To suck up the time and money of the next generation of MMO gamers. These guys ought to just merge with Perfect Word Entertainemnt and Vestgame. He'll while we're at it the developers of 9 Dragons can join in the fun. The only thing positive about this game is that it will shut down some of the lame games and companies mentioned above, or force them to develop a next generation piece of trash of their own! Can we do something else please?
waaaah waaaaah waaaaah I am a lame idiot who wants my toon to be the highest level as soon as I start playing an mmo because I cant level on my own... and they should like give me the top gear and weapons immediately... I dont think I should have to put an effort into playing so I am gonna whine like a little girl who doesnt get her favorite dolly!!!! waaaaah waaaah
if you dont like to grind then stop playing MMO's.. No one cares that your a whinny little kid who wants everything for little to no effort. These games are designed for people who like a challenge and like to work hard to get to the end game content.
I'M HARDCORE
I STAND IN ONE SPOT GRINDING THE SAME MOB OVER AND OVER
I'M HARDCORE
I HAVE NO REAL LIFE, I USE A POOP SOCK AND A PEE BOTTLE BUT I KEEP GRINDING THESE MOBS TO PWN NOOBS
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Chuck actually took Tang Soo Do which is a Korean martial art, though he has taken various martial arts i believe. I do mma, and lemme tell u Jiujitsu is not perfect(also have done muay thai). UFC is not a real fight, in a real fight, there are no rules. Have u actually been in a real fight? If someone who knows enough kung fu/taekwondo/karate, they will go for pressure points, u don't need to be on the ground to break someones arm either. Kung Fu and karate are not for movies only. Like i said, in a real fight there are no rules, kung fu/taekwondo/karate will also use eye gouges and other "underhanded" techniques. I sparred one of my friends who is a 3rd degree dan blackbelt in Taekwondo, i was able to hold my own, but when we went to the ground he used pressure points and got me to submit. There are not trained just for stand up, thats what they prefer, but they can hold their own on the ground too. I love martial arts games as long as they are not too grindy, Im playin Jade Dynasty right now and it's pretty decent.
Well, i played football and i use to watch weslting most of the time. I chalanged my friend who karate to a streetfight,( he got the black belt) All i did was rushing at him to bring him to the ground trying to find how i could lock him and once i did, it was over. At round 2, he could last longer since he knew what i would do, but his guard was even more focused because he scare of me trying to take him down again. He end up not even knowing how he will strike me because i could like grab his leg and make him drop, take his arm and strugle to make him drop or i could simply lock him while he was still standing.
BTW, my post on what fighting style is stronger is from what i saw from youtube. Look at those videos for example
There are bunch of other jiu jetsu video in this channel that beat up other class. Some even tried to put some vasiline on them so the jiu jetsu would slide on them. The fight was so serious that even the crowd tried to cheat to make their kick boxing fighter win like in this one
Skip the video to 2:50. This is a real fight without any rules, even the crowd is so crazy that you have the feeling that they all want to beat up the guy that do jiu jetsu.
Well where did your friend take karate? There are tons of dime a dozen places that basically hand you a black belt after you pay so much money, a real black belt takes at the very least 5 years, if u do it really seriously. Kick boxing is crap, i hate it when people compare it to muay thai, cuz muay thai is so much more brutal. What u did with that friend is what we would call sparring, a real streetfight is against someone u hate, or someone who is really pissed at u. A fight where they are trying to put u in the hospital or u them. If you are smart, and you have trained and learned a ton, size does not matter either, and sometimes age. At the person above, i have only played JD up to lvl 25 so i wouldnt know what u are talking about, though from what u said, it sounds like i might be quitting it.
Real fight always end up on the ground. the trained one who do karate, kung fu or what ever, vs guy that is bigger on the street, once the fight start, both of them stand up and fight. After a moment, the bigger guy will get on rage because all his strike get block and he always get countered so easily. The bigger guy will then rush at the karate kid or something. Since he is bigger, he will be able to make him drop to the ground and the one who win on the ground win the fight. Its a faq that jiu jitsu and judo are the best fighting style for streetfighting. Fighting style like kung fu are made for movies. Any smart person should rely on jiu jetsu or what ever style that rely on grapple. If you want to do streetfight while standing for the whole fight, you better carry a baseball bat im telling you.
The video i posted early are realy streetfight(I mean, no rules) The kung fu man didnt had a chance because the jiu jetsu guy make him drop on the ground once the fight started. So all the his kung fu tecnic that he learn for so many years was useless in that fight.
When you see a real one on one fight, kung fu master vs kung fu master or karate vs karate, both will try to focus on the open way to strike, block while standing or stuff like that. Both on them in a one on one wait for the right timing. The jiu jitsu or any grapple style fighters dont have time for those bull shit. Once the fight start, they will jump on you and make you fall on the ground to end it the fastest way possible.
There are millions of faq that will prove you that grapple fighting style are the best for streetfight.
Your idea of a street fight is wrong in a way. Yes, its true that a Jiu-Jitsu master would beat a kung fu master in a fight, but not necessarily in a REAL street fight. your videos were not REAL street fights. Yes they fought each other with no rules BUT none of them went for the kill (for good reason to!)
Response to video
In a real street fight where there are NO rules, the kung fu master would not beat but kill the jiu jitsu master. Reason? From the videos i saw, none of the "kung fu masters" went for a kill shot. Most of their moves were simplistic and clean. Kung fu is not about technique, its about adapting with your surroundings and using them to defeat your opponent. Luckily for the jiu jitsu master, there were no surroundings (like chairs lol). Also, if you knew enough about kung fu, you'd know that there are hundred of techniques on how to counter, strike, and defend, BUT none of them are good grapple counters of jiu jitsu which the main reason why the kung fu master lost. That match was like a giant spider versus a monkey. If them monkey had a banana, then it probably would''ve beat the spider.
