I was kidding with what I said but on that note, any legitimately female players I have met are great fun with no exceptions so far. A few have even been...er...somewhat good looking.
Hey Paul - I figured as much with your comment. I was simply just saying - they are out there but they are usually hard to find. (Real Female players) The male to female ratio is fairly high and the average female player is older then the average male player - again, nothing wrong with that.
I discovered MMOs when I was really young so I can't really recall the reason I played then, mostly I think it was because I could actually progress in a game where things 'mattered' and didn't just have an end.
Now... I play alot of single players (not that I didn't before) and find it to be more comforting to actually enjoy the story/dialogue and explore the lore/story of what I am playing, I didn't use to do this mostly because I couldn't really read English in a swift manner and story meant crap to me.
I play MMOs today to discover something that I haven't before in MMOs, I want to see what I have missed... Thus I try new things like RP, leveling slowly, exploring, trying out sandbox... But I cannot give a definite reason.
I play MMOs because it gives me a chance to be a part of something, even if it isnt real important I still feel good when I protect people in game just as I would in RL. MMOs give me a place to escape real life but still make new contacts and friends that I wouldnt have even known exist if it wasnt for the game and gives other people a chance to know me as well. People look down on MMOs because they feel like its taking away from reality but in my view I get the full gravity of reality and the full fun of the game all merged into one. I play MMOs because its an escape from life into life. =D
Pretty much played every MMO that's come out since WoW.../sigh
Its true. I figured I would have run across at least one nutty female by now at least, although I would guess they are a little more laid back in general than some of the testosterone fuelled attention whore males I've come across.
Ahh, keep at it paul - you just MIGHT find what you're looking for. The ratio of men to women is estimated at least 5:1 (that's in general no game specfic - it's probably higher.)
I play MMORPGs for a couple reasons. Firtly, I can't really go around stabbing people in real life now can I? Secondly, who the hell can make it rain meteors with magic when someone pisses you off? Also, I can't really fly a spaceship around and go around the universe in a few hours can I? Idk just my opinion. MMOPRGs are a step away from ordinary life.
I've always enjoyed games and for some reason I don't have many friends that share this hobby.
MMOs allow me to play games and still be moderately sociable at the same time. Because I group quite a lot I often get invites from other players when i log on. It's just fun to play together. I love it when a group of people all with very different roles can come together and do stuff together.
It's great when stuff goes wrong - like multiple adds in PvE or a sudden enemy attact in PvP - and yet the group acts together to sort things quickly knowing the way others in the group will act.
Today when I logged into Aion (rather late) my regular group were already questing so I joined a PuG. It was superb, by chance we had a set of people who all understood their roles and it went really well. We had a great time together even though we are complete strangers to each other in game as wel as in life, and yet we worked so well together to achieve a common goal.
I ended up with 2 more players on my friends list, so next time I log in I might find even more interesting andenjoyable stuff to do.
Other times I just play the game to chill, to wind down and take it easy. Perhaps I'm crafting, or gathering, or just helping some lower level guild members with their quests.
I've always enjoyed games and for some reason I don't have many friends that share this hobby. MMOs allow me to play games and still be moderately sociable at the same time. Because I group quite a lot I often get invites from other players when i log on. It's just fun to play together. I love it when a group of people all with very different roles can come together and do stuff together. It's great when stuff goes wrong - like multiple adds in PvE or a sudden enemy attact in PvP - and yet the group acts together to sort things quickly knowing the way others in the group will act. Today when I logged into Aion (rather late) my regular group were already questing so I joined a PuG. It was superb, by chance we had a set of people who all understood their roles and it went really well. We had a great time together even though we are complete strangers to each other in game as wel as in life, and yet we worked so well together to achieve a common goal. I ended up with 2 more players on my friends list, so next time I log in I might find even more interesting andenjoyable stuff to do.
Other times I just play the game to chill, to wind down and take it easy. Perhaps I'm crafting, or gathering, or just helping some lower level guild members with their quests.
This. I just love the social interaction that MMOs give, partying with people and meeting new acquaintances. And, to me, it's also one of the most addictive parts of it as well.
Well technically you could go around in reality and stab a few people here and there. I simply suspect you might anger some people and land yourself in jail - unless you're good enough to not get caught. As for the raining of meteors - well you could most certainly make an attempt to summon them but you might get some odd looks about you, unless you're involved in an LARP then maybe not. Personally I don't use a spaceship - I just do it. (Yes, I'm idiotic enough to say that.)
What you two agree upon makes perfect sense. Let's face it, part of having fun with any game wither it be single player or multi-player, its always good to talk to someone about the game, or play the game with. That's just part of the fun is to talk about it outside in certain aspects.
