You are both right, and it does make sense from a business perspective. No doubt this will bring in more money for Uncle George than SWG. As Suvroc pointed out on mmofringe.com, between this and TOR, SWG is very much a dead duck in the water. Still, this news makes me feel gross in a 'Luke kissed his sister kind of way'. We all knew the powers that be have no limits as to how far they'll whore the IP. But this takes the cake (up there with Jar Jars Super Bombad Racing).
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Nothing more than a bone thrown at SOE, by LA, for losing SWG at the release of TOR.
Heh, it's quite the meaty bone SOE has been throwen
This will make two Star Wars games SOE has that are based on the period of Star Wars that is most actively being marketed in the media, on TV, in books and in the cinema. They have the biggest opportunities to ride on the wave of Star Wars popularity already built up by these campaigns. Bioware on the other hand is in a time period that (relatively) very few know much about. I'm NOT saying TOR is destined to be less popular, I'm sure it'll attract a healthy population of die-hards, but this new Clone Wars MMO and SWG certainly aren't out of the picture.
I can see the new Star Wars MMO from SOE as being targetted at kids from 7 yrs to 18+ yrs. It will most likely be a game that these kids will play for a few hours after school before dinner and homework. Yes adults will probably like it as well but the target audience will most likely be the kids. Since SOE will also be developing this new game, I am really expecting them to, more or less, put SWG to the back of the bus and focus most if it's energy on the development and promotion of the new game. Why? Because that is how SOE treats their older gamnes. They "Use It and Abuse It" then throw it to the wayside when something new comes along.
My prediction will be that SW:TOR will have a HUGE subscriber base follow by the Clone Wars MMO(because quite alot of people will not buy SOE games) and finally SWG will limp along with fewer servers and fewer subs.
Two things here: either SOE are jealous of Bioware and begged LA for another project, or LA just got that much dumber and gave SOE another go despite what they've done with SWG.
My bets is if SOE does do this game, it'll be heavily on RMT/TCG bullcrap, and yes SWG indeed looks looks like it's closer to getting the plug pulled. How SOE can support another SW MMO after sizing down the SWG devs/servers/content, when they have most of their resources focused on DCU right now.
You are both right, and it does make sense from a business perspective. No doubt this will bring in more money for Uncle George than SWG. As Suvroc pointed out on mmofringe.com, between this and TOR, SWG is very much a dead duck in the water. Still, this news makes me feel gross in a 'Luke kissed his sister kind of way'. We all knew the powers that be have no limits as to how far they'll whore the IP. But this takes the cake (up there with Jar Jars Super Bombad Racing).
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Nothing more than a bone thrown at SOE, by LA, for losing SWG at the release of TOR.
Heh, it's quite the meaty bone SOE has been throwen
This will make two Star Wars games SOE has that are based on the period of Star Wars that is most actively being marketed in the media, on TV, in books and in the cinema. They have the biggest opportunities to ride on the wave of Star Wars popularity already built up by these campaigns. Bioware on the other hand is in a time period that (relatively) very few know much about. I'm NOT saying TOR is destined to be less popular, I'm sure it'll attract a healthy population of die-hards, but this new Clone Wars MMO and SWG certainly aren't out of the picture.
You sound pretty sure that this is more than a rumour. YOu know something you're not spilling?
Sony marketing has improved is my opinion atm.
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You are both right, and it does make sense from a business perspective. No doubt this will bring in more money for Uncle George than SWG. As Suvroc pointed out on mmofringe.com, between this and TOR, SWG is very much a dead duck in the water. Still, this news makes me feel gross in a 'Luke kissed his sister kind of way'. We all knew the powers that be have no limits as to how far they'll whore the IP. But this takes the cake (up there with Jar Jars Super Bombad Racing).
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Uh, FreeRealms? The game this new SW MMO is suppose to be based on? The game that's going to be a browser based game?
You are both right, and it does make sense from a business perspective. No doubt this will bring in more money for Uncle George than SWG. As Suvroc pointed out on mmofringe.com, between this and TOR, SWG is very much a dead duck in the water. Still, this news makes me feel gross in a 'Luke kissed his sister kind of way'. We all knew the powers that be have no limits as to how far they'll whore the IP. But this takes the cake (up there with Jar Jars Super Bombad Racing).
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
You are both right, and it does make sense from a business perspective. No doubt this will bring in more money for Uncle George than SWG. As Suvroc pointed out on mmofringe.com, between this and TOR, SWG is very much a dead duck in the water. Still, this news makes me feel gross in a 'Luke kissed his sister kind of way'. We all knew the powers that be have no limits as to how far they'll whore the IP. But this takes the cake (up there with Jar Jars Super Bombad Racing).
