See selfish again. Companies should make balanced games no matter how much a vocal minority, such as yourself, wants to have things ONLY their way. Games should not be group only - they either wouldn't sell many copies or would end being a game with a small player base.
See selfish again. Companies should make balanced games no matter how much a vocal minority, such as yourself, wants to have things ONLY their way. Games should not be group only - they either wouldn't sell many copies or would end being a game with a small player base.
It was your suggestion, not mine
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
It is simple. I will play a single player game offline if I want all solo. I play online to play with others and a game where you can solo to kill and get everything in the game ruins that for me. Why group when the game is designed to be soloed? All of a sudden that dragon you are killing doesn't seem as dangerous when you walk up with your party and see one person killing it. If they have some solo options in game, I am okay with that. I am not okay with them turning an online game I pay monthly for into a singleplayer game. Why bother playing?
i want to solo to level up but i want to group to pvp
i dont' want to have to rely on others the advance my character in levels
It is simple. I will play a single player game offline if I want all solo. I play online to play with others and a game where you can solo to kill and get everything in the game ruins that for me. Why group when the game is designed to be soloed? All of a sudden that dragon you are killing doesn't seem as dangerous when you walk up with your party and see one person killing it. If they have some solo options in game, I am okay with that. I am not okay with them turning an online game I pay monthly for into a singleplayer game. Why bother playing?
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
It is simple. I will play a single player game offline if I want all solo. I play online to play with others and a game where you can solo to kill and get everything in the game ruins that for me. Why group when the game is designed to be soloed? All of a sudden that dragon you are killing doesn't seem as dangerous when you walk up with your party and see one person killing it. If they have some solo options in game, I am okay with that. I am not okay with them turning an online game I pay monthly for into a singleplayer game. Why bother playing?
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
why don't you get some friends IRL so you don't have to search out for internet friends
I tend to solo alot in the 1st place.. so take this however you want.... MMORPG << MM stands for MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER that in and of itself means more then 1 hence group that is what the games are designed for .. those of us who tend to solo alot need to stop wineing if you want to play solo all the time buy a solo game... and this is comming from someone who solo's about 85% of the time.. i play MMORPGS because i like them.. and i like knowing that if im in the mood to group then i can if i dont want to then i dont have to.. but I for one defanutly dont want them makeing the game easy'er just so i can solo everything in the game thats a crock and if i wanted it i would be playing a solo game in the 1st place...
I tend to solo alot in the 1st place.. so take this however you want.... MMORPG << MM stands for MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER that in and of itself means more then 1 hence group that is what the games are designed for .. those of us who tend to solo alot need to stop wineing if you want to play solo all the time buy a solo game... and this is comming from someone who solo's about 85% of the time.. i play MMORPGS because i like them.. and i like knowing that if im in the mood to group then i can if i dont want to then i dont have to.. but I for one defanutly dont want them makeing the game easy'er just so i can solo everything in the game thats a crock and if i wanted it i would be playing a solo game in the 1st place...
shut up loser
i play MMOs to get AWAY from people because i deal with so many IRL
i want solo play so i can just sit and relax and group if i feel like it
It is simple. I will play a single player game offline if I want all solo. I play online to play with others and a game where you can solo to kill and get everything in the game ruins that for me. Why group when the game is designed to be soloed? All of a sudden that dragon you are killing doesn't seem as dangerous when you walk up with your party and see one person killing it. If they have some solo options in game, I am okay with that. I am not okay with them turning an online game I pay monthly for into a singleplayer game. Why bother playing?
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
why don't you get some friends IRL so you don't have to search out for internet friends
There should be different types of games within the MMORPG genre. Those that you can solo all the content and those that require a group to get through content. Problem solved. There's no need in arguing to have both playstyles be put in one game when you can simply create two games to make both parties happy. And trust me, there's a enough people to fill both games.
thats just it.. they already have them both... its called solo or 1 player games.. .and MMO's .... i dont understand why people are trying to take MMO's and turn them into 1 player games.... there is a ton of content in every MMO out there that you can solo or run with one or two people... but the game wasnt designed to run that way.. if it was then it wouldnt be a MMO in the first place
See selfish again. Companies should make balanced games no matter how much a vocal minority, such as yourself, wants to have things ONLY their way. Games should not be group only - they either wouldn't sell many copies or would end being a game with a small player base.
