Good luck with that. I don't think you'll find an MMO whose followers haven't started a "WoW killer" thread, no matter how niche or small that MMO is. It happened and it will keep on happening. Instead of getting annoyed by it, you should instead be satisfied that for all intents and purposes every game coming out is trying (unsuccessfully) to measure up.
By the way. Star Trek is an RMT item mall game, similar to Champions Online. And SW:TOR for the little we know so far, is a glorified Mass Effect in Star Wars universe. Lets hope I'm proven wrong of course.
The highlighted text is the only reason someone like me would even lower myself and speak on this themepark forum.
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After a comment such as this, I automatically go and check the poster's age. I know, I can't gauge maturity by age, I just hope these thoughtless comments don't originate from a person in my own age bracket.
Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations.
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
@Metalhead. So (some) people like Aion. Let them be. The only problem I have is the very hyped up screwed number of players, while NCsoft hardly says a word. FOR MONTHS these guys keep yelling the same slogans.... "It kiled Wow in the east". "It has 3.5 M players in the east" .... without ANY official NCSoft back up of any kind. "Our servers are full", .... not too difficult if you know they could handle only 180K concurrently on line at launch. THAT's what's pissing me off. And btw: if WOW would come down from the throne, due to SW or an excellent ST I would applaud. But it will HAVE to be an ORIGINAL game that will take that deserved position. That doesn't need to be hyped through false statements BEFORE launch.
The 3.5 million number comes from an IGN website. IGN mentions the number in an article that's about the Australian distributer, Obviously the australian distributor knows these numbers because it's important information on making a deal to distribute the game.
NCsoft never confirmed it but they never denied it. To say it's false or a lie is a huge assumption on your part, especially when there are enough servers to justify a 3.5 million playerbase.
180k concurrent users at launch, yes, with people living in very different timezones.
To suggest it's a marketing ploy is downright hilarious. Since when is having known that you have to wait 2 hours before you even get to play the game a good advertisement? If they want to let people wait in que so badly, why did they make the change on shops?
Jackie08: Crysis doesn't use the same engine Aion does. Aion is running on the first Cryengine, which was also used for Far Cry. Crysis runs on the Cry Engine 2.0
The official statement regarding the state of the game and the immediate steps to rectify the current most pressing issues can be found in the link below. It talks about about their own population projections as well..
Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations.
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.
Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations.
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.
Oh yeah it's not the 2nd version....
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meh can't wait to see the 3rd engine when Crysis 2 comes out...=D
Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations.
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.
Oh yeah it's not the 2nd version....
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meh can't wait to see the 3rd engine when Crysis 2 comes out...=D
Isn't that just a dumbed down Cry Engine 2.0 made to run on mid end systems and consoles?
@Zorndorf: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned doubling the servers, not adding a couple more for each region and language. Even the added servers are still not enough though, at least for now. The thing is, no matter what the retention rate is, the game will lose people because of the queues. If I can only play a couple hours per day, I can't stay in the queue for 1.5hrs. As much as I like the game, I can't recommend to my friends joining it considering the current state of servers.
Sorry to prove you wrong X, http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3093949#3093949 In this post I predicted the following/ I quote: posted on Sep 17th .......!!! That was even before launch !!!!! .... They will ADD servers in the first week of launch. Even will give you the number: around 6 US / 8 EU. .... because you simply can't host 400K with 24 servers. It IS a marketing move. .... Not bad from ol' Zorn ....:))) In fact it is now at 4US/6 EU and like you said back then ... "what is that for a kind of marketing move." They made exactly the same policy with the Korean launches. "We added 50% more servers"... NOT difficult if a chimpansee could see their servers were just to few for the 400K people expected at launch. I could give details how I do these counts and predictions, but I would be banned for trolling )) ....greetings
Oh well that's pretty easy, you become a fanboy of WoW and simply predict every other game that isn't wow is crap and is going to fail. Obviously you're going to be right about some, wrong about others. As for Aion, it's starting to look like you're wrong. Ofcourse when NCsoft does announce the subscribers, I don't expect to see your face around here.
As much as I hate to defend Zorn He's not a hater of every game besides WoW. I've actually read decent things from him about Lotro and He doesnt seem to give Eve a hard time either besides saying its not his type of game.