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
It doesn't have a PS3 client yet, as far as I knew so I imagine this could probably end up being something like with SWG and the PS2.
It could end up like that. It's sceduled for Q4 2009, so soon. Guess we will find out.
And incase you missed it, above I typed out "As a side note, Freerealms is browser based (It uses Java). Just in a different way. So it would be just as easy to move this rumored SW MMO to the console.". It's not the type of browser game you are thinking.
You are both right, and it does make sense from a business perspective. No doubt this will bring in more money for Uncle George than SWG. As Suvroc pointed out on mmofringe.com, between this and TOR, SWG is very much a dead duck in the water. Still, this news makes me feel gross in a 'Luke kissed his sister kind of way'. We all knew the powers that be have no limits as to how far they'll whore the IP. But this takes the cake (up there with Jar Jars Super Bombad Racing).
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
It doesn't have a PS3 client yet, as far as I knew so I imagine this could probably end up being something like with SWG and the PS2.
I sincerly doubt it.
I'm no expert on consoles but I would have to think that back in '03 SWG would have been too complex to work with the PS2. Now take something as advanced as the PS3 and combine it with something as simply as Free Releams and I think it would be fairly easy (comparitively at least) to work on a console.
Besides, it seems that this was the intention of combining SoE with SCE. Take a look at this clip from an article on Kotaku..
"Massive Multiplayer Online Gaming arrives on PLAYSTATION®3 with DC Universe Online™, The Agency™ and FreeRealms™
Leipzig Games Convention, August 2008: Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) announced today that SCEE has joined forces with Sony Online Entertainment LLC (SOE) – developer of groundbreaking online Massive Multiplayer Online (MMOs) games including the wildly popular EverQuest® — in an arrangement that will bring a whole new dimension to PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3™) gaming.
Under the new agreement, SCEE will publish and distribute three MMOs developed by SOE for PS3 throughout the PAL territories. In addition, SCEE will also publish DC Universe and The Agency on behalf of SOE in the PAL territories. The new arrangement allows SCEE to benefit from SOE’s experience in a different area of video gaming publishing, one which opens up a whole host of possibilities for PS3.
The games included in the agreement are The Agency (PS3), a fast-paced, action shooter set in an present day online persistent world of bullets, bomb blasts, and betrayal; DC Universe Online (PS3 and PC), an action-focused super-hero game in a fully realized DC Universe Online; and Free Realms (PS3), a vibrant new world for younger players with an exciting mix of reality and fantasy.
“This is an opportunity for SCEE and SOE to bring the best online experiences from PC gaming to the PLAYSTATION 3 universe, the result of which will certainly benefit PlayStation fans,” said David Reeves, President, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe."
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible. I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed? SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out. If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Uh, FreeRealms? The game this new SW MMO is suppose to be based on? The game that's going to be a browser based game?
Keep in mind Free Realms, The Agency and DC online were all in development prior to SOE being restructured into SCE. It is very likely that SCE doesn't have the slighest concern with the PC mmo market, especially with how poorly soe has been performing there.
Most likely SCE is only concerned with boosting the PS3 in any way possible and any efforts towards the PC market are secondary concerns, but all three of those mmos were already being developed for the PC market.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible. I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed? SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out. If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Uh, FreeRealms? The game this new SW MMO is suppose to be based on? The game that's going to be a browser based game?
Keep in mind Free Realms, The Agency and DC online were all in development prior to SOE being restructured into SCE. It is very likely that SCE doesn't have the slighest concern with the PC mmo market, especially with how poorly soe has been performing there.
Most likely SCE is only concerned with boosting the PS3 in any way possible and any efforts towards the PC market are secondary concerns, but all three of those mmos were already being developed for the PC market.
free realm is working on everything,yes even netbook biggest selling item in portable computer
very few mmo can play on netbook wich is a huge market
computer mmo is old news now the battle is for the mmo on netbooks
Originally posted by drbaltazar free realm is working on everything,yes even netbook biggest selling item in portable computer very few mmo can play on netbook wich is a huge market computer mmo is old news now the battle is for the mmo on netbooks
A netbook is still a computer and most netbook users are only concerned with email and web surfing.
Free realms, despite launching in a web browser is a client based game. Once you login to the game, it launches a 3D game engine on your computer. I have doubt it runs well on a netbook, but I still do not think that SCE is concerned about computer based mmos since Sony is in a huge battle for the console market which is much bigger than the peanuts SOE might make with a computer based mmo. They have billions invested into the play station and soes PC marketshare is peanuts in comparison.
