The thing about Nazis is that they killed the Jews. Perhaps if they killed Ukranians, Native Americans, Africans, or Bosnians they might not be so reviled.
If you miss the references to any of those, then check out Josef Stalin, United States history in the 1800's, Darfur/Rwanda, or the Serbian campaign in 92-95.
Simple history. The nazis were hardly the first to practice genocide on a large scale and they certainly haven't been the last, and yet they are the most reviled and widely known. I suppose it just depends on what one has to offer the people who write the history books.
As far as the OP, there's two sides to every story and his side is heavily biased and doesn't make much sense.
The thing about Nazis is that they killed the Jews. Perhaps if they killed Ukranians, Native Americans, Africans, or Bosnians they might not be so reviled. If you miss the references to any of those, then check out Josef Stalin, United States history in the 1800's, Darfur/Rwanda, or the Serbian campaign in 92-95. Simple history. The nazis were hardly the first to practice genocide on a large scale and they certainly haven't been the last, and yet they are the most reviled and widely known. I suppose it just depends on what one has to offer the people who write the history books.
As far as the OP, there's two sides to every story and his side is heavily biased and doesn't make much sense.
This is pretty much it. The Romans were Nazis in all but politics yet for some reason their name and culture is not synonymous with genocide and slavery. The Nazis derived their infamy from 20th Century events along with on going historical and pop culture awareness in the western world. Just like how recent generations of Chinese are very well aware of the Japanese war crimes while failing the register that their ancestors has inflicted the same crimes upon the rest of Asian once upon a time. As such the term Nazi is emotionally loaded.
It's true. The mods are out of control in this mmo. They mute players and give them forum bans for talking about certain bugs. I think part of the reason is they are trying to put a coat of whitewash on this turd for when the free trials start.
I really wish I would have waited to play this game with he free trials. Instead like a chump I bought it and was muted for talking about the AP exploit. When I tried to take it to the forums hoping to get around the in-game gm's I found all of my threads deleted and then I got a forum ban.
For a game with a mature rating it is incredibly over moderated. The gm's are basically in the games #help channel 24/7 handing out mutes, threats, and just in general being very pissy. In fact they regularly shut down the entire #help channel and take it away from users rather than allow freedom of speech. Which I would think a game with a mature rating would be based on.
The game had potential, but it is buggy and laggy as hell. It is also plagued with several game breaking exploits. But that is normal for an mmo. Especially a new one. But the GM staff of fallen earth are pretty much power mad jerks and they make the game feel very oppressive. I have to keep the #help channel off to actually be able to play because that is how often the gm's are making some annoying egotistical comment or threat.
Also keep in mind too that you can't post anything negative about the game on their forums. They are afraid of the truth and that is why they are banning and muting people. What amazes me is that they think people will continue to pay them for this game under those circumstances. I certainly work. I cancelled my subscription yesterday when I watched them not only mute a guy for talking about a bug, but they also forced him to change his name. His in game name was Reverend. He is now Reverind.
Meanwhile people walk around the game with names like INDO KUSH (drug reference), Mad Mardigen (willow) or various other shit but because they are fan boys they are left alone and allowed to keep their names.
People interested in trying this game should know that the GM's are dicks and are running it into the ground like a bad IRC channel.
Hmm.. it's funny how only newly registered accounts come up with this story... for the 3rd time? At least it could be varied a little, for the sake of credibility
Can't help the Deja Vu....
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Hmm.. it's funny how only newly registered accounts come up with this story... for the 3rd time? At least it could be varied a little, for the sake of credibility Can't help the Deja Vu.... DB
Some deja vu here as well. I say we should sit down in FE and discuss it- just becuse we can.
