Aion makes you choose your side at character creation and after that, you make a class choice at 10 and that is really it.
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
Horde and Alliance,
Aion will have Asmodian, Elyos, and Baldar (npc)
Horde and alliance multiplyed by how many races and how many starting zones? Aion will draw a big crowd then after the lovin they will settle in at AOC/Warhammer
And out of those races which are the ones that are the most popular? What does that tell you? Besides, you can make your toon look like a troll, orc, dwarf...whatever you like!
I don't get all the hatred. More competition is better for the market, better for us all.
And all of these statistics pulled out of one's own a**.
People will play whatever they consider "fun". All of our opinions do not matter. Only time will tell if NCSoft has struck gold by creating that elusive "fun" factor.
Aion makes you choose your side at character creation and after that, you make a class choice at 10 and that is really it.
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
WOW, way to take one comment out of context. Sure, WOW has two factions and you choose a class. But after that you can do what you want. You can even take a race/character of your choice and run them to another starting area if you want.
Once you get to level 10 or so, you can then go and choose between 2-3 zones to level from 10-20. And the same for level 20-30 and so on and so forth.
My point is that after you choose your side and your class, your choices in Aion (including to PVP or not) are fairly, if not, totally limited.
Want to roll Horde paly, ah shit Belf no other choice.
We can debate this all day long but for me, and the answer I tend to agree with (I didn't come up with it) is that WOW is all about choice. There is nothing in WOW that you have to do. From the lowest level 1 just starting the game to the biggest level 80, the game offers choice every step of the way. You have many different starting zones, you have 2-3 areas to level in for every major leveling span (10-20, 20-20, etc..). I have played off and on since launch and still have yet to do quests in several zones. You have so many dungeons including mutliples at most level ranges. Even at the end game, you have a lot to do even though people want to say its all raid, raid, raid. So again, I think what WOW offers and Aion fails to do, is that WOW offers choice and Aion doesn't. Aion makes you choose your side at character creation and after that, you make a class choice at 10 and that is really it. When I was trying the weekends, I can tell you that alone destroyed my interest in ever creating an alt. In addition, at level 10, you better hope you pick the class you really like because if not, you have to redo 1-10 again and it will be exactly the same. That is why I THINK Aion will not appeal, over time, to the average WOW player. Compared to WOW, AIon feels very claustrophobic. Sure, it will appeal to some and that is great but there are things in the game that won't as well.
WoW may have offered a choice in where you wanted to play at earl levels, but that doesn't matter to me. I leveled all my characters in most of the same areas every time. Why? Because it was much quicker to do the quests I already knew. Some areas had horrible quests. As a matter of fact many quest lines would send you back and forth across the world, which was annoying to me.
WoW did not really offer much as far as character creation. Sure they had more races to choose from. They also had about 6 skins you could choose for your character. I would much rather have 2 races, and be able to create a unique looking character. So yeah, WoW offered more as far as race, but nowhere near the amount of choice in customizing your appearance.
What I don't understand is why people feel the need to attack a game they don't like (and don't even plan on playing). What are these games doing to hurt you? If you have fun in WoW, why not talk about how great WoW is without putting down other games?
Aion makes you choose your side at character creation and after that, you make a class choice at 10 and that is really it.
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
WOW, way to take one comment out of context. Sure, WOW has two factions and you choose a class. But after that you can do what you want. You can even take a race/character of your choice and run them to another starting area if you want.
Once you get to level 10 or so, you can then go and choose between 2-3 zones to level from 10-20. And the same for level 20-30 and so on and so forth.
My point is that after you choose your side and your class, your choices in Aion (including to PVP or not) are fairly, if not, totally limited.
Want to roll Horde paly, ah shit Belf no other choice.
Aion makes you choose your side at character creation and after that, you make a class choice at 10 and that is really it.