Aion is just a pure F2p/Lineage Clone and all of you guys deserve Zorn in your thread after talking so much shit during Aions NA/Euro Beta. Seriously If you just stfu about the game and not spam the forum you wouldnt be getting the shit you are now. Because its clear Aion is anything but the perfect game.
You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The lineage series was a point & click, Open pvp clan politics, grind driven game where it could take up to a year of hardcore playing to reach the cap. Aion is a WASD, Faction vs Faction, quest driven where 2 weeks into release people are already getting close to the level. Saying Aion is the same is ignorant.
Bullshit!!!! Aion runs on the god damn lineage engine. Just look at those fucking retarded character running animations with those female characters with their asses pushed out. Give me a fucking break already. Stop being such a fanboy, you know this game runs on the lineage engine just like everyone else does.
As for the spamming of the forums im not talking about the fucking Aion forums, check back posts we got "AION will pAwnzzz all" posts in every forum from WAR to fucking off topic, you deserve this shut dude.
Have fun in your pathetic excuse for a game. Shit the fact that you defend all Korean games this hardcore makes every one of your opinions invalid. Atleast Zorn defends a good game, unlike yourself.
It actually runs on the cryengine you idiot. maybe if you played the game you would know this.
Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations.
Will you stop making a fool out of yourself? The combat animations look completely different, Lineage 2's combat animations are fairly realistic. Aion's combat animations are clearly over the top. Even a blind monkey can notice the difference.
Do I really need to post the ass in the air running animations of the females for you to admit im right? seriously you fanbots are pathetic lol.
Please do, I seriously haven't seen any ass in air running animation in Aion. Aion is not as blatantly sexual as L2, the armours aren't skimpy and the females skirts don't blow upwards each time they cast a spell. But there are a some similarities between Aion and L2, it's the same company and genre, of course there are.
Your phrase "pathetic excuse for a engine" leads me to think that you don't understand what a game engine is (even though it's a slightly fuzzy term). A game engine is usually the core functionality that does things like graphics rendering, sounds, user interface, interaction and physics. Which of these are done poorly? For me the engine performs very well - it runs smoother than some of my old games.
You can run the Xfire test with the WOW-EVE_Lotro always and come up within the 5M-300K-170K anytime (with a 10% accuracy). The moment you hit Aion: WOW it has 1.000.000 western players.... yep on ... 16/14 servers. ))) Like I said: Xfire CAN be used, but only in reference to other variables (like sales samples and servers available). Aion is not even in the top 90 of video games on amazon.com. Both War and Aoc were there for weeks/months. Happy chewing....
Zondorf can we see your X-fire test forumula? I think there are holes in it, namely what percentage of players playing each of those 3 games you mention actually use X-fire. Honestly I don't see how can claim any sort of accuracy without knowing that variable.
And why do I get the feeling this thread is full of you and your alts praising yourself?
@Metalhead. So (some) people like Aion. Let them be. The only problem I have is the very hyped up screwed number of players, while NCsoft hardly says a word. FOR MONTHS these guys keep yelling the same slogans.... "It kiled Wow in the east". "It has 3.5 M players in the east" .... without ANY official NCSoft back up of any kind. "Our servers are full", .... not too difficult if you know they could handle only 180K concurrently on line at launch. THAT's what's pissing me off. And btw: if WOW would come down from the throne, due to SW or an excellent ST I would applaud. But it will HAVE to be an ORIGINAL game that will take that deserved position. That doesn't need to be hyped through false statements BEFORE launch.
The highlighted text is the only reason someone like me would even lower myself and speak on this themepark forum.
I have my own Issues with WoW but the way the Aion posters on this site have acted they deserve it. Anyway im going to go back and discuss games I actually enjoy that are clearly better. Later Zorn.
So the only reason you troll on a forum section is because some people said the game had 3.5 million subscribers in the east, a claim by IGN in an article about the distributor?
Isn't that just a dumbed down Cry Engine 2.0 made to run on mid end systems and consoles?
That is what the PC FPS elitist are crying about, but from what I've read and seen it's the same graphics built for better performance.
And with better performance you can do a lot more in game.
After playing Crysis:Warhead I wouldn't mind that considering how badly my PC spasmed out in this one part where I had to man a turret gun on a train with all those pollies rushing by, I mean I swear I heard my PC make a noise that sounded like a scream...0o
Isn't that just a dumbed down Cry Engine 2.0 made to run on mid end systems and consoles?