Also, the kung fu master had no guard. In simple terms he had no idea what to do. HIs first few strikes were to try to read his opponent. What he did not know was that the jiu jitsu master was reading him. The jiu jitsu master had to have saw videos of kung fu masters to know that kung fu has a horrible guard. Main thing about kung fu is the counter. Quickly after the counter theres an offensive manuever or push back which is why there is no guard in general, its just take and give back. BUT the jiu jitsu master stood his ground and stayed relaxed allowing him to both hide his guard and prevent the kung fu master from reading him.. The kung fu master, however, revealed his guard when he went offense (notice how his hand never changed positions. He is clearly perplexed by the jiu jitsu master's stance and reactions). Im pretty sure the jiu jitsu master knew right away he'd win.
In a real street fight, I'd say its a 50/50 shot between the Kung fu master and the jiu jitsu master. Reason? If the kung fu master hits the kill blow or a pressure point hard enough, its over. BUT if the jiu jitsu master manages to get him/her to the ground then its all over for the kung fu master once the jiu jitsu kill choke sinks in. This is why its ideal to take both strike and grapple martial arts.
Now karate vs jiu jitsu
I'm not well educated in karate. But i'd say the jiu jitsu master would win in a match (not a street fight). Reason? most of karate is about putting up a good strike defense and strike and grapple counter (this is based off of what ive seen). Any kind of offense in karate is very simplistic. The problem for the karate master is that his defensive skills won't matter against a grappling jiu jitsu
If it was a street fight though, it would be 50/50. Like i said, i'm not well educated in karate. I say 50/50 because i'm pretty sure karate has some kill blows. But same as kung fu, if the jiu jitsu gets the karate master to the ground its all over.
Size of the Man:
Size really doesn't matter in a real street fight. In mma matches yes it sorta does matter. In street matches with a ref, it does sorta matter also. Reason? Like i stated above, the kill shot. Doesn't matter how big you are, a kill shot will kill you. A kill choke will kill you. Those competitors in the ring don't wanna actually kill the person just get them unconsious. ( yes im a bad speller) If the kung fu guy was smart, he would bounce around the ring like muhammed ali and read his jiu jitsu opponent. In a street fight, however, if he was smart he would just go for a kill shot or a debllating shot (like a jab to the neck).
Final thoughts:
No martial art is superior to the other in a real street fight. Jiu jitsu is very effective martial art. So is kung fu and karate. They all have their weaknesses though. Kung fu has a bad guard standing and on the ground. Karate has a bad offense and a bad guard on the ground. Jiu jitsu has a bad standing offense and defense (which won't matter if they can take their opponent to the ground). Kung fu can beat jiu jitsu but only through kill shots (even on the ground, if they fight dirty). Same with karate. Jiu jitsu, however, can beat both by kill shot and kill choke. But ultimately, it comes down the fighter themselves. The fact the people (not just you) say that one martial art is better than the other is false. It all depends on the fighter.
Wait, your trashing a game that hasn't even come out yet, and the only info on it is a video? I mean it prolly is going to be a grind but still to trash it so, if you don't like it, just stay away from it, no point in being a troll. Sure people are intitled to their opinions but no need to make a post to trash a game that has almost no info on it yet. Troll post = Fail
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Wait, your trashing a game that hasn't even come out yet, and the only info on it is a video? I mean it prolly is going to be a grind but still to trash it so, if you don't like it, just stay away from it, no point in being a troll. Sure people are intitled to their opinions but no need to make a post to trash a game that has almost no info on it yet. Troll post = Fail
Uh, so if all I was doing was trolling, why'd you have to edit your post to make yourself sound more coherent?
Something I said must have got under your skin. Sorry, but the truth hurts. Whatever it was that hurt you... well... that pain is yours to deal with. Regardless, youre right on one thing. Staying away from this game is the best way to avoid its pitfalls. Fortunately thats exactly what I plan on doing. Anything made by NCSoft gets the same treatment from me. Always has, always will.
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Then basically, the base of everybaddy who want to learn a fighting style should master grapple 1st. Then, they can turn on something else and they are good. What im sick of seeing are DOJO that teach only karate, kung fu or stuff like taht without the basic fighting style, the grapple tecnic. Because of that, they end up get beat up just because they are not use by grappling situation or when they are fighting on the ground.
But again, the problem is even DOJO that are run by elder taht teach karate, kung fu, others, they dont care about grappling. Thats a real problem because without that, we can beat all of them at their week point so easy unless they bring a weapon. What the the lil boys learn teal they are grown up is how to fight for sport or to make movies. If anyone had to learn how to fight for any situation, grappling tecnic is what they would have to learn 1st before their start learning their secondary fighting style.
In UFC or stuff like that, a match can end under 30 sec with bad luck. This is how real it is. under 30 sec, you only had time to learn the stuff you mastered on the ground.
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Then basically, the base of everybaddy who want to learn a fighting style should master grapple 1st. Then, they can turn on something else and they are good. What im sick of seeing are DOJO that teach only karate, kung fu or stuff like taht without the basic fighting style, the grapple tecnic. Because of that, they end up get beat up just because they are not use by grappling situation or when they are fighting on the ground.
