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Aion VS WOW
Renoaku
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Compare Aion to wow, Considering that NC Soft does not screw things up later in future
patches and pvp, and all this other stuff, it could be a wow killer, and here is why.
Better Graphics than wow on a DX10 Engine, I max out everything and get 100 + Fps.
Better Sound than WOW, except maybe for some of the music themes.
No need to pay for Mounts, Because everyone gets wings, In world of warcraft its 500 G +
for a epic riding mount, 1000 G for a Flying mount, and 5000 G + for an epic flying
mount, who wants to pay that?
Dual Talanet System WOW, 1000G Per Character, as well as the mounts.
Waiting for MANA in AION is almost the same or less time than World OF Warcraft.
So the big question is why someone would want to pay for World OF Warcraft now, because
of all this grinding wow requires, and all the stuff they keep changing. I can remember
when I was first playing world of warcraft before TBC ever came out, It was a lot better
then before it came out, After TBC came out they started making all this pvp gear, who
has the best gear dominates the battle field, I kinda get tired of games like that that
require all of this kind of stuff.
So just look at the pictures below, Aion VS world of warcraft, Which is better, Considering they dont Screw it up.
Isn't my avatars just sweet (; ?
VS WOW
Planet Side VS Global Agenda VS Huxley
Planetside failed because sony never gave it enough attention/Updates and events, and
fails to keep people informed.
Huxley Failed because they sold out to IJJ, which is a free to play gaming service/Item
Shop service for a few online games.
Global Agenda has all new skills, and stuff, and considering they keep it they will kill
planetside out.
Huxley, and Global Agenda are the reasons NC soft really shut down their game Tabula
Rasa in my opinion because they were all pretty much the same MMOFPS except Tabula Rasa
was alien killing, and just costing them money.
Comments
Well not a killer but will give it competition for sure. Graphically it is better than WoW and some aspects are also different from WoW too. Aion does a lot of things WoW does and does a lot of things WoW does not do of for the fact many other MMO's do.
I'll be glad when MMO's will no longer be compared to WoW anymore.
I thought WoW had to stay 500m away from Aion cause of the stalking.
WoW brought in a lot of 1st timers into the MMO world and it'll be interesting to see how many it can retain when something else comes along of this magnitude.
I'll probably give it a whirl like most new MMO's although Q3-Q4 this year is looking very busy for my custom at the moment.
IM not sure you can fairly compare the graphics of a newly released game to that of one that's 4 yrs old.
Also, you make a big assumption that NCSoft doesnt screw things up in patches. IM sorry, but exactly what is your data on this? Every company screws someting up with every patch, these games are far too complex for something not to go arwy when you make even minor changes. NCSoft is a solid company, and despite it's detractors, so is Blizzard. I hope AION can provide MMO players with a viable PVE alternative to WoW.
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
will these vs WoW topics ever stop?
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
No the wow topics will not stop sorry to disappoint you, Here is why.
All 2004, or mmo's that were released around wow's date have the basic concenpts.
Mounts
Flying Mounts
Eating/Drinking to recover MP
Sitting
Epic Armors/Legendary Armors
Hunters
Mages, But these go back to dnd, although most remember it as wow, ect.
Elves, Most people always think of WOW when they hear ELF.
What about the next Gen 2010 MMO's where you actually Do quests, Get Cutscenes/RP to get Skills/spells so you actually know how you learned to summon water, or food, or cast a spell instead of just walking up to the NPC and saying. Hi (NAME HERE) I am level 50, I want to learn this, and just mgaically knowing it. this type of stuff bores me now a days, waiting for the next gen stuff ^^.
Comparing a game to WoW is fine (and encouraged, in my opinion) because almost everyone in the MMO community played WoW, and almost all of them liked it (a lot of people now who hate on WoW really liked it in the past and just shit all over it cause it's the "cool thing to do" - kinda like people who really didnt know anything about G.W. Bush would hate on him towards the end of his presidency).
