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will pvp beat wow?
drbaltazar
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i dont like this game!
but i got one interrogation
can the pvp system be good enough
to do like gw.
lets face it ,we get graphic nice but as loto f game before this ,it isnt enough
hell wow is still one of the top mmo and graphic are easy mode
so the only missing number here is the pvp
can pvp do the impossible.beats me ?
i dont think so ,for one reason
guild wars 2 !yes its still far away but if a game most wanted thing is pvp
it better be insanelly addictive ,is it?
from what we can find (very little im afraid)
aion look like the past to the korean
but is it REALLY?
IM NOT SO SURE !
player like to fight against each others
and a LOT of player that played for months could probably be resting ?
the thing i dont know is is the server system a global serv system or just regular usa server ,uk server ,korean server etc
one thing is sure when gw made world event a possibility in gw it openned something that player love
the chance to fight against korean ,japanese,chinese ,russian etc
will it be the same with aion .
i will assume ncsoft will do it like gw
if it is like gw then this game may become more popular the wow
if its world wide!
if its only separate area of the world server
then im sorry to say but gw2 will chew it within a week of gw2 release
but if they use same way as gw pvp used
mm ncsoft might mix the mmo industry in ways not forseen
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Aion is designed to be PvP centric game, one of it's biggest original focus is PvP in the Abyss as the game's core design. From what I have experienced so far, it is a good system. It is not really similar to GW, but in terms of PvP i can be confident it will be more fun than WoW for me.
Problem is if someone is use to skill trees and builds to one shot or dominate other players, Aion's design is different from that. It is designed to balance out all classes and let the battle drag on longer, so whoever play their cards right are the ones who will be more successful in PvP. It is not always the person with the best gears who wins, but gears sure do help a little bit. In the end the winner is the one that make better judgements when in PvP situations. Of course that is all after level 25-30 since that is where class balance kick in correctly.
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My thoughts are not to judge Aion too quickly. Aion is a young game that hasn't even come out here in the West yet. The proper way to compare it would be one of three ways.
1. Compare WOW and Aion where they were after one year of retail.
2. Wait until Aion has been out 5+ years and see how much (if any) it grew.
3. Polish and smoothness at launch.
To compare a game that was out 5 years to a new game isn't fair.
I think Aion is right on track. The only thing I want to see more of is zones. Otherwise it looks like it should do well and be very successful. Trust me, I am not being biased. I loved WOW and played it for years. I have nothing bad to say about it besides it being way too addictive to me, lol. I'm just saying I think Aion will be a great game as well.
It depends on what you like in PvP. If you're someone who like quick mini game and battlegrounds then you wont like Aion's PvP
If you like large scale fights over castles and small mobile group PvP throughout a zone, then AION is your game
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Don't think aions PvP will even have a chane of being as sucessful as WoWs The combat is to slow, There is not DR system like in WoW, I mean i kited a gladiator for 20min+ on my ranger in the chiniese version of the game before i got him down. Theres really nothing that really requires skill a clicker can be just as sucessful as a person with keybindings since everything takes so god damn much time to do and i really hated the instant cast things in aion i mean If a spell says its instant cast time i should be able to run and do it not press the ability my character stands still shoots the skill then keep on running. Aion is a good game and i enjoy playing it but if i want some PvP action ill just log on my priest and play some arenas, Sure wow is corrupted and the arenas and BGs are a zerg fest basiclly, But WoWs pvp is alot more competative then aions imo, I will still play both the games tho since i'm kinda tierd of WoW atm.
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from your point of view,is this game using global way of pvp like in gw you could end up fighting with korean ,russian etc
is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?
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from your point of view,is this game using global way of pvp like in gw you could end up fighting with korean ,russian etc
is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?
if you are only speaking of cross culture PvP. No, only server will have the pleasure of cross culture fighitng would be EU Aion but it will be mostly EU vs EU still. However, it will still be more interesting than WoW, but not like GW's setup in terms of PvP system design.
