Also, keep in mind that I don't think the technology is quite there yet to be able to have really good player-customizable worlds yet in a standard Fantasy RPG.
It's one thing to have the physical environment pre-loaded to your machine and then render it from your hard drive as you play. But to stream that environment in from the server on the fly as you move around in the environment is infinitely more resource intensive and complex.
Technologically speaking, I think we're probably years away from this in an MMORPG environment.
While I would never consider Second Life a game it does have the best crafting I would say. Everything is player made, and that can lead to some amazing things, and also soom really bad things. It is a lot like a 3D interpretation of the internet and social networking sites. So you have the good things such as being able to chat to many people easily, along with the bad things such as large amounts of sex and porn.
SL would also allow for great RP possibilities by allowing people to create the world they want to RP in and unlimited possibilities for character creation. Still have to say again that it isn't a game so much as a big sandbox to play in.
I have played Wurm...loved it but hated the pay to skill cap increase.
I have the perfect game for you its called "Roma Victor", I just started playing it last few days...its been around a while but there is a new update supposed to be coming out (you tube roma victor 2, youll see it). so its only like 10 pounds or 16usd i believe if you buy, now rumor is after update will be more...but its 1 time fee unless you want depo for money in-game. but its free to play and no skill penalties.
Any how read up on it its a great game that needs more population Romans Vs. Barbarians! put my name "Zaemon" as referral if you try it.
hate to say it m8, but what you are looking for is what i look for too from time to time, and. . . well
my suggestion is to take a look at the game forums first and see if there is a free trial. i've already descided never to try out a game unless it has a free trial. and i wished i stuck to that when i bought RV(Roma Victor) but i already said what i wanted too about that game on it's mmorpg forums. lets get down to what your lookin for, shall we
I'm looking for an MMO where you can build and craft a massive variety of items and buildings, with a friendly community and multiple player-made 'villages' or 'forts' etc. take a look at http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/ it's gots its pros and cons. but it's free and you may like it. if your interested also take a look at the wiki havenandhearth.wikia.com/wiki/Axehilt%27s_Quick-Start_Guide
PvE and PvP aren't so important but preferably an open PvP style (where you can kill and be killed anywhere). Please don't suggest a cuddly wuddly Korean anime game... i believe that's been discussed already
The crafting side of the game should be immersive, I.E. not a 'buy ingredients from vendor, click 'Make all', wait for 2 minutes' style. Similar to Wurm Online's style of crafting, where you have many tools and you can use (or build your own) workshops to make items, with quality ratings etc.
As for building, again similar to Wurm Online where you can make buildings almost anywhere and using tools and materials, instead of 'go to instanced place, buy house, place some useless objects in predefined places'. well this can be a bit of a doosey. u might want to take a look at everquest 2(that is you can stomach SOE) the crafting is in demand and you can find recipes and such through monsters and the auction house(player sold stuff) but i don't think it's gonna be as detailed as you want. though you can craft a Heck of a lot of stuff, heck most of the stuff in the guild complexes i believe is crafter by players(though you gotta join a guild) check this out and see. http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tradeskilling
srry i don't have much more for ya m8. hope this helps.
hate to say it m8, but what you are looking for is what i look for too from time to time, and. . . well
my suggestion is to take a look at the game forums first and see if there is a free trial. i've already descided never to try out a game unless it has a free trial. and i wished i stuck to that when i bought RV(Roma Victor) but i already said what i wanted too about that game on it's mmorpg forums. lets get down to what your lookin for, shall we I'm looking for an MMO where you can build and craft a massive variety of items and buildings, with a friendly community and multiple player-made 'villages' or 'forts' etc. take a look at http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/ it's gots its pros and cons. but it's free and you may like it. if your interested also take a look at the wiki havenandhearth.wikia.com/wiki/Axehilt%27s_Quick-Start_Guide PvE and PvP aren't so important but preferably an open PvP style (where you can kill and be killed anywhere). Please don't suggest a cuddly wuddly Korean anime game... i believe that's been discussed already The crafting side of the game should be immersive, I.E. not a 'buy ingredients from vendor, click 'Make all', wait for 2 minutes' style. Similar to Wurm Online's style of crafting, where you have many tools and you can use (or build your own) workshops to make items, with quality ratings etc. As for building, again similar to Wurm Online where you can make buildings almost anywhere and using tools and materials, instead of 'go to instanced place, buy house, place some useless objects in predefined places'. well this can be a bit of a doosey. u might want to take a look at everquest 2(that is you can stomach SOE) the crafting is in demand and you can find recipes and such through monsters and the auction house(player sold stuff) but i don't think it's gonna be as detailed as you want. though you can craft a Heck of a lot of stuff, heck most of the stuff in the guild complexes i believe is crafter by players(though you gotta join a guild) check this out and see. http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tradeskilling
srry i don't have much more for ya m8. hope this helps.
I think haven and hearth is really awesome, but be prepared to not see anyone for a while, unless you make friends with somebody via the forums. Also, it is not forgiving to new players, be prepared to get very frustrated once in a while. My biggest issue was finding flax to make practically ANYTHING. It was literally a game breaker for me and I couldnt get find anyone to trade with for it. Bones for a saw may be an issue as well since its difficult to kill anything in the beginning, but you need a saw for boards. Just throwing it out there. Haven and Hearth IS really awesome though, don't look at this as bashing, more of a heads up.
You should definitely check out this game .... next week they patch in the full crafting system. Already today it's very dynamic ... but soon ... even more ...
First off, I've already tried games such as EvE Online, Wurm Online, LOTRO and Runescape which have these features, so please don't recommend these.