But again, the problem is even DOJO that are run by elder taht teach karate, kung fu, others, they dont care about grappling. Thats a real problem because without that, we can beat all of them at their week point so easy unless they bring a weapon. What the the lil boys learn teal they are grown up is how to fight for sport or to make movies. If anyone had to learn how to fight for any situation, grappling tecnic is what they would have to learn 1st before their start learning their secondary fighting style.
In UFC or stuff like that, a match can end under 30 sec with bad luck. This is how real it is. under 30 sec, you only had time to learn the stuff you mastered on the ground.
Universal Farting Championship
Say What?!
Dude your stinky fart totally knocked me to the ground in less than 30 seconds. You are the FART MASTER!
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Umm i was a big UFC fan LONG before nerd boy Dana White took over.
Wrestling has ALWAYS been the dominant ability in the UFC fight game.Dan the beast Severyn i doubt would throw more than 10 punches in 10 fights ,all he did was wrestle guys down and was the champion.
Brock does the same thing,he just wrestles you down with his size.GSP,Silva considered the best in the world and neither one ever wins by Jiu Jitsu even though both are well schooled in it.
I think Blade and Soul is more about cool .ani and effects,but it is run by NCSOFT,so no support from me.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
The trailer I saw that was released over a year ago made the game look fast paced and fun to play. Can't really comment on if it has a grind or not from that video. I am still interested in this game and it is one on my watch list. I just think it is time for controls and movements in mmos to move forwards, and this one seems to take the fun from an action game and a fighting game and stick them into an mmo. Looks a lof like prince of persia with all the wall running as well, and I enjoyed prince of persia.
Wel its going to be with NCSoft, wich means in your face botting and gold farming/spamming.
Theyll pretend like they didnt see it comming, and wipe out 10k or so inactive spammer accounts and say "see we ARE trying but nothing can be done against bots/farmers"
im convinced that the spamming gold farmer companies are connected to NCSoft and share profits.
That being said, Even NCSofts attempt at a no grind pvp "westernized" game Aion had a lot of grind, as did lineage 2, i expect this game to have some wicked hardcore grinding, mabey not at first, but they seem to equate amount of time required grinding to game difficulty. They are right, it does make the game more difficult to enjoy, over a long period of time.
Anyway, all melee class games are rarely entertaining, even if they attempt a kungfu mage with a lame fan as a weapon.
Wait, your trashing a game that hasn't even come out yet, and the only info on it is a video? I mean it prolly is going to be a grind but still to trash it so, if you don't like it, just stay away from it, no point in being a troll. Sure people are intitled to their opinions but no need to make a post to trash a game that has almost no info on it yet. Troll post = Fail
Uh, so if all I was doing was trolling, why'd you have to edit your post to make yourself sound more coherent?
Something I said must have got under your skin. Sorry, but the truth hurts. Whatever it was that hurt you... well... that pain is yours to deal with. Regardless, youre right on one thing. Staying away from this game is the best way to avoid its pitfalls. Fortunately thats exactly what I plan on doing. Anything made by NCSoft gets the same treatment from me. Always has, always will.
Cheers.
All i did was change flame to troll, not mind blowingly different, but i guess you would have 2 find anythign u can to prove that I'm wrong, and i assume thats all you have?
LOL! I bet you were also a supporter of Age of Conan.
"Oooh this games gonna be so great"
*fast forward 1 year*
"This game sucks! WTF the dev team is so lame!"
We already know what to expect from the NCSoft team. Lineage, L2, and Aion all tell us this will be a hollow game with a large leveling curve. The game experience will amount to a bunch of fairly well put together early quest lines petering out around level 30, from that point forward giving you diminishing returns until the only thing you are doing is grinding some endgame boss mob hoping you can loot the 1 piece of epic gear faster than your teammates!
Silly newbie.
Sorry but you fail. Every game you listed has over 1 million current subscribers today. Games like Blade & Soul are doing something different and thats always a good thing. Instead of talking about the these games you need to look at the crap that being released in the West.
Theyre doing something different? Really? Like what? Perfect World has a Kung Fu game with lame furry creatures as a playable race already! What precisely will this game offer that is different from any other MMO currently out on the market? Darkfall, Mortal Online, Tera, and The Chronicles of Spellborn have free form, non targetted combat systems. Ultima Online, Darkfall, Mortal Online, Asheron's Call, Runescape, Ryzom, and a whole host of other small titles have non template based character building models. Asheron's Call, Ultima Online, and Darkfall are all seamless worlds.
So whats NCSoft bringing to the table this time that is so unique that everyone should be in love with this opus?
Every game I listed has over 1 million subscribers? Really? Age of Conan has more like 100,000 - a dropoff of over 800% from release. Guess youre wrong there too.
For those games that do have over 1 million subscribers, grand! You know that Bangladesh has a population of over 10 million. India has over 200 million. Does that mean those are great places to live? Nope. Back to the games topic now... if numbers dont necessarily equal greatness, then over 1 million subscribers can be total abject morons, MMO addicts, gold farming accounts, and newbies taken in by hype.
Which is precisely what they are.
Next!
I am not talking about crap like Age Of Conan. Read you own post. You were talking about NC Soft games like Lineage, Lineage 2 and Aion. All of those games have over 1 Million subs today. I could care less about any Western mmo because they all suck. Blade and Soul is bringing cutting edge graphics and fast paced action type combat that has never been seen or done before. I dare you to post a video to a game that is already released in the west that plays like Blade and Soul. Until you can do that you do fail.