So comparing a game to a well known and very successful other game is perfectly acceptable to me.
It's the "WoW Killer" threads that kill me.
And as to the question, Aion will never catch on like WoW did for several reasons, however there is one thing that (almost?) the entire community can agree on: instanced zones suck compared to non instanced ones.
Aion's instanced zones will be the only reason I will not even try the game (except if it comes out with a 14 day trial and I'm bored)
Also,I think flying was one of the things that hurt WoW (at least in this one you can fight while you fly), and it's way to final fantasy-esque art direction looks bad imo.
Happy Tuesday
I always think of wow when i'm sitting in an MMO, Lmao (the sitting thing had me in stitches)
Don't you people read these forums before starting the same threads over and over again?
I like Aion, you like Aion, that doesn't mean that you need to post about things not in the game. You don't do anyone any favours by posting about things not in the game.
PS: I think of AD&D when I hear the word 'elf'. Surprisingly not Lord of the Rings.
Heheh, you are in for a big big surprise. The first upgrade for your wing which add about 30 sec to flight time cost you 1 million kinah. The second upgrade add another minute to your flight time cost around 11 million kinah.
Heheh, you are in for a big big surprise. The first upgrade for your wing which add about 30 sec to flight time cost you 1 million kinah. The second upgrade add another minute to your flight time cost around 11 million kinah.
:-O
You could have talked less and just made the poll "Which do you prefer?", although graphic comparation was completely unfair in this case, it's not like you see old games getting their engines changed, there isn't enough flexibility for making that viable yet.
Anyway I'll just give my opinion. Aion is in a new level, because not only it does feature good unique mechanics seen in WoW, but it also takes features good unique mechanics seen in games after WoW: LOTRO, WAR, PW, and many others. It probably has new mechanics too, but I really don't care what mechanic came from which game, I want to see and feel the result and this result felt in a whole new level of fun gaming for me.
Heheh, you are in for a big big surprise. The first upgrade for your wing which add about 30 sec to flight time cost you 1 million kinah. The second upgrade add another minute to your flight time cost around 11 million kinah.
ROFL!!
So to keep it short, Aion is a better WOW?
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It is sad to see, yet again, someone posting the same thing again...
We already know, why Aion is a WoW-killer, or why it isn't... Please just stop this bullcrap. Both games will have their community, and probably, both communities will be healthy enough to keep the games running well... So please just stop all this WoW-killer and WoW-clone threads...
Ok so here is my 2 cents (not that anyone cares)
If you find WoW to be to easy and boring then stay away from Aion. The sounds remind me of 70's poorly made Sat. morning shows like Ultraman or Voltron. The look is ok if you are in to funky looking mobs. The flying is cool if it was not a timed thing, nothing like flying around and haveing you wings go poof and you fall to your death. Now with all that said I do think it could be a Warhammer killer but it will not kill WoW, no single game will kill WoW unless they screw something up really bad like LA did to SWG.
Assassin's like to do it in the dark and from behind.
Personally, I think the comparison would look a bit better if pictures in Aion are matched with similar pictures in WoW. For example, I see screenshots of character customization, selection, and emote (?) in Aion without their counterparts in WoW. Granted, Aion would win in those sections possibly because WoW is aged.
To be honest, the quest portion with Arthas was good - the wordage used in WoW (although silly at times) is one of the best parts about the game. That quest log looks like theres a lot more effort placed into it compared to Aion. They're slightly different games though - I want to stress that.
Aion already did catch on with its 3.3 million subscribers in 6 months (2 months since Chinese release).
And its not fair to compare one game to the other. One is brand new, the other is 5 years old with multiple patches and content expansions. Its also not really fair to compare Aion to Vanilla WoW, because Aion is NCsoft's second AAA MMO franchise, and they had the last 5 years to reflect on their previous game (as well as all other games since then).
