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PvP or PvE (poll)
moukin
Member Posts: 278
Do you plan to play on a full PvP server or the PvE servers? The difference seems to be on PvP, you can be openly attacked in a lot more areas and on the PvE servers, you have to actually flag yourself for PvP. So you don't have to participate if you don't want to.
I think my fiance and I will try the PvE servers first. We want to experience the game and enjoy ourselves with it for a while before we think about PvP. For one, I think it'll extend the life of the game for us. If we max out our characters and after a while, start getting bored with them, we can roll new characters on the PvP servers and get really involved with it.
Also, maybe we'll experiment with server types in the open beta to see how they work a little better.
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PVP. otherwise what's the point ?
if you can see the future then you can change your path, but if you can change your path then how can you see the definate future
always my opion when i talk as this is me and my ideas if you disagree with something i dont want flaming plz. thank you. and Dont question a forum posters spelling you think we got spell check on this thing.
PvE, simply because on the PvE servers you can pvp all you want, but if you dont want to pvp you dont have to worry about being ganked while you are questing etc.
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none-pvp you can't raid alliance towns and throw people beatings. that's not fun. plus what's the point of getting really good gear if you can only use it on the same boss mobs you got it from,boring.
Definetly gotta be able to smash someone's face in the dirt if they cross me the wrong way. I'm not into all that carebear hug and smooches bs fest. Just thinking about that might make me projectile vomit.
Getting you're A$$ handed to you is a part of life. I can't wait till someone throws me a beating. And from what I've heard about wow anyway, dyeing is only a "10 second inconvenience". As apposed to when I played eq and getting hammered sometimes meant 4 hour C.R.Don't be sceeerrred. Suck it up.
edit: in pve only don't you have to like /duel if you want to wrastle with someone? oh man don't get into a heated argument with someone. They might /duel YOU!
Generally, I would be happy to discuss this with you. I've been back and forth on the PvP or PvE issue and while PvE is my current decision, that could easily change.
However, your tone is really insulting and makes me wonder if you're one of the types of jerks I would be avoiding by going PvE.
"Don't be sceeerrred. Suck it up."
That statement, among others you made, changes this from a friendly discussion of the pros and cons of each server to a discussion where those of us who are considering PvE are treated like we must be wimps if we can't handle PvP. Well, thank you, school bully.
I'll think i wil do the same as moukin(first post). A realy good idea. Becuase when you are uber prof on PVE server, you can make a new one on a PvP server, and then WoW wont wery repative if you only play PvP or PvE. But i think you only should play PvP on PvP servers, since you give different gear and skills to PvP and PvE chars. So an a PvE server you will get help with PvE playing, and on PvP servers you will get help on PvP playing.
Cheers! Im out!
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Yes. Cause you really know what my true tone is through me typing on a computer in a forum. Oh, maybe I shoulda thrown some faces in there so they can truely show my expressions in real life and you'll absolutely know what my tone is all about... Or, maybe relax and calm yourself. You're in a forum. No need to foam at that mouth.
You don't like PVP. Awesome. From what I know about wow it's horde vs alliance. Basically meaning horde and alliance battle eachother. Not call eachother names and maybe a /duel slap fight once in a while if the carebear fest go's sour. But that's just how I think. But i'm sorry, didnt mean to get your panties bunched.
What I liked about the PvE servers in the stress test is that you CAN PvP if you want to. I'm usually not inclined to participate in PvP because I really enjoy playing the game and immersing myself in the plotlines that are provided by quests and such. But in many cases, I'd be turning in a quest at the Crossroads or something right when a group of Alliance decides to come up. Well, in that case, I can decide what I want to do. Do I want to go help out with the raid? Do I want to do another quest?
I don't have to think "well, if I go off to do another quest, I might get hunted down by one of those Alliance guys.
Now, I remind myself that the above really isn't true to the world that Warcraft is set in. It's a world that has seen war for thousands of years. Everyone has learned to watch their backs and the possibility of attack is always there. That's a big reason why I'm going to check out PvP during the open beta before I finalize my decision.