That is what the PC FPS elitist are crying about, but from what I've read and seen it's the same graphics built for better performance.
And with better performance you can do a lot more in game.
After playing Crysis:Warhead I wouldn't mind that considering how badly my PC spasmed out in this one part where I had to man a turret gun on a train with all those pollies rushing by, I mean I swear I heard my PC make a noise that sounded like a scream...0o
I have seen the comparissons, there does seem to be a pretty big difference in favor of Cry Engine 2.
Isn't that just a dumbed down Cry Engine 2.0 made to run on mid end systems and consoles?
That is what the PC FPS elitist are crying about, but from what I've read and seen it's the same graphics built for better performance.
And with better performance you can do a lot more in game.
After playing Crysis:Warhead I wouldn't mind that considering how badly my PC spasmed out in this one part where I had to man a turret gun on a train with all those pollies rushing by, I mean I swear I heard my PC make a noise that sounded like a scream...0o
I have seen the comparissons, there does seem to be a pretty big difference in favor of Cry Engine 2.
I really didn't though, and I've played Crysis on enthusiast setting, the only portion that look a bit worse was the 360 one....PC demo looked the same.
You can run the Xfire test with the WOW-EVE_Lotro always and come up within the 5M-300K-170K anytime (with a 10% accuracy). The moment you hit Aion: WOW it has 1.000.000 western players.... yep on ... 16/14 servers. ))) Like I said: Xfire CAN be used, but only in reference to other variables (like sales samples and servers available). Aion is not even in the top 90 of video games on amazon.com. Both War and Aoc were there for weeks/months. Happy chewing....
Zondorf can we see your X-fire test forumula? I think there are holes in it, namely what percentage of players playing each of those 3 games you mention actually use X-fire. Honestly I don't see how can claim any sort of accuracy without knowing that variable.
And why do I get the feeling this thread is full of you and your alts praising yourself?
Alts ? I don't see alts. Ask MB on the board.
99% sure "Vickies" is one your alts )))
Aion v3 "RELOADED" - A glimpse into the future of the MMO genre
Jesus........so much retarded rage from everyone. People either complaining about Aion or defending it. People need to realize that it's JUST OPINIONS.
Really no point in anyone's posts other than to feed their egos.
Quoting Tryklon: "the game client is still bugged and experiencing problems, wich causes major crashes in every big city and massive ppl battles, wich makes them unplayabale. (crysystem.dll crash and some other dll crashes, Sendlog warnings)"
Tryklon, try to update to Service pack 2 and these issues go away entirely. (Did for me anyways...)
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Good luck with that. I don't think you'll find an MMO whose followers haven't started a "WoW killer" thread, no matter how niche or small that MMO is. It happened and it will keep on happening. Instead of getting annoyed by it, you should instead be satisfied that for all intents and purposes every game coming out is trying (unsuccessfully) to measure up.
By the way. Star Trek is an RMT item mall game, similar to Champions Online. And SW:TOR for the little we know so far, is a glorified Mass Effect in Star Wars universe. Lets hope I'm proven wrong of course.
The highlighted text is the only reason someone like me would even lower myself and speak on this themepark forum.
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After a comment such as this, I automatically go and check the poster's age. I know, I can't gauge maturity by age, I just hope these thoughtless comments don't originate from a person in my own age bracket.
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
The 3.5 million number comes from an IGN website. IGN mentions the number in an article that's about the Australian distributer, Obviously the australian distributor knows these numbers because it's important information on making a deal to distribute the game.
NCsoft never confirmed it but they never denied it. To say it's false or a lie is a huge assumption on your part, especially when there are enough servers to justify a 3.5 million playerbase.
180k concurrent users at launch, yes, with people living in very different timezones.
To suggest it's a marketing ploy is downright hilarious. Since when is having known that you have to wait 2 hours before you even get to play the game a good advertisement? If they want to let people wait in que so badly, why did they make the change on shops?
Jackie08: Crysis doesn't use the same engine Aion does. Aion is running on the first Cryengine, which was also used for Far Cry. Crysis runs on the Cry Engine 2.0
The official statement regarding the state of the game and the immediate steps to rectify the current most pressing issues can be found in the link below. It talks about about their own population projections as well..
uk.aiononline.com/board/notices/view
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.
I can agree to that, the life span of the game, as far as I'm concerned, is yet to be decided.
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.
Oh yeah it's not the 2nd version....
