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Help! Need to get CPU temp waaay down

Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75

 Okay so lately my computer has been crashing more and more frequently so i decided to look into it and realized its because it is exceeding the 90c mark. That usually only happens when streaming video (rarely) or playing any game these days. I have been monitoring my CPU idle temp and it is on average 86-89c between the 4 cores. (safety shut off is 90c). Ive opened my computer up, cleaned the dust and everything out. Have 2 fans pushing air in and 2 pulling air out. Im just wondering what other steps i could take to lower my temp or i may never be able to play games again. Especailly since my idle temp should be around 35-45c. 

Thanks in advance.

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  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Running a stock CPU cooling fan?

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  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75

     Im using the stock fans for the Antec Nine Hundred case

     

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&cm_re=antec-_-11-129-021-_-Product

     

    dont know if that will help at all

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  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    What CPU are you using?

     

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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    Thats only possible if you are overclocking your CPU or you have set the heatsink on wrong.  I suggest getting a new heatsink, you will also need the thermal material remover.

  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75

     Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83Ghz

     

    *not overclocked

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  • GrymmoireGrymmoire Member UncommonPosts: 191

    If you are sure all dust is out of CPU cooler fan fins and the blades are clean,  make sure that fan and all others are operating. If you can stand the noise (some are quiet others not so much) go into your bios and turn off all power saving features that relate to fan throttling and let them all spin to max rpms.

    If this fails to lower temperatures, perhaps remove the CPU cooler, clean it and the CPU, apply a thin coat of Artic Silver or comparable good thermal paste and reattach.

    Last suggestion, add more powerful fans or breakdown and buy a computer case like the HAF with high airflow; anyone suffering overheating in those cases has one heck of a beastial setup (twin 1k power watt supplies; 4-6 hard drives; triple x2 card etc.) lol.

     <Edited since a subsequent post notes this is a desktop system.>

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    Originally posted by Banhammer16


     Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83Ghz
     
    *not overclocked



     

    As Cleffy said, you might want to check to make sure the CPU heatsink is properly set as well as having some thermal contact paste (Arctic Silver or something along those lines).

    If the Fan and Heatsink is an Intel heatsink/fan combo that came with the CPU, you might want to look into getting a new 3rd party fan/heatsink for better cooling.

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  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75
    Originally posted by Grymmoire


    You did not specify, but i will assume you have a desktop computer, not a notebook. If you are sure all dust is out of CPU cooler fan fins and the blades are clean,  make sure that fan and all others are operating. If you can stand the noise (some are quiet others not so much) go into your bios and turn off all power saving features that relate to fan throttling and let them all spin to max rpms.
    If this fails to lower temperatures, perhaps remove the CPU cooler, clean it and the CPU, apply a thin coat of Artic Silver or comparable good thermal paste and reattach.
    Last suggestion, add more powerful fans or breakdown and buy a computer case like the HAF with high airflow; anyone suffering overheating in those cases has one heck of a beastial setup (twin 1k power watt supplies; 4-6 hard drives; triple x2 card etc.) lol.
     

    i have gone into Bios and tweaked with it and its brings me down to low 80s at idle with them running at  the most powerful setting (1900-2100rpm) which i dont know if that is good or not. I have not tried thermal past and maybe that would be my best bet, other  wise i may just take your case suggestion. Any idea on the pricing of that case?

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  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75
    Originally posted by fyerwall

    Originally posted by Banhammer16


     Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83Ghz
     
    *not overclocked



     

    As Cleffy said, you might want to check to make sure the CPU heatsink is properly set as well as having some thermal contact paste (Arctic Silver or something along those lines).

    If the Fan and Heatsink is an Intel heatsink/fan combo that came with the CPU, you might want to look into getting a new 3rd party fan/heatsink for better cooling.

    The heatsink is in place correctly i checked all that when i cleaned it out earlier.

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  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75

     OH! And thank you to you guys for helping me out with this issue. Will definitely make my life alot better. haha

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  • Cyborg99Cyborg99 Member Posts: 576

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  • chesiremorphchesiremorph Member Posts: 128

    Replace the cooler fan before you destroy your CPU. It's going bad.

    Often cooler fans do not burn out.... sometimes they fade away. it seems to me that your cooler fan is fadeing away. It may not be keeping up with the necessary RPMs to cool your cpu, and even may be registering RPMs incorrectly.

    If you have cleaned it well and nothing has improved, burn out is coming soon to a theater near you. I lost a P4 that way.

    Sizzle Fry

     

    P.S. ... Use a good thermal compound when you apply a new fan, GO COPPER!!!

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  • GrymmoireGrymmoire Member UncommonPosts: 191

    The temperatures were 35-45 celsius before and only recently jumped (?) is what is odd. It infers the Antec case you have is fine but at any rate, I recommend this HAF to any of my friends rebuilding since the features are outstanding. I have seen it as low as $99.00 but here is a current price from newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

    I would not buy a case though until I ruled out all other possible causes, needless expense otherwise.