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
Horde and Alliance,
Aion will have Asmodian, Elyos, and Baldar (npc)
Horde and alliance multiplyed by how many races and how many starting zones? Aion will draw a big crowd then after the lovin they will settle in at AOC/Warhammer numbers and if lucky LOTRO numbers. Unless the miracle patch known as 1.5 introduces more races/ starting areas, which im sure it will as its going to fix all bugs, all bots, all hacks and introduce everything else known to MMO,s.Yes im very skeptical about this "fix all" patch that you have to buy the game to see. Here kid try this for free, the good stuff comes later.
2 major issues come to mind with your post... they never said it would be a "fix all" patch... infact we know 99% of what is currently in this patch... And, since when do we have to buy it to see the patch? Did you not know it already came out in Korea? Or that we can easily access there info since this is the internet and all...
Maybe you meant to say, that you are supposed to buy the game to actually PLAY the changes, which i would agree with.... But we will know LONG before the game comes out here what is or is not in 1.5 fully. 90 or so % of the changes they are making effect NOTHING we would be doing at under say lvl 30ish, so why would it matter if we were testing 1.0 or 1.5?
What I don't understand is why people feel the need to attack a game they don't like (and don't even plan on playing). What are these games doing to hurt you? If you have fun in WoW, why not talk about how great WoW is without putting down other games?
Exactly what I was thinking. I have played other games, but none which I truly loved after quitting WoW.
It did not compel me to come to these forums and troll another title. Each and every title had something unique, just not the whole package for me.
O.K. game...the best graphic attribute is the avatar itself...looked f@cking awesome. The rest of the graphics were pretty...but not too much weight or depth imo. Looked like a painting most times..not an actual 3d world. It ran very,very smooth. No problems in performance and no bugs that i noticed. It should do well. I'm playing WOW right now though..mostly PvE for years but decided to jump into battlegrounds..and loving it...grinding for half decent gear...to maybe start experiencing raids for better PvE stuff.....or just BGs who knows. I recommend Aion...and would probably play it more often had I not discovered new fun with an old flame.
I know people will say " How can you criticize depth and weight of Aion and like the cartoony WOW?"...but despite it's art style....WoW still has a feeling of weight ..perspective...the odd virtual experience that your avatar is 3d...walking in a 3d world...and making solid footsteps on the solid ground while gazing out into the far distance of a vast horizon.....if that makes any sense. It is better at fooling the senses that way and thus gets bonuses on immersion factors...imo. I wish more mmo developers would consider this when making their games...AoC has a pretty good hold on this illusion as well...only you can't actually travel to everyplace you may see off in the horizon.
Again..Aion is o.k.....but now-a-days you've got to really capture most players right from the beginning...with just how different and not run-of-the mill your game plays...to pull them from another game where they have invested many, many hours. I myself have become one such player...after being disappointed too many times by past mmo launches and/or subsequent changes. Imo..Aion does not do this.
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side. So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended. I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
Its a Korean MMO what is wrong with korea? Its published by NCSoft what is wrong with NCSoft ffs? It doesnt look visually attractive to many people it does It doesnt appear to bring anything new yes it does, read up a bit Its clearly not new itself (being v1.5) what? that means that it is a polished game and not some half-assed beta in disguise So what am I missing? Is it just that since around 2004 all of the recent MMO's have been crap and thus anything that doesnt look 3/10 suddenly jumps into everyones MMO GOTY list? you might be missing a lot, or maybe not I dont get it, I think everyones being blinded by hope and marketing hype and neglecting to see this game for what it really is.. A ho-hum, run of the mill lineage2 clone. looks cool to me, not leaving my old mmo for it but i got my pre-order CE already
It is a slightly better visually than WoW.
It brings nothing new - apart from wings.
The beta I played last weekend was absolutely awful - but it's 'beta', right?
OP is missing nothing from I saw.
I've have pre-ordered too - seems no worse than all the other crap on the market at the moment.
actually you're correct what you played is the beta, there is about 5? patches after the version you played
Aion makes you choose your side at character creation and after that, you make a class choice at 10 and that is really it.
