After playing both Aion and CO, i cancelled my Aion pre order and promptly pre ordered CO I think it s that good.
The best thing Aion has going for it is the polish. If CO manages to be polished as well, and if the design decisions they made truly improve on CoH's faults, then CO will be a viable contender.
Agreed, Aion is polished for sure, I was amazed at how polished it was. That said on pure enjoyment, CO was way better for me. Don t get me wrong CO is very polished from what I ve seen. When it comes down to it, it s fun that matters to me and CO has it for sure. Besides I m sick of the fantasy setting, love it but need a break from it for awhile.
I feel the same way currently. I played CoH/CoV for a while, and most recently have been playing WoW and LotR:O. I'm looking forward to a change of scenery. The change of combat pace should be interesting as well. Overall I'm pretty excited about this games release. I think it has a lot of promise.
Regarding the item mall, I was under the impression that the items available would be mostly cosmetic in nature and wouldn't have an effect on actual gameplay. Not having seen it, one instance I could see this is if you wanted to use a costume piece which has already been copyrighted, thus requiring a licensing fee. Not sure if that's the case, but I agree in that players shouldn't be able to purchase an advantage over other players in PvP.
Item mall is a non issue. As you described it is bang on. Fluff items, and any items that are on the store you may want can be obtained through gameplay. Like quests, drops etc. Some people will make a big deal out of it, but to the average gamer it means nothing. As I ve said before if you want to buy your way to the top go for it, I ll play the game the way it s meant to be played. That said play how you want, it won t effect me
After playing both Aion and CO, i cancelled my Aion pre order and promptly pre ordered CO I think it s that good.
The best thing Aion has going for it is the polish. If CO manages to be polished as well, and if the design decisions they made truly improve on CoH's faults, then CO will be a viable contender.
Agreed, Aion is polished for sure, I was amazed at how polished it was. That said on pure enjoyment, CO was way better for me. Don t get me wrong CO is very polished from what I ve seen. When it comes down to it, it s fun that matters to me and CO has it for sure. Besides I m sick of the fantasy setting, love it but need a break from it for awhile.
I feel the same way currently. I played CoH/CoV for a while, and most recently have been playing WoW and LotR:O. I'm looking forward to a change of scenery. The change of combat pace should be interesting as well. Overall I'm pretty excited about this games release. I think it has a lot of promise.
Regarding the item mall, I was under the impression that the items available would be mostly cosmetic in nature and wouldn't have an effect on actual gameplay. Not having seen it, one instance I could see this is if you wanted to use a costume piece which has already been copyrighted, thus requiring a licensing fee. Not sure if that's the case, but I agree in that players shouldn't be able to purchase an advantage over other players in PvP.
That's currently my biggest concern, but I doubt Cryptic would be stupid enough to try to charge a sub, plus require an item shop for the best or most powerful items. If they are all cosmetic, I don't mind. It's just vanity, and both parties win: you get whatever you want to look cool, and Cryptic gets a few extra bucks.
Of course people will still whine, but as long as it's all cosmetic...
Myself and the other beta testers have been trying our best to break it. There has been a LOT of polishing and tweaking in the last few months and the devs and community team have been active and effective to our feedback. (I hope I'm not breaking the NDA with this)
As for the Item mall, meh, I comes up as zero on my radar. It's just not relevant to me. If a game is fun then I will play. This game is fun and so I will play it. That simple.
Is it ready? I would say I will be able to tell you when the last big patch goes in 3 days before it goes live. I couldn't give you an definite judgement until the final adjustments that are being discussed are implemented and tweaked. The open beta hits in august and I think the NDA will be lifted then too. I'm sure everyone will hear loads about it.
I will say that I spend about half the time killing and the other half doing other interesting things that I can't talk about so for me there's plenty to do. I like it and I want it now.
There is NO miracle patch.
95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.
Hope is not a stategy. ______________________________ "This kind of topic is like one of those little cartoon boxes held up by a stick on a string, with a piece of meat under it. In other words, bait."
One thing I know for sure is that the Cryptic Item Mall for you to spend your real money in is definitely ready.