It's true. The mods are out of control in this mmo. They mute players and give them forum bans for talking about certain bugs. I think part of the reason is they are trying to put a coat of whitewash on this turd for when the free trials start. I really wish I would have waited to play this game with he free trials. Instead like a chump I bought it and was muted for talking about the AP exploit. When I tried to take it to the forums hoping to get around the in-game gm's I found all of my threads deleted and then I got a forum ban. For a game with a mature rating it is incredibly over moderated. The gm's are basically in the games #help channel 24/7 handing out mutes, threats, and just in general being very pissy. In fact they regularly shut down the entire #help channel and take it away from users rather than allow freedom of speech. Which I would think a game with a mature rating would be based on. The game had potential, but it is buggy and laggy as hell. It is also plagued with several game breaking exploits. But that is normal for an mmo. Especially a new one. But the GM staff of fallen earth are pretty much power mad jerks and they make the game feel very oppressive. I have to keep the #help channel off to actually be able to play because that is how often the gm's are making some annoying egotistical comment or threat. Also keep in mind too that you can't post anything negative about the game on their forums. They are afraid of the truth and that is why they are banning and muting people. What amazes me is that they think people will continue to pay them for this game under those circumstances. I certainly work. I cancelled my subscription yesterday when I watched them not only mute a guy for talking about a bug, but they also forced him to change his name. His in game name was Reverend. He is now Reverind. Meanwhile people walk around the game with names like INDO KUSH (drug reference), Mad Mardigen (willow) or various other shit but because they are fan boys they are left alone and allowed to keep their names. People interested in trying this game should know that the GM's are dicks and are running it into the ground like a bad IRC channel.
Wow, just wow. Unfortunately you are completely wrong in everything you just posted here. There are plenty of things posted in the forums that are negative commentary regarding FE. And the GM's being prissy? Gimme a break man. How many games have you played where an active GM was online and available at all times? Yeah, go back to WoW and submit your ticket and then wait 2 or 3 days until they decide to get around to telling you that there's nothing they will do for you. The only people I have ever seen get banned, muted, or talked to by the GM's in FE are people who type in all caps, don't listen when a GM reminds them of the /help channel rules, are rude, or are just overall complete douchebags. And I got one of my characters names changed by a GM. It's a foreign word that nobody knew and I had since I started playing. Apparently someone reported the name and they changed it. I wasn't suprised because they do have a naming policy, and OMFG they will enforce it.
In my experience, the people that constantly talk about GMs, Mods or anybody else managing an online community being dicks are in fact the cause of it. It's simple, you act like a dick you get treated like a dick. Why people can't understand this is beyond me. If they allowed all dicks to be dicks then the community ceases to exist.
If there is the rare one that lets the power go to their heads they usually don't last long.
You can't just declare me wrong. I experienced what I experienced and that is that. I don't like it that the GM's are constantly there because they are not limiting their interaction to merely helpful or beneficial actions. They are harassing players and that is wrong.
Also as far as being wrong goes how is this. You said for me to go back to wow but I haven't played wow in 2 years. I never much cared for the game as I don't really like the fantasy setting.
What I really want you to understand is that what drew me to this game was it's mature rating. I thought finally.. for once I could play a game that wasn't being run by the nannies. Why does a game that has a mature rating have such strict naming policies? The thing is the mobs in the game use curse words. They use them a lot. I thought for once I could play a game where others wouldn't try to "shield me," from the horrors of normal regular speech.
But that's not the case. Also you seem to be completely ignoring the arrogant and snotty way in which the gm's administer these warnings. Also you are ignoring that I never was cussing. I was muted for talking about an exploit. How do you explain that?
This game let me down in every possible way and I wish I could get my money back. Of all the ways this game let me down the worst of all was the way I was treated and saw others treated by the games gm staff. It is completely uncalled for in a game with a mature rating to be so strictly and CONSTANTLY moderated.
I realize your a fanboy and this probably hurts your feelings but the game's atmosphere sucks and it is 100% the fault of the in game gm's.
You can't just declare me wrong. I experienced what I experienced and that is that. I don't like it that the GM's are constantly there because they are not limiting their interaction to merely helpful or beneficial actions. They are harassing players and that is wrong. Also as far as being wrong goes how is this. You said for me to go back to wow but I haven't played wow in 2 years. I never much cared for the game as I don't really like the fantasy setting. What I really want you to understand is that what drew me to this game was it's mature rating. I thought finally.. for once I could play a game that wasn't being run by the nannies. Why does a game that has a mature rating have such strict naming policies? The thing is the mobs in the game use curse words. They use them a lot. I thought for once I could play a game where others wouldn't try to "shield me," from the horrors of normal regular speech. But that's not the case. Also you seem to be completely ignoring the arrogant and snotty way in which the gm's administer these warnings. Also you are ignoring that I never was cussing. I was muted for talking about an exploit. How do you explain that? This game let me down in every possible way and I wish I could get my money back. Of all the ways this game let me down the worst of all was the way I was treated and saw others treated by the games gm staff. It is completely uncalled for in a game with a mature rating to be so strictly and CONSTANTLY moderated. I realize your a fanboy and this probably hurts your feelings but the game's atmosphere sucks and it is 100% the fault of the in game gm's.
