not a big fan of aion in fact i canceled my sub but i will say this if xfire is being installed i have yet to see when or how i have the game installed atm and no xfire no reference to xfire nothing sooo.. i dont get where that is coming from
AoC sold 700K as well.........not doing so good now though.
To be honest I thought it would have sold more than a million copies, 700K isn't such a big deal really.
The WoW killer? Only deluded players ever thought that.
And nope, For Aion to sell that many copies is actually kinda impressive.
"There are a few facts to consider:
1. Eastern MMOs are not popular at all in the West. In fact a lot of people in NA/EU actually HATE (yes, hate a game) them. From the art style, to the grind, private shops, etc.
2. Aion's lore is nothing compared to games such as World of Warcraft, WAR, AoC, LOTR. For a game with no IP to generate nearly the same amount of interest as those games is interesting to say the least.
3. Its launch comes right after the horrid launches AoC and WAR suffered, which were massively over hyped. Due to this, a lot of players decided to wait before buying the game and see whether it's going to follow in AoC and WAR's footsteps or not in the coming weeks.
So considering those factors, for Aion to still be able to sell 700k is extremely good."
The WoW killer? Only deluded players ever thought that.
Yeah, you mean practically every single person on this forum with anything in their sig related to anime or winged ballerinas? Those the deluded players you referring to..?
This site was a literal sh*t-storm of pro-aion fanboyism...right up until launch. Then it died off. Hell, only reason I'm even commenting now is to bump this thread up is because I find this thread amusing, and seeing that two RMT vanity pets in WoW have completely eclipsed all discussion about other games, including Aion.
If that isn't rather telling, I don't know what is.
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The WoW killer? Only deluded players ever thought that.
Yeah, you mean practically every single person on this forum with anything in their sig related to anime or winged ballerinas? Those the deluded players you referring to..?
My sig is related to anime and I never spouted such nonsense.
The few that did, yep they were definitely not thinking clearly.
BTW Weren't you the guy whose sig used to say: "ANIME SUCKS BECAUSE IT SUCKS"? Off topic, but what did animes ever do to you for such hatred to be born within you towards some cartoon episodes lol. Your posts are always extremely biased and a lot of them (this for example), is just hate-related because the game has an Eastern look to it.
AoC sold 700K as well.........not doing so good now though.
To be honest I thought it would have sold more than a million copies, 700K isn't such a big deal really.
Were did you read ncsoft saying aion will be a wow killer please show me? they only stated that it could be the 2nd most popular.
Everyone except NCSoft was saying that
But myself not being a fan, I predicted at least 1.5 Million copies, due to the fact that this game is far more polished than AoC and it is as accessible and easy to play as WoW.
So I am actually surprised it didn't do better than AoC
My sig is related to anime and I never spouted such nonsense. The few that did, yep they were definitely not thinking clearly.
BTW Weren't you the guy whose sig used to say: "ANIME SUCKS BECAUSE IT SUCKS"? Off topic, but what did animes ever do to you for such hatred to be born within you towards some cartoon episodes lol. Your posts are always extremely biased and a lot of them (this for example), is just hate-related because the game has an Eastern look to it. Grow up tbh.
IIRC, your avatar is from Naruto, correct?
As for my cartoon hatred...there is none, other than it's been a great source of annoyance for me. A more appropriate saying would have been 'Anime sucks because its' fans suck'. Not all, but most. And yes, I am biased, and each of them are based on personal experiences. Don't worry though, my best friend is Korean, so it's not a racial thing. I dislike anything that starts genuine and becomes over-saturated and shallow. Sorta how I feel about MMOs right now, actually.
Katsma is Lithuanian for 'he who drinks used douche fluid'.
Look at the number of servers and you know exactly this game doesn't grow anymore. It simply lost players EN MASSE.
If it did lose players EN MASSE as you say, server I played on hasn't felt it. It is full of players and the server density didn't change at all. It is always Full at peak times and Recommended at other times, just like one of the most populated WoW servers Kazaak used to be. In fact I see people at off-peak hours on Gorgos more than I used to see on Kazaak ^^. Understandable however, seeing as the kids are usually asleep/ at preschool/school.
But you wouldn't know, would you, fiddling with Xfire numbers trying to prove that "AION FAILS" with every little bit of energy you have. You come across as a sad, sad human being tbph. Pathetic.
Do you have queuing lines? Nope.
Does every server show LOCKED at prime time? Nope.
Did they add servers to the rather low number of 14 NA/18 EU? Nope.