OMG Calamity, you edited your post. HOW DARE YOU! youre so full of fail, and such an incoherent drooling noob.
/sarcasm off
@ OP.... you see that little X up in the top right corner of the window... click it, repeatedly, every time you see it (incase you cant figure that much out, that means youll be closing the window every time you open it, resulting in not coming back)
Youre making all of these assumptions about the game based on what? a video that shows some of the combat, and running around. any info about questing? levels (do you even know if it will be level based progression)? skills? pvp? instancing? gear? even the actual combat system & UI itself (since they just show the fighting happening with no UI displayed at any point)?
Didnt think so.
Until you have even a shred of information the actual gameplay and mechanics, not JUST what it looks like, dont come on here trolling and QQing about how bad you think its going to be. Not only that, but you list NCSoft games that were grindfest.... yet fail to mention other games of theres that werent grind fests. At least speak full facts, rather than half assed comments to suit your point of view while leaving out anything that could possibly suppor tthe opposite argument.
To suck up the time and money of the next generation of MMO gamers. These guys ought to just merge with Perfect Word Entertainemnt and Vestgame. He'll while we're at it the developers of 9 Dragons can join in the fun. The only thing positive about this game is that it will shut down some of the lame games and companies mentioned above, or force them to develop a next generation piece of trash of their own! Can we do something else please?
Then don't buy it, and don't play it. Bitching won't really help will it. Fact is, the "Only" thing you find positive about this game is the exact reason you should be supporting it instead of being a selfish little "Will get banned for saying"
Ur like that fat kid that says "sports suck" just because he isn't able to do them himself and instead takes it out on those who can. Why are you so jelous of the people who like mindless grinding with good gfx? Shouldn't you be happy for them?
To suck up the time and money of the next generation of MMO gamers. These guys ought to just merge with Perfect Word Entertainemnt and Vestgame. He'll while we're at it the developers of 9 Dragons can join in the fun. The only thing positive about this game is that it will shut down some of the lame games and companies mentioned above, or force them to develop a next generation piece of trash of their own! Can we do something else please?
may be we should go back to the time which we played the Arcade Game ,lol.
i sucks of the MMO now ,anything esle i can have fun of.;lol
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Umm i was a big UFC fan LONG before nerd boy Dana White took over.
Wrestling has ALWAYS been the dominant ability in the UFC fight game.Dan the beast Severyn i doubt would throw more than 10 punches in 10 fights ,all he did was wrestle guys down and was the champion.
Brock does the same thing,he just wrestles you down with his size.GSP,Silva considered the best in the world and neither one ever wins by Jiu Jitsu even though both are well schooled in it.
I think Blade and Soul is more about cool .ani and effects,but it is run by NCSOFT,so no support from me.
Brock lesnar lol. He use xteroids to be that shaped so i dont even want to count him. Usually, in real serious sport, he would get banned for using those xteroids, but since its for entertaning and they need money, UFC accept those poison.
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Then basically, the base of everybaddy who want to learn a fighting style should master grapple 1st. Then, they can turn on something else and they are good. What im sick of seeing are DOJO that teach only karate, kung fu or stuff like taht without the basic fighting style, the grapple tecnic. Because of that, they end up get beat up just because they are not use by grappling situation or when they are fighting on the ground.
But again, the problem is even DOJO that are run by elder taht teach karate, kung fu, others, they dont care about grappling. Thats a real problem because without that, we can beat all of them at their week point so easy unless they bring a weapon. What the the lil boys learn teal they are grown up is how to fight for sport or to make movies. If anyone had to learn how to fight for any situation, grappling tecnic is what they would have to learn 1st before their start learning their secondary fighting style.
In UFC or stuff like that, a match can end under 30 sec with bad luck. This is how real it is. under 30 sec, you only had time to learn the stuff you mastered on the ground.
All martial arts have holes in their game. That's the point of cross-training. A jujutsu guy without wrestling can't take down a wrestler, and is susceptible to getting knocked out by a striker. To succeed in a fight you need to fill those holes. If you've ever been in a fight outside the ring, the ground is the LAST place you want to end up. You can get stomped and seriously hurt.
Q29: Skill effects are very stylish. It seems like the combat took a long time due to the amount of animation.
Bae: You could say that. However, the trailer shows skills used in succession. I am not sure if they are considered combos, but, definitely, more than one skill was used. Blade & Soul have a short combat period compared to other MMOPRGs.
Q34: What type of quests are in Blade & Soul?
Bae: Goals and scenario make up the quests. Many MMORPGs have “vending-machine” quests: “kill X number of mobs.” This is boring. Blade & Soul will resolve the problem of “I want to follow the story line, but why am I talking to this vending machine.” I want the game to overcome that limitation. It’s one of the topics of discussion within the team.
/sarcasm on OMG Calamity, you edited your post. HOW DARE YOU! youre so full of fail, and such an incoherent drooling noob. /sarcasm off @ OP.... you see that little X up in the top right corner of the window... click it, repeatedly, every time you see it (incase you cant figure that much out, that means youll be closing the window every time you open it, resulting in not coming back) Youre making all of these assumptions about the game based on what? a video that shows some of the combat, and running around. any info about questing? levels (do you even know if it will be level based progression)? skills? pvp? instancing? gear? even the actual combat system & UI itself (since they just show the fighting happening with no UI displayed at any point)? Didnt think so. Until you have even a shred of information the actual gameplay and mechanics, not JUST what it looks like, dont come on here trolling and QQing about how bad you think its going to be. Not only that, but you list NCSoft games that were grindfest.... yet fail to mention other games of theres that werent grind fests. At least speak full facts, rather than half assed comments to suit your point of view while leaving out anything that could possibly suppor tthe opposite argument.