I think I can sum up most of your points, and I haven't even played this game. So that might limit you from using the fanboy defense.
A mature rating doesn't mean "I don't read and abide by the CoC and EULA." Those still apply. So perhaps you should read those and you will know that you are breaking the rules. Also I think you will find that just about every MMO has it in their rules that you can not discuss exploits. That is to protect the game. Since even though you might not be using it, you mentioning it now increases the likelyhood that someone else will now use it.
So instead of jumping into a game because it has a mature rating, and thinking you get free reign to do what you want. Try actually reading the rules that you are agreeing to before you log in. Then maybe you won't be surprised when a company holds you responsible for breaking those rules and punishes you accordingly.
You are the one that came off sounding immature by acting like breaking the rules was ok, and resorting to the fanboy defense against other people who were trying to tell you such things.
In my experience, the people that constantly talk about GMs, Mods or anybody else managing an online community being dicks are in fact the cause of it. It's simple, you act like a dick you get treated like a dick. Why people can't understand this is beyond me. If they allowed all dicks to be dicks then the community ceases to exist. If there is the rare one that lets the power go to their heads they usually don't last long.
I've had a very different experience online. Mine is that when the environment is oppressive and uncomfortable because of the tyrannical behavior of the people who moderate, that this generates rebellion, anger and frustration among the user base. This shows itself in verbal warfare online.
You can't just declare me wrong. I experienced what I experienced and that is that. I don't like it that the GM's are constantly there because they are not limiting their interaction to merely helpful or beneficial actions. They are harassing players and that is wrong. Also as far as being wrong goes how is this. You said for me to go back to wow but I haven't played wow in 2 years. I never much cared for the game as I don't really like the fantasy setting. What I really want you to understand is that what drew me to this game was it's mature rating. I thought finally.. for once I could play a game that wasn't being run by the nannies. Why does a game that has a mature rating have such strict naming policies? The thing is the mobs in the game use curse words. They use them a lot. I thought for once I could play a game where others wouldn't try to "shield me," from the horrors of normal regular speech. But that's not the case. Also you seem to be completely ignoring the arrogant and snotty way in which the gm's administer these warnings. Also you are ignoring that I never was cussing. I was muted for talking about an exploit. How do you explain that? This game let me down in every possible way and I wish I could get my money back. Of all the ways this game let me down the worst of all was the way I was treated and saw others treated by the games gm staff. It is completely uncalled for in a game with a mature rating to be so strictly and CONSTANTLY moderated. I realize your a fanboy and this probably hurts your feelings but the game's atmosphere sucks and it is 100% the fault of the in game gm's.
I think I can sum up most of your points, and I haven't even played this game. So that might limit you from using the fanboy defense.
A mature rating doesn't mean "I don't read and abide by the CoC and EULA." Those still apply. So perhaps you should read those and you will know that you are breaking the rules. Also I think you will find that just about every MMO has it in their rules that you can not discuss exploits. That is to protect the game. Since even though you might not be using it, you mentioning it now increases the likelyhood that someone else will now use it.
So instead of jumping into a game because it has a mature rating, and thinking you get free reign to do what you want. Try actually reading the rules that you are agreeing to before you log in. Then maybe you won't be surprised when a company holds you responsible for breaking those rules and punishes you accordingly.
You are the one that came off sounding immature by acting like breaking the rules was ok, and resorting to the fanboy defense against other people who were trying to tell you such things.
And the rule I broke was talking about the AP exploit? And for that I deserve the utmost punishment?
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Most games don't allow you to talk about in-game mutes/bans on the forum. If you played any games you would know that bit.
Otherwise dislike that you use the Nazi reference; do you know what a Nazi is?
It's not the guy who ignores you. It's the guy who shoots you in the face for being a jew, black, or other un-liked group.
The Nazi's did not ignore people, if thats all they did I don't think anyone would have a problem with them.
Whatever your bug was what you should do is; report the bug, then talk to a GM, then shut up. If your bug persists and you haven't got a good answer as to why then you quit that game or suck it up and ignore the bug.