It was your suggestion, not mine
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
thats just it.. they already have them both... its called solo or 1 player games.. .and MMO's .... i dont understand why people are trying to take MMO's and turn them into 1 player games.... there is a ton of content in every MMO out there that you can solo or run with one or two people... but the game wasnt designed to run that way.. if it was then it wouldnt be a MMO in the first place
Well I agree with you. But for the sake of making these people happy, why not just create something where you can solo all the content, have 1000 people on the same server to chat with and call it an MMORPG? They can play that game, and i'll play something like FFXI since that's what I like to play. You see, the problem here is these people are arguing their preferences, so there's no right or wrong and the best solution would be to make two different games since their preferences directly conflict.
It is simple. I will play a single player game offline if I want all solo. I play online to play with others and a game where you can solo to kill and get everything in the game ruins that for me. Why group when the game is designed to be soloed? All of a sudden that dragon you are killing doesn't seem as dangerous when you walk up with your party and see one person killing it. If they have some solo options in game, I am okay with that. I am not okay with them turning an online game I pay monthly for into a singleplayer game. Why bother playing?
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
please show where those of us who want to solo play said there should only be solo play.
See selfish again. Companies should make balanced games no matter how much a vocal minority, such as yourself, wants to have things ONLY their way. Games should not be group only - they either wouldn't sell many copies or would end being a game with a small player base.
It was your suggestion, not mine
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Last time I checked there were other games like Lineage 2 and FFXI and EQ that still are/were probably the top 5 most successful MMOs ever and they are what some would call "forced grouping" games. See some people like to think that just because something like WoW has 11 million subscribers that the MMORPG genre is all of a sudden mainstream. No...WoW is mainstream, not the entire genre.
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
I tend to solo alot in the 1st place.. so take this however you want.... MMORPG << MM stands for MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER that in and of itself means more then 1 hence group that is what the games are designed for .. those of us who tend to solo alot need to stop wineing if you want to play solo all the time buy a solo game... and this is comming from someone who solo's about 85% of the time.. i play MMORPGS because i like them.. and i like knowing that if im in the mood to group then i can if i dont want to then i dont have to.. but I for one defanutly dont want them makeing the game easy'er just so i can solo everything in the game thats a crock and if i wanted it i would be playing a solo game in the 1st place...
it is not us solo'ers who are whining - it is the group only players. I have no problem grouping or about the group for good stuff if you want it. I do want the challenge of leveling without grouping if I can. My experience is that a good deal of those who spend their time only grouping do not know how to effectively play their characters and end up getting the group killed, and/or are only their to help themselves and will abandon the group as soon as their needs are met - regardless if someone else in the group still needs to finish the quest/get the loot or whatever. If I saw more team work I would group more often and in fact do group with guildmates who need things - whther I need them or not.
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
My point is that there are balanced games and group only games and if you are so poor a player that you need to be in a group and are helpless otherwise play one of the group games and stop whining about balanced games, now what was your point - the top of your head? 8).
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
He didn't seem to have much a of a point honestly. Guild Wars was always f2p and DDO wasn't a great game (imo) so maybe that's why it went f2p lol. Again, it's this state of mind that if a game doesn't have 11 milion subs it's a failure. There are plenty of "forced grouping" games out there with subs of 500k+ which is better than 99% of MMOs subs numbers...except for WoW which again is the exception, not the rule.
I'll say it again...the solution is two different types of games. One for those who like the traditional group based gameplay. what they would call "forced grouping" and one where you can solo the content and have the option to group.
My point is that there are balanced games and group only games and if you are so poor a player that you need to be in a group and are helpless otherwise play one of the group games and stop whining about balanced games, now what was your point - the top of your head? 8).
Ah, I forgot we can't have our favorite playstyle and wish for a company to cater to that specific playstyle- that just means that I 'need to be in a group' and can't function alone. Lol.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
It is simple. I will play a single player game offline if I want all solo. I play online to play with others and a game where you can solo to kill and get everything in the game ruins that for me. Why group when the game is designed to be soloed? All of a sudden that dragon you are killing doesn't seem as dangerous when you walk up with your party and see one person killing it. If they have some solo options in game, I am okay with that. I am not okay with them turning an online game I pay monthly for into a singleplayer game. Why bother playing?
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
please show where those of us who want to solo play said there should only be solo play.
You make no absolute sense. You can clearly see I was typing that in response to your post attacking what I original wrote which said nothing against having solo in a game.
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
My point is that there are balanced games and group only games and if you are so poor a player that you need to be in a group and are helpless otherwise play one of the group games and stop whining about balanced games, now what was your point - the top of your head? 8).