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
WOW, way to take one comment out of context. Sure, WOW has two factions and you choose a class. But after that you can do what you want. You can even take a race/character of your choice and run them to another starting area if you want.
Once you get to level 10 or so, you can then go and choose between 2-3 zones to level from 10-20. And the same for level 20-30 and so on and so forth.
My point is that after you choose your side and your class, your choices in Aion (including to PVP or not) are fairly, if not, totally limited.
Want to roll Horde paly, ah shit Belf no other choice.
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side.
So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended.
I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
just because its added i cant compair? you all compair WoW inc Wotlk with Aion so why shudnt i?
and in WoW of course, you know before hand that the class you roll is gonna be awsome.
Those you have to play till atleast 20 to get the idea aswell
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side. So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended. I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
Thanks for the insults. The issue was raised that Aion would appeal to the common, everyday WOW player. I am arguing that it isn't and that is the point of a forum, debate and discussion.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
yeah i don't believe it will appeal to the everyday wow player, but the ones that are looking for a change and just all around bored with wow will. wow killer its not, i don't want wow to die not sure why people do. one of the main beefs people have with wow is the community and why would you want them to leave a game you don't play?
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side. So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended. I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
I have a friend in real life that has the same problem as the OP. She just cant use phrases like "In my opinion" or "I think that". Its always statements like "That is stupid" or "This is gay" (lol, with my bi girlfriend sitting right there). I've pretty much just stopped talking to her because I dont feel like agruing with a so called "friend" every time we hang out.
I agree with everyone who thinks this kind of behavior is annoying as hell. NCSoft is one of my longtime favorite publishers. I enjoyed the hell outta Lineage II. Aion looks good, I think it will appeal to alot of people. I probably wont play it full time but its a loooooong way from a bad game.
The issue was raised that Aion would appeal to the common, everyday WOW player. I am arguing that it isn't and that is the point of a forum, debate and discussion.
Agree completely.
It won't appeal to the average WoW kid/housewife because it's kinda hard to get good gear (and freakin next to impossible to get the best). Also there's a Death penalty that is significant and hurts a bit. Those are too much of a pain for the average WoW player. A friend (plays WoW and knows squat about any other MMO, like most WoW players) nearly had a heart attack when I was telling him about Eve and how you lost your ship forever once it was destroyed.
WoW has an insane amount of players, however everywhere you go the zones are empty. Why? All the high levels are crammed inside the city queueing arenas, bgs or waiting for some raid. The majority of WoW players like and enjoy that (obviously), so seeing as it isn't so in Aion, it doesn't appeal that much. It's relatively painless, and Blizzard still makes it easier and easier by the week so that every 8 year-old and above enjoys his full tiered gear and his awesomeness and uber skillz.
Of course you need to add to that the art style, the lack of starting areas, the similarity with WoW during the early levels (extremely boring as well) etc. So yea, it won't appeal to the common WoW player, and am I thankful for that!
Its a Korean MMO Its published by NCSoft It doesnt look visually attractive It doesnt appear to bring anything new Its clearly not new itself (being v1.5) So what am I missing? Is it just that since around 2004 all of the recent MMO's have been crap and thus anything that doesnt look 3/10 suddenly jumps into everyones MMO GOTY list? I dont get it, I think everyones being blinded by hope and marketing hype and neglecting to see this game for what it really is.. A ho-hum, run of the mill lineage2 clone.
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side. So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended. I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
Forums would become very boring if it is.
Yes your correct.I remember the AOC hype and the let down as well. I didnt get involved in it as i hadnt experienced anything in the game. Ive played in Aion beta, ive seen things as they are not as what i would like them to be. Just say the game is great and watch the "i agree " posts come running. Mention something not appealing about the game and get flamed. Ive been on both ends of it. I mentioned i thought the graphics were beautiful and i was a god until i mentioned it was linear and forced PVP wasnt going to be a big plus for the game and then im a troll. Oh well, i was a god for a short while anyway.