FPS will always be the best PvP in my opinion. Aion will suffer the exact same drawbacks as WoW and any other MMORPG, as far as PvP is concerned.
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is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?
This isnt Guild Wars.
from your point of view,is this game using global way of pvp like in gw you could end up fighting with korean ,russian etc
is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?
if you are only speaking of cross culture PvP. No, only server will have the pleasure of cross culture fighitng would be EU Aion but it will be mostly EU vs EU still. However, it will still be more interesting than WoW, but not like GW's setup in terms of PvP system design.
m ok !ty very much , ill wait but i doubt this game will be as good as gw 2
unless arenanet boot global pvp
i believe global pvp is the way of the future
but then thats my view
Your reply should of started with "In My Opinion".
I wouldn't flame you. There's nothing wrong with liking WOW's system. I loved it, in fact. I really liked the old ranking days. I logged more time in AV than I could even begin to count, lol
I think NCSoft will revamp Aions battle lengths, mark my words, to make it a bit more "westernized." Still, as an older guy who likes to click fight I can appreciate a fight not being over too fast! lol
Also, as I mentioned in my earlier post, Aion is new. Just like WOW added and grew it's PvP content, who's to say Aion won't keep bringing fresh things to the game(or at least adding tried and true PvP content)?
I wouldn't flame you. There's nothing wrong with liking WOW's system. I loved it, in fact. I really liked the old ranking days. I logged more time in AV than I could even begin to count, lol
I think NCSoft will revamp Aions battle lengths, mark my words, to make it a bit more "westernized." Still, as an older guy who likes to click fight I can appreciate a fight not being over too fast! lol
Also, as I mentioned in my earlier post, Aion is new. Just like WOW added and grew it's PvP content, who's to say Aion won't keep bringing fresh things to the game(or at least adding tried and true PvP content)?
Totally agree, The pre-BC ranking system was awsome:> , Aion would be my new main game if they made 2 changes,
1. Adding a rated arena system like in WoW, Thats the only good thing still in WoW, rest is just crap, Its also the only thing game wise i really enjoy. Sure some new games are fun for a few hours but rated 2v2,3v3,5v5 tops them all, never gets boring:P
2. And changed the combat system, by that i mean, Making it abit faster and removing the instant cast thing i mentioned eariler. or just increase the run speed a bit, the walking takes forever. both out and in combat.
And as you said, Aion will surley progress in a good way, Its a big change plaing the 1.0 version of the game and the new 1.5, I really hope and think aion will be a great success here in europe, Also please excuse my english;p
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Well, Aion's PvP should have no problem being better than GW2's PvP for the single fact that GW2 is *VAPORWARE* at this point. I'd rather play and enjoy pvp in a game that exists now than pine away for a game that is at least a year away from release and whose best features fall squarely under the classification of "potential".
Try EVE.
They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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To one of the posters, it is fair to compare anything released today to WoW. They can take the advancement made in other games and apply it to theirs. Sure it takes time to work kinks out, but being able to learn from its predecessors puts it at a great advantage.
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There was so much hype around AoC (oooh sieges!)and WARs PVP (oooh RvR)when it was released it wasn't funny. The same is occurring now. I'd really wait for it to die down and for the "real" game to shine through.
In terms of small-scale balance, I doubt it will beat WoW in nearby future(1 year at least). Aion is based on very large scale battle, a think that I dislike, but it's a matter of opinion.
IMO these are *TERRIBLE* ideas that are better left to rot in WoW.
1. This would drive away as many people if not more than it attracts. Aion is about open, fluid PvP in contested zones; Arenas are artificial constructs for anti-sandbox and cookie-cutter thinkers.