Really, anyone who brings up the word Nazi to talk about game-staff (unless they invaded your country and killed your family) should be beat mercilessly with a lead pipe. It's just insulting...
All I came here to do was to warn people about the behavior of the in game GM's and also to warn people about the general shoddy composition of the game itself. Why am I doing that? Because I paid 50 bucks for it and got no enjoyment out of it beyond meeting some cool people and forming a guild with them.
Other than that my time was wasted. Since we both know I wont be getting a refund and that Icarus will laugh to the bank my only recourse is to go online and warn people so that hopefully others will not end up wasting their money on this piece of crap.
I'm very sorry that you all feel the need to attack me over this and it calls into question your loyalties (as in who do you work for) and your sanity. In any case given your attitudes you would make excellent fallen earth gm's!
1: If it has a memory leak, it has to be crazy small because I've been able to run the game for hours on end with no change in performance 2: I highly doubt we're getting the full story here, as I've seen the GMs put up with a ton of crap before taking action. I'm guessing theres a high probability you laced your "discussion" with demands, entitlement, and general hostility. Additionally, Help is not for discussing bugs. If you keep spamming it because they're not listening, they are going to mute you, simple as that. Honestly, you need screenshots if you expect me to believe for a second you didn't have it coming for one reason or another
You may be correct on the whole story,but this is why i have chosen to usually turn chat off when i am in a game.Outside of FFXI,i have found chat in all other games a complete turn off,usually makes me want to slap some one across the side of the head or just get out of the game period.
I just wish people would stick to using chat for meaningful questions ,not how your love life is going ,or how you hate your mom,or how this game is not like WOW,whatever,i am not interested.When i do watch chat i hope to see something i might have missed when playing the game or people looking to group up,i do not want to see your WTS or WTB,that is what AH are for.I can't believe thick skull people do not understand that if the million items in the AH started to get posted in chat,the window would never stop scrolling.Also the endless spam of RMT selling gets real annoying,so basically CHAT has become useless dribble.
Ok back to the banning.There is on one occasion, a good time to mute people from talking bugs,and that is if the bug is an exploit,you don't want the entire server trying to utilize the exploit,then the game turns around and bans the entire server lmao.That would actually be funny,i wonder what would happen if an entire server was caught utilizing an exploit haha.
Anyhoot FE is barely an average game i did not notice one issue or bug in the game,IDK maybe i was falling asleep at the keyboard while trying to find the motivation to play it .
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If some GM is being a dick, send a mail or a message to a chick named Pepper. She's really nice and has been around for a while. Don't go around posting on forums and stupid crap like that. I believe they put a bunch of new GMs in to help out, but Pepper has been around for a while.
Another thing, no one in help gets muted for simply asking a question. EVER. So you must have been angry when you didn't get the answer you want, or started an argument, to which, yea you get muted. Furthermore no MMO is going to listen to your crying on their forums. They train and pay people to make those kinds of judgment calls, the last thing they care about is your opinion on their actions especially in a public forum, there are other, much more mature, ways to handle the situation. Such as speaking nicely to another GM.
Think about these GMs as the old UO ones, you get disrespectful, you get spanked, don't like it? Don't pay.
You can't just declare me wrong. I experienced what I experienced and that is that. I don't like it that the GM's are constantly there because they are not limiting their interaction to merely helpful or beneficial actions. They are harassing players and that is wrong. Also as far as being wrong goes how is this. You said for me to go back to wow but I haven't played wow in 2 years. I never much cared for the game as I don't really like the fantasy setting. What I really want you to understand is that what drew me to this game was it's mature rating. I thought finally.. for once I could play a game that wasn't being run by the nannies. Why does a game that has a mature rating have such strict naming policies? The thing is the mobs in the game use curse words. They use them a lot. I thought for once I could play a game where others wouldn't try to "shield me," from the horrors of normal regular speech. But that's not the case. Also you seem to be completely ignoring the arrogant and snotty way in which the gm's administer these warnings. Also you are ignoring that I never was cussing. I was muted for talking about an exploit. How do you explain that? This game let me down in every possible way and I wish I could get my money back. Of all the ways this game let me down the worst of all was the way I was treated and saw others treated by the games gm staff. It is completely uncalled for in a game with a mature rating to be so strictly and CONSTANTLY moderated. I realize your a fanboy and this probably hurts your feelings but the game's atmosphere sucks and it is 100% the fault of the in game gm's.