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side. So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended. I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
Forums would become very boring if it is.
Yes your correct.I remember the AOC hype and the let down as well. I didnt get involved in it as i hadnt experienced anything in the game. Ive played in Aion beta, ive seen things as they are not as what i would like them to be. Just say the game is great and watch the "i agree " posts come running. Mention something not appealing about the game and get flamed. Ive been on both ends of it. I mentioned i thought the graphics were beautiful and i was a god until i mentioned it was linear and forced PVP wasnt going to be a big plus for the game and then im a troll. Oh well, i was a god for a short while anyway.
It works the same way on both sides. I have been accused of being both a troll and a fanboy for Aion. Fact of the matter is, I like the game, I don't like the company, and the followers are sounding more and more like Barrens chat participants as time goes on.
Oh well, just goes to show that most people are sheep . . . not being able to make up their own mind without the acknowledgment of a leader.
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side. So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended. I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
Forums would become very boring if it is.
Yes your correct.I remember the AOC hype and the let down as well. I didnt get involved in it as i hadnt experienced anything in the game. Ive played in Aion beta, ive seen things as they are not as what i would like them to be. Just say the game is great and watch the "i agree " posts come running. Mention something not appealing about the game and get flamed. Ive been on both ends of it. I mentioned i thought the graphics were beautiful and i was a god until i mentioned it was linear and forced PVP wasnt going to be a big plus for the game and then im a troll. Oh well, i was a god for a short while anyway.
It works the same way on both sides. I have been accused of being both a troll and a fanboy for Aion. Fact of the matter is, I like the game, I don't like the company, and the followers are sounding more and more like Barrens chat participants as time goes on.
Oh well, just goes to show that most people are sheep . . . not being able to make up their own mind without the acknowledgment of a leader.
Yes if someone judged the Aion community by this site and Aionsource they would stay far away from this game. Im sure there are mature friendly people that are looking forward to the game and its pretty much understood by everyone that the flame throwing morons talk more than most and the loudest. Im still not sold on the game myself but will continue along in the beta's for awhile longer to see how it all shakes out.
I don't even go to Aionsource anymore..I joined the site in November of 2006 and lets just say ever since Mark got canned and the preview events started the community there went to shit.
I agree with you but Aion fanbois rather insult the poster than actually debate the points they make.....it is common practice in these forums.
You are correct. Aion will not appeal to most WOW players and actually it will make them quite angry when they get to level 20-25+ and Rifts start opening and they realize this game eliminates the player's choice to PVP when they want too. It is simple as that.
WOW players like choice, that is ultimately why the game is so big and why so many people like it. Aion doesn't give you a choice to PVP, it doesn't give a choice of leveling zones, it doesn't even give you a choice of starter zones or races (just 1 per side and that is the only choice you make).
And wow fanbois come here to remind us how terrible the aion community is after spotting a post that might seem agressive towards a trolling thread.
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Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
Horde and Alliance,
Aion will have Asmodian, Elyos, and Baldar (npc)
Horde and alliance multiplyed by how many races and how many starting zones? Aion will draw a big crowd then after the lovin they will settle in at AOC/Warhammer
And out of those races which are the ones that are the most popular? What does that tell you? Besides, you can make your toon look like a troll, orc, dwarf...whatever you like!
I don't get all the hatred. More competition is better for the market, better for us all.
And all of these statistics pulled out of one's own a**.
People will play whatever they consider "fun". All of our opinions do not matter. Only time will tell if NCSoft has struck gold by creating that elusive "fun" factor.
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
WOW, way to take one comment out of context. Sure, WOW has two factions and you choose a class. But after that you can do what you want. You can even take a race/character of your choice and run them to another starting area if you want.
Once you get to level 10 or so, you can then go and choose between 2-3 zones to level from 10-20. And the same for level 20-30 and so on and so forth.
