I still dont understand how this article managed to get us.. those who dont really even care, and know the difference between what is acceptable to us in a _game_ for god's sake. Have us argueing, or rather debating amongst ourselves the difference between porn and sex in media...
Ugh, guess its 1 point for the right wing ultra conservatives... I cant feed em anymore.
You've got it really mixed up in your head.
Social conservatism & liberalism has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with economical conservatism & liberalism.
In fact, most of the political parties in the world that are right wing are social liberals. It is left-wing democratic socialists who actually WANT TO IMPOSE as many social rules and policies as possible.
Really? So all these right wing republican's in the U.S who are anti-gay and dont want to 'god forbid!' teach the youth how to use a condom.. arent trying to impose thier social rules AND religious views on the public? What the hell ever happened to separation of church and state.
Right Wing republicans aren't religious at all. They aren't trying to impose their social rules or religious views on the pubilc.
Right wing republicans care about only one thing: Their corporate masters.
By pretending to care about these things, and by pretending to go against them, they gain the vote of the South. The south is no more religious than the rest of the nation, they just have more churches. Because it's not about religion in the south, it's about culture. People dont' care about their religion, they care about their roots, their culture, their beliefs.
It's all pretend manipulation. The republicans have had full control of the government before, but never did anything about abortion. Yet they constantly parade to be anti-abortion. Well, they are, and they DO vote against abortion law. But that's irrelevant because abortion was settled bigtime in Roe vs Wade. They have never done anything to overturn Roe vs Wade, the pillar of abortion law. Why? Because that would be stupid! If they fix abortion by destroying Roe vs Wade and overturning it to give their constituents what they want, they will LOSE ALL THOSE VOTES! because without abortion as a hot topic, all the christian right votes will start to split. By never doing ANYTHING to actually be anti-abortion other than insignificant things to save face, they retain all those votes because the south is so ignorant they don't realize the republicans actually DONT care and actually ARENT anti-abortion. They also fail to realize that the democrats, who help the poor, stop more abortion than the republicans EVER have. The #1 reason for abortions are the lack of money. Help the poor financially, and you stop a multitude of abortions. The republicans haven't stopped any, they just pretend to.
That is just ONE example of many that republicans do to manipulate the ignorant to retain votes. It's NOT a coincidence that the vast majority of republicans are rather rich or live in high poverty (ignorant) southern regions. This isn't saying that republicans are ignorant, but that they have been manipulated and because of their past and present ignorance they fail to realize they're voting for the wrong party. It only takes ONE generation of ignorant people to instill in their future generations a stern republican idealogy to always vote conservative. Afterall, people tend to vote exactly as their parents did.
And the South is ignorant. So Corporations buy out the Republican party, which in turn misinforms the South manipulating their culture to convince them of whatever they want to keep them from voting how they'd want to vote (democrat) and thus retain power, thus retaining money (corporate payment).
It has NOTHING to do with religion or social rules. It's all based on social manipulation to insure votes, which insure corporate payouts.
Angelof, you really need to stop watching Alex Jones. He's amusing at best and his theory - holywood is controlled by arabs" is on the edge of insanity.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
Angelof, you really need to stop watching Alex Jones. He's amusing at best and his theory - holywood is controlled by arabs" is on the edge of insanity.
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
It doesn't take a sociologist to see that by giving kids condoms, you're ENCOURAGING sex, which will increase sexual encounters, which will increase the problem.
It also doesn't take a sociologist to see that when there is a problem, ignoring it or telling kids to stop (abstinence programs) won't work either.
Since when did "Don't do it, it's stupid and you might die!!!" EVER stop a teenager? LoL...
I honestly don't know the solution, but disease control and teen pregnancy is always a problem, and a big one at that. If we don't do something to lower the rates, then our future generation will be emotionally disturbed morons (teen parents are less adequate in every way to raise a child) and our present generation will be dead by AIDS, lol.
That's taking it to the extreme, but if anyone wants to know WHY people are so messed up, they need only look at the person's parents, which have a high chance that they were uneducated and incapable of providing for their children healthy parenting and sufficient funding. Often because they themselves had so many problems, bc THEIR parents treated them like crap. It almost always ends up starting with a bad parent who was bad because they lacked proper education. Education prevents stupid decisions, abusive mentality (drugs, physical punishment, hatred) and everyone knows a more educated parent means a better parent.
As Freud might say, "So... tell me about your mother..."
Angelof, you really need to stop watching Alex Jones. He's amusing at best and his theory - holywood is controlled by arabs" is on the edge of insanity.
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
This is a jabber sorry to say. We all know democracy and politics are about being the biggest populist and having the best team of social manipulators. Not just republicans or liberals, or communists or whoever.
Anyway
RPG's were at first just a simple dungeons where you leveled up and killed monsters in a dungeon.
Then they added maps!
Then they added quests
Then they added outdoor areas
Then they added dialogue lines
Then they added multiple ways to conquer the game
Then they added multiple choices, moral dilemmas
Then they added relationships between characters and NPCs
Now then are adding sexual scenes.