We could go back and forth over this all day long and I suppose you're entitled to feel how you want to feel. However, I'm quite certain you were probably discussing the AP exploit in the /help channel. Unfortunately the GM's have to constantly remind players what that channel is supposed to be used for, and at times they have to remind people more forcefully by shutting them up when they cannot do it themselves. I've been warned in /help before for talking about non-help related topics and I don't take that as the GM's being prissy with me. I knew the rules, I chose to break them, and I didn't get upset when those rules were enforced. I've had some pretty raunchy discussions in /region chat with other players and have never had a GM say a word about it. People need to realize that the /help channel is just like the noobie channel in Eve. It's not your global, I'll talk about whatever I please channel. I fail to understand how talking about an AP exploit is in any way /help related. If you want to call me a fanboy for calling you out for bull**** posts where you try to come off as a victim then please feel free to do so. Fact is you weren't innocent in the matter and probably deserved getting muted. Sack up and admit it.
I think some people see the GM as a type of authority figure, and then feel the need to test the limits. When they get smacked down they cry foul and play the victim.
The GMs are there to help you with ingame issues, not banter back and forth.
Typically if there is an ingame exploit, you can /bug it, but don't advertise it in global chat. That's pretty much a universal standard across mmos. It's also common sense.
You don't see the GM's as authority figures? How about the way I am minding my own business playing the game and then get a global message like this,
"PROFANITY IS FORBIDDEN IN FALLEN EARTH! USE OF PROFANITY IS AGAINST THE TOS AND YOU WILL BE MUTED!"
And I didn't even have the help channel on! I keep it off on purpose so I don't have to see that crap. But I watched that turd bailey spew messages of this type across the entire game.
Again I must point out that the NPCS IN THE GAME USE PROFANITY.
Anyway this is pointless. I'm voting with my dollar and leaving the game. In addition I am warning the MMO community about this game as I see it. Maybe I am wrong. God knows it has happened before. But from my perspective the GM's have ruined this game for me. I'm not going to pay have a censor watch my every word and then mute me whenever I speak my mind.
Also it is a lie to say that nobody is muted without good cause. I've seen it happen to a guildie. Also I feel it happened to me. I will not be controlled in this manner.
Please read what I am typing if your going to respond. I keep #help toggled off. I have seen messages talking about profanity being completely unacceptable in the game period. As in /region, /team, /clan, etc.
As for gold sellers this game doesn't even have enough of an economy to even warrant or support them. So fallen earth's tiny little community should be safe from those locusts for quite some time.
Please read what I am typing if your going to respond. I keep #help toggled off. I have seen messages talking about profanity being completely unacceptable in the game period. As in /region, /team, /clan, etc.
As for gold sellers this game doesn't even have enough of an economy to even warrant or support them. So fallen earth's tiny little community should be safe from those locusts for quite some time.
I'm sorry you missed the point that the Global GM shout was mostly directed at the /help channel and also as a general guidance for all channels. Most mature people know how to express themelves without having to resort to an excessive use of profanity, and I applaud FE for informing all their players that it is unacceptable.
I applaud you for being able to shove your tongue so far up a virtual ass Aercus. Mature people don't make bones about how others express themselves. They understand that freedom of expression is a human right. A human right that is inalienable and not negotiable. It is not something that can be signed away by agreeing to any EULA.
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The thing about Nazis is that they killed the Jews. Perhaps if they killed Ukranians, Native Americans, Africans, or Bosnians they might not be so reviled.
If you miss the references to any of those, then check out Josef Stalin, United States history in the 1800's, Darfur/Rwanda, or the Serbian campaign in 92-95.
Simple history. The nazis were hardly the first to practice genocide on a large scale and they certainly haven't been the last, and yet they are the most reviled and widely known. I suppose it just depends on what one has to offer the people who write the history books.
As far as the OP, there's two sides to every story and his side is heavily biased and doesn't make much sense.
This is pretty much it. The Romans were Nazis in all but politics yet for some reason their name and culture is not synonymous with genocide and slavery. The Nazis derived their infamy from 20th Century events along with on going historical and pop culture awareness in the western world. Just like how recent generations of Chinese are very well aware of the Japanese war crimes while failing the register that their ancestors has inflicted the same crimes upon the rest of Asian once upon a time. As such the term Nazi is emotionally loaded.