My point is that after you choose your side and your class, your choices in Aion (including to PVP or not) are fairly, if not, totally limited.
Want to roll Horde paly, ah shit Belf no other choice.
WoW may have offered a choice in where you wanted to play at earl levels, but that doesn't matter to me. I leveled all my characters in most of the same areas every time. Why? Because it was much quicker to do the quests I already knew. Some areas had horrible quests. As a matter of fact many quest lines would send you back and forth across the world, which was annoying to me.
WoW did not really offer much as far as character creation. Sure they had more races to choose from. They also had about 6 skins you could choose for your character. I would much rather have 2 races, and be able to create a unique looking character. So yeah, WoW offered more as far as race, but nowhere near the amount of choice in customizing your appearance.
What I don't understand is why people feel the need to attack a game they don't like (and don't even plan on playing). What are these games doing to hurt you? If you have fun in WoW, why not talk about how great WoW is without putting down other games?
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
WOW, way to take one comment out of context. Sure, WOW has two factions and you choose a class. But after that you can do what you want. You can even take a race/character of your choice and run them to another starting area if you want.
Once you get to level 10 or so, you can then go and choose between 2-3 zones to level from 10-20. And the same for level 20-30 and so on and so forth.
My point is that after you choose your side and your class, your choices in Aion (including to PVP or not) are fairly, if not, totally limited.
Want to roll Horde paly, ah shit Belf no other choice.
Brilliant.
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
Horde and Alliance,
Aion will have Asmodian, Elyos, and Baldar (npc)
Horde and alliance multiplyed by how many races and how many starting zones? Aion will draw a big crowd then after the lovin they will settle in at AOC/Warhammer numbers and if lucky LOTRO numbers. Unless the miracle patch known as 1.5 introduces more races/ starting areas, which im sure it will as its going to fix all bugs, all bots, all hacks and introduce everything else known to MMO,s.Yes im very skeptical about this "fix all" patch that you have to buy the game to see. Here kid try this for free, the good stuff comes later.
2 major issues come to mind with your post... they never said it would be a "fix all" patch... infact we know 99% of what is currently in this patch... And, since when do we have to buy it to see the patch? Did you not know it already came out in Korea? Or that we can easily access there info since this is the internet and all...
Maybe you meant to say, that you are supposed to buy the game to actually PLAY the changes, which i would agree with.... But we will know LONG before the game comes out here what is or is not in 1.5 fully. 90 or so % of the changes they are making effect NOTHING we would be doing at under say lvl 30ish, so why would it matter if we were testing 1.0 or 1.5?
Exactly what I was thinking. I have played other games, but none which I truly loved after quitting WoW.
It did not compel me to come to these forums and troll another title. Each and every title had something unique, just not the whole package for me.
O.K. game...the best graphic attribute is the avatar itself...looked f@cking awesome. The rest of the graphics were pretty...but not too much weight or depth imo. Looked like a painting most times..not an actual 3d world. It ran very,very smooth. No problems in performance and no bugs that i noticed. It should do well. I'm playing WOW right now though..mostly PvE for years but decided to jump into battlegrounds..and loving it...grinding for half decent gear...to maybe start experiencing raids for better PvE stuff.....or just BGs who knows. I recommend Aion...and would probably play it more often had I not discovered new fun with an old flame.
I know people will say " How can you criticize depth and weight of Aion and like the cartoony WOW?"...but despite it's art style....WoW still has a feeling of weight ..perspective...the odd virtual experience that your avatar is 3d...walking in a 3d world...and making solid footsteps on the solid ground while gazing out into the far distance of a vast horizon.....if that makes any sense. It is better at fooling the senses that way and thus gets bonuses on immersion factors...imo. I wish more mmo developers would consider this when making their games...AoC has a pretty good hold on this illusion as well...only you can't actually travel to everyplace you may see off in the horizon.
