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"Griefing" and "Ganking" are myths. They don't exist

MrblurayMrbluray Member Posts: 248

There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking".   They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head.

Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them?  Are you "ganking" them?  Of course not.   There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing".   Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.

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  • CromicaCromica Member UncommonPosts: 657
    Originally posted by Mrbluray


    There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking".   They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. 
    Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them?  Are you "ganking" them?  Of course not.   There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing".   Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.

     

    You are an idiot

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.

    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.

    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990

    Now you're just being annoying.  Give it a rest already.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.
    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.
    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.

    I would agree with all you say except for your theory of why griefers grief. Im more of the opinion that they have most likely lost their milk money on a regular basis and use this as a way to convince themselves of their manhood. 

  • MrblurayMrbluray Member Posts: 248
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.
    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.
    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.

     

    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?

     

    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by grandpagamer
    Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.
    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.
    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.
    I would agree with all you say except for your theory of why griefers grief. Im more of the opinion that they have most likely lost their milk money on a regular basis and use this as a way to convince themselves of their manhood. 

    Well being bullied is abuse too. I didn't mean any specific form of abuse, just kids who can't beat people up in real life, but have a lot of anger issues.

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


     

    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     
    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.

    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.

    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.





    I would agree with all you say except for your theory of why griefers grief. Im more of the opinion that they have most likely lost their milk money on a regular basis and use this as a way to convince themselves of their manhood. 

     

    Well being bullied is abuse too. I didn't mean any specific form of abuse, just kids who can't beat people up in real life, but have a lot of anger issues.

    Agreed. In my line of work i see a lot of people like this in the form of domestic abuse in one form or another. Once they get to the facility they are quite frightened as they know who their "room mates' will be.

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by Mrbluray

    Originally posted by xaldraxius

    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.
    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.
    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.


     
    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?
     
    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?

    You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality.

    If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it?

  • MrblurayMrbluray Member Posts: 248
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


     

    Originally posted by Mrbluray


    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     
    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.

    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.

    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.

     

    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?

     

    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?

     

    You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality.

    If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it?

     

    Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me.  Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about.  The only concern I think about is how to win. Why is thinking about anything else necessary?

  • lorechaserlorechaser Member Posts: 124
    Originally posted by Mrbluray


     
    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?
     
    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?

     

    I realize this is nothing but a troll thread, but do you realize that the sentence you typed there is something most often associated with sociopaths?

    Also, you can't control how other people drive, so why not just go through red lights and drive over pedestrians?

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    And many more.

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by Mrbluray
    Originally posted by xaldraxius  

    Originally posted by Mrbluray

    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     
    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.
    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.
    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.
     
    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?
     
    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?


     
    You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality.
    If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it?


     
    Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me.  Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about.  The only concern I think about is how to win. 

    Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;)

  • MrblurayMrbluray Member Posts: 248
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


     

    Originally posted by Mrbluray


    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     
     





    Originally posted by Mrbluray




    Originally posted by xaldraxius

     

    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.

    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.

    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.

     
     



     

    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?

     

    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?





     

    You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality.

    If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it?





     

    Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me.  Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about.  The only concern I think about is how to win. 

     

    Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;)

    Learn to control your emotions.  This is why there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing".   It is all in your head.

    When it comes to competition,  emotions get in the way.  

  • FunkyLasagneFunkyLasagne Member Posts: 339

    **** me, it's Mr Spock! :P

  • blackthornnblackthornn Member UncommonPosts: 617
    Originally posted by Mrbluray

    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.
    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.
    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.

     

    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?

     

    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?

     

    wow, great example of sociopathic behaviour.  you'll do well in Aion.

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  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by Mrbluray
    Originally posted by xaldraxius  

    Originally posted by Mrbluray

    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     
     Originally posted by Mrbluray
    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     
    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.
    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.
    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.
     
     
     
    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?
     
    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?



     
    You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality.
    If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it?



     
    Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me.  Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about.  The only concern I think about is how to win. 


     
    Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;)


    Learn to control your emotions.  This is why there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing".   It is all in your head.
    When it comes to competition,  emotions get in the way.  


