you're unable to comprehend this.
The addition of an Item Mall (ie, DDO Store) is going to be a mechanism to allow players to purchase enhancements and content packages where they normally wouldn't have any option at all; ie, non paying customer couldn't even play the game at all beforehand. The bright side is if you're already a subscriber you're going to continue getting environments for free and new classes through unlocks.
The real kick in the nutts is Mod9's update that was alledgedly to take place in March is now appearing to be a complete scam to retain customers through the last several months when Turbine well ahead that it was never going to be made public until this new system had gone live. If there's any reason to be upset this would be it.
I was expecting this to happen eventually. It basically feels like Guild Wars but having to pay for it.
And what about those 3 paid expansions and other "in game" items or slots you could buy in this game?
Without it, you can't experience "full" GW. It's pretty fair though.
You are missing the very obvious point. You could play GW after the initial purchase and never buy anything and still have planty of game to play. DDO did not offer that. Had DDO went GW model fromt he start DDO would have done expansions over the last three years as well.
Guild Wars uses a "pay-for-content" model, which I personally think would have been best for this game since start as they could produce modules based on payment, pretty much like GW expansions or campaigns.
I got to see what they will sell in their item mall, if the game is more to the pay-for-content side than the pay-to-own I will surely be playing it as a secondary game.
Pay-for-content is my favorite kind of model as I pay for content and not for pwnage or balance-break or change items, I like the idea to see developers pumping new quality content if they want more money.
i have a feeling they wont take the standard Item mall..thinking like Guild Wars but the main game is free while you play for the content that you want......
hopefully it is like this...i have a feeling this will be sucessful and i will join in on the fun in a heart beat
at least now i wont have the make another trial account =]
This is crazy talk. DnD online was talked about by developers and players in beta as going the buy a module route. DDO did not work under a subscription model, this will likely do wonders for this title. And they have already said many many times this will not happen in LOTRO. They do however have a RMT based MMO in the works, but who doesn't? Please avoid sensationalism.
DDO would have been good under a buy a module model, like Guild Wars. But this is not that, this is some really convoluted attempt to get people to pay for what they have or pay for what is good or something, it doesn't really make a lot of sense at this point really. Nevertheless, if you take and allready puny playerbase and carve it up even more (have you bought WW, no? Sorry, LFM who has bought WW, etc, etc, etc) and add all of really nothing then what should anyone give the game a second look? It isn't like DDO hasn't had free trials forever, people just look and left - so the problem remains that people do not lihe the game as they made it and that is not changing.
Wonders? come on - a 3 year old game that failed to capitalize on one of the greatest IPs in the genre now shuffles up the same stuff and sells it piecemeal and that will equal growth how? Seriously, this is nothing but a testbed for Potter or LotRO or something else and has zero chance to be anything more than what is was, a miserably small niche game that most people have left for dead.
As for what Turbine has said many times - how many times did they promise MOD 9 only to find out now that was all a bunch of BS as MOD 9 was clearly fully intended to be rolled out as the RMT DDO. You are truly a naive and gullible sap if you believe jack from Turbine.
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I'm actually excited about this announcement, i'm not a subscriber but i signed up for the Beta anyways, the only thing i'm ticked off about is that they are taking warforged away from the F2Ps, but you can purchase the race, so if it isn't to bad i can make my warforged rogue later on down the line.
I think this will bring more people into the game, since it seems you can play most of the main line areas and go to lvl cap (unless they say something different). It might not save the game, but it will give it a bit of a population boost from the people who need a game to play during the summer, or from their main subscription games.
Nope, those who continue with their subscriptions are not paying any more then they had been and will actually be getting more in the new VIP system. The players who are new and don't want to pay for subscriptions are not paying anything and getting quite a bit of access to the game world where they would have been limited to a 10 day trial beforehand. Win-Win I'm not sure how you're unable to comprehend this. The addition of an Item Mall (ie, DDO Store) is going to be a mechanism to allow players to purchase enhancements and content packages where they normally wouldn't have any option at all; ie, non paying customer couldn't even play the game at all beforehand. The bright side is if you're already a subscriber you're going to continue getting environments for free and new classes through unlocks. The real kick in the nutts is Mod9's update that was alledgedly to take place in March is now appearing to be a complete scam to retain customers through the last several months when Turbine well ahead that it was never going to be made public until this new system had gone live. If there's any reason to be upset this would be it.