So it clearly is a sign that the servers are no longer stressed and the max capacity of those servers (200 to 240K) is never reached anymore.
ALL in accordance with what the oversampled samples of Xfire shows. 50% players just left. A 24/7 on line sample base of 14K users is WAY to BIG. (on line samples 24/7 of 1K users is MORE than enough to have valuable working data).
Get over it, Aion was surpassed by EVE as second most played subscription based MMORPG in the west.
... only 4 weeks after it launched.
So their target was missed.
Ok, ok. Calm down.
Aion is dying and they dropped the ball. You've been heard and you're right.
My sig is related to anime and I never spouted such nonsense. The few that did, yep they were definitely not thinking clearly.
BTW Weren't you the guy whose sig used to say: "ANIME SUCKS BECAUSE IT SUCKS"? Off topic, but what did animes ever do to you for such hatred to be born within you towards some cartoon episodes lol. Your posts are always extremely biased and a lot of them (this for example), is just hate-related because the game has an Eastern look to it. Grow up tbh.
IIRC, your avatar is from Naruto, correct?
As for my cartoon hatred...there is none, other than it's been a great source of annoyance for me. A more appropriate saying would have been 'Anime sucks because its' fans suck'. Not all, but most. And yes, I am biased, and each of them are based on personal experiences. Don't worry though, my best friend is Korean, so it's not a racial thing. I dislike anything that starts genuine and becomes over-saturated and shallow. Sorta how I feel about MMOs right now, actually.
Correct, and glad to know it's not a racial thing.
I see where you come from, I'm actually similar in that I dislike stuff that are getting more and more generic. Nowadays most MMOs (and every single thing in life) are focusing more and more on the looks, and its appeal towards the masses. It starts genuine, but later degenerates. "All flash, no substance" comes to mind.
However, while sad, it's the direction in which the MMO industry (and the world ) is heading. Some people go with the flow and adapt, others stand their ground and try to change things.
I am enjoying Aion currently. I realize that it is not a perfect game, and can see how it could be close to the generic MMOs that came before it, but I don't really care as I know this perfect game I'm searching for is never going to launch, and there is less and less chance of this happening the more years pass by.
It's currently one of the best MMOs on the market IMO, and I'll be playing it... until I get bored. I've already had my money's worth, so all is good!
Here is the IGN article link A really great quote here;
"Although exact figures weren't available, NCsoft executives estimate that Aion has surpassed 700,000 in sales in the U.S. and Europe, and will touch the 1 million mark by the end of the year. The company started with 12 servers each in the U.S. and Europe at the start of Aion's commercial service last month, but was operating 14 servers in the U.S. and 16 servers in Europe a week later. This indicates that the game was getting as much as 150,000 concurrent users in those markets."
Great to see a Korean game like Aion achieving all this worldwide success. Wow, that's all? They must be very dissapointed. I would expected a lot more with all the hype. Well, it looks like Aion will soon be just another MMO in mediocrity land.
I really like Aion and my legion seems to be enjoying themselves also. Of course everyone knows that the bot issue and the lag problems with Time Warner and Comcast are a nuisance, but that really is no reason to bash a good game such as this and in reality, the loyal fans who are actually trying to help rid our world of the bots and spammers will in the end be rewarded with a wonderful product which will surely last for many years.
Which brings me to recruitment. Anyone that is serious about Aion and would like to join a loyal fan based legion of Asmodians, then perhaps Exiled would be a good place to call home. We are currently seeking new members 25+ and strongly looking for Chanters, Clerics, Templars and Rangers.
Really good news to hear, I’m not subscribed to Aion atm because I’m way to busy with school other games (L4D2, Torchlight DDO and Dawn of War and borderlands if the dam game will work!!!!!!) I’ll will go back to aion in 2 weeks or so.
I'm still enjoying Aion, but there are defininite signs of things slowing down.
In the zones that have channels, you don't need them anymore, everything outside of channel 1 is a ghost town.
I"m now level 20 and in my first non-channelled zone, and there's no real issue competing for mobs like there was a few weeks ago.
Could mean everyone's leveled past and is in the uppeer tier/Abyss now, we'll see when I get there.
But one other fact, I'm in a small legion of about 20 friends, and this week almost none of them have been logging in, vs about 8 a night 2 weeks ago.
Could be a minor abberation, but these folks are avid MMORPG players and I suspect they are losing interest.
As for posted numbers, until NCSoft publishes their sub numbers for both the East and West, I'm not buying anything said by other sources including the rabid fanatics at this site.