    Not true my friend. Emotions do a lot in any form of competition. Without passion you can never rise above the limits of your technical skill, and without ambition you'll never strive to be the best. If you don't have a sense of accomplishment or even the 'spirit' of competition then you still haven't answered my question: Why play?

  • u18bu2sa0ku18bu2sa0k Member Posts: 144

    its much easier to follow the Zero Fairness rule.

    do the wastelander style!

  • MrblurayMrbluray Member Posts: 248
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


     

    Originally posted by Mrbluray


    Originally posted by xaldraxius
     
     





    Originally posted by Mrbluray




    Originally posted by xaldraxius

     

     

     
     

     
    Originally posted by Mrbluray



     
    Originally posted by xaldraxius

     

    You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing.

    There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations.

    Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.

     

     

     



     

    When I do PvP, I do it  with little to no feeling or emotion.   Am I an AI?

     

    Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others.  WHy should I be?  I can't control how others feel.  Why worry about something you can't control?

     

     





     

    You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality.

    If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it?

     

     





     

    Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me.  Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about.  The only concern I think about is how to win. 





     

    Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;)





    Learn to control your emotions.  This is why there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing".   It is all in your head.

    When it comes to competition,  emotions get in the way.  

     



    Not true my friend. Emotions do a lot in any form of competition. Without passion you can never rise above the limits of your technical skill, and without ambition you'll never strive to be the best. If you don't have a sense of accomplishment or even the 'spirit' of competition then you still haven't answered my question: Why play?

     

    Why play?  To win.   Why else would anyone play?  

     

  • MrblurayMrbluray Member Posts: 248
    Originally posted by u18bu2sa0k


    its much easier to follow the Zero Fairness rule.
    do the wastelander style!

     

    Fairness is irrelevant.

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    Why do you feel the need to win?

  • NekrataalNekrataal Member Posts: 557

    "Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me. Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about."

     

    You & your kin are a plague on this world. The root of much of what is broken & immoral in today society gone bad.

    Go educate yourself on why the impact of your actions IS very important in a community & whats the only corse of action that will benefit you & not hinder after a while.

    Seriously... you have to do it for yourself. I'm not hating, just trying to help.

  • MrblurayMrbluray Member Posts: 248
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    Why do you feel the need to win?

     

    Because winning is better than losing.

    If you don't win, you grind harder so you win next time.  

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by Mrbluray
    Originally posted by xaldraxius Why do you feel the need to win?
     
    Because winning is better than losing.
    If you don't win, you grind harder so you win next time.  

    How is winning better than losing if you don't feel anything? Is it because people think you are cool when you are a winner?

  • dhayes68dhayes68 Member UncommonPosts: 1,388

    Griefing is when you enjoy and set out to ruin someone elses enjoyment of the game. Griefing is when the griefer is not playing against the char in the game, but is playing specifically to annoy the other player outside of the game.  Its not about winning a fight, scoring point, achieving an objective in the context of the game. Griefing solely about you getting your fun by ruining someone elses fun.

     

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Originally posted by Mrbluray


    There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking".   They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head.
    Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them?  Are you "ganking" them?  Of course not.   There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing".   Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.



     

    Except there are many players who pride themselves on griefing and ganking. Therefore it is real to them therefore it is real.

    Besides, it doesn't matter whether or not you care about what other players feel. You are not the epicenter of humanity. If they say they fee it they feel it. Regardless of your opinion.

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  • EuphorykEuphoryk Member Posts: 450
    Originally posted by Mrbluray


    Why play?  To win.   Why else would anyone play?  
     

     

    For fun?

    To enjoy the company of friends that might also play for the fun of the game?

    Just as a way to kill some time perhaps?

    I know plenty of military families that play online games just to be able to have some extra time socializing with people they love, but have no other way of staying in contact with due to being deployed overseas, etc...

    The internet opens up a wide avenue of possibilities, you are looking at things from a far too limited viewpoint. Expand your horizons and stop seeing everything one way and one way only.

    From what I can see by your prior statements, the distinction you fail to grasp is that just because you have competitive spirit and enjoy winning above all else, does not guarantee that other players will or must do the same. I'm not saying your are trying to force others into sharing your opinion, because I can clearly see that is not the case, but I do think you need a more open mind when it comes to dealing with others and why they're opinions may vary from your own (especially on a public forum).

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