In the end, I'm just not fond of the idea that people could come attack me when I'm at my weakest, fighting a monster or something. And then corpse camp me for as long as they like. At least on PvE, I'll know that I'm being corpse camped because I actively chose to initiate battle with them.
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The Devil is in the details.
This is why I would change my mind. If I play PvP during the open beta and there isn't rampant ganking and corpse camping and such, I probably will go PvP on release.
I agree that it is a world that is at war and has been for a very long time. But the fact is that there are players behind every character, and some form of honorable behavior is expected. I would hope that the honor system will encourage that, but I don't have much faith that it will. I wonder how many people simply won't care that killing someone a certain number of levels below them will drop their honor.
I don't see anything cool or fun about going into a low level area and slaughtering the newbies. But sadly, I think a lot of people will find that amusing.
Wow? Don't leave your house someone might give you some criticism and your world will come to a crash. Actually realize what you are crying over, pve servers. Yes you are defending pve servers everywhere! keep up the good fight cause people care and it's a worthwhile cause in life.
Call me rude and other names all you want. Awesome. Because I've been directly mean to you at a personal level. Oh wait, no I havn't. I said I didn't like pve only servers because they make no sense -> in a PVP or PVE thread.
Please check yourself, that attitude won't take you far in life.
edit: next time you make a thread end the topic idea with :... don't say anything wrong about my ideas or i will be forced to cry and bitch.
I'm not defending PvE servers or saying that everyone should play on them or anything like that. I wanted some good discussion on the pros and cons of both server types, but you barged in and made it sound like anyone who plays PvE must be a total wimp or carebear and just can't tough it out on the PvP server like you.
If you want to discuss the aspects of PvP vs PvE then fine. But you've come in here basically stating that PvP is the ONLY way anyone should go and that PvE is for wimps. If you'll go back and read my comments, you'll see that I've been discussing important things about both types and that I really hope my open beta experience on the PvP servers sways my decision.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I should wrap this up. You've brought my world crashing down and I've cried so much on my keyboard that it'll surely short out.
Can you play a character on PvE for a while and then take him to a PvP server? I know Ultima Online had this feature. A lot of players played the PvE until they were good and then made the jump. I think that avoided a lot of the newbie killing. But if you can't switch back and forth between servers I'm playing PvP. It'll be more fun in the long run.
Wow? Don't leave your house someone might give you some criticism and your world will come to a crash. Actually realize what you are crying over, pve servers. Yes you are defending pve servers everywhere! keep up the good fight cause people care and it's a worthwhile cause in life.
Call me rude and other names all you want. Awesome. Because I've been directly mean to you at a personal level. Oh wait, no I havn't. I said I didn't like pve only servers because they make no sense -> in a PVP or PVE thread.
Please check yourself, that attitude won't take you far in life.
edit: next time you make a thread end the topic idea with :... don't say anything wrong about my ideas or i will be forced to cry and whine.
Lmao, you need a few anger management classes bud. Well, either that or you need to learn how to express yourself in a more reasoned and coherant manner.
If you choose a name like Narco, take an aggressive stance in your writing and end it with a sig that talks about how you'll 'bury them all' what do you expect people to think? and the only one I see here getting their panties in a bunch is you dear sir.
p.s. just because you didn't use his name followed by a derogatory adjective doesn't mean that you were not being personally insulting.
In answer to the original poster I think possibly PVE to start with and then take a view on another char on a PVP server later.
I've played a lot of open PVP games and invariably it ends in a gank fest. For those that don't play 24/7 it can be more than just a bit of a nuisance.
It all depends on how blizz finally sets up the rules for each. Maybe, as mentioned, the PVP honour system will prevent the gankers but we'll have to wait and see.