Im making assumptions on the game based on who the publisher is, and their history with games, as well as a new game thats come out by a company spawned from this publisher, TERA, which I have seen the combat system in and which I do know is nothing more than the same leveling grind without an autotarget.]
EDIT: It is well documented that NCSoft produces flashy, glitzy grinders that provide diminishing returns for exponentially harder to attain levels. The fact that anyone thinks this game will be different speaks only to their own naivete.
So, am I truly making assumptions, or am I making an informed assessment based on a very clear cut track record by the company developing this game, and the outlook of those spurring development forward?
After you answer that question answer this one:
Why do you assume I am under educated about the genre, publishers, games, and projections for 2010 games just because you happen to be?
See you in a year when you're crying about how much this game sucks. I probably wont remember you then, but I'll be happily telling the crowd of whitewashed newbies "I told you so."
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maybe u should quit mmo...end.
if you dont like to grind then stop playing MMO's.. No one cares that your a whinny little kid who wants everything for little to no effort. These games are designed for people who like a challenge and like to work hard to get to the end game content.
I'M HARDCORE
I STAND IN ONE SPOT GRINDING THE SAME MOB OVER AND OVER
I'M HARDCORE
I HAVE NO REAL LIFE, I USE A POOP SOCK AND A PEE BOTTLE BUT I KEEP GRINDING THESE MOBS TO PWN NOOBS
BECAUSE I'M HARDCORE
QTF
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Chuck actually took Tang Soo Do which is a Korean martial art, though he has taken various martial arts i believe. I do mma, and lemme tell u Jiujitsu is not perfect(also have done muay thai). UFC is not a real fight, in a real fight, there are no rules. Have u actually been in a real fight? If someone who knows enough kung fu/taekwondo/karate, they will go for pressure points, u don't need to be on the ground to break someones arm either. Kung Fu and karate are not for movies only. Like i said, in a real fight there are no rules, kung fu/taekwondo/karate will also use eye gouges and other "underhanded" techniques. I sparred one of my friends who is a 3rd degree dan blackbelt in Taekwondo, i was able to hold my own, but when we went to the ground he used pressure points and got me to submit. There are not trained just for stand up, thats what they prefer, but they can hold their own on the ground too. I love martial arts games as long as they are not too grindy, Im playin Jade Dynasty right now and it's pretty decent.
Well, i played football and i use to watch weslting most of the time. I chalanged my friend who karate to a streetfight,( he got the black belt) All i did was rushing at him to bring him to the ground trying to find how i could lock him and once i did, it was over. At round 2, he could last longer since he knew what i would do, but his guard was even more focused because he scare of me trying to take him down again. He end up not even knowing how he will strike me because i could like grab his leg and make him drop, take his arm and strugle to make him drop or i could simply lock him while he was still standing.
BTW, my post on what fighting style is stronger is from what i saw from youtube. Look at those videos for example
There are bunch of other jiu jetsu video in this channel that beat up other class. Some even tried to put some vasiline on them so the jiu jetsu would slide on them. The fight was so serious that even the crowd tried to cheat to make their kick boxing fighter win like in this one
http://www.youtube.com/user/PedroLMariano2#p/search/18/KiWjvbS1pss
Skip the video to 2:50. This is a real fight without any rules, even the crowd is so crazy that you have the feeling that they all want to beat up the guy that do jiu jetsu.
Well where did your friend take karate? There are tons of dime a dozen places that basically hand you a black belt after you pay so much money, a real black belt takes at the very least 5 years, if u do it really seriously. Kick boxing is crap, i hate it when people compare it to muay thai, cuz muay thai is so much more brutal. What u did with that friend is what we would call sparring, a real streetfight is against someone u hate, or someone who is really pissed at u. A fight where they are trying to put u in the hospital or u them. If you are smart, and you have trained and learned a ton, size does not matter either, and sometimes age. At the person above, i have only played JD up to lvl 25 so i wouldnt know what u are talking about, though from what u said, it sounds like i might be quitting it.
Real fight always end up on the ground. the trained one who do karate, kung fu or what ever, vs guy that is bigger on the street, once the fight start, both of them stand up and fight. After a moment, the bigger guy will get on rage because all his strike get block and he always get countered so easily. The bigger guy will then rush at the karate kid or something. Since he is bigger, he will be able to make him drop to the ground and the one who win on the ground win the fight. Its a faq that jiu jitsu and judo are the best fighting style for streetfighting. Fighting style like kung fu are made for movies. Any smart person should rely on jiu jetsu or what ever style that rely on grapple. If you want to do streetfight while standing for the whole fight, you better carry a baseball bat im telling you.
The video i posted early are realy streetfight(I mean, no rules) The kung fu man didnt had a chance because the jiu jetsu guy make him drop on the ground once the fight started. So all the his kung fu tecnic that he learn for so many years was useless in that fight.
When you see a real one on one fight, kung fu master vs kung fu master or karate vs karate, both will try to focus on the open way to strike, block while standing or stuff like that. Both on them in a one on one wait for the right timing. The jiu jitsu or any grapple style fighters dont have time for those bull shit. Once the fight start, they will jump on you and make you fall on the ground to end it the fastest way possible.
There are millions of faq that will prove you that grapple fighting style are the best for streetfight.
