Spotlight on Expansion skills.

Blindchance

I have to say Aventurine just sold it to me. I am definitely going back to DF, they actually listen to our suggestions: first PvE fix, making grind more bearable and now double tap dodge.

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

Now we need a bit more player driven content like expanded village system ( with claimable mines, farms, wood yards etc. in the wilderness ) and more dynamic economy ( player run caravans between cities, local banking ) and DF will be the place to stay.

I have to humbly admit I was one of the main characters behind those campaigns to improve Darkfall game play experience

 

 

StrixMaxima

Double tap is nice. Double jump is horrible.

It's nice to see that Melee is being looked upon. But it still looks a very timid advance.

daarco

This expansion sounds better and better. I didnt even know about the dodge skills!

 

Izure

Originally posted by StrixMaxima


Double tap is nice. Double jump is horrible.
It's nice to see that Melee is being looked upon. But it still looks a very timid advance.

 

I am not going to lie, lol I resubbed as well.

 

Expansion is looking pretty awesome, If they get it right!!!!!!!!, this game will go from a 6.0 to a 9.0.

 

It would be a 10.0 if they could do something about the virtual address spaces and some minor bugs.

 

Cecropia

This is going to be one hell of a great expansion.

Looks like I may actually get to use some 4 legged Mahirim running. Hell ya!

That Spotter skill sounds a little off though. Cover is such an important part of the game for me. Only thing I didn't like in there at all.

Keep it going AV good work.

Ruyn

I also just resubbed.  The future looks bright indeed for Darkfall.

Blindchance

Originally posted by daarco


This expansion sounds better and better. I didnt even know about the dodge skills!
 

You can thank me later in the game...I accept cash

Blindchance

Originally posted by Cecropia


This is going to be one hell of a great expansion.
Looks like I may actually get to use some 4 legged Mahirim running. Hell ya!
That Spotter skill sounds a little off though. Cover is such an important part of the game for me. Only thing I didn't like in there at all.
Keep it going AV good work.

Sorry to burst your bubble but no 4LR, it is going to be some kind of speed buff, it was confirmed on the forums.

Spotter more likely is going to reveal your name ( while targeting a character ) from further away then your hidden location.

DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Cecropia


This is going to be one hell of a great expansion.
Looks like I may actually get to use some 4 legged Mahirim running. Hell ya!
That Spotter skill sounds a little off though. Cover is such an important part of the game for me. Only thing I didn't like in there at all.
Keep it going AV good work.

 

Sounds good for those handling those cannons ..

Realbigdeal

Double jump and double tap? Wooohooo!!!

Cecropia

Originally posted by Blindchance


Sorry to burst your bubble but no 4LR, it is going to be some kind of speed buff, it was confirmed on the forums.
Spotter more likely is going to reveal your name ( while targeting a character ) from further away then your hidden location.

 

My bubble will be fine without the 4LR. Some sort of speed buff will be quite useful I'm sure if that's the way they choose to go.

And thanks (also to Darth) for clearing up the Spotter skill a bit more for me. It wasn't very clear to me on how this could be implemented.

daarco

About the 4LR, this expansion will just be the first step?

AV maybe will keep on fixing later until we have it.

Izure

A few concerns are, race changes might need to be implemented. Since I hate magic, and I am alfar, when Expansion hits I am going to be mainly archer/melee.

 

So if they make bow more damaging when you play elf, I will be upset if not race changes come.

 

And No dont say Re-roll, I do not feel like leveling up tons of skills to 100 that would take 5 months of straight grinding(18 hours a day)

So if they just make keen sight, a ability to Identify targets from a distant then it will be fine, and give mahirim the ability to just not lose stam as fast while sprinting, and orc better hp max/regen and, and human better food skill? and dwarf better either hp max or regen, depending which one the orc gets.

 

If it goes like that then Me as an alfar playing as a archer will not be effect much. BUT if they make it mean real big like more damage, and it will determine the outcome of the fight, then ya they better do a charge or free race change available for a  few months after expansion.

 

daarco

Or lean and adapt to the new rules : )

The changes wont be major, just small racial differences....wich there should be in any fantasy world!

And what kind of person would choose a Alfar if they wanted to be big and strong, or a Orc if they wanted to be wise and have wits? We did see this comming a while back.

Izure

Originally posted by daarco


Or lean and adapt to the new rules : )
The changes wont be major, just small racial differences....wich there should be in any fantasy world!
And what kind of person would choose a Alfar if they wanted to be big and strong, or a Orc if they wanted to be wise and have wits? We did see this comming a while back.

 

You are missing the point, U may not know this but I have been watching darkfall for 9 years almost.