MMORPGs offer many ways of owning randoms, in real life the same feeling gets old fast, its no fun owning someone who is not competing, or when the goals/rules are different, wich is often the case.
In MMORPGs I get people to test my superiority consciously.
MMORPGs offer many ways of owning randoms, in real life the same feeling gets old fast, its no fun owning someone who is not competing, or when the goals/rules are different, wich is often the case.
In MMORPGs I get people to test my superiority consciously.
Interesting troll is uninteresting.
Yes, indeed. And last I recalled, don't sports do that as well?
Yes, indeed. And last I recalled, don't sports do that as well?
Any multiplayer game that isn't a co-op is essentially PvP. Some people, like our troll friend here, use video games to try and compensate for a real life deficiency of some kind. Personally, I use multiplayer games as a tool for making friends and self improvement (oh, and for fun of course).
Any multiplayer game that isn't a co-op is essentially PvP. Some people, like our troll friend here, use video games to try and compensate for a real life deficiency of some kind. Personally, I use multiplayer games as a tool for making friends and self improvement (oh, and for fun of course).
Short of purely trolling, browsing this post I felt inclined to comment.
Calling something white because it isn't black is not necessarily correct. Competition manifests itself in many varieties and depths.
Some people use video games to act out who they are in real life. The assumption that it is necessarily a compensation is ... both assumptive and ignorant. To the contrary, those who use this excuse are typically not wolves themselves, but wish they were, so try to devalue a potential wolf by painting them to be wanna-be's. Misery loves company.
Lastly, and your final sentence exposes the concept at play for everyone: fun. Yours might be via self improvement and making friends, someone else's might be to gank and grief as they are misanthropes IRL and that's their way of relating to a game and its mechanics.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc. We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be. So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away. - MMO_Doubter
Just like Pauldriver and I, you all play for the chicks... even the women!
Anybody who says otherwise is just lying to themselves!
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
I play MMORPGs because I enjoy immersion in a FRP environment, and I like the personal interaction of guilds.
Unfortunately the more MMORPGs go mainstream the rewards of playing have been going steadily downhill for me. The "communities" have declined from being a geek nightclub to masses of beggars, whiners, and e-p munchkins.
Ken
www.ActionMMORPG.com One man, a small pile of money, and the screwball idea of a DIY Indie MMORPG? Yep, that's him. ~sigh~
I've been a member of MMORPG.com but the thing is I never bothered to use the forums - why? Because I'm dumb? Haha. So for my first post I decided to opt to have this thread - now I didn't see it in the search but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.The question is simply - Why do you play MMORPGS or simply MMOs in general?
Let me explain - this is very open ended and its bound to have a large amount of responses to it. I'm not choosing a specific game here, its just in general - why do you choose to play the MMOs that you play? What brings you back to them and what keeps your attention?
Like I said, there's hundreds of answers based on this - choose any game or just speak in general.
Here's a couple of examples. Some people play mmorpgs for the community, others for the pvp, others for other things. Personally a lot of the time I would go back to an MMORPG because I met a number of awesome people, and being an Role-player at heart, I loved anything based around Role-playing. To be something else for example but that wouldn't base everything on my gaming experience, of course content was very important to me to but it was the community that brought me back.
Please feel free to answer as you feel, but please - take this thread partial serious. No flaming, everyone is entitled to their own thoughts, opinions, and feelings - we are all individuals and we all have our own taste.
Hi there, Im with you, a total role player. And to be quite honest, most MMO's released recently that have come out are quite frank, horrible. I want to feel like im a Medievil knight (example) who can wander in a free world but using a medieveil knight isn't a great example.... as that once more is a stereotype of teh typical MMO genre which leads me to my next point...
MMO's are in stagnation they are cloning one another and putting some makeup over it and giving it a new face, with possibly 1 or 2 extra gameplay features, but it is nothing major, there was a thread on MMORPG.com all about this It irritates me that the dev's cannot brave the field to re-create the mmo genre.
The cliche mmo basics are:
1. Tab targeting
2. Hit hotkeys for skill X
3. The 'Ok your a sneaky thief, now go out and do the quests everyone else is doing' rather than quests specific to a said class, like sneak into X steal Z without detection.
4. Instances and dungeons
5 .Lack of innovation of gameplay and adventure
6. The 'Get experience and level up, but why?' feature
I'm sure there are others out there desperately hunting and waiting for a fresh genre!!