Your idea of a street fight is wrong in a way. Yes, its true that a Jiu-Jitsu master would beat a kung fu master in a fight, but not necessarily in a REAL street fight. your videos were not REAL street fights. Yes they fought each other with no rules BUT none of them went for the kill (for good reason to!)
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In a real street fight where there are NO rules, the kung fu master would not beat but kill the jiu jitsu master. Reason? From the videos i saw, none of the "kung fu masters" went for a kill shot. Most of their moves were simplistic and clean. Kung fu is not about technique, its about adapting with your surroundings and using them to defeat your opponent. Luckily for the jiu jitsu master, there were no surroundings (like chairs lol). Also, if you knew enough about kung fu, you'd know that there are hundred of techniques on how to counter, strike, and defend, BUT none of them are good grapple counters of jiu jitsu which the main reason why the kung fu master lost. That match was like a giant spider versus a monkey. If them monkey had a banana, then it probably would''ve beat the spider.
Also, the kung fu master had no guard. In simple terms he had no idea what to do. HIs first few strikes were to try to read his opponent. What he did not know was that the jiu jitsu master was reading him. The jiu jitsu master had to have saw videos of kung fu masters to know that kung fu has a horrible guard. Main thing about kung fu is the counter. Quickly after the counter theres an offensive manuever or push back which is why there is no guard in general, its just take and give back. BUT the jiu jitsu master stood his ground and stayed relaxed allowing him to both hide his guard and prevent the kung fu master from reading him.. The kung fu master, however, revealed his guard when he went offense (notice how his hand never changed positions. He is clearly perplexed by the jiu jitsu master's stance and reactions). Im pretty sure the jiu jitsu master knew right away he'd win.
In a real street fight, I'd say its a 50/50 shot between the Kung fu master and the jiu jitsu master. Reason? If the kung fu master hits the kill blow or a pressure point hard enough, its over. BUT if the jiu jitsu master manages to get him/her to the ground then its all over for the kung fu master once the jiu jitsu kill choke sinks in. This is why its ideal to take both strike and grapple martial arts.
Now karate vs jiu jitsu
I'm not well educated in karate. But i'd say the jiu jitsu master would win in a match (not a street fight). Reason? most of karate is about putting up a good strike defense and strike and grapple counter (this is based off of what ive seen). Any kind of offense in karate is very simplistic. The problem for the karate master is that his defensive skills won't matter against a grappling jiu jitsu
If it was a street fight though, it would be 50/50. Like i said, i'm not well educated in karate. I say 50/50 because i'm pretty sure karate has some kill blows. But same as kung fu, if the jiu jitsu gets the karate master to the ground its all over.
Size of the Man:
Size really doesn't matter in a real street fight. In mma matches yes it sorta does matter. In street matches with a ref, it does sorta matter also. Reason? Like i stated above, the kill shot. Doesn't matter how big you are, a kill shot will kill you. A kill choke will kill you. Those competitors in the ring don't wanna actually kill the person just get them unconsious. ( yes im a bad speller) If the kung fu guy was smart, he would bounce around the ring like muhammed ali and read his jiu jitsu opponent. In a street fight, however, if he was smart he would just go for a kill shot or a debllating shot (like a jab to the neck).
Final thoughts:
No martial art is superior to the other in a real street fight. Jiu jitsu is very effective martial art. So is kung fu and karate. They all have their weaknesses though. Kung fu has a bad guard standing and on the ground. Karate has a bad offense and a bad guard on the ground. Jiu jitsu has a bad standing offense and defense (which won't matter if they can take their opponent to the ground). Kung fu can beat jiu jitsu but only through kill shots (even on the ground, if they fight dirty). Same with karate. Jiu jitsu, however, can beat both by kill shot and kill choke. But ultimately, it comes down the fighter themselves. The fact the people (not just you) say that one martial art is better than the other is false. It all depends on the fighter.
So i agree and yet disagree with you.
LMAO took only a day before the hate to start
Wait, your trashing a game that hasn't even come out yet, and the only info on it is a video? I mean it prolly is going to be a grind but still to trash it so, if you don't like it, just stay away from it, no point in being a troll. Sure people are intitled to their opinions but no need to make a post to trash a game that has almost no info on it yet. Troll post = Fail
Well spoken TheCalamity
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Thanks, only said the obvious.
I fucking love kung fu.
Uh, so if all I was doing was trolling, why'd you have to edit your post to make yourself sound more coherent?
Something I said must have got under your skin. Sorry, but the truth hurts. Whatever it was that hurt you... well... that pain is yours to deal with. Regardless, youre right on one thing. Staying away from this game is the best way to avoid its pitfalls. Fortunately thats exactly what I plan on doing. Anything made by NCSoft gets the same treatment from me. Always has, always will.
Cheers.
Laudanum - Romance. Revenge. Revolution.
Crappy, petty people breed and raise crappy, petty kids.
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Then basically, the base of everybaddy who want to learn a fighting style should master grapple 1st. Then, they can turn on something else and they are good. What im sick of seeing are DOJO that teach only karate, kung fu or stuff like taht without the basic fighting style, the grapple tecnic. Because of that, they end up get beat up just because they are not use by grappling situation or when they are fighting on the ground.
But again, the problem is even DOJO that are run by elder taht teach karate, kung fu, others, they dont care about grappling. Thats a real problem because without that, we can beat all of them at their week point so easy unless they bring a weapon. What the the lil boys learn teal they are grown up is how to fight for sport or to make movies. If anyone had to learn how to fight for any situation, grappling tecnic is what they would have to learn 1st before their start learning their secondary fighting style.