Here's a word you should all look up and then pretend you know what it means: Colloquialism.
/end redundant thread
It's true. The mods are out of control in this mmo. They mute players and give them forum bans for talking about certain bugs. I think part of the reason is they are trying to put a coat of whitewash on this turd for when the free trials start.
I really wish I would have waited to play this game with he free trials. Instead like a chump I bought it and was muted for talking about the AP exploit. When I tried to take it to the forums hoping to get around the in-game gm's I found all of my threads deleted and then I got a forum ban.
For a game with a mature rating it is incredibly over moderated. The gm's are basically in the games #help channel 24/7 handing out mutes, threats, and just in general being very pissy. In fact they regularly shut down the entire #help channel and take it away from users rather than allow freedom of speech. Which I would think a game with a mature rating would be based on.
The game had potential, but it is buggy and laggy as hell. It is also plagued with several game breaking exploits. But that is normal for an mmo. Especially a new one. But the GM staff of fallen earth are pretty much power mad jerks and they make the game feel very oppressive. I have to keep the #help channel off to actually be able to play because that is how often the gm's are making some annoying egotistical comment or threat.
Also keep in mind too that you can't post anything negative about the game on their forums. They are afraid of the truth and that is why they are banning and muting people. What amazes me is that they think people will continue to pay them for this game under those circumstances. I certainly work. I cancelled my subscription yesterday when I watched them not only mute a guy for talking about a bug, but they also forced him to change his name. His in game name was Reverend. He is now Reverind.
Meanwhile people walk around the game with names like INDO KUSH (drug reference), Mad Mardigen (willow) or various other shit but because they are fan boys they are left alone and allowed to keep their names.
People interested in trying this game should know that the GM's are dicks and are running it into the ground like a bad IRC channel.
Hmm.. it's funny how only newly registered accounts come up with this story... for the 3rd time?
At least it could be varied a little, for the sake of credibility 
Can't help the Deja Vu....
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Some deja vu here as well. I say we should sit down in FE and discuss it- just becuse we can.
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Wow, just wow. Unfortunately you are completely wrong in everything you just posted here. There are plenty of things posted in the forums that are negative commentary regarding FE. And the GM's being prissy? Gimme a break man. How many games have you played where an active GM was online and available at all times? Yeah, go back to WoW and submit your ticket and then wait 2 or 3 days until they decide to get around to telling you that there's nothing they will do for you. The only people I have ever seen get banned, muted, or talked to by the GM's in FE are people who type in all caps, don't listen when a GM reminds them of the /help channel rules, are rude, or are just overall complete douchebags. And I got one of my characters names changed by a GM. It's a foreign word that nobody knew and I had since I started playing. Apparently someone reported the name and they changed it. I wasn't suprised because they do have a naming policy, and OMFG they will enforce it.
In my experience, the people that constantly talk about GMs, Mods or anybody else managing an online community being dicks are in fact the cause of it. It's simple, you act like a dick you get treated like a dick. Why people can't understand this is beyond me. If they allowed all dicks to be dicks then the community ceases to exist.
If there is the rare one that lets the power go to their heads they usually don't last long.
You can't just declare me wrong. I experienced what I experienced and that is that. I don't like it that the GM's are constantly there because they are not limiting their interaction to merely helpful or beneficial actions. They are harassing players and that is wrong.
Also as far as being wrong goes how is this. You said for me to go back to wow but I haven't played wow in 2 years. I never much cared for the game as I don't really like the fantasy setting.
What I really want you to understand is that what drew me to this game was it's mature rating. I thought finally.. for once I could play a game that wasn't being run by the nannies. Why does a game that has a mature rating have such strict naming policies? The thing is the mobs in the game use curse words. They use them a lot. I thought for once I could play a game where others wouldn't try to "shield me," from the horrors of normal regular speech.
But that's not the case. Also you seem to be completely ignoring the arrogant and snotty way in which the gm's administer these warnings. Also you are ignoring that I never was cussing. I was muted for talking about an exploit. How do you explain that?
This game let me down in every possible way and I wish I could get my money back. Of all the ways this game let me down the worst of all was the way I was treated and saw others treated by the games gm staff. It is completely uncalled for in a game with a mature rating to be so strictly and CONSTANTLY moderated.
I realize your a fanboy and this probably hurts your feelings but the game's atmosphere sucks and it is 100% the fault of the in game gm's.