Oh yes. But if you're subcribed to DDO US, you will be invited to closed beta before others. So, one could say, you'll have that Mod 9 you're waiting for plus knowlegde about "new DDO" before all players over the world. You will, to some degree, help to create this new F2P mmo model .
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You'll gain instant access to this "new DDO" when it enters beta
. If you're subcribed in DDO US, you're already VIP and will see for yourself. But that's not all, you'll work on this game and flesh out the details.
PS to 2 posts above - yes, F2P and level up to 20 -> to the cap - without paying.
I think the point is what happens if you stop paying a subscription, if you dont lose some access, you might as well just pay for one month per module. If you do then is it better to pay for what you want and never again.
Interesting times, almost sad we in the EU are being left in our own VIP only club. Unless, as has been hinted we may get mod 9 before the US beta ends, although somehow I doubt it.
MOD 9 is obviously now a lie. It will be lumped in with the future release of the new version of the game. Mod 10 has already been renamed Update 1, which Fernando mentions.
I would guess many things you played to earn will be purchasable. They can not just get by with a cash shop selling potions, EXP boosters and rez clickies.
You can pay to beta test for them, but if anyone thinks you will have much say or be helping them work on the game they are nuts. If they are really doing all of this in 3 months from now if not less,they said midsummer, changes will be minimal and stress testing will be most of what you do for them.
The FAQ is weak because in typical Turbine fashion the details are not ready. This is Turbine, they do not ever seem to have the full plan in place.
Yes but I would imagine with unlimited access, but limited content. It would appear you either need a subscription for the full content or to buy it in bits.
Yes, and all this will be able to buy through "points". Additionally, you'll be rewarded with those points by playing game - completing some "achievements", etc. I don't think you'd spend it on inv boosting your XP, while you could spend it on more dungeons... pretty smart.
No details to date, and beta will be under NDA. I think I'll subscribe to DDO US to be granted full beta acces, and to play new DDO just like I play old.
Sarfr I do not think joining DDO US is an option until the release of the new game.
And what about those 3 paid expansions and other "in game" items or slots you could buy in this game?
Without it, you can't experience "full" GW. It's pretty fair though.
You are missing the very obvious point. You could play GW after the initial purchase and never buy anything and still have planty of game to play. DDO did not offer that. Had DDO went GW model fromt he start DDO would have done expansions over the last three years as well.
You'll gain instant access to this "new DDO" when it enters beta
. If you're subcribed in DDO US, you're already VIP and will see for yourself. But that's not all, you'll work on this game and flesh out the details.
PS to 2 posts above - yes, F2P and level up to 20 -> to the cap - without paying.
I think the point is what happens if you stop paying a subscription, if you dont lose some access, you might as well just pay for one month per module. If you do then is it better to pay for what you want and never again.
Interesting times, almost sad we in the EU are being left in our own VIP only club. Unless, as has been hinted we may get mod 9 before the US beta ends, although somehow I doubt it.
I think what is written says:
1. F2P - You can play free and restricted like that:
2. You can have sub and all access with it ("VIP). Once it ends, you're normal FP2'er.
3. You can buy all benefits of subbed "VIP" access, by one each time, until you have full F2P game. Minus new quests coming in future updates, which subscription gives you instantly, but if you want F2P and play them - you must buy them via points. What you buy IS PERMANENT. You don't need to be VIP, it's F2P with all you've bought.
So, if you don't want to subscribe and don't want specific new quests which *you heard* are crappy, you don't need to buy them. You can even *try* those quests being subbed for one month, and then deciding is it worth buying to have it F2P from now on.
For me, this is exactly what is revealed to date.
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So let me get this straight, now people will be paying more, for less? Don't think you are going to get more updates than in the past. This move is the final death rattle. If it fails to bring in a new bump to DDO (and it will fail, btw) they have no other option but to shut off the development entirely. Although looking at the past 9 months you could easily suspect that have already done this.
Still no Mod 9, huh?
What a crock.
Oh no. This will almost for certain make player base larger. That will turn into more income - we all DDO players know that once you're hooked, competition (other MMO games) is lacking.
And you can stay subscribed like before, but - in my own humble opinion, with experience with F2P games now - they will get more cash which may result in more quests.