In UFC or stuff like that, a match can end under 30 sec with bad luck. This is how real it is. under 30 sec, you only had time to learn the stuff you mastered on the ground.
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Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Then basically, the base of everybaddy who want to learn a fighting style should master grapple 1st. Then, they can turn on something else and they are good. What im sick of seeing are DOJO that teach only karate, kung fu or stuff like taht without the basic fighting style, the grapple tecnic. Because of that, they end up get beat up just because they are not use by grappling situation or when they are fighting on the ground.
But again, the problem is even DOJO that are run by elder taht teach karate, kung fu, others, they dont care about grappling. Thats a real problem because without that, we can beat all of them at their week point so easy unless they bring a weapon. What the the lil boys learn teal they are grown up is how to fight for sport or to make movies. If anyone had to learn how to fight for any situation, grappling tecnic is what they would have to learn 1st before their start learning their secondary fighting style.
In UFC or stuff like that, a match can end under 30 sec with bad luck. This is how real it is. under 30 sec, you only had time to learn the stuff you mastered on the ground.
Universal Farting Championship
Say What?!
Dude your stinky fart totally knocked me to the ground in less than 30 seconds. You are the FART MASTER!
Laudanum - Romance. Revenge. Revolution.
Crappy, petty people breed and raise crappy, petty kids.
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Umm i was a big UFC fan LONG before nerd boy Dana White took over.
Wrestling has ALWAYS been the dominant ability in the UFC fight game.Dan the beast Severyn i doubt would throw more than 10 punches in 10 fights ,all he did was wrestle guys down and was the champion.
Brock does the same thing,he just wrestles you down with his size.GSP,Silva considered the best in the world and neither one ever wins by Jiu Jitsu even though both are well schooled in it.
I think Blade and Soul is more about cool .ani and effects,but it is run by NCSOFT,so no support from me.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
The trailer I saw that was released over a year ago made the game look fast paced and fun to play. Can't really comment on if it has a grind or not from that video. I am still interested in this game and it is one on my watch list. I just think it is time for controls and movements in mmos to move forwards, and this one seems to take the fun from an action game and a fighting game and stick them into an mmo. Looks a lof like prince of persia with all the wall running as well, and I enjoyed prince of persia.
Wel its going to be with NCSoft, wich means in your face botting and gold farming/spamming.
Theyll pretend like they didnt see it comming, and wipe out 10k or so inactive spammer accounts and say "see we ARE trying but nothing can be done against bots/farmers"
im convinced that the spamming gold farmer companies are connected to NCSoft and share profits.
That being said, Even NCSofts attempt at a no grind pvp "westernized" game Aion had a lot of grind, as did lineage 2, i expect this game to have some wicked hardcore grinding, mabey not at first, but they seem to equate amount of time required grinding to game difficulty. They are right, it does make the game more difficult to enjoy, over a long period of time.
Anyway, all melee class games are rarely entertaining, even if they attempt a kungfu mage with a lame fan as a weapon.
Uh, so if all I was doing was trolling, why'd you have to edit your post to make yourself sound more coherent?
Something I said must have got under your skin. Sorry, but the truth hurts. Whatever it was that hurt you... well... that pain is yours to deal with. Regardless, youre right on one thing. Staying away from this game is the best way to avoid its pitfalls. Fortunately thats exactly what I plan on doing. Anything made by NCSoft gets the same treatment from me. Always has, always will.
Cheers.
All i did was change flame to troll, not mind blowingly different, but i guess you would have 2 find anythign u can to prove that I'm wrong, and i assume thats all you have?
LOL! I bet you were also a supporter of Age of Conan.
"Oooh this games gonna be so great"
*fast forward 1 year*
"This game sucks! WTF the dev team is so lame!"
We already know what to expect from the NCSoft team. Lineage, L2, and Aion all tell us this will be a hollow game with a large leveling curve. The game experience will amount to a bunch of fairly well put together early quest lines petering out around level 30, from that point forward giving you diminishing returns until the only thing you are doing is grinding some endgame boss mob hoping you can loot the 1 piece of epic gear faster than your teammates!
Silly newbie.
Sorry but you fail. Every game you listed has over 1 million current subscribers today. Games like Blade & Soul are doing something different and thats always a good thing. Instead of talking about the these games you need to look at the crap that being released in the West.
Theyre doing something different? Really? Like what? Perfect World has a Kung Fu game with lame furry creatures as a playable race already! What precisely will this game offer that is different from any other MMO currently out on the market? Darkfall, Mortal Online, Tera, and The Chronicles of Spellborn have free form, non targetted combat systems. Ultima Online, Darkfall, Mortal Online, Asheron's Call, Runescape, Ryzom, and a whole host of other small titles have non template based character building models. Asheron's Call, Ultima Online, and Darkfall are all seamless worlds.
So whats NCSoft bringing to the table this time that is so unique that everyone should be in love with this opus?
Every game I listed has over 1 million subscribers? Really? Age of Conan has more like 100,000 - a dropoff of over 800% from release. Guess youre wrong there too.
For those games that do have over 1 million subscribers, grand! You know that Bangladesh has a population of over 10 million. India has over 200 million. Does that mean those are great places to live? Nope. Back to the games topic now... if numbers dont necessarily equal greatness, then over 1 million subscribers can be total abject morons, MMO addicts, gold farming accounts, and newbies taken in by hype.
Which is precisely what they are.
Next!