 

They never said racial abilities were in at launch, Hence why I chose alfar, because they had a smaller hitbox. Also they need to SPECIFY the exact racial abilties to a race prior to people picking it, they failed to do that, so they should compensate, if they do not then they will be consider a more growing trash company.

daarco

Originally posted by Izure

Originally posted by daarco


Or lean and adapt to the new rules : )
The changes wont be major, just small racial differences....wich there should be in any fantasy world!
And what kind of person would choose a Alfar if they wanted to be big and strong, or a Orc if they wanted to be wise and have wits? We did see this comming a while back.

 

You are missing the point, U may not know this but I have been watching darkfall for 9 years almost.

 

They never said racial abilities were in at launch, Hence why I chose alfar, because they had a smaller hitbox. Also they need to SPECIFY the exact racial abilties to a race prior to people picking it, they failed to do that, so they should compensate, if they do not then they will be consider a more growing trash company.

 

You choose Alfar because thay are small! Thats pefect, thay will still be small and you will get more abilitys as a Alfar : )

Everyone wins : )

Izure

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by Izure

Originally posted by daarco


Or lean and adapt to the new rules : )
The changes wont be major, just small racial differences....wich there should be in any fantasy world!
And what kind of person would choose a Alfar if they wanted to be big and strong, or a Orc if they wanted to be wise and have wits? We did see this comming a while back.

 

You are missing the point, U may not know this but I have been watching darkfall for 9 years almost.

 

They never said racial abilities were in at launch, Hence why I chose alfar, because they had a smaller hitbox. Also they need to SPECIFY the exact racial abilties to a race prior to people picking it, they failed to do that, so they should compensate, if they do not then they will be consider a more growing trash company.

 

You choose Alfar because thay are small! Thats pefect, thay will still be small and you will get more abilitys as a Alfar : )

Everyone wins : )

 

If they make bows do more damage with being an elf, then I am getting my money back for the 6 month sub I just put on, because as far as I can consider it was fraud .

 

I think it will be a smart Idea as a professional company to charge for Race Changes. As a lot of major gaming companies due that when they make changes that were not in when that person picked a race. It is called being Professional.

 

AV can not say well you chose alfar because you knew that we were going to add racial abilities in the game, SHOW ME ONE PEICE OF INFORMATION THAT SAID THEY WILL ADD RACIAL ABILITIES IN THE GAME AROUND MARCH.

 

Now they might of said they were in, ok so they are not. So I chose my race are the mindset that they will never be in because they never told us they were adding, we though when the game launch it was complete.

Now I could of got my money back a long time ago, but did not. But if they do not do the right thing and let us race change, they will not only lose my sub, but I will fight for my money back that I spent on Darkfall, by saying it is fraud.

Cecropia

My time in EVE has certainly taught me that when it comes to game changes, always keep it in the back of your mind you might end up a bit screwed. It's simply the nature of the beast when it comes to nerfs/buffs and additions to the game.

When I started out in DF about a month and a half ago, I started focusing on my Melee/Archery skills. One because I can't stand magic, and two because of magic being so much more overpowered.  Everyone was using it, and I've seen the same thing in EVE many times. Obviously magic would need to be adjusted.

I'm not saying good luck and use your psychic abilities well. But expect this to happen again a few times over the years if the game is alive and you're still playing.

Izure

Originally posted by Cecropia


My time in EVE has certainly taught me that when it comes to game changes, always keep it in the back of your mind you might end up a bit screwed. It's simply the nature of the beast when it comes to nerfs/buffs and additions to the game.
When I started out in DF about a month and a half ago, I started focusing on my Melee/Archery skills. One because I can't stand magic, and two because of magic being so much more overpowered.  Everyone was using it, and I've seen the same thing in EVE many times. Obviously magic would need to be adjusted.
I'm not saying good luck and use your psychic abilities well. But expect this to happen again a few times over the years if the game is alive and you're still playing.

 

Comparing Eve to darkfall is different,

 

Most of the skills coexist to other races in EVE.

In darkfall only way to change race is to reroll, which takes time and money. You have no other option but to change race.

 

IMO if they do not add race changes even payment ones, then it is a marketing scheme/or failed devs(non professional) by not having these things at launch and then adding them, and then not giving us the ability to change race when they will change the gameplay for us drastically.

Blindchance

That's the first set of racial skills and overall steps to support various play styles and put more variety in the game without hindering your freedom of choice. Another thing is that they haven't revealed all skills coming up with the expansion so to all concerned hold your horses.

 

Annwyn

Originally posted by Izure




If they make bows do more damage with being an elf, then I am getting my money back for the 6 month sub I just put on, because as far as I can consider it was fraud .
 
I think it will be a smart Idea as a professional company to charge for Race Changes. As a lot of major gaming companies due that when they make changes that were not in when that person picked a race. It is called being Professional.
 