It's a natural progression what the market is asking.
In cinema, you probably not bitch on new James Bond movie because there's sex scenes eventho you wanted to see an action. Barriers between genres are being torn down.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
Angelof, you really need to stop watching Alex Jones. He's amusing at best and his theory - holywood is controlled by arabs" is on the edge of insanity.
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
You complained about it focusing on gore. Do you think a sharpened sword wont cause the spill and spray of blood?
There was also NO nudity, nothing but spooning. Romance lines are also a feature, quest and always directed you torwards slaying somebody for your chosen romance partner. So what did BioWare miss out on?
Angelof, you really need to stop watching Alex Jones. He's amusing at best and his theory - holywood is controlled by arabs" is on the edge of insanity.
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
This is a jabber sorry to say. We all know democracy and politics are about being the biggest populist and having the best team of social manipulators. Not just republicans or liberals, or communists or whoever.
Anyway
RPG's were at first just a simple dungeons where you leveled up and killed monsters in a dungeon.
Then they added maps!
Then they added quests
Then they added outdoor areas
Then they added dialogue lines
Then they added multiple ways to conquer the game
Then they added multiple choices, moral dilemmas
Then they added relationships between characters and NPCs
Now then are adding sexual scenes.
It's a natural progression what the market is asking.
In cinema, you probably not bitch on new James Bond movie because there's sex scenes eventho you wanted to see an action. Barriers between genres are being torn down.
People don't want to see pornography and sex scenes in their content as much as they want to see [insert theme of content].
The argument isn't that people don't want sex in their stuff. The argument is that people are so stupid and driven by their barbaric instincts instead of their rational brains, that they fail to realize that by urging "OMG PLZ LET ME RAPES HER!!!!" they're losing one more quest.
If someone asks for CONTENT X in a CONTENT A game, then they'll get it because they're stupid enough to fail to relalize for every X, you lose an A.
Eventually there is a breaking point where CONTENT becomes so filled with X that people begin to realize how much A they lost. That's when the CONTENT gets saved and you see a lot if not ALL content X disappear to make room for tons of quality content A.
Keep the genre pure, and people can always get what they want. I'm not saying don't make sexy characters in video games. (That's another argument entirely). I'm saying don't add in needless content that is poor compared to other genres (If you want sex, go look at pornography. It'll be 1000x better than Dragon Age sex scenes) that it TAKES AWAY from the REAL content of slaying dragons.
There is a limit to the amount of content a game can produce, often based by the variables of TIME and MONEY.
If you think "breaking down genre walls" and merging together games to include EVERYTHING, you'll only end up with a really shitty video game that can't do ANYTHING right because the focus is so spread out.
It's a very simple explanation. What I am trying to say is this:
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
Yes very true. I live in Sweden, which has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe, and at the same time boast about how good their sexual education is and how you at an early age are shown how to use a condom.
Clearly sexual education is not a way to stop teenagers from engaging in unprotected sex. If nothing it encourages people to have more sex, which may or may not be protected.
Depicting sex in any media encourages people to have sex. Why? Because it causes sexual arrousal and if you are sexually arroused then you, shockingly, want to have sex.
That is why parents are more worried about sex in media than violence. Most, normal, people do not engage in violent acts but most, normal, people do have sex.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
Yes very true. I live in Sweden, which has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe, and at the same time boast about how good their sexual education is and how you at an early age are shown how to use a condom.
Clearly sexual education is not a way to stop teenagers from engaging in unprotected sex. If nothing it encourages people to have more sex, which may or may not be protected.
Depicting sex in any media encourages people to have sex. Why? Because it causes sexual arrousal and if you are sexually arroused then you, shockingly, want to have sex.
That is why parents are more worried about sex in media than violence. Most, normal, people do not engage in violent acts but most, normal, people do have sex.
Today a brilliant light must have hit MMORPG.com forums, because over and over I'm seeing tons of well-written, logical, reasonable posts which argue using logic/reason instead of "OMGZ STFU NEWBZ0RZ!!!11111 YOU WATCH TOO MUCH CNN!!!!!!1111"
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
It is not. Sweden is a perfect example of a society that has a very developed sex education system yet has the highest rate of teen abortions in Europe.
Sex education encourages people to have sex, period. That it is safe sex it encourages, obviously, does not seem to matter.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
You can find any article to support what you want to say, regardless of what you're saying.
The fact and reality remain, it is not a crock of BS at all. If you want to argue, you will need to provide better sources.
Reality of Sweden (Real Life Events) > Random Internet Article spouting unfounded or biased claims.
Three credible sources vs no sources?Guess source evaluation is not your strong part.
And Sweden has a very low teenage pregnancy rate, about 1/3 of the UK and 1/5 of the US. At least make an effort to find stats before spewing nonsensical garbage.