Again..Aion is o.k.....but now-a-days you've got to really capture most players right from the beginning...with just how different and not run-of-the mill your game plays...to pull them from another game where they have invested many, many hours. I myself have become one such player...after being disappointed too many times by past mmo launches and/or subsequent changes. Imo..Aion does not do this.
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
It is a slightly better visually than WoW.
It brings nothing new - apart from wings.
The beta I played last weekend was absolutely awful - but it's 'beta', right?
OP is missing nothing from I saw.
I've have pre-ordered too - seems no worse than all the other crap on the market at the moment.
actually you're correct what you played is the beta, there is about 5? patches after the version you played
Did i miss something or did wow also have 2 factions?
been a while but im sure i had to choose between Horde or alliance
WOW, way to take one comment out of context. Sure, WOW has two factions and you choose a class. But after that you can do what you want. You can even take a race/character of your choice and run them to another starting area if you want.
Once you get to level 10 or so, you can then go and choose between 2-3 zones to level from 10-20. And the same for level 20-30 and so on and so forth.
My point is that after you choose your side and your class, your choices in Aion (including to PVP or not) are fairly, if not, totally limited.
Want to roll Horde paly, ah shit Belf no other choice.
Um, yeah and just like an Alliance Shaman can only be Dranei. However, this was added with BC to help Blizzard balance the sides as it was too time consuming and make raids and encounters equally difficult for Horde and Alliance when, at launch, the classes were not equal per side.
So you comparison fails as this was an added game decisions at a later date and was, in the original game design, never intended.
I rather deal with that than " Oh look, I just got level 10 and chose the Gladiator class and it sucks. Oh well, guess I will have to create an alt, do everything, exactly the same, all the same quests, everything AGAIN just because I don't like my class".
just because its added i cant compair? you all compair WoW inc Wotlk with Aion so why shudnt i?
and in WoW of course, you know before hand that the class you roll is gonna be awsome.
Those you have to play till atleast 20 to get the idea aswell
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
Thanks for the insults. The issue was raised that Aion would appeal to the common, everyday WOW player. I am arguing that it isn't and that is the point of a forum, debate and discussion.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
yeah i don't believe it will appeal to the everyday wow player, but the ones that are looking for a change and just all around bored with wow will. wow killer its not, i don't want wow to die not sure why people do. one of the main beefs people have with wow is the community and why would you want them to leave a game you don't play?
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
Forums would become very boring if it is.
I have a friend in real life that has the same problem as the OP. She just cant use phrases like "In my opinion" or "I think that". Its always statements like "That is stupid" or "This is gay" (lol, with my bi girlfriend sitting right there). I've pretty much just stopped talking to her because I dont feel like agruing with a so called "friend" every time we hang out.
I agree with everyone who thinks this kind of behavior is annoying as hell. NCSoft is one of my longtime favorite publishers. I enjoyed the hell outta Lineage II. Aion looks good, I think it will appeal to alot of people. I probably wont play it full time but its a loooooong way from a bad game.
Agree completely.
It won't appeal to the average WoW kid/housewife because it's kinda hard to get good gear (and freakin next to impossible to get the best). Also there's a Death penalty that is significant and hurts a bit. Those are too much of a pain for the average WoW player. A friend (plays WoW and knows squat about any other MMO, like most WoW players) nearly had a heart attack when I was telling him about Eve and how you lost your ship forever once it was destroyed.
WoW has an insane amount of players, however everywhere you go the zones are empty. Why? All the high levels are crammed inside the city queueing arenas, bgs or waiting for some raid. The majority of WoW players like and enjoy that (obviously), so seeing as it isn't so in Aion, it doesn't appeal that much. It's relatively painless, and Blizzard still makes it easier and easier by the week so that every 8 year-old and above enjoys his full tiered gear and his awesomeness and uber skillz.
Of course you need to add to that the art style, the lack of starting areas, the similarity with WoW during the early levels (extremely boring as well) etc. So yea, it won't appeal to the common WoW player, and am I thankful for that!