You can discuss whether Aion will be as successful as WoW, 3.3million subscribers in this short span is just ridiculous, thats pretty much better than the combined releases of any 2 or 3 other MMO's, ever. Couldn't have been a worse time for WoW to have those problems in China (in case you didnt hear, the WoW servers in China will be down for the next 4 weeks, which means those 5 million WoW players will be looking for something to do, and it will likely be a 15 day free trial of Aion. Another good stat for Aion is something like 92% of its korean beta testers bought the game when beta was done...which was something like 400 000 people.
And WoW is easy, and at the same time the raiding feels like a chore. Aion's PvP is why it wins, clan owned castles, open world raid bosses on static times to encourage PvP's, allowing enemy parties in dungeons to encourage competition, a whole 1/3 of the world designed for PvP encounters among every other aspect of the game (having PvP secluded in its own space is not PvP, PvPers want a MMO with PvP, they don't just want PvP itself). PvP points for open world kills (not in arenas/minigames), LOSS of PvP points when somoene else kills you, which means you can't just farm them, which translates into something like 10% of the players will get epic PvP gear. A third NPC faction that participates in sieges and raids as a third side, PvP resurrections as well as mass resurrections.
All of those points are reason enough for me to play Aion for a very long time. Having the choice of random open world PvP in WoW that will never be competitive or worthwhile, farming the same boring, impersonal minigames that give you no sense of accopmlishments, or no goals or drive to win other than getting +Honor, or minute long arena matches are the reason why I could never get hooked for very long in WoW, even though I raided and played it multiple times.
Its funny when WoW's subs were posted you had all these people saying "omg china subs etc etc. don't count!"
I find it funny now with Aion how all these subs will now count lol.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Hey look, another one of these! Both games are good. I know it's against the law to like two games at once around here but hey that's just my opinion.
I'll give you 3 reasons why Aion will not dent WoW's subscription numbers.
Anime characters and Gameguard. Pretty self explanatory, I think. I'll elaborate a bit, if it's not. Although anime is huge in Asia and although, over the years, it has been crammed down our throats with all those Dragonball Z's and Pokemon's, not everyone in the west likes anime. A lot of people still preffer a more western art style.
Gameguard is a rootkit which messes with your system and prevents certain programs from running. It is also completely useless and serves more as an annoyance than an actual preventative method. Last but not least, it does not fully uninstall itself when you uninstall the game.
The third reason is a personal option: If I was interested in playing a game like WoW, I'll just play WoW.
See, I've played WoW. I've done every goal I set out for myself in WoW. I'm done with WoW and I want something new. Why would I want to play a game that's going to offer a similar experience as WoW? That's not something new. That's the same rehashed game play in a new, japanophile friendly, package.
its scary how right you are
I really can't see many people switching over to Aion for good. That said, if it's true about this game not being region-locked, then I will never touch it. I've had enough of playing with Asians in Lineage 2, Shadowbane, FFXI and various F2P PVP MMOs.
Except that some old games DO get their engines upgraded, CPP did it with EVE-Online a while back.
If I had to choose between Aion and WoW I would pick Aion, but I can't honestly say that it's the better game. I played wow for no more than two months back in 2005, and while it wasn't my cup of tea it was clearly a superb game. People like to claim that Blizzard did nothing new with their game, just took features here and there and polished it up, but it just isn't true, they really did reinvent the genre. The WoW experience is as different from EQ as EQ is from a DikuMud.
Clearly Aion offers a few new things, the character creator for example is very neat, and the graphics are pretty good for an mmo as well. Not top of the line by any means, but they are quite serviceable and offer good framerates and stability. But if there are any innovations past that, then they are very well hidden.
The gamemechanics offer absolutely nothing new, and sadly they didn't mange to find good things to copy, all classes have the same chaining mechanic as the Black Orc in Warhammer Online for example,, and while there is flying, it was actually done better in CoX.
Some games can be considered milestones in a genre, games that come along with a fresh new look at things and the ability to attract entierly new groups of players. Everquest was such a game, and so was WoW, but Aion doesn't even come close. Maybe SWToR will, but that remains to be seen.
DX10? ORLY OWL?