I am not talking about crap like Age Of Conan. Read you own post. You were talking about NC Soft games like Lineage, Lineage 2 and Aion. All of those games have over 1 Million subs today. I could care less about any Western mmo because they all suck. Blade and Soul is bringing cutting edge graphics and fast paced action type combat that has never been seen or done before. I dare you to post a video to a game that is already released in the west that plays like Blade and Soul. Until you can do that you do fail.
/sarcasm on
OMG Calamity, you edited your post. HOW DARE YOU! youre so full of fail, and such an incoherent drooling noob.
/sarcasm off
@ OP.... you see that little X up in the top right corner of the window... click it, repeatedly, every time you see it (incase you cant figure that much out, that means youll be closing the window every time you open it, resulting in not coming back)
Youre making all of these assumptions about the game based on what? a video that shows some of the combat, and running around. any info about questing? levels (do you even know if it will be level based progression)? skills? pvp? instancing? gear? even the actual combat system & UI itself (since they just show the fighting happening with no UI displayed at any point)?
Didnt think so.
Until you have even a shred of information the actual gameplay and mechanics, not JUST what it looks like, dont come on here trolling and QQing about how bad you think its going to be. Not only that, but you list NCSoft games that were grindfest.... yet fail to mention other games of theres that werent grind fests. At least speak full facts, rather than half assed comments to suit your point of view while leaving out anything that could possibly suppor tthe opposite argument.
Then don't buy it, and don't play it. Bitching won't really help will it. Fact is, the "Only" thing you find positive about this game is the exact reason you should be supporting it instead of being a selfish little "Will get banned for saying"
Ur like that fat kid that says "sports suck" just because he isn't able to do them himself and instead takes it out on those who can. Why are you so jelous of the people who like mindless grinding with good gfx? Shouldn't you be happy for them?
may be we should go back to the time which we played the Arcade Game ,lol.
i sucks of the MMO now ,anything esle i can have fun of.;lol
Who said NCsoft was making this for the Western gamers anyway. Aion was never meant for the Western world and neither will this game be.
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Umm i was a big UFC fan LONG before nerd boy Dana White took over.
Wrestling has ALWAYS been the dominant ability in the UFC fight game.Dan the beast Severyn i doubt would throw more than 10 punches in 10 fights ,all he did was wrestle guys down and was the champion.
Brock does the same thing,he just wrestles you down with his size.GSP,Silva considered the best in the world and neither one ever wins by Jiu Jitsu even though both are well schooled in it.
I think Blade and Soul is more about cool .ani and effects,but it is run by NCSOFT,so no support from me.
Brock lesnar lol. He use xteroids to be that shaped so i dont even want to count him. Usually, in real serious sport, he would get banned for using those xteroids, but since its for entertaning and they need money, UFC accept those poison.
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Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Then basically, the base of everybaddy who want to learn a fighting style should master grapple 1st. Then, they can turn on something else and they are good. What im sick of seeing are DOJO that teach only karate, kung fu or stuff like taht without the basic fighting style, the grapple tecnic. Because of that, they end up get beat up just because they are not use by grappling situation or when they are fighting on the ground.
But again, the problem is even DOJO that are run by elder taht teach karate, kung fu, others, they dont care about grappling. Thats a real problem because without that, we can beat all of them at their week point so easy unless they bring a weapon. What the the lil boys learn teal they are grown up is how to fight for sport or to make movies. If anyone had to learn how to fight for any situation, grappling tecnic is what they would have to learn 1st before their start learning their secondary fighting style.
In UFC or stuff like that, a match can end under 30 sec with bad luck. This is how real it is. under 30 sec, you only had time to learn the stuff you mastered on the ground.
All martial arts have holes in their game. That's the point of cross-training. A jujutsu guy without wrestling can't take down a wrestler, and is susceptible to getting knocked out by a striker. To succeed in a fight you need to fill those holes. If you've ever been in a fight outside the ring, the ground is the LAST place you want to end up. You can get stomped and seriously hurt.
Regarding Blade&Soul:
bnsfacts.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/this-is-game-interview-47-qa-part-2/
Q29: Skill effects are very stylish. It seems like the combat took a long time due to the amount of animation.
Bae: You could say that. However, the trailer shows skills used in succession. I am not sure if they are considered combos, but, definitely, more than one skill was used. Blade & Soul have a short combat period compared to other MMOPRGs.
Q34: What type of quests are in Blade & Soul?
Bae: Goals and scenario make up the quests. Many MMORPGs have “vending-machine” quests: “kill X number of mobs.” This is boring. Blade & Soul will resolve the problem of “I want to follow the story line, but why am I talking to this vending machine.” I want the game to overcome that limitation. It’s one of the topics of discussion within the team.
The hate for korean style games is amazing lol..
I'll try it for sure because I love ninja games
Wall running ftw
Im making assumptions on the game based on who the publisher is, and their history with games, as well as a new game thats come out by a company spawned from this publisher, TERA, which I have seen the combat system in and which I do know is nothing more than the same leveling grind without an autotarget.]
EDIT: It is well documented that NCSoft produces flashy, glitzy grinders that provide diminishing returns for exponentially harder to attain levels. The fact that anyone thinks this game will be different speaks only to their own naivete.
So, am I truly making assumptions, or am I making an informed assessment based on a very clear cut track record by the company developing this game, and the outlook of those spurring development forward?
After you answer that question answer this one:
Why do you assume I am under educated about the genre, publishers, games, and projections for 2010 games just because you happen to be?
See you in a year when you're crying about how much this game sucks. I probably wont remember you then, but I'll be happily telling the crowd of whitewashed newbies "I told you so."
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