Now, as quests will be available to buy, it will the best thing Turbine can do to get more cash - more quality content could become a priority for one simple reason... People don't want to buy crap, right?
So, either Turbine provides good content and people are paying, or they will sink
. What could motivate them better, hehe.
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Judging by questions/complaints from people who are already subbed to the game earlier in this thread, I'd say this is just a gambit to attract new players. They already have a great deal with LotRO price-wise, and I think they can survive by making most of their income from Middle Earth. However, if this works out well and it's F2P, even with an item shop, I think I'll check it out. The game wasn't that bad when I tried the free trial a while back.
Oh no. This will almost for certain make player base larger. This will become more income. And you can stay subscribed like before, but - in my own humble opinion, with experience with F2P games now - they will get more cash which may result in more quests.
As quests will be available to buy, it will the best thing Turbine can do to get more cash - more quality content. People don't want to buy crap, right?
Don't mind signetring, he just whines about everything and anything Turbine does but then pays them money, you know one of those people.
It will certainly increase the player base since people can play for absolutly free. Most of the people who sub now will probably keep paying the same with VIP on at least one of their accounts if they have multiple. A decent amount of people will certainly buy some items here and there. So overall, at least at the start, I would expect it to shoot up their profits. Larger profits will bring more content.
The real question will be to see how this will do in a year or so when the items have all been tryed out and all the one time purchases have been bought.
So not rolling it out to the EU means that new EU players will just go to the US f2p version?
Bit short sighted as the US servers could suck all the new EU customers and the existing EU subscribers get the short end of the stick.
Sarr, with all due respect, you are completely delusional. All they are doing is re branding the same rejected and failed POS that was near death before. Judging by the complex RMT crap they have come up with it will just fracture the already microscopic community making find groups a new exercise in finding people who have paid for the content you want to do.
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What do you do when you're a company with two of the greatest fantasy based IPs history and want new players to try at least one? Make one free! And instead of your games budding heads for subscriptions or having to look for a MMO to combat the ever growing F2P models making their way to the west, you have two top-grade MMOs on the playing field and a F2P MMO that is head and shoulders above the rest of the others out there.
Yeah that wouldn't hurt them to do that one bit, thanks for the bone Turbine!
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on the forums it was stated they will be explaining more about VIP to FREE in the near future
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VIP to FREE
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But what happens to when you go from VIP to Free? do I loose access to 8 of my characters? Do I loose everything I have in my Shared Bank Account? Things like that.....
If you downgrade to a Free player from VIP, when you first log in you'll be prompted to pick which characters you'd like to have access to.
Warforged and Monk characters will not be available unless you purchase access to that race/class as those are premium choices. The shared bank account is also a premium item, so you would need to make the one-time purchase to access it as well.
If in the future you buy more character slots, you'll be able to choose which of your previous characters you want available.
Hope that explains everything!
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Sarr, with all due respect, you are completely delusional. All they are doing is re branding the same rejected and failed POS that was near death before. Judging by the complex RMT crap they have come up with it will just fracture the already microscopic community making find groups a new exercise in finding people who have paid for the content you want to do.
Perhaps 3 years ago, prior to launch, this could have worked but slicing up and proven turd into many small turd pieces and trying to sell them piece by piece is hardly a recipe for success.
I won't be due. Call me delusional, and I call you completely ignoratnt. This is only your opinion, and I bet you play on DDO EU, yes? I know of one person who sees it like that. And no, I think you're wrong.
All you can do I'm afraid, is think I am wrong as well. Our opinions aren't better from each other, they're just different. And they're just opinions.
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I disagree Sarr, while our preferences may be equal even if different our opinions can be better or worse. Some opinions are based on emotion or desire and are not accurate in terms of assesing relity, others are more reasoned and based on true circumstances and therefore better.
I have been saying MOD 9 was vaporware/BS and now that is shown to be 100% true. I have been saying this game is on life suport and this desperate a move shows that to be 100% true. I have been saying that vast and mysterious and super secret would be nothing but rebranding or other marketing BS and that is now show to be 100% true. DDO is now just a testbed for an RMT model Turbine hopes to use in other games, be it Harry Potter or LotrO or whatever - this DDO Unlimited BS is not going to grow DDO and I doubt seriously Turbine even thinks it will. If anything they figure they can maybe get a bit more revenue out of the existing folks or keep whatever cash coming in they need to pay for this testbed.