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall.
Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet. Makes me even more certain that the Shop IS ready and feedback on it isn't going to change anything.
Originally posted by EricDanie Originally posted by Leethe
Originally posted by EricDanie One thing I know for sure is that the Cryptic Item Mall for you to spend your real money in is definitely ready.
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall. Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet.
yeah dude! 6 guys just kicked down my front door!!! they tied me up and forced me to give them all my banking details to Cryptic. Then they had me sign over over of attorney, adoption rights to my 1st born and my TR dogtags. Then they removed my internal organs and sold them on eBay. major agro!!! I only convinced them to leave by taking out a 2nd mortgage on my house and giving them the cash and agreeing to play the gimp at their next party. OMG!!!!
There is NO miracle patch.
95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.
Hope is not a stategy. ______________________________ "This kind of topic is like one of those little cartoon boxes held up by a stick on a string, with a piece of meat under it. In other words, bait."
One thing I know for sure is that the Cryptic Item Mall for you to spend your real money in is definitely ready.
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall.
Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet.
yeah dude! 6 guys just kicked down my front door!!! they tied me up and forced me to give them all my banking details to Cryptic. Then they had me sign over over of attorney, adoption rights to my 1st born and my TR dogtags. Then they removed my internal organs and sold them on eBay. major agro!!! I only convinced them to leave by taking out a 2nd mortgage on my house and giving them the cash and agreeing to play the gimp at their next party. OMG!!!!
I've been in the beta since April. The game has come a LONG way over the last few months. At first I was like... meh. Now I count the days to the next play test.
The game's biggest challenge will be player education. There are so many choices that it will overwhelm many people. Nothing that an hour spent RTFM wouldn't cure though. Remember when RPG's used to come with big thick manuals with bestiaries and all that good stuff? I kinda doubt CO will have one like that, but hopefully it will be enough to get people started without too much fuss.
Regardless of what so many have said, with the particular choices Cryptic has made at this point, at launch, it will be as ready as it will ever be. I will not dictate whether or not that is for the better or worse, but everyone who's interested better get in Open Beta and get that free play time.... this will be a very hit or miss with the community for certain.
One thing I know for sure is that the Cryptic Item Mall for you to spend your real money in is definitely ready.
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall.
Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet.
yeah dude! 6 guys just kicked down my front door!!! they tied me up and forced me to give them all my banking details to Cryptic. Then they had me sign over over of attorney, adoption rights to my 1st born and my TR dogtags. Then they removed my internal organs and sold them on eBay. major agro!!! I only convinced them to leave by taking out a 2nd mortgage on my house and giving them the cash and agreeing to play the gimp at their next party. OMG!!!!
Just because you can not grasp the implications of the payment model does not mean we all have to be ignorant consumers. You think in the long run a few dollars more is going to break us? No but it will feed the company millions more than other games, games we get these things for as part of the subscription fee. I have two WoW accounts, two EvE accounts and an AoC account running now, I'm not fearful of spending money on video games, it's part of my hobby. I'm worried idiots will make this venture successful enough that it becomes the industry standard. Your apathy is fuel for that, accepting what you're spoon fed because to be honest you don't know any better and you've been trained to respond this way.
There is way to much content that i see so far. I am only at lvl 24. At 25 you will be able to make a nemesis who will interup missions you are on. Be part of you over all story. He or She will be a very big party of other people universe too. There is always the character creation allot bigger then CoX. You also are able to change your powers look. you can also change where the powers come from fist, open hand, chest , eye, etc...
Do you make your nemesis at level 25 or do you make your nemesis during your character creation and encounter him at level 25?
I thought I heard somewhere (possibly a video?) that you make your nemesis during character creation.
Also, how quickly can you level...not that I'm into powerleveling, just curious how "grindy" the process is.
Argh! But Item Mall! I'm so angry I could download a torrent.
I am getting into beta in August and am looking forward to it, most everything I hear is positive. Been following since Feb. 08 so expecations are high...