After everything they've already done, you guys didn't honestly think that SOE would NOT screw you over did you?
Were you really holding onto that miniscule sliver of hope that one day SOE would realize the folly of their ways and make SWG2 for you?? LOL
As always, you SWG vets are a constant source of entertainment...
It is quite clear to me that SOE has no idea what they are doing when it comes to the MMO genre at this point. I expected them to steer clear of the SWG framework after the monumental failure they encountered, but I didn't expect them to try to market a Star Wars game towards 10 year olds... Is there really an MMO player base that young? And if so, are any of those kids actually interested in Star Wars? I guess we'll see soon.
After everything they've already done, you guys didn't honestly think that SOE would NOT screw you over did you? Were you really holding onto that miniscule sliver of hope that one day SOE would realize the folly of their ways and make SWG2 for you?? LOL As always, you SWG vets are a constant source of entertainment... It is quite clear to me that SOE has no idea what they are doing when it comes to the MMO genre at this point. I expected them to steer clear of the SWG framework after the monumental failure they encountered, but I didn't expect them to try to market a Star Wars game towards 10 year olds... Is there really an MMO player base that young? And if so, are any of those kids actually interested in Star Wars? I guess we'll see soon.
Did anyone on this board actually SAY they wanted SOE to make SWG2? Or anything even close to that?
I think most of the vets you sem to be making fun of here actually share the bulk of your opinion that you shared in your last paragraph.
(I could be wrong though - mods please don't warn/ban me for saying so)
SOE better get something out on the PS3. Look like a bunch of clowns if the ps3 takes off, and they're still fumbling over themselves and miss it. Get it while it's hot, or let someone else who can. All they got is free realms though lol. Is that even a game or just another demo showcase type thing they do? Great marketing for it I admit. Even got a major news release when they added guilds. Thats news.
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SOE better get something out on the PS3. Look like a bunch of clowns if the ps3 takes off, and they're still fumbling over themselves and miss it. Get it while it's hot, or let someone else who can. All they got is free realms though lol. Is that even a game or just another demo showcase type thing they do? Great marketing for it I admit. Even got a major news release when they added guilds. Thats news.
When Free Realms gos PS3, it will probably reach its greatest potential. I think the target audiance is more acustom to a console format. The original intent of FR was to compete for the RuneScape and PuzzlePirate kids. Now I think you might be right to it being a demo for showcasing the potential to a suc... I mean IP holder.
SOE better get something out on the PS3. Look like a bunch of clowns if the ps3 takes off, and they're still fumbling over themselves and miss it. Get it while it's hot, or let someone else who can. All they got is free realms though lol. Is that even a game or just another demo showcase type thing they do? Great marketing for it I admit. Even got a major news release when they added guilds. Thats news.
When Free Realms gos PS3, it will probably reach its greatest potential. I think the target audiance is more acustom to a console format. The original intent of FR was to compete for the RuneScape and PuzzlePirate kids. Now I think you might be right to it being a demo for showcasing the potential to a suc... I mean IP holder.
I still can't see it being a money maker. Unless they steal van's play along with the sw series idea.
See you in the dream.. The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
How much of a brighter world would it be today if SOE had done this with the crappy IP of The Clone Wars in the first place and had left the actual Star Wars to the big boys.
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That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Heh, it's quite the meaty bone SOE has been throwen
This will make two Star Wars games SOE has that are based on the period of Star Wars that is most actively being marketed in the media, on TV, in books and in the cinema. They have the biggest opportunities to ride on the wave of Star Wars popularity already built up by these campaigns. Bioware on the other hand is in a time period that (relatively) very few know much about. I'm NOT saying TOR is destined to be less popular, I'm sure it'll attract a healthy population of die-hards, but this new Clone Wars MMO and SWG certainly aren't out of the picture.
I can see the new Star Wars MMO from SOE as being targetted at kids from 7 yrs to 18+ yrs. It will most likely be a game that these kids will play for a few hours after school before dinner and homework. Yes adults will probably like it as well but the target audience will most likely be the kids.
Since SOE will also be developing this new game, I am really expecting them to, more or less, put SWG to the back of the bus and focus most if it's energy on the development and promotion of the new game. Why? Because that is how SOE treats their older gamnes. They "Use It and Abuse It" then throw it to the wayside when something new comes along.
My prediction will be that SW:TOR will have a HUGE subscriber base follow by the Clone Wars MMO(because quite alot of people will not buy SOE games) and finally SWG will limp along with fewer servers and fewer subs.