DA:O The opportunity to virtually get laid in a game hehe. However, sexual content, all censored, because we are not talking about any "Hentai game" or something, touched on some aspects "taboo" in society (any country that has a faction of conservative vision will not find the game funny). As part of the gay aspect, only if you choose in the game line, it gives an opportunity to miss out the gay choice, despite having given me the feeling of some parts the devs trying to foist a choice on the gay side, most annoying was the elvish assassin , If you decide to recruit him, but u can escape if u choose .
The game also creates a little controversy about the prostitution, the oldest profession in the world, some say ... summarizing the game really has sexual content and hurt some conservative sensibilities.
But the truth, like any product, even in sexshops , just buy who wanna. In my country and mostly of others, the game is labeled for +18 years old, so warns that have content that should only be manuzes by personnel vaccinated about that .
I think that the aim of pornography is to arouse you. Yet that was obviously not the aim of the dragon age developers when they implemented that scene. They want to tell a story, and they thought that if a bunch of mostly young and healthy adventurers spend the nights together, that most likely some of the might have sex. And then they tell that story in the game. And since you are an adult when you play that game, you have probably seen your share of naked bodies already in real life.
The scenes of the game are humorous and entertaining. Read the last word? Entertaining. Entertainment is what I'd buy a computer game for.
People should spend their energy in more useful ways than complain about some characters kissing and hugging in an 18+ video game.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
You can find any article to support what you want to say, regardless of what you're saying.
The fact and reality remain, it is not a crock of BS at all. If you want to argue, you will need to provide better sources.
Reality of Sweden (Real Life Events) > Random Internet Article spouting unfounded or biased claims.
Three credible sources vs no sources?Guess source evaluation is not your strong part.
And Sweden has a very low teenage pregnancy rate, about 1/3 of the UK and 1/5 of the US. At least make an effort to find stats before spewing nonsensical garbage.
That article is from 2002 and I misstakedly said teenage pregnancy, it is teenage abortion rate and not pregnancy rate. Abortion is much more related to unwanted pregnancy (duh) than just pregnancy (which could be intentional).
And I live in Sweden. I have grown up in their system, gone through their education system, been directly involved in how sex and teenagers works and watched their own national news agency say that during 2007 Sweden had the highest rate of teenage abortions in Europe.
I will try and dig up an article which that news was based one.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
It is not. Sweden is a perfect example of a society that has a very developed sex education system yet has the highest rate of teen abortions in Europe.
Sex education encourages people to have sex, period. That it is safe sex it encourages, obviously, does not seem to matter.
This is probably because since it encourages teens to have sex, they will have more sex (of course). And since condoms require you to
1) Have one
2) Use it
it fails BECAUSE the teens are having CONSISTENT sex, and thus will, as all teens do, make an incredibly idiotic assumption that they are invincible/immune "It won't happen to me!" and so when they encounter a situation where they want to have sex (as usual) but don't possess or desire a condom, they will do it anyway.
How many teenagers will have everything they need, and STILL make a stupid choice because they're lazy, selfish, and idiotic? All of them! Even educated married couples can be foolish enough to think "Ah, we wont get pregnant THIS TIME, it's okay to go ahead." and end up being pregnant.
In fact, I know a lot of married couples who never planned to have kids, who ended up getting pregnant because they had the "It won't happen to me!" invincible mindset. And these were adults, not teenagers who have 100% less brain power, self control, education, etc.
Anyway RPG's were at first just a simple dungeons where you leveled up and killed monsters in a dungeon.
Then they added maps! Then they added quests Then they added outdoor areas Then they added dialogue lines Then they added multiple ways to conquer the game Then they added multiple choices, moral dilemmas Then they added relationships between characters and NPCs Now then are adding sexual scenes.
It's a natural progression what the market is asking. In cinema, you probably not bitch on new James Bond movie because there's sex scenes eventho you wanted to see an action. Barriers between genres are being torn down.
People don't want to see pornography and sex scenes in their content as much as they want to see [insert theme of content].
The argument isn't that people don't want sex in their stuff. The argument is that people are so stupid and driven by their barbaric instincts instead of their rational brains, that they fail to realize that by urging "OMG PLZ LET ME RAPES HER!!!!" they're losing one more quest.
If someone asks for CONTENT X in a CONTENT A game, then they'll get it because they're stupid enough to fail to relalize for every X, you lose an A.
Eventually there is a breaking point where CONTENT becomes so filled with X that people begin to realize how much A they lost. That's when the CONTENT gets saved and you see a lot if not ALL content X disappear to make room for tons of quality content A.
It's a very simple explanation. What I am trying to say is this:
I.E. for every amount of QUANTITY you add,
you lose that much QUALITY.
I wonder, why are you not picking up the maps -> they were primarily a matter of RTS games at that time. Blending and "stealing" that feature from RTS, it was integrated into RPGs.
I wonder why you don't pick up dialogue lines - which were always a domain of adventure games.
I wonder why you don't pick up 3rd person view? 3rd person view was always in FPS games, we should still have first person view as in the beginnings of RPG.