Let's wait till we see some subscriber numbers
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Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
Forums would become very boring if it is.
Yes your correct.I remember the AOC hype and the let down as well. I didnt get involved in it as i hadnt experienced anything in the game. Ive played in Aion beta, ive seen things as they are not as what i would like them to be. Just say the game is great and watch the "i agree " posts come running. Mention something not appealing about the game and get flamed. Ive been on both ends of it. I mentioned i thought the graphics were beautiful and i was a god until i mentioned it was linear and forced PVP wasnt going to be a big plus for the game and then im a troll. Oh well, i was a god for a short while anyway.
Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
Forums would become very boring if it is.
Yes your correct.I remember the AOC hype and the let down as well. I didnt get involved in it as i hadnt experienced anything in the game. Ive played in Aion beta, ive seen things as they are not as what i would like them to be. Just say the game is great and watch the "i agree " posts come running. Mention something not appealing about the game and get flamed. Ive been on both ends of it. I mentioned i thought the graphics were beautiful and i was a god until i mentioned it was linear and forced PVP wasnt going to be a big plus for the game and then im a troll. Oh well, i was a god for a short while anyway.
It works the same way on both sides. I have been accused of being both a troll and a fanboy for Aion. Fact of the matter is, I like the game, I don't like the company, and the followers are sounding more and more like Barrens chat participants as time goes on.
Oh well, just goes to show that most people are sheep . . . not being able to make up their own mind without the acknowledgment of a leader.
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Do you think complaining or being annoying is going to accomplish anything? You're not even "discussing" anything you're just saying it's limited and there will never be a mircale patch... making foolish statments that getting to level 10 and having to start over. Do you think you can get a good grasp on classes in WoW untill at least level 10? No.
Trying to discredit anyone who is excited for this game? Lame.
I am SO sorry, I was not aware that this was a "DO NOT CRITICIZE AION" zone.
Forums would become very boring if it is.
Yes your correct.I remember the AOC hype and the let down as well. I didnt get involved in it as i hadnt experienced anything in the game. Ive played in Aion beta, ive seen things as they are not as what i would like them to be. Just say the game is great and watch the "i agree " posts come running. Mention something not appealing about the game and get flamed. Ive been on both ends of it. I mentioned i thought the graphics were beautiful and i was a god until i mentioned it was linear and forced PVP wasnt going to be a big plus for the game and then im a troll. Oh well, i was a god for a short while anyway.
It works the same way on both sides. I have been accused of being both a troll and a fanboy for Aion. Fact of the matter is, I like the game, I don't like the company, and the followers are sounding more and more like Barrens chat participants as time goes on.
Oh well, just goes to show that most people are sheep . . . not being able to make up their own mind without the acknowledgment of a leader.
Yes if someone judged the Aion community by this site and Aionsource they would stay far away from this game. Im sure there are mature friendly people that are looking forward to the game and its pretty much understood by everyone that the flame throwing morons talk more than most and the loudest. Im still not sold on the game myself but will continue along in the beta's for awhile longer to see how it all shakes out.
I don't even go to Aionsource anymore..I joined the site in November of 2006 and lets just say ever since Mark got canned and the preview events started the community there went to shit.
I agree with you but Aion fanbois rather insult the poster than actually debate the points they make.....it is common practice in these forums.
You are correct. Aion will not appeal to most WOW players and actually it will make them quite angry when they get to level 20-25+ and Rifts start opening and they realize this game eliminates the player's choice to PVP when they want too. It is simple as that.
WOW players like choice, that is ultimately why the game is so big and why so many people like it. Aion doesn't give you a choice to PVP, it doesn't give a choice of leveling zones, it doesn't even give you a choice of starter zones or races (just 1 per side and that is the only choice you make).
And wow fanbois come here to remind us how terrible the aion community is after spotting a post that might seem agressive towards a trolling thread.
This is our day.