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This is crazy talk. DnD online was talked about by developers and players in beta as going the buy a module route. DDO did not work under a subscription model, this will likely do wonders for this title. And they have already said many many times this will not happen in LOTRO.
They do however have a RMT based MMO in the works, but who doesn't?
Please avoid sensationalism.
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Nope, those who continue with their subscriptions are not paying any more then they had been and will actually be getting more in the new VIP system. The players who are new and don't want to pay for subscriptions are not paying anything and getting quite a bit of access to the game world where they would have been limited to a 10 day trial beforehand. Win-Win
I'm not sure how you're unable to comprehend this.
The addition of an Item Mall (ie, DDO Store) is going to be a mechanism to allow players to purchase enhancements and content packages where they normally wouldn't have any option at all; ie, non paying customer couldn't even play the game at all beforehand. The bright side is if you're already a subscriber you're going to continue getting environments for free and new classes through unlocks.
The real kick in the nutts is Mod9's update that was alledgedly to take place in March is now appearing to be a complete scam to retain customers through the last several months when Turbine well ahead that it was never going to be made public until this new system had gone live. If there's any reason to be upset this would be it.
Strange to hear you say that seeing as how I've played Mod 9.
That's like asking AgtSmith not to breath.
And what about those 3 paid expansions and other "in game" items or slots you could buy in this game?
Without it, you can't experience "full" GW. It's pretty fair though.
You are missing the very obvious point. You could play GW after the initial purchase and never buy anything and still have planty of game to play. DDO did not offer that. Had DDO went GW model fromt he start DDO would have done expansions over the last three years as well.
Guild Wars uses a "pay-for-content" model, which I personally think would have been best for this game since start as they could produce modules based on payment, pretty much like GW expansions or campaigns.
I got to see what they will sell in their item mall, if the game is more to the pay-for-content side than the pay-to-own I will surely be playing it as a secondary game.
Pay-for-content is my favorite kind of model as I pay for content and not for pwnage or balance-break or change items, I like the idea to see developers pumping new quality content if they want more money.
i have a feeling they wont take the standard Item mall..thinking like Guild Wars but the main game is free while you play for the content that you want......
hopefully it is like this...i have a feeling this will be sucessful and i will join in on the fun in a heart beat
at least now i wont have the make another trial account =]
DDO would have been good under a buy a module model, like Guild Wars. But this is not that, this is some really convoluted attempt to get people to pay for what they have or pay for what is good or something, it doesn't really make a lot of sense at this point really. Nevertheless, if you take and allready puny playerbase and carve it up even more (have you bought WW, no? Sorry, LFM who has bought WW, etc, etc, etc) and add all of really nothing then what should anyone give the game a second look? It isn't like DDO hasn't had free trials forever, people just look and left - so the problem remains that people do not lihe the game as they made it and that is not changing.
Wonders? come on - a 3 year old game that failed to capitalize on one of the greatest IPs in the genre now shuffles up the same stuff and sells it piecemeal and that will equal growth how? Seriously, this is nothing but a testbed for Potter or LotRO or something else and has zero chance to be anything more than what is was, a miserably small niche game that most people have left for dead.
As for what Turbine has said many times - how many times did they promise MOD 9 only to find out now that was all a bunch of BS as MOD 9 was clearly fully intended to be rolled out as the RMT DDO. You are truly a naive and gullible sap if you believe jack from Turbine.
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I have some tinfoil you can barrow.
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I'm actually excited about this announcement, i'm not a subscriber but i signed up for the Beta anyways, the only thing i'm ticked off about is that they are taking warforged away from the F2Ps, but you can purchase the race, so if it isn't to bad i can make my warforged rogue later on down the line.
I think this will bring more people into the game, since it seems you can play most of the main line areas and go to lvl cap (unless they say something different). It might not save the game, but it will give it a bit of a population boost from the people who need a game to play during the summer, or from their main subscription games.
Oh yes. But if you're subcribed to DDO US, you will be invited to closed beta before others. So, one could say, you'll have that Mod 9 you're waiting for plus knowlegde about "new DDO" before all players over the world. You will, to some degree, help to create this new F2P mmo model
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