In a way, I agree that merging genres is not a good thing - I hate all the FPS & RPG mutations (like Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect)... But I am not gonna rave about it. I realize, that's what market asks. You can't expect from a mainstread company to produce something which is not the most mainstream and most catchy. You can't stop the progress. If you want to play independent games, go for indie companies with low budget. If you follow mainstream, then you should just shut up. No offense.
DA:O The opportunity to virtually get laid in a game hehe. However, sexual content, all censored, because we are not talking about any "Hentai game" or something, touched on some aspects "taboo" in society (any country that has a faction of conservative vision will not find the game funny). As part of the gay aspect, only if you choose in the game line, it gives an opportunity to miss out the gay choice, despite having given me the feeling of some parts the devs trying to foist a choice on the gay side, most annoying was the elvish assassin , If you decide to recruit him, but u can escape if u choose . The game also creates a little controversy about the prostitution, the oldest profession in the world, some say ... summarizing the game really has sexual content and hurt some conservative sensibilities. But the truth, like any product, even in sexshops , just buy who wanna. In my country and mostly of others, the game is labeled for +18 years old, so warns that have content that should only be manuzes by personnel vaccinated about that .
Wouldn't the oldest profession in the world be Hunter or Wood-Chopper?
Or some form of getting food.
Prostitution also requires a women to SELL her body for goods/services. I don't even think economy was invented back then. Having sex doesn't make a women a prostitute either.
So I'm sticking with the oldest profession being Hunter-Gatherer, or some form of Leader or Tool-maker.
I will never understand this idea that it is more socially acceptable to murder a person than to have sex with one. I see it again and again. It confuses me every time.
What kind of nonsensical statement is this?
Go and kill someone and you will either end up in jail or receive the death sentance.
Have sex and.... at worst people will think you are a slut.
Oh yeah, I see how that is so much less acceptable.
Really? As I said, killing is only murder if its not sanctioned by the state.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
You can find any article to support what you want to say, regardless of what you're saying.
The fact and reality remain, it is not a crock of BS at all. If you want to argue, you will need to provide better sources.
Reality of Sweden (Real Life Events) > Random Internet Article spouting unfounded or biased claims.
Three credible sources vs no sources?Guess source evaluation is not your strong part.
And Sweden has a very low teenage pregnancy rate, about 1/3 of the UK and 1/5 of the US. At least make an effort to find stats before spewing nonsensical garbage.
The only credible source is that of reality.
It's not "three credible sources vs no sources" it's "no sources vs no sources."
Unless you truly believe that "If you read it on the internet, it has to be true!"
Or the more commonly believed "If someone says it and says "A scientist said so!" then it MUST be true!"
I don't find any random internet article a credible source. I agree with you that education is important, but I disagree that this way is the best way to handle the problem.
For example, you could use a shoe to hammer nails into boards to make a boat.
Of course... you could use a hammer too. Why say "The shoe is fine." when a hammer is so much more effective- where the problem is the boat is sinking?
I will never understand this idea that it is more socially acceptable to murder a person than to have sex with one. I see it again and again. It confuses me every time.
What kind of nonsensical statement is this?
Go and kill someone and you will either end up in jail or receive the death sentance.
Have sex and.... at worst people will think you are a slut.
Oh yeah, I see how that is so much less acceptable.
Really? As I said, killing is only murder if its not sanctioned by the state.
What if you killed someone because they refused to commit suicide after you demanded them to?
Oh, and the person helped feed starving children and their only possession was a piece of tape, which you demanded also.
Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
It is not. Sweden is a perfect example of a society that has a very developed sex education system yet has the highest rate of teen abortions in Europe.
Sex education encourages people to have sex, period. That it is safe sex it encourages, obviously, does not seem to matter.
This is probably because since it encourages teens to have sex, they will have more sex (of course). And since condoms require you to
1) Have one
2) Use it
it fails BECAUSE the teens are having CONSISTENT sex, and thus will, as all teens do, make an incredibly idiotic assumption that they are invincible/immune "It won't happen to me!" and so when they encounter a situation where they want to have sex (as usual) but don't possess or desire a condom, they will do it anyway.
How many teenagers will have everything they need, and STILL make a stupid choice because they're lazy, selfish, and idiotic? All of them! Even educated married couples can be foolish enough to think "Ah, we wont get pregnant THIS TIME, it's okay to go ahead." and end up being pregnant.
In fact, I know a lot of married couples who never planned to have kids, who ended up getting pregnant because they had the "It won't happen to me!" invincible mindset. And these were adults, not teenagers who have 100% less brain power, self control, education, etc.
Yep very true. I remember when I was in school and they had those sex ed hours. Noone of us discussed how we would now use condoms but rather who had sex with who and who is a virgin or not.
People seem to think that just because you show a video encouraging people to have sex with condoms then teenagers will see that, instead of them seeing people having sex (and wanting to have it as well).
Also the media has much more influence than school in this matter. Everything from Britney Spears, to games like Dragons Origins to hardcore gang bang porn is readily available for all kids. They watch it, and are told that sex is natural and then they want to do it. Be it oral sex when they are 12 years old or threesomes when they are 16.