Let me rephrase my number 6- I feel that the MMORPG, which let me add does stand for
Massivley multiplayer online ROLE PLAYING GAME, obviously the key word being Role Playing, I want to feel like im that character on my screen! I want to be given that feel of open world do what i want and STILL be in character feel, but the mmo's as of late are lacking in the ability for this to be enabled. I guess what im trying to say is, put oblivion style gameplay into an MMO along with some extra cool features.
In conclusion my main feature for making a MMORPG fun, is in general:
Role Playing, Being the character and experiencing 'their' world as you expect.
Hey Paul - I think it's time to stop now. I got your point and you've sorta got to a point of spam - you straying away from the topic here and that's against the rules of the pub.
I started another thread that goes hand in hand with this thread, the other thread is entitled 'A question to MMORPG Players...' (it can be located here: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/263123/A-question-to-MMORPG-Players.html) if you want, please take some time to read and post there as well. This thread is not being killed, I will still be checking regularly and responding.
No problems. To be honest I was making a half assed attempt to derail the thread out of pure boredom on my end.
On a serious note the overiding reason I have always played MMO's is the social aspect. I appreciate how you can rabbit on for hours to complete strangers who you may never talk to again.
I think its the relative anonimity to truely speak your mind and/or not have a fear of whether you are saying the right thing or boring the other person.
At the end of the day if you are, just move on to next person. Also I guess everyone roleplays to a certain extent even if they don't realise they are doing it. Very few people if you had to meet them IRL would be the same persona you knew online.
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I was kidding with what I said but on that note, any legitimately female players I have met are great fun with no exceptions so far. A few have even been...er...somewhat good looking.
Always ends up like this though......
Jam is sticky.
@pauldriver
Hey Paul - I figured as much with your comment. I was simply just saying - they are out there but they are usually hard to find. (Real Female players) The male to female ratio is fairly high and the average female player is older then the average male player - again, nothing wrong with that.
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@All Readers
Any more reasons to play?
Everyone's opinion / two cents counts... regardless of what it is.
I discovered MMOs when I was really young so I can't really recall the reason I played then, mostly I think it was because I could actually progress in a game where things 'mattered' and didn't just have an end.
Now... I play alot of single players (not that I didn't before) and find it to be more comforting to actually enjoy the story/dialogue and explore the lore/story of what I am playing, I didn't use to do this mostly because I couldn't really read English in a swift manner and story meant crap to me.
I play MMOs today to discover something that I haven't before in MMOs, I want to see what I have missed... Thus I try new things like RP, leveling slowly, exploring, trying out sandbox... But I cannot give a definite reason.
I play MMOs because it gives me a chance to be a part of something, even if it isnt real important I still feel good when I protect people in game just as I would in RL. MMOs give me a place to escape real life but still make new contacts and friends that I wouldnt have even known exist if it wasnt for the game and gives other people a chance to know me as well. People look down on MMOs because they feel like its taking away from reality but in my view I get the full gravity of reality and the full fun of the game all merged into one. I play MMOs because its an escape from life into life. =D
Its true. I figured I would have run across at least one nutty female by now at least, although I would guess they are a little more laid back in general than some of the testosterone fuelled attention whore males I've come across.
Jam is sticky.
Thanks everyone. Again, I enjoy reading everyone's insight.
@pauldriver
Ahh, keep at it paul - you just MIGHT find what you're looking for. The ratio of men to women is estimated at least 5:1 (that's in general no game specfic - it's probably higher.)
PvP, leveling, content, exploring, contests, and becoming a hero - simple as that
I play MMORPGs for a couple reasons. Firtly, I can't really go around stabbing people in real life now can I? Secondly, who the hell can make it rain meteors with magic when someone pisses you off? Also, I can't really fly a spaceship around and go around the universe in a few hours can I? Idk just my opinion. MMOPRGs are a step away from ordinary life.
I've always enjoyed games and for some reason I don't have many friends that share this hobby.
MMOs allow me to play games and still be moderately sociable at the same time. Because I group quite a lot I often get invites from other players when i log on. It's just fun to play together. I love it when a group of people all with very different roles can come together and do stuff together.
It's great when stuff goes wrong - like multiple adds in PvE or a sudden enemy attact in PvP - and yet the group acts together to sort things quickly knowing the way others in the group will act.
Today when I logged into Aion (rather late) my regular group were already questing so I joined a PuG. It was superb, by chance we had a set of people who all understood their roles and it went really well. We had a great time together even though we are complete strangers to each other in game as wel as in life, and yet we worked so well together to achieve a common goal.
I ended up with 2 more players on my friends list, so next time I log in I might find even more interesting andenjoyable stuff to do.