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Some sort of game announcement on Friday. I think it's 'Free Galaxies' , but I hope it's Shadows Of The Empire for console download.
Two things here: either SOE are jealous of Bioware and begged LA for another project, or LA just got that much dumber and gave SOE another go despite what they've done with SWG.
My bets is if SOE does do this game, it'll be heavily on RMT/TCG bullcrap, and yes SWG indeed looks looks like it's closer to getting the plug pulled. How SOE can support another SW MMO after sizing down the SWG devs/servers/content, when they have most of their resources focused on DCU right now.
jeez, what a cluster fuck.
Dumbest idea since the NGE and woopty doo. It comes from SOE and LEC.
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While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Heh, it's quite the meaty bone SOE has been throwen
This will make two Star Wars games SOE has that are based on the period of Star Wars that is most actively being marketed in the media, on TV, in books and in the cinema. They have the biggest opportunities to ride on the wave of Star Wars popularity already built up by these campaigns. Bioware on the other hand is in a time period that (relatively) very few know much about. I'm NOT saying TOR is destined to be less popular, I'm sure it'll attract a healthy population of die-hards, but this new Clone Wars MMO and SWG certainly aren't out of the picture.
You sound pretty sure that this is more than a rumour. YOu know something you're not spilling?
Sony marketing has improved is my opinion atm.
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While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Uh, FreeRealms? The game this new SW MMO is suppose to be based on? The game that's going to be a browser based game?
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Uh, FreeRealms?
Huh? www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/freerealms/index.html
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Uh, FreeRealms?
Huh? www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/freerealms/index.html
It doesn't have a PS3 client yet, as far as I knew so I imagine this could probably end up being something like with SWG and the PS2.
It could end up like that. It's sceduled for Q4 2009, so soon. Guess we will find out.
And incase you missed it, above I typed out "As a side note, Freerealms is browser based (It uses Java). Just in a different way. So it would be just as easy to move this rumored SW MMO to the console.". It's not the type of browser game you are thinking.
Edit: kotaku.com/5039479/free-realms-mmo-coming-to-playstation-3 I think they are serious actually
Oh %*&@ me this is retarded. Seriously?! I mean...%*&@ ! This is really %*&@ ing retarded!
While I can see why you'd come to the conclussion that this news would mean equal the death of SWG, however I very much doubt it. Firstly, EQ2 didn't result in EQ being closed down.
I imagine there will be some heavy tie in's between this new game and SWG with links between the two - SOE/LA would be silly NOT to do so. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done TCG style and they add a client within the SWG client (or upgrade the ingame browser so it can handle it). On a more far fetched scope, being that it's the Clone Wars era they could have things that affect the new game world have "left overs" in the SWG world. It'll also be interesting to see if they create a new TCG for this new MMO or intergrate the current TCG.
Either way, SOE would be set to become one of LA's most active Star Wars games developers, having 3 Star Wars games under its belt.
Well, quite frankly I think we've seen the end of the PC only focus of SoE. I canot see them doing any tie-ins with a PC only title when they've got a console system such as the PS3 that they're pretty desperate to get into as many homes as possible.
I would simply not put any faith into anything from SoE that isn't cross-platform these days. For example when was the last MMO developed by SoE that wasn't PC only? When was the last PC only game SoE developed?
SoE's future is in the console market. PC gaming is undoubtedly going to be left behind IMO. It's just a matter of time, and time is running out.
If every PC only based MMO that SoE currently supports were to announce it's closure in the next 2 years would anyone really be surprised?
Uh, FreeRealms?
Huh? www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/freerealms/index.html
It doesn't have a PS3 client yet, as far as I knew so I imagine this could probably end up being something like with SWG and the PS2.
I sincerly doubt it.
I'm no expert on consoles but I would have to think that back in '03 SWG would have been too complex to work with the PS2. Now take something as advanced as the PS3 and combine it with something as simply as Free Releams and I think it would be fairly easy (comparitively at least) to work on a console.
Besides, it seems that this was the intention of combining SoE with SCE. Take a look at this clip from an article on Kotaku..
"Massive Multiplayer Online Gaming arrives on PLAYSTATION®3 with DC Universe Online™, The Agency™ and FreeRealms™
Leipzig Games Convention, August 2008: Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) announced today that SCEE has joined forces with Sony Online Entertainment LLC (SOE) – developer of groundbreaking online Massive Multiplayer Online (MMOs) games including the wildly popular EverQuest® — in an arrangement that will bring a whole new dimension to PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3™) gaming.