This in turn leads to:
Unwanted pregnancies
Sexually transmitted diseases
Sexual assault
Disfunctional sexual relationships. There has been some cases where young males have watched so much porn than they are no longer aroused by "normal" sex with one person.
Same is NOT seen with violence. There still has not been credible studies that shows that violent media encourages an otherwise normal people to engage into violent acts. The reason is that most normal people are not inclined to do that and a violent video wont make them be. However almost all human beings are enclined to have sex and are thus much more influenced by media.
I will never understand this idea that it is more socially acceptable to murder a person than to have sex with one. I see it again and again. It confuses me every time.
What kind of nonsensical statement is this?
Go and kill someone and you will either end up in jail or receive the death sentance.
Have sex and.... at worst people will think you are a slut.
Oh yeah, I see how that is so much less acceptable.
Really? As I said, killing is only murder if its not sanctioned by the state.
Dont get caught up in semantics. By killing I mean murder, and not killing another soldier in a war.
That is the only state sanctioned killing that exists in most modern, democratic countries (US not being one of them).
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You've got it really mixed up in your head.
Social conservatism & liberalism has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with economical conservatism & liberalism.
In fact, most of the political parties in the world that are right wing are social liberals. It is left-wing democratic socialists who actually WANT TO IMPOSE as many social rules and policies as possible.
Really? So all these right wing republican's in the U.S who are anti-gay and dont want to 'god forbid!' teach the youth how to use a condom.. arent trying to impose thier social rules AND religious views on the public? What the hell ever happened to separation of church and state.
Right Wing republicans aren't religious at all. They aren't trying to impose their social rules or religious views on the pubilc.
Right wing republicans care about only one thing: Their corporate masters.
By pretending to care about these things, and by pretending to go against them, they gain the vote of the South. The south is no more religious than the rest of the nation, they just have more churches. Because it's not about religion in the south, it's about culture. People dont' care about their religion, they care about their roots, their culture, their beliefs.
It's all pretend manipulation. The republicans have had full control of the government before, but never did anything about abortion. Yet they constantly parade to be anti-abortion. Well, they are, and they DO vote against abortion law. But that's irrelevant because abortion was settled bigtime in Roe vs Wade. They have never done anything to overturn Roe vs Wade, the pillar of abortion law. Why? Because that would be stupid! If they fix abortion by destroying Roe vs Wade and overturning it to give their constituents what they want, they will LOSE ALL THOSE VOTES! because without abortion as a hot topic, all the christian right votes will start to split. By never doing ANYTHING to actually be anti-abortion other than insignificant things to save face, they retain all those votes because the south is so ignorant they don't realize the republicans actually DONT care and actually ARENT anti-abortion. They also fail to realize that the democrats, who help the poor, stop more abortion than the republicans EVER have. The #1 reason for abortions are the lack of money. Help the poor financially, and you stop a multitude of abortions. The republicans haven't stopped any, they just pretend to.
That is just ONE example of many that republicans do to manipulate the ignorant to retain votes. It's NOT a coincidence that the vast majority of republicans are rather rich or live in high poverty (ignorant) southern regions. This isn't saying that republicans are ignorant, but that they have been manipulated and because of their past and present ignorance they fail to realize they're voting for the wrong party. It only takes ONE generation of ignorant people to instill in their future generations a stern republican idealogy to always vote conservative. Afterall, people tend to vote exactly as their parents did.
And the South is ignorant. So Corporations buy out the Republican party, which in turn misinforms the South manipulating their culture to convince them of whatever they want to keep them from voting how they'd want to vote (democrat) and thus retain power, thus retaining money (corporate payment).
It has NOTHING to do with religion or social rules. It's all based on social manipulation to insure votes, which insure corporate payouts.
Angelof, you really need to stop watching Alex Jones. He's amusing at best and his theory - holywood is controlled by arabs" is on the edge of insanity.
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Now Social Scientists do not care for condoms begin taught in school. It has proven in studies to be an ineffective means to teach birth control. In areas where free condoms and condom education have been taught there has been large increases in teen pregnancy over areas where it is not. This line of education as a means of teen birth control is ineffective. That is one reason new programs for condoms in schools have been difficult to get.
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
It doesn't take a sociologist to see that by giving kids condoms, you're ENCOURAGING sex, which will increase sexual encounters, which will increase the problem.
It also doesn't take a sociologist to see that when there is a problem, ignoring it or telling kids to stop (abstinence programs) won't work either.
Since when did "Don't do it, it's stupid and you might die!!!" EVER stop a teenager? LoL...
I honestly don't know the solution, but disease control and teen pregnancy is always a problem, and a big one at that. If we don't do something to lower the rates, then our future generation will be emotionally disturbed morons (teen parents are less adequate in every way to raise a child) and our present generation will be dead by AIDS, lol.