I'm looking for an MMO where you can build and craft a massive variety of items and buildings, with a friendly community and multiple player-made 'villages' or 'forts' etc. PvE and PvP aren't so important but preferably an open PvP style (where you can kill and be killed anywhere). Please don't suggest a cuddly wuddly Korean anime game... I've looked at Darkfall and MO, and they both pushed me away because of their terrible failures at release. (Yes MO had a big problem at release, leading to US people within the first 5 minutes of the shop opening getting a pre-order and beta, while the rest were left with a bugged shop being unable to buy even the DD version). Apparently Darkfall has improved so if you can persuade me that the community is mature and the crafting/building is great, go for it. I don't care if the game is pay to play or free, as long as it's worth the price (I'm not paying $20 a month for a game, that's just dumb). I also don't care about the size of the community as long as there are more than 50 people actually playing. The crafting side of the game should be immersive, I.E. not a 'buy ingredients from vendor, click 'Make all', wait for 2 minutes' style. Similar to Wurm Online's style of crafting, where you have many tools and you can use (or build your own) workshops to make items, with quality ratings etc. As for building, again similar to Wurm Online where you can make buildings almost anywhere and using tools and materials, instead of 'go to instanced place, buy house, place some useless objects in predefined places'. If Wurm Online wasn't so slow, deserted and had better graphics, I would be playing that. I know this thread is probably pointless seeing as there are so few sandboxes out there, but I'm sure someone's bound to find an awesome niche MMO.
tl;dr: Go back and read the whole thing
The game you're looking for was Star Wars Galaxies, pre-cu. The game you want doesn't exist.
Actually, you're partly wrong, it's being reborn. But I'll leave you to research that on your own.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
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Also, keep in mind that I don't think the technology is quite there yet to be able to have really good player-customizable worlds yet in a standard Fantasy RPG.
It's one thing to have the physical environment pre-loaded to your machine and then render it from your hard drive as you play. But to stream that environment in from the server on the fly as you move around in the environment is infinitely more resource intensive and complex.
Technologically speaking, I think we're probably years away from this in an MMORPG environment.
While I would never consider Second Life a game it does have the best crafting I would say. Everything is player made, and that can lead to some amazing things, and also soom really bad things. It is a lot like a 3D interpretation of the internet and social networking sites. So you have the good things such as being able to chat to many people easily, along with the bad things such as large amounts of sex and porn.
SL would also allow for great RP possibilities by allowing people to create the world they want to RP in and unlimited possibilities for character creation. Still have to say again that it isn't a game so much as a big sandbox to play in.
I have played Wurm...loved it but hated the pay to skill cap increase.
I have the perfect game for you its called "Roma Victor", I just started playing it last few days...its been around a while but there is a new update supposed to be coming out (you tube roma victor 2, youll see it). so its only like 10 pounds or 16usd i believe if you buy, now rumor is after update will be more...but its 1 time fee unless you want depo for money in-game. but its free to play and no skill penalties.
Any how read up on it its a great game that needs more population Romans Vs. Barbarians! put my name "Zaemon" as referral if you try it.
hate to say it m8, but what you are looking for is what i look for too from time to time, and. . . well
my suggestion is to take a look at the game forums first and see if there is a free trial. i've already descided never to try out a game unless it has a free trial. and i wished i stuck to that when i bought RV(Roma Victor) but i already said what i wanted too about that game on it's mmorpg forums. lets get down to what your lookin for, shall we
I'm looking for an MMO where you can build and craft a massive variety of items and buildings, with a friendly community and multiple player-made 'villages' or 'forts' etc. take a look at http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/ it's gots its pros and cons. but it's free and you may like it. if your interested also take a look at the wiki havenandhearth.wikia.com/wiki/Axehilt%27s_Quick-Start_Guide
PvE and PvP aren't so important but preferably an open PvP style (where you can kill and be killed anywhere). Please don't suggest a cuddly wuddly Korean anime game... i believe that's been discussed already
The crafting side of the game should be immersive, I.E. not a 'buy ingredients from vendor, click 'Make all', wait for 2 minutes' style. Similar to Wurm Online's style of crafting, where you have many tools and you can use (or build your own) workshops to make items, with quality ratings etc.
As for building, again similar to Wurm Online where you can make buildings almost anywhere and using tools and materials, instead of 'go to instanced place, buy house, place some useless objects in predefined places'. well this can be a bit of a doosey. u might want to take a look at everquest 2(that is you can stomach SOE) the crafting is in demand and you can find recipes and such through monsters and the auction house(player sold stuff) but i don't think it's gonna be as detailed as you want. though you can craft a Heck of a lot of stuff, heck most of the stuff in the guild complexes i believe is crafter by players(though you gotta join a guild) check this out and see. http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tradeskilling
srry i don't have much more for ya m8. hope this helps.
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I think haven and hearth is really awesome, but be prepared to not see anyone for a while, unless you make friends with somebody via the forums. Also, it is not forgiving to new players, be prepared to get very frustrated once in a while. My biggest issue was finding flax to make practically ANYTHING. It was literally a game breaker for me and I couldnt get find anyone to trade with for it. Bones for a saw may be an issue as well since its difficult to kill anything in the beginning, but you need a saw for boards. Just throwing it out there. Haven and Hearth IS really awesome though, don't look at this as bashing, more of a heads up.
You should definitely check out this game .... next week they patch in the full crafting system. Already today it's very dynamic ... but soon ... even more ...
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The game you're looking for was Star Wars Galaxies, pre-cu. The game you want doesn't exist.
Actually, you're partly wrong, it's being reborn. But I'll leave you to research that on your own.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Well, there's always AfterWorld, as well.
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