2. This would drive away as many people as it attracts. Aion is an MMO, not an FPS wannabe. (I wouldn't mind running faster, but then again there are ways to speed that up without dumbing down the game)
They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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I wouldn't flame you. There's nothing wrong with liking WOW's system. I loved it, in fact. I really liked the old ranking days. I logged more time in AV than I could even begin to count, lol
I think NCSoft will revamp Aions battle lengths, mark my words, to make it a bit more "westernized." Still, as an older guy who likes to click fight I can appreciate a fight not being over too fast! lol
Also, as I mentioned in my earlier post, Aion is new. Just like WOW added and grew it's PvP content, who's to say Aion won't keep bringing fresh things to the game(or at least adding tried and true PvP content)?
Totally agree, The pre-BC ranking system was awsome:> , Aion would be my new main game if they made 2 changes,
1. Adding a rated arena system like in WoW, Thats the only good thing still in WoW, rest is just crap, Its also the only thing game wise i really enjoy. Sure some new games are fun for a few hours but rated 2v2,3v3,5v5 tops them all, never gets boring:P
2. And changed the combat system, by that i mean, Making it abit faster and removing the instant cast thing i mentioned eariler. or just increase the run speed a bit, the walking takes forever. both out and in combat.
And as you said, Aion will surley progress in a good way, Its a big change plaing the 1.0 version of the game and the new 1.5, I really hope and think aion will be a great success here in europe, Also please excuse my english;p
Your English is fine unlike the posters.
2 things I don't quite understand, you want the PRE-BC ranking system AND you want the Rated Arena Game system. Wouldn't those two ideas conflict?
BTW when you say PRE-BC you are talking about the Race For High Warlord rank right?
Did you ever make a serious attempt at doing that?
I have no interest in seeing either of your ideas come to fruition in AION.
Arena or as I like to call it PvP ala Basketball Court is bullshit.
I want war pvp, I dont want boxing.
The funny thing is, you already have WoW Arenas.
Don't like AION PvP?
The answer is right in front of you.
Have to ask, is it wrong to flame an initial post that was this bad?
Small-scale balance? Not sure what you mean here. Both sides have mirror classes. What is not balanced? Are you referring to when two, small groups meet, and those groups have different classes? If that's the case, then Aion (or any other game for that matter) will *never* achieve that mythical standard of "balance" in your eyes.
Aion is not necessarily always a large scale battle. What makes you think that's all there is?
They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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No it's not garbage, it's probably the most balanced class-based MMORPG these days, a balance that doesn't occur after 20v20 but rather from 2v2(hell, even 1v1) to 19v19. You can pretty much do arena for weapons then organise world events with your friends, duel and do battlegrounds.
Certainly Aion differs from WoW in that combat takes place in the Abysess and not anywhere else as you find with WoW. Does that make it worse than WoW for PvP? Don't know yet, I have liked WoW's ability to PvP anywhere and not just in any one zone. With that said, WoW's pvp has become more zone orientated with battlegrounds. Aion's PvP reminds me more of DAoC's PvP.
IMO these are *TERRIBLE* ideas that are better left to rot in WoW.
1. This would drive away as many people if not more than it attracts. Aion is about open, fluid PvP in contested zones; Arenas are artificial constructs for anti-sandbox and cookie-cutter thinkers.
2. This would drive away as many people as it attracts. Aion is an MMO, not an FPS wannabe. (I wouldn't mind running faster, but then again there are ways to speed that up without dumbing down the game)
I totally agree. This isn't Counter-Strike -- PvP ranking of any type has zero place in an MMORPG. Fire up Guild Wars if you need smaller-scale battles.
Anyone who considers WoW the "PvP to beat" really needs to get out more. :>
Are you referring to when two, small groups meet, and those groups have different classes? If that's the case, then Aion (or any other game for that matter) will *never* achieve that mythical standard of "balance" in your eyes.
Pretty much that, or even the same classes. The point of it would be to reduce the outcome to who's the most skilled team, not the one with the most overpowered classes. Of course no MMO will ever reach that, because it's pretty logical but WoW's the closest to it.