In regards to the "item mall", it is much ado about nothing, Cryptic released a statement saying that the items sold in the store are not gameplay impacting and are primarly cosmetic. Anything availble there is unlockable in the game. To me it sounds like it appeals to casual gamers, so they can have cool items like the hardcore people have.
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The best thing Aion has going for it is the polish. If CO manages to be polished as well, and if the design decisions they made truly improve on CoH's faults, then CO will be a viable contender.
Agreed, Aion is polished for sure, I was amazed at how polished it was. That said on pure enjoyment, CO was way better for me. Don t get me wrong CO is very polished from what I ve seen. When it comes down to it, it s fun that matters to me and CO has it for sure. Besides I m sick of the fantasy setting, love it but need a break from it for awhile.
I feel the same way currently. I played CoH/CoV for a while, and most recently have been playing WoW and LotR:O. I'm looking forward to a change of scenery. The change of combat pace should be interesting as well. Overall I'm pretty excited about this games release. I think it has a lot of promise.
Regarding the item mall, I was under the impression that the items available would be mostly cosmetic in nature and wouldn't have an effect on actual gameplay. Not having seen it, one instance I could see this is if you wanted to use a costume piece which has already been copyrighted, thus requiring a licensing fee. Not sure if that's the case, but I agree in that players shouldn't be able to purchase an advantage over other players in PvP.
Item mall is a non issue. As you described it is bang on. Fluff items, and any items that are on the store you may want can be obtained through gameplay. Like quests, drops etc. Some people will make a big deal out of it, but to the average gamer it means nothing. As I ve said before if you want to buy your way to the top go for it, I ll play the game the way it s meant to be played. That said play how you want, it won t effect me
The best thing Aion has going for it is the polish. If CO manages to be polished as well, and if the design decisions they made truly improve on CoH's faults, then CO will be a viable contender.
Agreed, Aion is polished for sure, I was amazed at how polished it was. That said on pure enjoyment, CO was way better for me. Don t get me wrong CO is very polished from what I ve seen. When it comes down to it, it s fun that matters to me and CO has it for sure. Besides I m sick of the fantasy setting, love it but need a break from it for awhile.
I feel the same way currently. I played CoH/CoV for a while, and most recently have been playing WoW and LotR:O. I'm looking forward to a change of scenery. The change of combat pace should be interesting as well. Overall I'm pretty excited about this games release. I think it has a lot of promise.
Regarding the item mall, I was under the impression that the items available would be mostly cosmetic in nature and wouldn't have an effect on actual gameplay. Not having seen it, one instance I could see this is if you wanted to use a costume piece which has already been copyrighted, thus requiring a licensing fee. Not sure if that's the case, but I agree in that players shouldn't be able to purchase an advantage over other players in PvP.
That's currently my biggest concern, but I doubt Cryptic would be stupid enough to try to charge a sub, plus require an item shop for the best or most powerful items. If they are all cosmetic, I don't mind. It's just vanity, and both parties win: you get whatever you want to look cool, and Cryptic gets a few extra bucks.
Of course people will still whine, but as long as it's all cosmetic...
Myself and the other beta testers have been trying our best to break it. There has been a LOT of polishing and tweaking in the last few months and the devs and community team have been active and effective to our feedback. (I hope I'm not breaking the NDA with this)
As for the Item mall, meh, I comes up as zero on my radar. It's just not relevant to me. If a game is fun then I will play. This game is fun and so I will play it. That simple.
Is it ready? I would say I will be able to tell you when the last big patch goes in 3 days before it goes live. I couldn't give you an definite judgement until the final adjustments that are being discussed are implemented and tweaked. The open beta hits in august and I think the NDA will be lifted then too. I'm sure everyone will hear loads about it.
I will say that I spend about half the time killing and the other half doing other interesting things that I can't talk about so for me there's plenty to do. I like it and I want it now.
There is NO miracle patch.
95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.
Hope is not a stategy.
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"This kind of topic is like one of those little cartoon boxes held up by a stick on a string, with a piece of meat under it. In other words, bait."
360 controller really? maybe i must buy one for this game then lol
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall.
Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet. Makes me even more certain that the Shop IS ready and feedback on it isn't going to change anything.