AV can not say well you chose alfar because you knew that we were going to add racial abilities in the game, SHOW ME ONE PEICE OF INFORMATION THAT SAID THEY WILL ADD RACIAL ABILITIES IN THE GAME AROUND MARCH.
 
Now they might of said they were in, ok so they are not. So I chose my race are the mindset that they will never be in because they never told us they were adding, we though when the game launch it was complete.
Now I could of got my money back a long time ago, but did not. But if they do not do the right thing and let us race change, they will not only lose my sub, but I will fight for my money back that I spent on Darkfall, by saying it is fraud.

Actually, information about racial skills were on the old website and they did mention that Dwarves for exemple would be able to craft stronger equips and with that in mind, many rolled as a Dwarf. Same goes for Mahirim who were supposed to do some 4 legs running. But while it was mentionned on the previous website, it was not added upon launch.



As for racial skills overall, elves might do more damage with a bow but ranged damage is based on Dexterity I believe so you just need to have more Dex than your elven opponent. Same goes for running, as you run, your running speed increases, etc. Seriously, it's just a boost but not a overpowered boost. It's your fault if you rolled an Alfar "out of ignorance".

Izure

Originally posted by MadnessRealm

Originally posted by Izure




If they make bows do more damage with being an elf, then I am getting my money back for the 6 month sub I just put on, because as far as I can consider it was fraud .
 
I think it will be a smart Idea as a professional company to charge for Race Changes. As a lot of major gaming companies due that when they make changes that were not in when that person picked a race. It is called being Professional.
 
AV can not say well you chose alfar because you knew that we were going to add racial abilities in the game, SHOW ME ONE PEICE OF INFORMATION THAT SAID THEY WILL ADD RACIAL ABILITIES IN THE GAME AROUND MARCH.
 
Now they might of said they were in, ok so they are not. So I chose my race are the mindset that they will never be in because they never told us they were adding, we though when the game launch it was complete.
Now I could of got my money back a long time ago, but did not. But if they do not do the right thing and let us race change, they will not only lose my sub, but I will fight for my money back that I spent on Darkfall, by saying it is fraud.

Actually, information about racial skills were on the old website and they did mention that Dwarves for exemple would be able to craft stronger equips and with that in mind, many rolled as a Dwarf. Same goes for Mahirim who were supposed to do some 4 legs running. But while it was mentionned on the previous website, it was not added upon launch.



As for racial skills overall, elves might do more damage with a bow but ranged damage is based on Dexterity I believe so you just need to have more Dex than your elven opponent. Same goes for running, as you run, your running speed increases, etc. Seriously, it's just a boost but not a overpowered boost. It's your fault if you rolled an Alfar "out of ignorance".

 

Keyword old website.

It is not my fault, it is the devs, for not stating that racial abilities were on the way.And if I have the same dex as a elf, and he has the racial advantage and I play alfar having a magic advantage, but I do not use magic and I use a bow, guess who will win if we both hit the same amount of times, he will.

 

IN a competing game that is bad and people will unsub/bitch(like me) because of it.

Cecropia

Originally posted by Izure


 
Keyword old website.
It is not my fault, it is the devs, for not stating that racial abilities were on the way.And if I have the same dex as a elf, and he has the racial advantage and I play alfar having a magic advantage, but I do not use magic and I use a bow, guess who will win if we both hit the same amount of times, he will.
 
IN a competing game that is bad and people will unsub/bitch(like me) because of it.

 

I can see where you're coming from.

I would hate to see someone who has been following this game for so long and who is still playing get burned at this point. You do not deserve that. Unfortunately I guess we have to wait and see how it turns out in game after the expansion hits.

I always thought that damned outdated website they had for so long, was going to create problems for a them for long to come.

xpiher

The devs have consistently shown they favor player base skill over grind, character build, or other RPG elements. With this in mind, it is doubtful that elves will be doing much more damage with bows than any other race because it detracts from the player skill focus the devs have followed. A 5 dps increase won't make or break a fight just like being smaller or bigger doesn't make or break most fights. If you think it does then you should support normalizing hit boxes instead of what AV did do which was normalize reach in accords with race size.

 

BTW: Interrupt skills, disabling blocking, dobble tap dogeing FTW. Combat in dfo just got a tactical boost.

Hotjazz

I'm making a "mage-killer" on one of my accounts. My question is what magic can I still level?

 

I have greater magic, but can I have any of these - witchcraft, spellchanting, Arcane or necromancy?

 

 

xpiher

Originally posted by Hotjazz


I'm making a "mage-killer" on one of my accounts. My question is what magic can I still level?
 
I have greater magic, but can I have any of these - witchcraft, spellchanting, Arcane or necromancy?
 
 

 

You can use up to t2.5 magic meaning WC, SC, and GM. You don't have to give up witch's brew to be a mage killer.