I hate to do multiple posts here but I don't think that's a very good point to be making. Assuming that everyone who likes to primarily group up can't play the game well is a very presumptuous thing to say. I for one like to play games where people group and that's how the best way to advance is designed. It's just my preference. You don't like that so I don't expect you to play that game. Play something else and leave it at that. Not every game has to be "balanced" because not everyone prefers the same type of game and yes "balanced" refers to a certain type of game.
you can do that with some of the games out there... they have made it so you can set the dificulties of the instances... take AOC or DDO.. when you enter the instance it askes you how hard you want to do it on.....
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
He didn't seem to have much a of a point honestly. Guild Wars was always f2p and DDO wasn't a great game (imo) so maybe that's why it went f2p lol. Again, it's this state of mind that if a game doesn't have 11 milion subs it's a failure. There are plenty of "forced grouping" games out there with subs of 500k+ which is better than 99% of MMOs subs numbers...except for WoW which again is the exception, not the rule.
I'll say it again...the solution is two different types of games. One for those who like the traditional group based gameplay. what they would call "forced grouping" and one where you can solo the content and have the option to group.
No, the solution is balanced gameplay - the problem is that everyone only wants a game for their style. Who says that should be true. The point was that there are group games and nobody much plays them.
My point is that there are balanced games and group only games and if you are so poor a player that you need to be in a group and are helpless otherwise play one of the group games and stop whining about balanced games, now what was your point - the top of your head? 8).
Ah, I forgot we can't have our favorite playstyle and wish for a company to cater to that specific playstyle- that just means that I 'need to be in a group' and can't function alone. Lol.
you do have games that aree that way, you seem to be one who wants ALL games to be that way. LOL @ you for wanting those who want other content to go without. I never advocated for solo only, just for balanced play - you however seemed to be afraid that someone can solo a game you can only group in - why is that?
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That's what companies should do, you are right.
See selfish again. Companies should make balanced games no matter how much a vocal minority, such as yourself, wants to have things ONLY their way. Games should not be group only - they either wouldn't sell many copies or would end being a game with a small player base.
It was your suggestion, not mine
i want to solo to level up but i want to group to pvp
i dont' want to have to rely on others the advance my character in levels
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
why don't you get some friends IRL so you don't have to search out for internet friends
I tend to solo alot in the 1st place.. so take this however you want.... MMORPG << MM stands for MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER that in and of itself means more then 1 hence group that is what the games are designed for .. those of us who tend to solo alot need to stop wineing if you want to play solo all the time buy a solo game... and this is comming from someone who solo's about 85% of the time.. i play MMORPGS because i like them.. and i like knowing that if im in the mood to group then i can if i dont want to then i dont have to.. but I for one defanutly dont want them makeing the game easy'er just so i can solo everything in the game thats a crock and if i wanted it i would be playing a solo game in the 1st place...
shut up loser
i play MMOs to get AWAY from people because i deal with so many IRL
i want solo play so i can just sit and relax and group if i feel like it
then buy a platformer and play by yourself crybaby
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
why don't you get some friends IRL so you don't have to search out for internet friends
Great rebuttal....
There should be different types of games within the MMORPG genre. Those that you can solo all the content and those that require a group to get through content. Problem solved. There's no need in arguing to have both playstyles be put in one game when you can simply create two games to make both parties happy. And trust me, there's a enough people to fill both games.
thats just it.. they already have them both... its called solo or 1 player games.. .and MMO's .... i dont understand why people are trying to take MMO's and turn them into 1 player games.... there is a ton of content in every MMO out there that you can solo or run with one or two people... but the game wasnt designed to run that way.. if it was then it wouldnt be a MMO in the first place
It was your suggestion, not mine
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Well I agree with you. But for the sake of making these people happy, why not just create something where you can solo all the content, have 1000 people on the same server to chat with and call it an MMORPG? They can play that game, and i'll play something like FFXI since that's what I like to play. You see, the problem here is these people are arguing their preferences, so there's no right or wrong and the best solution would be to make two different games since their preferences directly conflict.
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
please show where those of us who want to solo play said there should only be solo play.
It was your suggestion, not mine
nope, it wasn't - my suggestion was for that individual to whom I was replying make his/her own game, not companys. Companys should make a balanced game - their main concern is profit and making a game for a vocal minority like those who only want group content is not real profitable. there are already 2 games that are for mostly group players - DDO and Guild Wars, DDO just went free to play with item stores - Why not go play those? Leave balanced games alone, they give the most to all styles of gameplay.