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall.
Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet.
yeah dude! 6 guys just kicked down my front door!!! they tied me up and forced me to give them all my banking details to Cryptic. Then they had me sign over over of attorney, adoption rights to my 1st born and my TR dogtags. Then they removed my internal organs and sold them on eBay. major agro!!! I only convinced them to leave by taking out a 2nd mortgage on my house and giving them the cash and agreeing to play the gimp at their next party. OMG!!!!
There is NO miracle patch.
95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.
Hope is not a stategy.
______________________________
"This kind of topic is like one of those little cartoon boxes held up by a stick on a string, with a piece of meat under it. In other words, bait."
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall.
Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet.
yeah dude! 6 guys just kicked down my front door!!! they tied me up and forced me to give them all my banking details to Cryptic. Then they had me sign over over of attorney, adoption rights to my 1st born and my TR dogtags. Then they removed my internal organs and sold them on eBay. major agro!!! I only convinced them to leave by taking out a 2nd mortgage on my house and giving them the cash and agreeing to play the gimp at their next party. OMG!!!!
They took your TR dog tags?!?! Those bastards!
it's a cool game, since iam in beta (3 months or so) i had a lot of fun, but they have still a lot to fix and tweak!
I've been in the beta since April. The game has come a LONG way over the last few months. At first I was like... meh. Now I count the days to the next play test.
The game's biggest challenge will be player education. There are so many choices that it will overwhelm many people. Nothing that an hour spent RTFM wouldn't cure though. Remember when RPG's used to come with big thick manuals with bestiaries and all that good stuff? I kinda doubt CO will have one like that, but hopefully it will be enough to get people started without too much fuss.
Regardless of what so many have said, with the particular choices Cryptic has made at this point, at launch, it will be as ready as it will ever be. I will not dictate whether or not that is for the better or worse, but everyone who's interested better get in Open Beta and get that free play time.... this will be a very hit or miss with the community for certain.
CoH had a nearly flawless launch, I can't see this being any different. This will be my one and only MMO for the next couple of years, guaranteed.
Really? Wow because I played all weekend and didn't see a thing about an item mall.
Is that true? It's even more suspicious if they haven't even shown what's avaiable in it for the beta testers yet.
yeah dude! 6 guys just kicked down my front door!!! they tied me up and forced me to give them all my banking details to Cryptic. Then they had me sign over over of attorney, adoption rights to my 1st born and my TR dogtags. Then they removed my internal organs and sold them on eBay. major agro!!! I only convinced them to leave by taking out a 2nd mortgage on my house and giving them the cash and agreeing to play the gimp at their next party. OMG!!!!
Just because you can not grasp the implications of the payment model does not mean we all have to be ignorant consumers. You think in the long run a few dollars more is going to break us? No but it will feed the company millions more than other games, games we get these things for as part of the subscription fee. I have two WoW accounts, two EvE accounts and an AoC account running now, I'm not fearful of spending money on video games, it's part of my hobby. I'm worried idiots will make this venture successful enough that it becomes the industry standard. Your apathy is fuel for that, accepting what you're spoon fed because to be honest you don't know any better and you've been trained to respond this way.
Do you make your nemesis at level 25 or do you make your nemesis during your character creation and encounter him at level 25?
I thought I heard somewhere (possibly a video?) that you make your nemesis during character creation.
Also, how quickly can you level...not that I'm into powerleveling, just curious how "grindy" the process is.
Thanks
No, this happens in game
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
Sounds good, I have high hopes.
Argh! But Item Mall! I'm so angry I could download a torrent.
I am getting into beta in August and am looking forward to it, most everything I hear is positive. Been following since Feb. 08 so expecations are high...
In regards to the "item mall", it is much ado about nothing, Cryptic released a statement saying that the items sold in the store are not gameplay impacting and are primarly cosmetic. Anything availble there is unlockable in the game. To me it sounds like it appeals to casual gamers, so they can have cool items like the hardcore people have.
The decision to play Champions Online instead of Aion was the right move for me. It is well worth the wait if you are not in beta.