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PC's Vs Gaming COnsoles
HaendelB
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PCs Vs Gaming Consoles are computers really as superior as lead to believe. Im fairly new to mmorpg.com however scanning through the site I am a little disappointed in lack of exposure FFXI is receiving. Maybe it is that the game has been out for quite some time now Regardless, I personally feel that FFXI is one of the better mmorpgs out there now. I could be wrong but it seems that this site feels differently. Speaking with several people in the live chat and reading some of the articles, it appears gamers just want PC mmorpg's. FFXI was originally released as a PC mmorpg but I strongly feel it has benefited greatly by releasing out on PS2. Nevertheless, I do think if gamers do not get off of their pedestal in thinking that PC mmorpgs are far superior they are in for a rude awakening. The game console market is much vaster than PCs. A lot of people actually find them extremely intimidating. I see Sony as well as Microsoft corner this market comparatively soon. PC mmorpgs will become a thing of the past. But I say good riddance. Its much more practical to keep your gamming separate from your PC <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
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this topic is almost as played out as "which game is better, EQ2 or WoW"...
PC > console... i dont see that changing ANY time soon...
"Are you personally ready to accept the death of PC mmorpg's?"
i only get ready to accept things that might actually happen...
not even gonna vote...
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Ok well i would just like to point out that you are very, very wrong. This is not the death of MMORPGs!!!???? This is the birth! Have you taken one glimpse of the games that are to come out within the next few months? www.warcraftmovies.com Take a look at one of those and tell me if that is death. Id HATE to play an mmorpg on a PS2 considering I DONT HAVE ONE! The average household probably has a computer rather than a PS2 laying around. PS2 Is a pain and you would have to buy a keyboard and everything. Why not just buy a PS2 controller for your computer? I am sorry but this thread is terribly wrong
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what the hack are you talking about? gaming consoles were made on PC. PC mmorpg gaming never going to die, not im my life span at least.
accept? wtf. sorry but it's totally insane of you to say that.
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If you think that PC MMORPG's are a thing of the past you really haven't checked to see what's in development. Do you think that it was some mistake that FFXI was infact released for the PC before the PS2? Do you think that the vast majority of the upcoming MMORPG's in development are all for the PC is just a coincidence? Games on the PC look better and for certain types, MMORPGS in this case, have a far suprerior input system. You just can't beat a mouse and keyboard. Leave consules for sports, some rpg's and fighter games.
Yea, sorry. I played FFXI...I know tons of people who work at Sony, have it for the PS2 so they can play it at work but then they go home and cry and bow down to their PC version because it is so much better. Think installing FFXI is long on the PC...wow PS2 it is a whole day endeavor.
If the MMO market were to ever goto consoles they would surely go broke as people like me and the rest of these good folks would never buy the game or the console just to get the game. While I don't know this for sure but I bet if you looked up the households that own computers vs households that own consoles you'd find the PC market bigger. Not to mention games like FFXI won't ever come out on any system other than PS2. Any MMO on any console would be dedicated to that console. At least any largely successful MMO. :P
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Everywhere has it's starting point. But anyway here are the list of reasons you can not deny...
1)Cost effective-You WONT find a PC for 200 dollars worth playing anything on...
2)MarketingA-When was the last time you saw a commercial for a PC game???
3)Mobility- Find a television and you can play just about anywhere. Yes yes there are lap tops but again it comes back to the fact that your not beat 200 dollars. Okay I'll even throw in the cost for a little 15' 350 dollars...
4)Marketing Cont'd-Your right most likely every house hold does have a PC. However, every household with a member that is in the target marekt of mmorpgs most certainly has SEVERAL game consoles.
5)Business-Microsoft and Sony are technology Juggernauts and have the means to pay ANY developer out there...
I'm not saying its going to happen today tommorow or even in 5 years. However it's just comes down to money making and Microsoft and Sony will not miss out on the easy buck mmorpgs could make them.
HaendelB
Oh on a side not, if the market conforms which it will so will all of you because we are a society of conformists.
If it should swing to consoles I highly doubt all would stop playing for sake of protest...
HaendelB
1) So ? Who would want a $200 piece oh crap computer. So tell me when was the last time you checked your email, did your taxes, or surfed your porn with a PS2? Hmmmmmm?
2) Actually some games advertised on t.v. sometimes has PC listed as part of the platforms you can buy the game for. Also why advertise on tv? Seems to me PC game makers can save overhead from advertising on tv is smart. Go other forms of media, likethis web site...is cheaper.
3) Ooook ever hear of lan parties mr. mobility?
4) So? whats the point? I have a PS2, and a Xbox, I play em when my online mmropgs are patching, or to bond a little with my sons as they hand me my arse.
5) Computers are here to stay, and technology gets better computers get cheaper, soon consoles may infact become basic computers, like the Xbox for example.