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I'm still enjoying Aion, but there are defininite signs of things slowing down. In the zones that have channels, you don't need them anymore, everything outside of channel 1 is a ghost town. I"m now level 20 and in my first non-channelled zone, and there's no real issue competing for mobs like there was a few weeks ago. Could mean everyone's leveled past and is in the uppeer tier/Abyss now, we'll see when I get there. But one other fact, I'm in a small legion of about 20 friends, and this week almost none of them have been logging in, vs about 8 a night 2 weeks ago. Could be a minor abberation, but these folks are avid MMORPG players and I suspect they are losing interest. As for posted numbers, until NCSoft publishes their sub numbers for both the East and West, I'm not buying anything said by other sources including the rabid fanatics at this site.
It just shows what Xfire players graphs show.
Today the number of XFire players was an all time low ... 7.1K players That record of 14.5K Xfire for Aion shows clearly a 50% decline in number of players logging in. ALL this in ... 4 weeks time.
And I still think around 5K "players" are over represented on Aion (could be gold sellers could be NCsoft itself).
BTW 2.1 K on Xfire is perfectly on line with the supposed 220-250K subs of the game (seeing that EVE is around 3 K on Xfire).
NCSoft NOT publishing sales NOR subscriptions means it is NOT doing as well as they thought. Period.
And as a stock rated company, they can't plain lie either.
BTW ; look at the sales on amazon.com: the game is OUT the top 20 of PC games . Topped by 5 year old PC games means there is no blood coming in either.
So .... THIS was the MMO game with the BIGGST increase in players ever (in the east)? ... I seriously doubt it, as there were NEVER a confirmed 3.5M players from NCSoft.
So even in this "postive" thread it is coming from ... "Korean" reporters with unnamed and unconfirmed "guessing" sources.
ALL other measuring tools show the Korean copycat ... bombs just like War and AoC. In fact those 2 games even had some innovation which simply can't be said of this one.
It will never be more popular than Lotro in the west. Ever.
After 6 weeks one can say with ease Aion is no longer the second MMO played after Wow. That honor indeed goes to EVE.
Despite the manipulations on the oversampling on Xfire.
The limited number of 14NA/18EU servers hang as a stone of truth ... around the neck of Aion
Good grief, don't you ever give up your hate fuelled war on Aion?
I see nothing wrong with what zon posted. In fact it give us another sight concerning the subs numbers of mmo. He's been providing stats to us, and i too hate hype by companies.
Sales are all fine and dandy, but keep the subs in another thing entirely. Good news for Aion!
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Sustainment will be key. And Aion has an advantage, I think; the game has far greater breadth and depth of pve and pvp than AoC or WAR, the crafting system is more rich, and the influence of players driving environmental control rather than playing a more centric whack-a-mole game like WAR or WoW can be experienced. We'll see.
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not a big fan of aion in fact i canceled my sub but i will say this if xfire is being installed i have yet to see when or how i have the game installed atm and no xfire no reference to xfire nothing sooo.. i dont get where that is coming from
Just 700K? For the WoW killer?
That's laughable.
AoC sold 700K as well.........not doing so good now though.
To be honest I thought it would have sold more than a million copies, 700K isn't such a big deal really.
Were did you read ncsoft saying aion will be a wow killer please show me? they only stated that it could be the 2nd most popular.
The WoW killer? Only deluded players ever thought that.
And nope, For Aion to sell that many copies is actually kinda impressive.
"There are a few facts to consider:
1. Eastern MMOs are not popular at all in the West. In fact a lot of people in NA/EU actually HATE (yes, hate a game) them. From the art style, to the grind, private shops, etc.
2. Aion's lore is nothing compared to games such as World of Warcraft, WAR, AoC, LOTR. For a game with no IP to generate nearly the same amount of interest as those games is interesting to say the least.
3. Its launch comes right after the horrid launches AoC and WAR suffered, which were massively over hyped. Due to this, a lot of players decided to wait before buying the game and see whether it's going to follow in AoC and WAR's footsteps or not in the coming weeks.
So considering those factors, for Aion to still be able to sell 700k is extremely good."
Yeah, you mean practically every single person on this forum with anything in their sig related to anime or winged ballerinas? Those the deluded players you referring to..?
This site was a literal sh*t-storm of pro-aion fanboyism...right up until launch. Then it died off. Hell, only reason I'm even commenting now is to bump this thread up is because I find this thread amusing, and seeing that two RMT vanity pets in WoW have completely eclipsed all discussion about other games, including Aion.