I think I can sum up most of your points, and I haven't even played this game. So that might limit you from using the fanboy defense.
A mature rating doesn't mean "I don't read and abide by the CoC and EULA." Those still apply. So perhaps you should read those and you will know that you are breaking the rules. Also I think you will find that just about every MMO has it in their rules that you can not discuss exploits. That is to protect the game. Since even though you might not be using it, you mentioning it now increases the likelyhood that someone else will now use it.
So instead of jumping into a game because it has a mature rating, and thinking you get free reign to do what you want. Try actually reading the rules that you are agreeing to before you log in. Then maybe you won't be surprised when a company holds you responsible for breaking those rules and punishes you accordingly.
You are the one that came off sounding immature by acting like breaking the rules was ok, and resorting to the fanboy defense against other people who were trying to tell you such things.
I've had a very different experience online. Mine is that when the environment is oppressive and uncomfortable because of the tyrannical behavior of the people who moderate, that this generates rebellion, anger and frustration among the user base. This shows itself in verbal warfare online.
I think I can sum up most of your points, and I haven't even played this game. So that might limit you from using the fanboy defense.
A mature rating doesn't mean "I don't read and abide by the CoC and EULA." Those still apply. So perhaps you should read those and you will know that you are breaking the rules. Also I think you will find that just about every MMO has it in their rules that you can not discuss exploits. That is to protect the game. Since even though you might not be using it, you mentioning it now increases the likelyhood that someone else will now use it.
So instead of jumping into a game because it has a mature rating, and thinking you get free reign to do what you want. Try actually reading the rules that you are agreeing to before you log in. Then maybe you won't be surprised when a company holds you responsible for breaking those rules and punishes you accordingly.
You are the one that came off sounding immature by acting like breaking the rules was ok, and resorting to the fanboy defense against other people who were trying to tell you such things.
And the rule I broke was talking about the AP exploit? And for that I deserve the utmost punishment?
And the rule I broke was talking about the AP exploit? And for that I deserve the utmost punishment?
Actually, if you were talking about an exploit opening in game or the forums, then yes, you deserve to be punished. A ahort ban seems appropriate.
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Most games don't allow you to talk about in-game mutes/bans on the forum. If you played any games you would know that bit.
Otherwise dislike that you use the Nazi reference; do you know what a Nazi is?
It's not the guy who ignores you. It's the guy who shoots you in the face for being a jew, black, or other un-liked group.
The Nazi's did not ignore people, if thats all they did I don't think anyone would have a problem with them.
Whatever your bug was what you should do is; report the bug, then talk to a GM, then shut up. If your bug persists and you haven't got a good answer as to why then you quit that game or suck it up and ignore the bug.
Really, anyone who brings up the word Nazi to talk about game-staff (unless they invaded your country and killed your family) should be beat mercilessly with a lead pipe. It's just insulting...
All I came here to do was to warn people about the behavior of the in game GM's and also to warn people about the general shoddy composition of the game itself. Why am I doing that? Because I paid 50 bucks for it and got no enjoyment out of it beyond meeting some cool people and forming a guild with them.
Other than that my time was wasted. Since we both know I wont be getting a refund and that Icarus will laugh to the bank my only recourse is to go online and warn people so that hopefully others will not end up wasting their money on this piece of crap.
I'm very sorry that you all feel the need to attack me over this and it calls into question your loyalties (as in who do you work for) and your sanity. In any case given your attitudes you would make excellent fallen earth gm's!
Obviously I have struck a nerve.
You may be correct on the whole story,but this is why i have chosen to usually turn chat off when i am in a game.Outside of FFXI,i have found chat in all other games a complete turn off,usually makes me want to slap some one across the side of the head or just get out of the game period.
I just wish people would stick to using chat for meaningful questions ,not how your love life is going ,or how you hate your mom,or how this game is not like WOW,whatever,i am not interested.When i do watch chat i hope to see something i might have missed when playing the game or people looking to group up,i do not want to see your WTS or WTB,that is what AH are for.I can't believe thick skull people do not understand that if the million items in the AH started to get posted in chat,the window would never stop scrolling.Also the endless spam of RMT selling gets real annoying,so basically CHAT has become useless dribble.