As long as computers increase in power ect, game makers with continue to make code to take advantage of that. You can't get the kind of graphic power, gaming goodness on a console, not yet. I have seen awesome stuff on console, but seen better on computer.
Thats my opinion however flawed
All of your points are moot when you go back to the fact that Sony, Microsoft, and even Nintendo will continue to make MMOs for PC and use their consoles to reach a secondary market. Sure consoles are cheaper but they are legally bound. PCs (other than Mac's) are generic. Meaning Microsoft can reach every PC owner. If Microsoft made a MMO you can be sure that Sony or Nintendo won't let them put it on the PS. If you thought the number of consoles vs PCs in households is low imagine the number of households who only own 1 console. I don't have a gamecube and if a MMO came out exclusively for the gamecube I wouldn't go out and buy the gamecube because I personally believe the GC is a cruddy system.
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Games Waiting for:WoW, EQII
The PS3 doesn't even have any solid specs on it yet but even if it did it wouldn't compare to the power of the average home PC. It will be close but most MMO gamers will have a better PC. Not to mention you still have the problem of needing an internet connection and the MMO would be dedicated to ONE market of players.
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LMFAO! OH thanks, you made my day, that was funny. Here's some of my comments.
1) Serious gamers all own a new computer, intend on buying one, or are in the process of buying one.
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2) MMORPGS work SOOOO much better on a PC due to the upgradeability of the PC, the size capability of the PC, and the performance ability of a PC.
3) The PC and the console are in 2 entirely different markets in most games. Where consoles own the sports and racing games, PC owns the MMORPG and FPS genres. (Except Halo and FFXI, there have been exceptions)
4)Mobility doesn't help when you have to find an internet port, and how many people honesty travel with a console? Mine rarely leaves my house. Mobility will not play a key factor, at all.
5)To develop an MMORPG on a PC would be much cheaper, any third party developer would probably rather do it on PC then pay Sony or Microsoft for a license.
6) Sony and Microsoft dont have the money to buy any developer, otherwise they'd own the world, and Nintendo wouldn't allow that
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If anything, the PC mmorpg will remain and it will probably die out on the console.
I'm sorry...the console was designed to provide a few hour of enjoyment on the ol tele. The PC has so much more capabilities than a console has.
I have to 100% disagree with your argument simply because I fail to see any trend of a dieing PC mmorpg fan base.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Silly guy, you forget both SONY and Microsoft have invested in PC GAMES as well. LOL! Your own argument cancels itself once again. You post how you admire SONY and Microsoft sooo much. You bring attention to how much they have invested in the console market. Yet you have not finnished doing your homework - or else you would know that they have even more invested in the PC market.
Bottom line, if YOU personally do not like the PC, no problem. Do not buy one. Do not play one. Stick to console. This here site MMORPG.com is a fansite for gamers who like playing MMORPGs on both PC and console. Take it to some other fansite that likes only consoles.
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as a loooong-time console gamer and fanboi, i have to say the computer >console, graphics, performance, everything. and about the MMORPGs dying? i don't think so. the 3rd generation is just begining ex: EQ II, WoW, DnL, Vanguard, GuildWars.. etc :P
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I respect this forum because nobody took any shots and just came with factual argumentative information. I like it...I'll stick around. I do sense a lot of you question my um...knowledge which is fine. To a lot of you this is like trying to prove Christ doesnt exsist and so I respect you all defending it so well. I honestly just wanted to pick something controversal so I could get to rank 2 so I could rate FFXI because I love that game. You don't have to which is fine. PC's are better though I agree. Ha thanks for getting me to rank 2.
HaendelB
lol, yeeeeeaaaaaaaah
anyways, welcome to the forums! Enjoy your stay
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Not again please lock it down.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
i think the biggest strength consoles have is theyre marketed to little kids. PC's are too expensive and too confusing for the average little kid that just wants to turn it on and play. Everytiime i've gone to a game store, theres tons of little kids there all over the Gameboys or whatever their called, or some console game, begging their parents to buy them this and that. Then everyone i ever see looking at the PC stuff are generally older people who are 20+.
Anyhow, little kids are one of our countries biggest consumers, parents will buy their kids all kinds of crap. And video games generally tops that kids most wanted list.
I didn't see anyone mention this, but XNA is supposed to converge the console and PC gaming platforms so none of this argument matters... Well, unless you don't go with MS stuff
For those of you unfamiliar, XNA is a new API that replaces DirectX. This API will be built into the XBOX 2 and can be installed on Windows, so effectively, you can run XBOX 2 games written with XNA on a PC with XNA. The first MMORPG to use this tech will be Vanguard (published by MS).
That's as far as I know anyway. Someone else may be able to expound further.
It is not the death of MMORPG's...it is the saturation of it.....which in turn causes some to cut and run instead of trying to compete with name recognition MMOs like WoW, EQ, SOE games, etc.
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