Last time I checked there were other games like Lineage 2 and FFXI and EQ that still are/were probably the top 5 most successful MMOs ever and they are what some would call "forced grouping" games. See some people like to think that just because something like WoW has 11 million subscribers that the MMORPG genre is all of a sudden mainstream. No...WoW is mainstream, not the entire genre.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
it is not us solo'ers who are whining - it is the group only players. I have no problem grouping or about the group for good stuff if you want it. I do want the challenge of leveling without grouping if I can. My experience is that a good deal of those who spend their time only grouping do not know how to effectively play their characters and end up getting the group killed, and/or are only their to help themselves and will abandon the group as soon as their needs are met - regardless if someone else in the group still needs to finish the quest/get the loot or whatever. If I saw more team work I would group more often and in fact do group with guildmates who need things - whther I need them or not.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
My point is that there are balanced games and group only games and if you are so poor a player that you need to be in a group and are helpless otherwise play one of the group games and stop whining about balanced games, now what was your point - the top of your head? 8).
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
He didn't seem to have much a of a point honestly. Guild Wars was always f2p and DDO wasn't a great game (imo) so maybe that's why it went f2p lol. Again, it's this state of mind that if a game doesn't have 11 milion subs it's a failure. There are plenty of "forced grouping" games out there with subs of 500k+ which is better than 99% of MMOs subs numbers...except for WoW which again is the exception, not the rule.
I'll say it again...the solution is two different types of games. One for those who like the traditional group based gameplay. what they would call "forced grouping" and one where you can solo the content and have the option to group.
Ah, I forgot we can't have our favorite playstyle and wish for a company to cater to that specific playstyle- that just means that I 'need to be in a group' and can't function alone. Lol.
So it is YOUR way or the highway. Go make your own game, and invite only groupers. I do not see how having soloable content ruins the game. Seems to me you are just being selfish.
I don't see how you got that from my post. Reread it please. Please point out where I wrote that there should only be grouping in the MMORPGS.
please show where those of us who want to solo play said there should only be solo play.
You make no absolute sense. You can clearly see I was typing that in response to your post attacking what I original wrote which said nothing against having solo in a game.
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
My point is that there are balanced games and group only games and if you are so poor a player that you need to be in a group and are helpless otherwise play one of the group games and stop whining about balanced games, now what was your point - the top of your head? 8).
I hate to do multiple posts here but I don't think that's a very good point to be making. Assuming that everyone who likes to primarily group up can't play the game well is a very presumptuous thing to say. I for one like to play games where people group and that's how the best way to advance is designed. It's just my preference. You don't like that so I don't expect you to play that game. Play something else and leave it at that. Not every game has to be "balanced" because not everyone prefers the same type of game and yes "balanced" refers to a certain type of game.
you can do that with some of the games out there... they have made it so you can set the dificulties of the instances... take AOC or DDO.. when you enter the instance it askes you how hard you want to do it on.....
Yeah and the company can't have people with similar vision about the game? You only need that many developers that share the same idea with this guy, and you're telling them all to make a grouping game... sure, sounds good to me.
All they need is a niche to fill to make profit and you don't need to appeal to masses to do that.
why not play those? a) PvP can gtfo b) f2p can gtfo.
Why is there Guild Wars 2 coming by the way? If it was profitable, they'll make a sequel. Seems that it was. What was your point again?
He didn't seem to have much a of a point honestly. Guild Wars was always f2p and DDO wasn't a great game (imo) so maybe that's why it went f2p lol. Again, it's this state of mind that if a game doesn't have 11 milion subs it's a failure. There are plenty of "forced grouping" games out there with subs of 500k+ which is better than 99% of MMOs subs numbers...except for WoW which again is the exception, not the rule.
I'll say it again...the solution is two different types of games. One for those who like the traditional group based gameplay. what they would call "forced grouping" and one where you can solo the content and have the option to group.
No, the solution is balanced gameplay - the problem is that everyone only wants a game for their style. Who says that should be true. The point was that there are group games and nobody much plays them.
Ah, I forgot we can't have our favorite playstyle and wish for a company to cater to that specific playstyle- that just means that I 'need to be in a group' and can't function alone. Lol.
you do have games that aree that way, you seem to be one who wants ALL games to be that way. LOL @ you for wanting those who want other content to go without. I never advocated for solo only, just for balanced play - you however seemed to be afraid that someone can solo a game you can only group in - why is that?