That's taking it to the extreme, but if anyone wants to know WHY people are so messed up, they need only look at the person's parents, which have a high chance that they were uneducated and incapable of providing for their children healthy parenting and sufficient funding. Often because they themselves had so many problems, bc THEIR parents treated them like crap. It almost always ends up starting with a bad parent who was bad because they lacked proper education. Education prevents stupid decisions, abusive mentality (drugs, physical punishment, hatred) and everyone knows a more educated parent means a better parent.
As Freud might say, "So... tell me about your mother..."
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
This is a jabber sorry to say. We all know democracy and politics are about being the biggest populist and having the best team of social manipulators. Not just republicans or liberals, or communists or whoever.
Anyway
RPG's were at first just a simple dungeons where you leveled up and killed monsters in a dungeon.
It's a natural progression what the market is asking.
In cinema, you probably not bitch on new James Bond movie because there's sex scenes eventho you wanted to see an action. Barriers between genres are being torn down.
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What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
You complained about it focusing on gore. Do you think a sharpened sword wont cause the spill and spray of blood?
There was also NO nudity, nothing but spooning. Romance lines are also a feature, quest and always directed you torwards slaying somebody for your chosen romance partner. So what did BioWare miss out on?
I have no idea who that is.
My opinions and facts are just that, opinions or facts.
My opinion is that video games should be kept "clean" so the developers FOCUS on making the GAMEPLAY better, instead of wasting time coding and adding in sexual or violent graphics. If the game is Left4Dead, a zombie game based on the horror genre than DO focus on gore. That's part of the theme.
But focus on slaying dragons in a dragon slaying rpg. Don't add in sex and nudity. We can get that in higher quality for free anywhere else. It's my opinion that for every wasted naked pixel and sexual program code, that's one less quest, one less monster, one less feature.
And the facts? Republicans are bought out by their corporate masters, and the majority of their votes are based on manipulation of the ignorant south. It's NOT a coincidence that the South is the primary source of republican power.
This is a jabber sorry to say. We all know democracy and politics are about being the biggest populist and having the best team of social manipulators. Not just republicans or liberals, or communists or whoever.
Anyway
RPG's were at first just a simple dungeons where you leveled up and killed monsters in a dungeon.
It's a natural progression what the market is asking.
In cinema, you probably not bitch on new James Bond movie because there's sex scenes eventho you wanted to see an action. Barriers between genres are being torn down.
People don't want to see pornography and sex scenes in their content as much as they want to see [insert theme of content].
The argument isn't that people don't want sex in their stuff. The argument is that people are so stupid and driven by their barbaric instincts instead of their rational brains, that they fail to realize that by urging "OMG PLZ LET ME RAPES HER!!!!" they're losing one more quest.
If someone asks for CONTENT X in a CONTENT A game, then they'll get it because they're stupid enough to fail to relalize for every X, you lose an A.
Eventually there is a breaking point where CONTENT becomes so filled with X that people begin to realize how much A they lost. That's when the CONTENT gets saved and you see a lot if not ALL content X disappear to make room for tons of quality content A.
Keep the genre pure, and people can always get what they want. I'm not saying don't make sexy characters in video games. (That's another argument entirely). I'm saying don't add in needless content that is poor compared to other genres (If you want sex, go look at pornography. It'll be 1000x better than Dragon Age sex scenes) that it TAKES AWAY from the REAL content of slaying dragons.
There is a limit to the amount of content a game can produce, often based by the variables of TIME and MONEY.
If you think "breaking down genre walls" and merging together games to include EVERYTHING, you'll only end up with a really shitty video game that can't do ANYTHING right because the focus is so spread out.
It's a very simple explanation. What I am trying to say is this:
I.E. for every amount of QUANTITY you add,
you lose that much QUALITY.
Yes very true. I live in Sweden, which has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe, and at the same time boast about how good their sexual education is and how you at an early age are shown how to use a condom.
Clearly sexual education is not a way to stop teenagers from engaging in unprotected sex. If nothing it encourages people to have more sex, which may or may not be protected.
Depicting sex in any media encourages people to have sex. Why? Because it causes sexual arrousal and if you are sexually arroused then you, shockingly, want to have sex.
That is why parents are more worried about sex in media than violence. Most, normal, people do not engage in violent acts but most, normal, people do have sex.
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Yes very true. I live in Sweden, which has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe, and at the same time boast about how good their sexual education is and how you at an early age are shown how to use a condom.
Clearly sexual education is not a way to stop teenagers from engaging in unprotected sex. If nothing it encourages people to have more sex, which may or may not be protected.
Depicting sex in any media encourages people to have sex. Why? Because it causes sexual arrousal and if you are sexually arroused then you, shockingly, want to have sex.
That is why parents are more worried about sex in media than violence. Most, normal, people do not engage in violent acts but most, normal, people do have sex.
Today a brilliant light must have hit MMORPG.com forums, because over and over I'm seeing tons of well-written, logical, reasonable posts which argue using logic/reason instead of "OMGZ STFU NEWBZ0RZ!!!11111 YOU WATCH TOO MUCH CNN!!!!!!1111"
What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
It is not. Sweden is a perfect example of a society that has a very developed sex education system yet has the highest rate of teen abortions in Europe.