If that isn't rather telling, I don't know what is.
Katsma is Lithuanian for 'he who drinks used douche fluid'.
Yeah, you mean practically every single person on this forum with anything in their sig related to anime or winged ballerinas? Those the deluded players you referring to..?
My sig is related to anime and I never spouted such nonsense.
The few that did, yep they were definitely not thinking clearly.
BTW Weren't you the guy whose sig used to say: "ANIME SUCKS BECAUSE IT SUCKS"? Off topic, but what did animes ever do to you for such hatred to be born within you towards some cartoon episodes lol. Your posts are always extremely biased and a lot of them (this for example), is just hate-related because the game has an Eastern look to it.
Grow up tbh.
Were did you read ncsoft saying aion will be a wow killer please show me? they only stated that it could be the 2nd most popular.
Everyone except NCSoft was saying that
But myself not being a fan, I predicted at least 1.5 Million copies, due to the fact that this game is far more polished than AoC and it is as accessible and easy to play as WoW.
So I am actually surprised it didn't do better than AoC
IIRC, your avatar is from Naruto, correct?
As for my cartoon hatred...there is none, other than it's been a great source of annoyance for me. A more appropriate saying would have been 'Anime sucks because its' fans suck'. Not all, but most. And yes, I am biased, and each of them are based on personal experiences. Don't worry though, my best friend is Korean, so it's not a racial thing. I dislike anything that starts genuine and becomes over-saturated and shallow. Sorta how I feel about MMOs right now, actually.
Katsma is Lithuanian for 'he who drinks used douche fluid'.
If it did lose players EN MASSE as you say, server I played on hasn't felt it. It is full of players and the server density didn't change at all. It is always Full at peak times and Recommended at other times, just like one of the most populated WoW servers Kazaak used to be. In fact I see people at off-peak hours on Gorgos more than I used to see on Kazaak ^^. Understandable however, seeing as the kids are usually asleep/ at preschool/school.
But you wouldn't know, would you, fiddling with Xfire numbers trying to prove that "AION FAILS" with every little bit of energy you have. You come across as a sad, sad human being tbph. Pathetic.
Do you have queuing lines? Nope.
Does every server show LOCKED at prime time? Nope.
Did they add servers to the rather low number of 14 NA/18 EU? Nope.
So it clearly is a sign that the servers are no longer stressed and the max capacity of those servers (200 to 240K) is never reached anymore.
ALL in accordance with what the oversampled samples of Xfire shows. 50% players just left. A 24/7 on line sample base of 14K users is WAY to BIG. (on line samples 24/7 of 1K users is MORE than enough to have valuable working data).
Get over it, Aion was surpassed by EVE as second most played subscription based MMORPG in the west.
... only 4 weeks after it launched.
So their target was missed.
Ok, ok. Calm down.
Aion is dying and they dropped the ball. You've been heard and you're right.
Satisfied? I hope so.
Hate this game now that you've been heard at Aion forums, please.
Is that the upcoming Aion expansion pack?
Katsma is Lithuanian for 'he who drinks used douche fluid'.
Is that the upcoming Aion expansion pack?
Nope, it was picked randomly to satisfy Zorns need to hate.
IIRC, your avatar is from Naruto, correct?
As for my cartoon hatred...there is none, other than it's been a great source of annoyance for me. A more appropriate saying would have been 'Anime sucks because its' fans suck'. Not all, but most. And yes, I am biased, and each of them are based on personal experiences. Don't worry though, my best friend is Korean, so it's not a racial thing. I dislike anything that starts genuine and becomes over-saturated and shallow. Sorta how I feel about MMOs right now, actually.
Correct, and glad to know it's not a racial thing.
I see where you come from, I'm actually similar in that I dislike stuff that are getting more and more generic. Nowadays most MMOs (and every single thing in life) are focusing more and more on the looks, and its appeal towards the masses. It starts genuine, but later degenerates. "All flash, no substance" comes to mind.
However, while sad, it's the direction in which the MMO industry (and the world
) is heading. Some people go with the flow and adapt, others stand their ground and try to change things.
I am enjoying Aion currently. I realize that it is not a perfect game, and can see how it could be close to the generic MMOs that came before it, but I don't really care as I know this perfect game I'm searching for is never going to launch, and there is less and less chance of this happening the more years pass by.