Ok back to the banning.There is on one occasion, a good time to mute people from talking bugs,and that is if the bug is an exploit,you don't want the entire server trying to utilize the exploit,then the game turns around and bans the entire server lmao.That would actually be funny,i wonder what would happen if an entire server was caught utilizing an exploit haha.
Anyhoot FE is barely an average game
i did not notice one issue or bug in the game,IDK maybe i was falling asleep at the keyboard while trying to find the motivation to play it 
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Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If some GM is being a dick, send a mail or a message to a chick named Pepper. She's really nice and has been around for a while. Don't go around posting on forums and stupid crap like that. I believe they put a bunch of new GMs in to help out, but Pepper has been around for a while.
Another thing, no one in help gets muted for simply asking a question. EVER. So you must have been angry when you didn't get the answer you want, or started an argument, to which, yea you get muted. Furthermore no MMO is going to listen to your crying on their forums. They train and pay people to make those kinds of judgment calls, the last thing they care about is your opinion on their actions especially in a public forum, there are other, much more mature, ways to handle the situation. Such as speaking nicely to another GM.
Think about these GMs as the old UO ones, you get disrespectful, you get spanked, don't like it? Don't pay.
We could go back and forth over this all day long and I suppose you're entitled to feel how you want to feel. However, I'm quite certain you were probably discussing the AP exploit in the /help channel. Unfortunately the GM's have to constantly remind players what that channel is supposed to be used for, and at times they have to remind people more forcefully by shutting them up when they cannot do it themselves. I've been warned in /help before for talking about non-help related topics and I don't take that as the GM's being prissy with me. I knew the rules, I chose to break them, and I didn't get upset when those rules were enforced. I've had some pretty raunchy discussions in /region chat with other players and have never had a GM say a word about it. People need to realize that the /help channel is just like the noobie channel in Eve. It's not your global, I'll talk about whatever I please channel. I fail to understand how talking about an AP exploit is in any way /help related. If you want to call me a fanboy for calling you out for bull**** posts where you try to come off as a victim then please feel free to do so. Fact is you weren't innocent in the matter and probably deserved getting muted. Sack up and admit it.
this game has the best GM support i've ever seen in any other mmo, even on low-populated unofficial uo shards XD
so, i hardly believe OP
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I think some people see the GM as a type of authority figure, and then feel the need to test the limits. When they get smacked down they cry foul and play the victim.
The GMs are there to help you with ingame issues, not banter back and forth.
Typically if there is an ingame exploit, you can /bug it, but don't advertise it in global chat. That's pretty much a universal standard across mmos. It's also common sense.
You don't see the GM's as authority figures? How about the way I am minding my own business playing the game and then get a global message like this,
"PROFANITY IS FORBIDDEN IN FALLEN EARTH! USE OF PROFANITY IS AGAINST THE TOS AND YOU WILL BE MUTED!"
And I didn't even have the help channel on! I keep it off on purpose so I don't have to see that crap. But I watched that turd bailey spew messages of this type across the entire game.
Again I must point out that the NPCS IN THE GAME USE PROFANITY.
Anyway this is pointless. I'm voting with my dollar and leaving the game. In addition I am warning the MMO community about this game as I see it. Maybe I am wrong. God knows it has happened before. But from my perspective the GM's have ruined this game for me. I'm not going to pay have a censor watch my every word and then mute me whenever I speak my mind.
Also it is a lie to say that nobody is muted without good cause. I've seen it happen to a guildie. Also I feel it happened to me. I will not be controlled in this manner.
No profanity in the Help channel?! Oh my, next thing they'll ban gold seller spam too. How unbearable and completely non-understandable.
Please read what I am typing if your going to respond. I keep #help toggled off. I have seen messages talking about profanity being completely unacceptable in the game period. As in /region, /team, /clan, etc.
As for gold sellers this game doesn't even have enough of an economy to even warrant or support them. So fallen earth's tiny little community should be safe from those locusts for quite some time.
I'm sorry you missed the point that the Global GM shout was mostly directed at the /help channel and also as a general guidance for all channels. Most mature people know how to express themelves without having to resort to an excessive use of profanity, and I applaud FE for informing all their players that it is unacceptable.
I applaud you for being able to shove your tongue so far up a virtual ass Aercus. Mature people don't make bones about how others express themselves. They understand that freedom of expression is a human right. A human right that is inalienable and not negotiable. It is not something that can be signed away by agreeing to any EULA.