Sex education encourages people to have sex, period. That it is safe sex it encourages, obviously, does not seem to matter.
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What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
Three random internet articles prove nothing.
You can find any article to support what you want to say, regardless of what you're saying.
The fact and reality remain, it is not a crock of BS at all. If you want to argue, you will need to provide better sources.
Reality of Sweden (Real Life Events) > Random Internet Article spouting unfounded or biased claims.
What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
Three random internet articles prove nothing.
You can find any article to support what you want to say, regardless of what you're saying.
The fact and reality remain, it is not a crock of BS at all. If you want to argue, you will need to provide better sources.
Reality of Sweden (Real Life Events) > Random Internet Article spouting unfounded or biased claims.
Three credible sources vs no sources?Guess source evaluation is not your strong part.
And Sweden has a very low teenage pregnancy rate, about 1/3 of the UK and 1/5 of the US. At least make an effort to find stats before spewing nonsensical garbage.
The game also creates a little controversy about the prostitution, the oldest profession in the world, some say
... summarizing the game really has sexual content and hurt some conservative sensibilities.
But the truth, like any product, even in sexshops , just buy who wanna. In my country and mostly of others, the game is labeled for +18 years old, so warns that have content
that should only be manuzes by personnel vaccinated about that .
I think that the aim of pornography is to arouse you. Yet that was obviously not the aim of the dragon age developers when they implemented that scene. They want to tell a story, and they thought that if a bunch of mostly young and healthy adventurers spend the nights together, that most likely some of the might have sex. And then they tell that story in the game. And since you are an adult when you play that game, you have probably seen your share of naked bodies already in real life.
The scenes of the game are humorous and entertaining. Read the last word? Entertaining. Entertainment is what I'd buy a computer game for.
People should spend their energy in more useful ways than complain about some characters kissing and hugging in an 18+ video game.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
Three random internet articles prove nothing.
You can find any article to support what you want to say, regardless of what you're saying.
The fact and reality remain, it is not a crock of BS at all. If you want to argue, you will need to provide better sources.
Reality of Sweden (Real Life Events) > Random Internet Article spouting unfounded or biased claims.
Three credible sources vs no sources?Guess source evaluation is not your strong part.
And Sweden has a very low teenage pregnancy rate, about 1/3 of the UK and 1/5 of the US. At least make an effort to find stats before spewing nonsensical garbage.
That article is from 2002 and I misstakedly said teenage pregnancy, it is teenage abortion rate and not pregnancy rate. Abortion is much more related to unwanted pregnancy (duh) than just pregnancy (which could be intentional).
And I live in Sweden. I have grown up in their system, gone through their education system, been directly involved in how sex and teenagers works and watched their own national news agency say that during 2007 Sweden had the highest rate of teenage abortions in Europe.
I will try and dig up an article which that news was based one.
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What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
It is not. Sweden is a perfect example of a society that has a very developed sex education system yet has the highest rate of teen abortions in Europe.
Sex education encourages people to have sex, period. That it is safe sex it encourages, obviously, does not seem to matter.
This is probably because since it encourages teens to have sex, they will have more sex (of course). And since condoms require you to
1) Have one
2) Use it
it fails BECAUSE the teens are having CONSISTENT sex, and thus will, as all teens do, make an incredibly idiotic assumption that they are invincible/immune "It won't happen to me!" and so when they encounter a situation where they want to have sex (as usual) but don't possess or desire a condom, they will do it anyway.
How many teenagers will have everything they need, and STILL make a stupid choice because they're lazy, selfish, and idiotic? All of them! Even educated married couples can be foolish enough to think "Ah, we wont get pregnant THIS TIME, it's okay to go ahead." and end up being pregnant.
In fact, I know a lot of married couples who never planned to have kids, who ended up getting pregnant because they had the "It won't happen to me!" invincible mindset. And these were adults, not teenagers who have 100% less brain power, self control, education, etc.
People don't want to see pornography and sex scenes in their content as much as they want to see [insert theme of content].
The argument isn't that people don't want sex in their stuff. The argument is that people are so stupid and driven by their barbaric instincts instead of their rational brains, that they fail to realize that by urging "OMG PLZ LET ME RAPES HER!!!!" they're losing one more quest.
If someone asks for CONTENT X in a CONTENT A game, then they'll get it because they're stupid enough to fail to relalize for every X, you lose an A.
Eventually there is a breaking point where CONTENT becomes so filled with X that people begin to realize how much A they lost. That's when the CONTENT gets saved and you see a lot if not ALL content X disappear to make room for tons of quality content A.
It's a very simple explanation. What I am trying to say is this:
I.E. for every amount of QUANTITY you add,
you lose that much QUALITY.
I wonder, why are you not picking up the maps -> they were primarily a matter of RTS games at that time. Blending and "stealing" that feature from RTS, it was integrated into RPGs.
I wonder why you don't pick up dialogue lines - which were always a domain of adventure games.
I wonder why you don't pick up 3rd person view? 3rd person view was always in FPS games, we should still have first person view as in the beginnings of RPG.