It's currently one of the best MMOs on the market IMO, and I'll be playing it... until I get bored. I've already had my money's worth, so all is good!
I really like Aion and my legion seems to be enjoying themselves also. Of course everyone knows that the bot issue and the lag problems with Time Warner and Comcast are a nuisance, but that really is no reason to bash a good game such as this and in reality, the loyal fans who are actually trying to help rid our world of the bots and spammers will in the end be rewarded with a wonderful product which will surely last for many years.
Which brings me to recruitment. Anyone that is serious about Aion and would like to join a loyal fan based legion of Asmodians, then perhaps Exiled would be a good place to call home. We are currently seeking new members 25+ and strongly looking for Chanters, Clerics, Templars and Rangers.
Really good news to hear, I’m not subscribed to Aion atm because I’m way to busy with school other games (L4D2, Torchlight DDO and Dawn of War and borderlands if the dam game will work!!!!!!) I’ll will go back to aion in 2 weeks or so.
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I'm still enjoying Aion, but there are defininite signs of things slowing down.
In the zones that have channels, you don't need them anymore, everything outside of channel 1 is a ghost town.
I"m now level 20 and in my first non-channelled zone, and there's no real issue competing for mobs like there was a few weeks ago.
Could mean everyone's leveled past and is in the uppeer tier/Abyss now, we'll see when I get there.
But one other fact, I'm in a small legion of about 20 friends, and this week almost none of them have been logging in, vs about 8 a night 2 weeks ago.
Could be a minor abberation, but these folks are avid MMORPG players and I suspect they are losing interest.
As for posted numbers, until NCSoft publishes their sub numbers for both the East and West, I'm not buying anything said by other sources including the rabid fanatics at this site.
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This new article makes me happy. I read so many negative comments about Aion on these forums and I like to see positivity.
I like Aion, it's a good game, if you don't like it, why come to an Aion forum?
Aion FTW I believe is the 'in' phrase to say in MMO's.
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It just shows what Xfire players graphs show.
Today the number of XFire players was an all time low ... 7.1K players That record of 14.5K Xfire for Aion shows clearly a 50% decline in number of players logging in. ALL this in ... 4 weeks time.
And I still think around 5K "players" are over represented on Aion (could be gold sellers could be NCsoft itself).
BTW 2.1 K on Xfire is perfectly on line with the supposed 220-250K subs of the game (seeing that EVE is around 3 K on Xfire).
NCSoft NOT publishing sales NOR subscriptions means it is NOT doing as well as they thought. Period.
And as a stock rated company, they can't plain lie either.
BTW ; look at the sales on amazon.com: the game is OUT the top 20 of PC games . Topped by 5 year old PC games means there is no blood coming in either.
So .... THIS was the MMO game with the BIGGST increase in players ever (in the east)? ... I seriously doubt it, as there were NEVER a confirmed 3.5M players from NCSoft.
So even in this "postive" thread it is coming from ... "Korean" reporters with unnamed and unconfirmed "guessing" sources.
ALL other measuring tools show the Korean copycat ... bombs just like War and AoC. In fact those 2 games even had some innovation which simply can't be said of this one.
It will never be more popular than Lotro in the west. Ever.
After 6 weeks one can say with ease Aion is no longer the second MMO played after Wow. That honor indeed goes to EVE.
Despite the manipulations on the oversampling on Xfire.
The limited number of 14NA/18EU servers hang as a stone of truth ... around the neck of Aion
Good grief, don't you ever give up your hate fuelled war on Aion?
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I'm tired of his constant blatant advertisement of xfire, tbh.
What can we do other then block him... mods don't care.
Mods is there no way to make aion section inaccessible for him?
Zorndorf is a player who hates whatever comes from Korea we all know that by now.
Now can u please leave the Aion Forums and let people discuss something usefull here thank u.
niche market game, it will go the path of WAR and AOC. I'd be really surprised if it beat either of those games.
I played for the first month the game has no real substance at all, and i quit because i thought it was extremely boring.
I see nothing wrong with what zon posted. In fact it give us another sight concerning the subs numbers of mmo. He's been providing stats to us, and i too hate hype by companies.
Prove him wrong if you can...
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Sales are all fine and dandy, but keep the subs in another thing entirely. Good news for Aion!
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Sustainment will be key. And Aion has an advantage, I think; the game has far greater breadth and depth of pve and pvp than AoC or WAR, the crafting system is more rich, and the influence of players driving environmental control rather than playing a more centric whack-a-mole game like WAR or WoW can be experienced. We'll see.