Our young adventures from the <WoW sux0r> guild are waylayed on their way to Tesco's by a hideous beast. If our adventures dont succeed it will mean the END OF THE WORLD... of warcraft.
Haha, the next was the best from Aion and WAR. XD
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
by all that is holy and good on this earth, i was seriously thinking about giving cataclysm a try but now this? yeah i just snapped my discs and tossed everything into the garbage. this is indeed a sad day for the MMO genre, nobody likes to admit it but blizzard sets the standard and now every game out there is going to start in with this RMT nonsense. i suddenly find myself even more anxious and wanting a (large flightless bird) to be done so i can play a good MMO in peace without having to worry about some lazy talentless hack with entitlement issues demanding he be given everything even though he only plays on the weekends for an hour.
Blizzard is doing a P2P game with F2P type added to it..
They Fooled me with the Paid Server Change thing and Change Alliance and the Change Female and Male as well as the Change Race.. i complete didn't add it all up..
I didn't see this
I have OPENED me EyeS
Blizzard is not the Blizzard it was.. i rembered some comment in Blzzcon 2009..
They have merged with another company was what they said..
So now with no Cover Up in plain site anyone with their eyes open can see
PET STORE
Yes Blizzard has now entered the same realm as all the F2P games... But they require you to buy their game.
Blizzard is getting the Cake and the Pie with all the toppings...
Blizzard are you gonna make the new Xpac F2P ?
if you do i still feel cheated you promised to me a game with monthly fees 14.95 i have paid my fees
since 2004... you ........................ i can't say now what i feel... but i am hurt!!
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
It won't start as just handing out epics... it'll be "hey, if you spend $5, you can get this key to this dungeon with all of these great things that ONLY people with this key can access!" Or it will be special holiday "gift" boxes that when opened have various things in them. There will be costumes. And then it'll lead to heirloom BoA weapons that Blizz claims "doesn't affect the end-game and just helps people level up faster and better."
Basically all the excuses the free to play games use because... that's the only way they can make money. But the "things you pay for that don't affect the end-game" in a pay MMO? Yeah, not buying it.
I will not play any game that sells digital items. I play games to have all items obtained from in game. If you are going to start selling items in game, no matter how trivial it is no longer a game but a online digital store. No, thanks. I was all ready to buy and play the new expansion but now World of Warcraft just went on my "will not play list". I will go elsewhere and if every online game tries this crap, I will quit all together.
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
I still do not care. Let people buy what the market will allow. Does not effect me at all. Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything. I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game. I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
I still do not care. Let people buy what the market will allow. Does not effect me at all. Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything. I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game. I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.
I think you're barking up the wrong tree, I haven't stuck with an MMO since SWG was ruined. What is an achievement? In our community we hated "ebayers" it's what I'm used to I guess. The loathed bought jedi especially was a peeve of many players. I don't like the idea of attempting to buy an advantage -edit-, or attemtping to sell one.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Their next step is each time you repair the armour your wearing it's max durability decreased. You need fairy powder to increase the max durability of your armor. Which is $10 for 50.
Pets used to be special event rewards or quest chain rewards or gifts for buying a collector's edition.
I don't understand why Blizzard would toss a shop in the game and charge 10 bucks for a damn mini pet.
What's next mounts? social clothing like special dresses and tuxedoes? Masks?
Blizzard doesn't need to do something like this.
Um, they still are. This dosn't do anything to the pets you can get in game. Its just another option.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
Well this is just great. I can hear Richard Aihoshi bashing out the inevitable MMORPG article on 'How great it is WoW has embraced RMT/Cash shops' etc. There will be no living with him now.
If I had a WoW account I'd cancel it, luckily I already did that some time ago.
It's a RMT cash shop. As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop.
Yep, tons of money and happy players.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...
Why are you introducing this service? The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.
Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example? As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service. Plus... How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity? For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.
Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.
Whats to stop them from going further? after all, everything they saw theyll never do they do anyway so why should this be any different.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Well I see this thread is still going. It seems that this forum is just as mature as System Wars at Gamespot. This whole outrage over completely optional items that in no way effect other players is comparable to the illogical reaction some people had to 360s achivements.
Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...
Why are you introducing this service? The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.
Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example? As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service. Plus... How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity? For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.
Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.
Whats to stop them from going further? after all, everything they saw theyll never do they do anyway so why should this be any different.
There is nothing to stop blizzard from going further. There is no real competition in the marketplace except for the the government of china shutting down mmos.
Blizzard could raise subs, make the entire game cash shop based with little fear, because the rest of the market sucks and most people would just go back.
Like Bill Gates selling his autograph on a street corner.
Blizzard's rep is going to take a beating for the sheer unrepentant greed they are exhibiting these days.
Lovely. Another anti-capitalist drooler bleating and whining because a company is trying to make a legitimate buck. Can you stick that lower lip out any farther cry-baby?
Get real folks. For the price of a movie ticket you can enjoy an in-game pet for many more hours than that movie lasted. Lunch money. You grade school thinkers probably get twice that a week in allowance money.
My only complaint here is that the pet doesn't transfer over should you move a toon to another account. I'd prefer that it did.
Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall
Like Bill Gates selling his autograph on a street corner.
Blizzard's rep is going to take a beating for the sheer unrepentant greed they are exhibiting these days.
Lovely. Another anti-capitalist drooler bleating and whining because a company is trying to make a legitimate buck. Can you stick that lower lip out any farther cry-baby?
Get real folks. For the price of a movie ticket you can enjoy an in-game pet for many more hours than that movie lasted. Lunch money. You grade school thinkers probably get twice that a week in allowance money.
My only complaint here is that the pet doesn't transfer over should you move a toon to another account. I'd prefer that it did.
There is nothing to stop blizzard from going further. There is no real competition in the marketplace except for the the government of china shutting down mmos. Blizzard could raise subs, make the entire game cash shop based with little fear, because the rest of the market sucks and most people would just go back.
That is the sad reality.
This is a game, not an OS (Just to compare). What's to stop them? The people, effectively able to cancel their subs and uninstall the game. They can take it as far as they would want to, but at some point it will bite them in their ass.
Honestly though, are we still discussing the optional pet? The one you can buy for a lousy 5 bucks? The one which you can choose NOT to buy? Damn you, Blizzard, for forcing all these options down my throat!
This is almost like the whole "Violent Videogames make kids kill!" crap. Let's blame everything but ourselves!
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Haha, the next was the best from Aion and WAR. XD
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
by all that is holy and good on this earth, i was seriously thinking about giving cataclysm a try but now this? yeah i just snapped my discs and tossed everything into the garbage. this is indeed a sad day for the MMO genre, nobody likes to admit it but blizzard sets the standard and now every game out there is going to start in with this RMT nonsense. i suddenly find myself even more anxious and wanting a (large flightless bird) to be done so i can play a good MMO in peace without having to worry about some lazy talentless hack with entitlement issues demanding he be given everything even though he only plays on the weekends for an hour.
No one but the WoW haters care.
Blizzard .... are you really Blizzard...
MMMM..
Blizzard is doing a P2P game with F2P type added to it..
They Fooled me with the Paid Server Change thing and Change Alliance and the Change Female and Male as well as the Change Race.. i complete didn't add it all up..
I didn't see this
I have OPENED me EyeS
Blizzard is not the Blizzard it was.. i rembered some comment in Blzzcon 2009..
They have merged with another company was what they said..
So now with no Cover Up in plain site anyone with their eyes open can see
PET STORE
Yes Blizzard has now entered the same realm as all the F2P games... But they require you to buy their game.
Blizzard is getting the Cake and the Pie with all the toppings...
Blizzard are you gonna make the new Xpac F2P ?
if you do i still feel cheated you promised to me a game with monthly fees 14.95 i have paid my fees
since 2004... you ........................ i can't say now what i feel... but i am hurt!!
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
It won't start as just handing out epics... it'll be "hey, if you spend $5, you can get this key to this dungeon with all of these great things that ONLY people with this key can access!" Or it will be special holiday "gift" boxes that when opened have various things in them. There will be costumes. And then it'll lead to heirloom BoA weapons that Blizz claims "doesn't affect the end-game and just helps people level up faster and better."
Basically all the excuses the free to play games use because... that's the only way they can make money. But the "things you pay for that don't affect the end-game" in a pay MMO? Yeah, not buying it.