    Usually though, a sudden rise in temperatures from previous lower ones utilizing the same programs is a thermal issue, almost certain. Do as another recommended, remove the heatsink, use a small amount of the purest isopropyl alcohol or acetone you can get and apply sparingly to Q-tips. Ensure the CPU and bottom of the cooler are competely dry, then use either the tube or Artic Silver also has a bottled variety with a small brush that applies very easily; coat the cpu with enough to obscure the writing on the chip but not a glob. The idea is enough to seal any slight imperfections in the cpu and cooler surfaces; too much actually will raise temperatures due to pockets.

    If you are considering a new heatsink, look at those that push a decent amount of cfm of air and most importantly, have good attachment mechanisms (those push in and turn are horrible imo) that screw into plates, providing good attachment and weight support. Like this one:  http://www.xoxide.com/tuniq-t-120led-hsf.html

    Another thought just came to me too. Not being a guru on these things, I wonder if the thermal sensor located beneath the cpu can go wonky and give higher readings than what is really there? Any others know if Everest or HWMonitor reads from the sensor or are independent thermal reading programs he can try?

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362

    Check the temperatures with realtemp. If still the same, something went wrong with cooler installation. 

  • XerithXerith Member Posts: 970

    I have an antec 900 and my cpu under full load is about 45 degrees. Im using an aftermarket cooler but its just a cheap Acer one I picked up for about 15 bucks. If you are using the standard one that came with the cpu, check to see if the plastic screws have loosened from the mobo. The reason why  I bought a different cpu fan was the fact that the ones that come stock use plastic screws to basically hold themselves on by force, which over time they can become lose or warp the mobo. I opted for one that used standard metal screws and screwed into a back plate which you place behind the mobo to avoid this issue and to make sure it wouldnt become lose.

    If you never placed thermal paste or it was put on long ago it would be your issue. Arctic Silver will last about a good year or so on a hot gaming system before it breaks down and becomes stiff, losing its purpose of forming a bond between the cpu and the heat sink. A tube of it costs you 5 bucks and you should always have some on hand. I like to reapply mine about every 6-8 months to ensure its always fresh.

  • noquarternoquarter Member Posts: 1,170

    The plastic pegs on stock Intel coolers are terrible. I had a very difficult one that had a peg that refused to pop through, even when they seem popped through they may not be through all the way enough to put pressure on the heatsink and they can work loose.


    Since you probably have to redo the thermal paste on your heatsink I'd just grab an aftermarket cooler while you have it off, they sit on there much more solid. I use a credit card to clean the CPU off before hitting it with alcohol and q-tips.

  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75
    Originally posted by Xerith


    I have an antec 900 and my cpu under full load is about 45 degrees. Im using an aftermarket cooler but its just a cheap Acer one I picked up for about 15 bucks. If you are using the standard one that came with the cpu, check to see if the plastic screws have loosened from the mobo. The reason why  I bought a different cpu fan was the fact that the ones that come stock use plastic screws to basically hold themselves on by force, which over time they can become lose or warp the mobo. I opted for one that used standard metal screws and screwed into a back plate which you place behind the mobo to avoid this issue and to make sure it wouldnt become lose.
    If you never placed thermal paste or it was put on long ago it would be your issue. Arctic Silver will last about a good year or so on a hot gaming system before it breaks down and becomes stiff, losing its purpose of forming a bond between the cpu and the heat sink. A tube of it costs you 5 bucks and you should always have some on hand. I like to reapply mine about every 6-8 months to ensure its always fresh.

    Well right now im at anywhere from 3-6% load and im running at about 78-80c... haha so to me, you pulling off that low a temp on full is amazing

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  • legatona89legatona89 Member Posts: 7

    Holy shit dude, thats way too hot. Make sure there is a thin even layer of thermal paste. I like the X method but there are a lot of ways you can apply thermal paste. Make sure all of the fans are working and everything as well.

  • RealmLordsRealmLords Member Posts: 358

    New cpu cooler (heatsink and fan), new thermal grease.  Heat kills cpus.

     

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  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75

     Best place to buy them? Best buy? Walmart? Or better to buy it online?

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  • shalldoomshalldoom Member UncommonPosts: 106

    Replace the cpu fan asap....... newegg.com is your best friend.

  • shalldoomshalldoom Member UncommonPosts: 106

    This fan should keep your cpu cool enough and its on sale too.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003

  • Banhammer16Banhammer16 Member Posts: 75
    Originally posted by shalldoom


    This fan should keep your cpu cool enough and its on sale too.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003
     

    Thanks i think i might just go with that model, or the model above it by them with Blue LED lighting so it matches the rest of my comp. =)

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  • shalldoomshalldoom Member UncommonPosts: 106


    Originally posted by Banhammer16
    Originally posted by shalldoom This fan should keep your cpu cool enough and its on sale too.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003
     
    Thanks i think i might just go with that model, or the model above it by them with Blue LED lighting so it matches the rest of my comp. =)

    Can you link me the blue LED fan? cuz i can't find it.

  • JoeTanJoeTan Member UncommonPosts: 70

    Those temps are too high, and nothing you can do will cool it down more ( opening case, more fans etc )

     

    Im 99 % certain your temps are caused by a broken / malfunctioning CPU cooler, get a new one ASAP ( like others have suggested ), or you is fucked :).

     

    There is no way a working cooler with properly applied compound will let your temps go that high, even if you turn it way down in rpm.

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