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meh can't wait to see the 3rd engine when Crysis 2 comes out...=D
Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/
Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.
I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>
Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.
Oh yeah it's not the 2nd version....
...
meh can't wait to see the 3rd engine when Crysis 2 comes out...=D
Isn't that just a dumbed down Cry Engine 2.0 made to run on mid end systems and consoles?
Please do, I seriously haven't seen any ass in air running animation in Aion. Aion is not as blatantly sexual as L2, the armours aren't skimpy and the females skirts don't blow upwards each time they cast a spell. But there are a some similarities between Aion and L2, it's the same company and genre, of course there are.
Your phrase "pathetic excuse for a engine" leads me to think that you don't understand what a game engine is (even though it's a slightly fuzzy term). A game engine is usually the core functionality that does things like graphics rendering, sounds, user interface, interaction and physics. Which of these are done poorly? For me the engine performs very well - it runs smoother than some of my old games.
Zondorf can we see your X-fire test forumula? I think there are holes in it, namely what percentage of players playing each of those 3 games you mention actually use X-fire. Honestly I don't see how can claim any sort of accuracy without knowing that variable.
And why do I get the feeling this thread is full of you and your alts praising yourself?
The highlighted text is the only reason someone like me would even lower myself and speak on this themepark forum.
I have my own Issues with WoW but the way the Aion posters on this site have acted they deserve it. Anyway im going to go back and discuss games I actually enjoy that are clearly better. Later Zorn.
So the only reason you troll on a forum section is because some people said the game had 3.5 million subscribers in the east, a claim by IGN in an article about the distributor?
wow. Just wow. You need some fresh air buddy.
That is what the PC FPS elitist are crying about, but from what I've read and seen it's the same graphics built for better performance.
And with better performance you can do a lot more in game.
After playing Crysis:Warhead I wouldn't mind that considering how badly my PC spasmed out in this one part where I had to man a turret gun on a train with all those pollies rushing by, I mean I swear I heard my PC make a noise that sounded like a scream...0o
That is what the PC FPS elitist are crying about, but from what I've read and seen it's the same graphics built for better performance.
And with better performance you can do a lot more in game.
After playing Crysis:Warhead I wouldn't mind that considering how badly my PC spasmed out in this one part where I had to man a turret gun on a train with all those pollies rushing by, I mean I swear I heard my PC make a noise that sounded like a scream...0o
I have seen the comparissons, there does seem to be a pretty big difference in favor of Cry Engine 2.
To be fair i've yet to see a server crash, I can say the same for no other mmo.
A comparison video between the two cry engines (2 & 3, not Aion's)
www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,687527/Cryengine-2-vs-Cryengine-3-or-PC-vs-consoles-Video-comparison/News/
That is what the PC FPS elitist are crying about, but from what I've read and seen it's the same graphics built for better performance.
And with better performance you can do a lot more in game.
After playing Crysis:Warhead I wouldn't mind that considering how badly my PC spasmed out in this one part where I had to man a turret gun on a train with all those pollies rushing by, I mean I swear I heard my PC make a noise that sounded like a scream...0o
I have seen the comparissons, there does seem to be a pretty big difference in favor of Cry Engine 2.
I really didn't though, and I've played Crysis on enthusiast setting, the only portion that look a bit worse was the 360 one....PC demo looked the same.
Zondorf can we see your X-fire test forumula? I think there are holes in it, namely what percentage of players playing each of those 3 games you mention actually use X-fire. Honestly I don't see how can claim any sort of accuracy without knowing that variable.
And why do I get the feeling this thread is full of you and your alts praising yourself?
Alts ? I don't see alts. Ask MB on the board.
99% sure "Vickies" is one your alts
)))
Aion v3 "RELOADED" - A glimpse into the future of the MMO genre
More page long multiquotes, less content please. Some might actually start to take this serious.
Jesus........so much retarded rage from everyone. People either complaining about Aion or defending it. People need to realize that it's JUST OPINIONS.
Really no point in anyone's posts other than to feed their egos.
Everyone has opinions, but does that make them the universal truth??? NO!
Quoting Tryklon: "the game client is still bugged and experiencing problems, wich causes major crashes in every big city and massive ppl battles, wich makes them unplayabale. (crysystem.dll crash and some other dll crashes, Sendlog warnings)"
Tryklon, try to update to Service pack 2 and these issues go away entirely. (Did for me anyways...)