Under the new agreement, SCEE will publish and distribute three MMOs developed by SOE for PS3 throughout the PAL territories. In addition, SCEE will also publish DC Universe and The Agency on behalf of SOE in the PAL territories. The new arrangement allows SCEE to benefit from SOE’s experience in a different area of video gaming publishing, one which opens up a whole host of possibilities for PS3.
The games included in the agreement are The Agency (PS3), a fast-paced, action shooter set in an present day online persistent world of bullets, bomb blasts, and betrayal; DC Universe Online (PS3 and PC), an action-focused super-hero game in a fully realized DC Universe Online; and Free Realms (PS3), a vibrant new world for younger players with an exciting mix of reality and fantasy.
“This is an opportunity for SCEE and SOE to bring the best online experiences from PC gaming to the PLAYSTATION 3 universe, the result of which will certainly benefit PlayStation fans,” said David Reeves, President, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe."
http://kotaku.com/5039479/free-realms-mmo-coming-to-playstation-3
Uh, FreeRealms? The game this new SW MMO is suppose to be based on? The game that's going to be a browser based game?
Keep in mind Free Realms, The Agency and DC online were all in development prior to SOE being restructured into SCE. It is very likely that SCE doesn't have the slighest concern with the PC mmo market, especially with how poorly soe has been performing there.
Most likely SCE is only concerned with boosting the PS3 in any way possible and any efforts towards the PC market are secondary concerns, but all three of those mmos were already being developed for the PC market.
Uh, FreeRealms? The game this new SW MMO is suppose to be based on? The game that's going to be a browser based game?
Keep in mind Free Realms, The Agency and DC online were all in development prior to SOE being restructured into SCE. It is very likely that SCE doesn't have the slighest concern with the PC mmo market, especially with how poorly soe has been performing there.
Most likely SCE is only concerned with boosting the PS3 in any way possible and any efforts towards the PC market are secondary concerns, but all three of those mmos were already being developed for the PC market.
free realm is working on everything,yes even netbook biggest selling item in portable computer
very few mmo can play on netbook wich is a huge market
computer mmo is old news now the battle is for the mmo on netbooks
A netbook is still a computer and most netbook users are only concerned with email and web surfing.
Free realms, despite launching in a web browser is a client based game. Once you login to the game, it launches a 3D game engine on your computer. I have doubt it runs well on a netbook, but I still do not think that SCE is concerned about computer based mmos since Sony is in a huge battle for the console market which is much bigger than the peanuts SOE might make with a computer based mmo. They have billions invested into the play station and soes PC marketshare is peanuts in comparison.
After everything they've already done, you guys didn't honestly think that SOE would NOT screw you over did you?
Were you really holding onto that miniscule sliver of hope that one day SOE would realize the folly of their ways and make SWG2 for you?? LOL
As always, you SWG vets are a constant source of entertainment...
It is quite clear to me that SOE has no idea what they are doing when it comes to the MMO genre at this point. I expected them to steer clear of the SWG framework after the monumental failure they encountered, but I didn't expect them to try to market a Star Wars game towards 10 year olds... Is there really an MMO player base that young? And if so, are any of those kids actually interested in Star Wars? I guess we'll see soon.
Did anyone on this board actually SAY they wanted SOE to make SWG2? Or anything even close to that?
I think most of the vets you sem to be making fun of here actually share the bulk of your opinion that you shared in your last paragraph.
(I could be wrong though - mods please don't warn/ban me for saying so)
SOE better get something out on the PS3. Look like a bunch of clowns if the ps3 takes off, and they're still fumbling over themselves and miss it. Get it while it's hot, or let someone else who can. All they got is free realms though lol. Is that even a game or just another demo showcase type thing they do? Great marketing for it I admit. Even got a major news release when they added guilds. Thats news.
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
When Free Realms gos PS3, it will probably reach its greatest potential. I think the target audiance is more acustom to a console format. The original intent of FR was to compete for the RuneScape and PuzzlePirate kids. Now I think you might be right to it being a demo for showcasing the potential to a suc... I mean IP holder.
When Free Realms gos PS3, it will probably reach its greatest potential. I think the target audiance is more acustom to a console format. The original intent of FR was to compete for the RuneScape and PuzzlePirate kids. Now I think you might be right to it being a demo for showcasing the potential to a suc... I mean IP holder.
I still can't see it being a money maker. Unless they steal van's play along with the sw series idea.
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
How much of a brighter world would it be today if SOE had done this with the crappy IP of The Clone Wars in the first place and had left the actual Star Wars to the big boys.
"You guys act like they are defiling the bible or something.
It's just a video game based on just a story..."
Defile the bible all you want. Defiling Star Wars (unless it's Clone Wars) is sacrilegious.