In a way, I agree that merging genres is not a good thing - I hate all the FPS & RPG mutations (like Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect)... But I am not gonna rave about it. I realize, that's what market asks. You can't expect from a mainstread company to produce something which is not the most mainstream and most catchy. You can't stop the progress. If you want to play independent games, go for indie companies with low budget. If you follow mainstream, then you should just shut up. No offense.
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Wouldn't the oldest profession in the world be Hunter or Wood-Chopper?
Or some form of getting food.
Prostitution also requires a women to SELL her body for goods/services. I don't even think economy was invented back then. Having sex doesn't make a women a prostitute either.
So I'm sticking with the oldest profession being Hunter-Gatherer, or some form of Leader or Tool-maker.
What kind of nonsensical statement is this?
Go and kill someone and you will either end up in jail or receive the death sentance.
Have sex and.... at worst people will think you are a slut.
Oh yeah, I see how that is so much less acceptable.
Really? As I said, killing is only murder if its not sanctioned by the state.
What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
Three random internet articles prove nothing.
You can find any article to support what you want to say, regardless of what you're saying.
The fact and reality remain, it is not a crock of BS at all. If you want to argue, you will need to provide better sources.
Reality of Sweden (Real Life Events) > Random Internet Article spouting unfounded or biased claims.
Three credible sources vs no sources?Guess source evaluation is not your strong part.
And Sweden has a very low teenage pregnancy rate, about 1/3 of the UK and 1/5 of the US. At least make an effort to find stats before spewing nonsensical garbage.
The only credible source is that of reality.
It's not "three credible sources vs no sources" it's "no sources vs no sources."
Unless you truly believe that "If you read it on the internet, it has to be true!"
Or the more commonly believed "If someone says it and says "A scientist said so!" then it MUST be true!"
I don't find any random internet article a credible source. I agree with you that education is important, but I disagree that this way is the best way to handle the problem.
For example, you could use a shoe to hammer nails into boards to make a boat.
Of course... you could use a hammer too. Why say "The shoe is fine." when a hammer is so much more effective- where the problem is the boat is sinking?
What kind of nonsensical statement is this?
Go and kill someone and you will either end up in jail or receive the death sentance.
Have sex and.... at worst people will think you are a slut.
Oh yeah, I see how that is so much less acceptable.
Really? As I said, killing is only murder if its not sanctioned by the state.
What if you killed someone because they refused to commit suicide after you demanded them to?
Oh, and the person helped feed starving children and their only possession was a piece of tape, which you demanded also.
LoL, just giving you a hard time :P lol
What a crock of bullshit. It is just plain wrong.
It is not. Sweden is a perfect example of a society that has a very developed sex education system yet has the highest rate of teen abortions in Europe.
Sex education encourages people to have sex, period. That it is safe sex it encourages, obviously, does not seem to matter.
This is probably because since it encourages teens to have sex, they will have more sex (of course). And since condoms require you to
1) Have one
2) Use it
it fails BECAUSE the teens are having CONSISTENT sex, and thus will, as all teens do, make an incredibly idiotic assumption that they are invincible/immune "It won't happen to me!" and so when they encounter a situation where they want to have sex (as usual) but don't possess or desire a condom, they will do it anyway.
How many teenagers will have everything they need, and STILL make a stupid choice because they're lazy, selfish, and idiotic? All of them! Even educated married couples can be foolish enough to think "Ah, we wont get pregnant THIS TIME, it's okay to go ahead." and end up being pregnant.
In fact, I know a lot of married couples who never planned to have kids, who ended up getting pregnant because they had the "It won't happen to me!" invincible mindset. And these were adults, not teenagers who have 100% less brain power, self control, education, etc.
Yep very true. I remember when I was in school and they had those sex ed hours. Noone of us discussed how we would now use condoms but rather who had sex with who and who is a virgin or not.
People seem to think that just because you show a video encouraging people to have sex with condoms then teenagers will see that, instead of them seeing people having sex (and wanting to have it as well).
Also the media has much more influence than school in this matter. Everything from Britney Spears, to games like Dragons Origins to hardcore gang bang porn is readily available for all kids. They watch it, and are told that sex is natural and then they want to do it. Be it oral sex when they are 12 years old or threesomes when they are 16.
This in turn leads to:
Same is NOT seen with violence. There still has not been credible studies that shows that violent media encourages an otherwise normal people to engage into violent acts. The reason is that most normal people are not inclined to do that and a violent video wont make them be. However almost all human beings are enclined to have sex and are thus much more influenced by media.
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What kind of nonsensical statement is this?
Go and kill someone and you will either end up in jail or receive the death sentance.
Have sex and.... at worst people will think you are a slut.
Oh yeah, I see how that is so much less acceptable.
Really? As I said, killing is only murder if its not sanctioned by the state.
Dont get caught up in semantics. By killing I mean murder, and not killing another soldier in a war.
That is the only state sanctioned killing that exists in most modern, democratic countries (US not being one of them).
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