Other times I just play the game to chill, to wind down and take it easy. Perhaps I'm crafting, or gathering, or just helping some lower level guild members with their quests.
This. I just love the social interaction that MMOs give, partying with people and meeting new acquaintances. And, to me, it's also one of the most addictive parts of it as well.
TGWTETIPTNMAITC! -Gary Whitta
@MattMassacre
Well technically you could go around in reality and stab a few people here and there. I simply suspect you might anger some people and land yourself in jail - unless you're good enough to not get caught. As for the raining of meteors - well you could most certainly make an attempt to summon them but you might get some odd looks about you, unless you're involved in an LARP then maybe not. Personally I don't use a spaceship - I just do it. (Yes, I'm idiotic enough to say that.)
@Miner-2049er & eldanesh117
What you two agree upon makes perfect sense. Let's face it, part of having fun with any game wither it be single player or multi-player, its always good to talk to someone about the game, or play the game with. That's just part of the fun is to talk about it outside in certain aspects.
Interesting troll is uninteresting.
Interesting troll is uninteresting.
Yes, indeed. And last I recalled, don't sports do that as well?
TGWTETIPTNMAITC! -Gary Whitta
Any multiplayer game that isn't a co-op is essentially PvP. Some people, like our troll friend here, use video games to try and compensate for a real life deficiency of some kind. Personally, I use multiplayer games as a tool for making friends and self improvement (oh, and for fun of course).
Short of purely trolling, browsing this post I felt inclined to comment.
Calling something white because it isn't black is not necessarily correct. Competition manifests itself in many varieties and depths.
Some people use video games to act out who they are in real life. The assumption that it is necessarily a compensation is ... both assumptive and ignorant. To the contrary, those who use this excuse are typically not wolves themselves, but wish they were, so try to devalue a potential wolf by painting them to be wanna-be's. Misery loves company.
Lastly, and your final sentence exposes the concept at play for everyone: fun. Yours might be via self improvement and making friends, someone else's might be to gank and grief as they are misanthropes IRL and that's their way of relating to a game and its mechanics.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc.
We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be.
So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away.
- MMO_Doubter
@All posts after my recent up to this one
Everyone, I couldn't agree more with what has been said. I can especially agree with what you have said pojung.
Just like Pauldriver and I, you all play for the chicks... even the women!
Anybody who says otherwise is just lying to themselves!
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
I play MMORPGs because I enjoy immersion in a FRP environment, and I like the personal interaction of guilds.
Unfortunately the more MMORPGs go mainstream the rewards of playing have been going steadily downhill for me. The "communities" have declined from being a geek nightclub to masses of beggars, whiners, and e-p munchkins.
Ken
www.ActionMMORPG.com
One man, a small pile of money, and the screwball idea of a DIY Indie MMORPG? Yep, that's him. ~sigh~
Anyone ever come across this situation on vent?
Girl: Hey boy
Boy: hey
Boy: Will you shoot my spaceship for a while?
Girl: Ummmm, sure. (targets ship and begins firing)
Boy: Gmmmhhn
Girl: Are you ok?
Boy: nnmmmhhh.....yeah
Girl: I'm going to stop before I blow you up
Boy: JUST KEEP FUCKING SHOOTING BITCH!!!! *FAPFAPFAPFAP*
It didn't happen to me....a, er, friend told me.
EDIT: fapfapfapfapfap
Jam is sticky.
@pauldriver
Hey Paul - I think it's time to stop now. I got your point and you've sorta got to a point of spam - you straying away from the topic here and that's against the rules of the pub.
So please, can you stop now?
ok.
Jam is sticky.
@pauldriver
Thanks pauldriver - it is appreciated.
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I started another thread that goes hand in hand with this thread, the other thread is entitled 'A question to MMORPG Players...' (it can be located here: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/263123/A-question-to-MMORPG-Players.html) if you want, please take some time to read and post there as well. This thread is not being killed, I will still be checking regularly and responding.
No problems. To be honest I was making a half assed attempt to derail the thread out of pure boredom on my end.
On a serious note the overiding reason I have always played MMO's is the social aspect. I appreciate how you can rabbit on for hours to complete strangers who you may never talk to again.
I think its the relative anonimity to truely speak your mind and/or not have a fear of whether you are saying the right thing or boring the other person.
At the end of the day if you are, just move on to next person. Also I guess everyone roleplays to a certain extent even if they don't realise they are doing it. Very few people if you had to meet them IRL would be the same persona you knew online.
Jam is sticky.
MMORPG forums: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
laughed out loud f'ing hard... thanks man
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."