Considering I'm in college and have other hobbies than WoW, I'd like to be in a PvE server. Just for the fact that I do not really have the time to "powerlevel" and all. I'm afraid that the guild I'm recruiting will be far behind the rest of the players due to the lack of my playing time. It would just be very aggrevating for me to go out and try to level as I get slammed by an army that has played for twice as much time that I have and are way more powerful. After my playing of Lineage ][, I have witnessed those that devote their LIVES to leveling. I mean, 40+ hours straight of playing. Ack. I can't see that. At least with PvE I can choose who I want to attack and from what I hear there are raids in PvE (not sure on that one). I think PvE suits my lifestyle a lot better than PvP. Just my opinion.
People can argue all day about PvP and PvE servers and just go around in circles. To say that one type is better than the other is like arguing that blue is a better color than green. What's the point? We all have what are called opinions. Granted explainging the differences between the servers is something that makes sense; but to argue which is better?...c'mon.
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Interestingly, I'm seeing posts on the beta boards that say the honor system ruined PvP. They say before, if you stumbled across a player of the opposing faction, there was always a bit of tension and sort of sizing each other up moment. Is he going to attack me? Maybe it's not worth his time. Should I attack him? If he's not going to bother me, maybe we'll just go our separate ways....etc.
Now, it's highly unlikely that you won't be attacked, simply because players are out to get their honor points.
The previous way seemed to be a little more realistic as far as the world goes. You come across someone of the opposing faction and you can't understand a word they say, so you both sort of pause to wonder what the other person is going to do and if you should do something about it first.
Other people in that thread seem to think that is a small loss and that it's nicer now that people aren't attacking really low level characters anymore. Perhaps the honor rewards are good enough that the honor system will work. Maybe it just needs a little more tweaking.
note: these are not my opinions as I haven't experienced the game enough on either server type, here's the thread if you're interested in reading what they have to say about it : http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=422976&p=1#post422976
People can think of me whatever they want. You are a prime example of ignorance and fit the phrase" Don't judge a book by it's cover". Saying I'm a jerk because of my sig and name is like saying someone worships satan because they have an eyebrow ring and listen to metal. Just shows that you obviously don't have the mental capacity to think any different. It's sad.
Don't like my statement, great. Don't post a discussion thread on something if you don't want it to be discussed good or bad.Like omg someone disagrees with my ideas, he's like obviously a jerk like omg! If my statements in a forum really get you worked up than you should sit by yourself in a closet. That way you never take the risk of someone criticizing your ideas.
p.s. do you evan know what a personal insult is? lets break it down for mr. NoFrontalLobe guy
personal- relating to a person
Insult- too effect damigingly.
I discussed my views on why I like pvp and dislike pve only, the end. Has the Clue Train made it's stop at you yet? Don't worry just play on the tracks and hope to jesus you get hit.
There are definitely different playing styles to consider. It's sad that the powergamers kinda make the more casual players feel inadequate at times. I think your best bet is to be sure and recruit players who want to enjoy the game with you and aren't concerned with how quickly they get to the top. My fiance and I are forming a horde guild on whatever server we make our home. I think we'll be quite selective about the players we recruit so that we end up with a guild of people who suit each other well as far as playing style and personality goes.
As far as raids on the PvE servers go, I experienced it some during the stress test. Usually if some players come in and flag themselves for PvP ( by typing /pvp or attacking a town guard or I think there's a couple other ways) there are almost always players who are willing to go take care of them. Notices like "The Crossroads is under attack!" quickly brings players to that area to see what's going on and to help out.
One complaint I've heard about that is that players can "hide behind the town guard" and wait for the player to flag themselves and then rush them. This happens because some of the town guards are pretty powerful and walking up close enough to them to incur their wrath isn't always in your best interest as the opposing faction player. I didn't see much of that during the stress test, though.
I'm having a hard time finding "omg" in the dictionary....
I hope the chat screen isn't going to be covered in those phrases. Reading "LFG", "WTB", "WTS", "lol", and "wtf" and the countless others doesn't appeal to me. But that's just me. I mean, I can have an opinion right
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I played on the PvP severs on open beta and it was real fun so i think im gonna go PvP.
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