Pets used to be special event rewards or quest chain rewards or gifts for buying a collector's edition.
I don't understand why Blizzard would toss a shop in the game and charge 10 bucks for a damn mini pet.
What's next mounts? social clothing like special dresses and tuxedoes? Masks?
Blizzard doesn't need to do something like this.
PLaying: EvE, Ryzom
Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum
I will not play any game that sells digital items. I play games to have all items obtained from in game. If you are going to start selling items in game, no matter how trivial it is no longer a game but a online digital store. No, thanks. I was all ready to buy and play the new expansion but now World of Warcraft just went on my "will not play list". I will go elsewhere and if every online game tries this crap, I will quit all together.
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
I still do not care. Let people buy what the market will allow. Does not effect me at all. Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything. I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game. I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.
Blizzard let a kid for "make a wish" add content, items,quest and NPC to TBC.. so its gildewars jumping on the bandwangon.
Coffee crits Blacktornn for 30,000!
I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't. Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.
Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.
That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.
I still do not care. Let people buy what the market will allow. Does not effect me at all. Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything. I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game. I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.
I think you're barking up the wrong tree, I haven't stuck with an MMO since SWG was ruined. What is an achievement? In our community we hated "ebayers" it's what I'm used to I guess. The loathed bought jedi especially was a peeve of many players. I don't like the idea of attempting to buy an advantage -edit-, or attemtping to sell one.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Their next step is each time you repair the armour your wearing it's max durability decreased. You need fairy powder to increase the max durability of your armor. Which is $10 for 50.
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
Um, they still are. This dosn't do anything to the pets you can get in game. Its just another option.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Well this is just great. I can hear Richard Aihoshi bashing out the inevitable MMORPG article on 'How great it is WoW has embraced RMT/Cash shops' etc. There will be no living with him now.
If I had a WoW account I'd cancel it, luckily I already did that some time ago.
Hey look a cucumber.
Yep, tons of money and happy players.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
I know, terrible image quality, that's what I get for being lazy and just using the fast option here.
I canceled my account when they released bc and their greens were better than T3
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
Whats to stop them from going further? after all, everything they saw theyll never do they do anyway so why should this be any different.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Well I see this thread is still going. It seems that this forum is just as mature as System Wars at Gamespot. This whole outrage over completely optional items that in no way effect other players is comparable to the illogical reaction some people had to 360s achivements.
Whats to stop them from going further? after all, everything they saw theyll never do they do anyway so why should this be any different.
There is nothing to stop blizzard from going further. There is no real competition in the marketplace except for the the government of china shutting down mmos.
Blizzard could raise subs, make the entire game cash shop based with little fear, because the rest of the market sucks and most people would just go back.
That is the sad reality.
Lovely. Another anti-capitalist drooler bleating and whining because a company is trying to make a legitimate buck. Can you stick that lower lip out any farther cry-baby?
Get real folks. For the price of a movie ticket you can enjoy an in-game pet for many more hours than that movie lasted. Lunch money. You grade school thinkers probably get twice that a week in allowance money.
My only complaint here is that the pet doesn't transfer over should you move a toon to another account. I'd prefer that it did.
Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall
Lovely. Another anti-capitalist drooler bleating and whining because a company is trying to make a legitimate buck. Can you stick that lower lip out any farther cry-baby?
Get real folks. For the price of a movie ticket you can enjoy an in-game pet for many more hours than that movie lasted. Lunch money. You grade school thinkers probably get twice that a week in allowance money.
My only complaint here is that the pet doesn't transfer over should you move a toon to another account. I'd prefer that it did.
You can always buy another one.
This is a game, not an OS (Just to compare). What's to stop them? The people, effectively able to cancel their subs and uninstall the game. They can take it as far as they would want to, but at some point it will bite them in their ass.
Honestly though, are we still discussing the optional pet? The one you can buy for a lousy 5 bucks? The one which you can choose NOT to buy? Damn you, Blizzard, for forcing all these options down my throat!
This is almost like the whole "Violent Videogames make kids kill!" crap. Let's blame everything but ourselves!
I am sorry but their share prices are just going up...so I am buying more.
Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines