The Truth About Aeria Games and Last Chaos - by a former GameSage

johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie 
lol There was no way I could win the way you set that up. First I was as bad as Aeria if I pretended the corruption didn't exist to keep my GS job and then I'm full of myself when I say I spoke out against it. You were going to flame me regardless of how I answerd the question. lol Interesting logic. Maybe you should consider applying for GM at Aeria. You'd fit in nicely if that's how you discuss things with people.
Yes, the GMs and GSes can be replaced but who replaces them can impact the game and the community. When you take away a GOOD GM that actually makes the game more fn for players and replace him with someone that doesn't do the same thing, it hurts the game and the lose players. The same can be said about losing good GSes like myself, Kay, Agrona, Sabbath, the list goes on and on. And we get replaced by GSes that only care about the free AP and don't actually do things to make he community better and the game more fun. Again, LC loses players.
And you're right that the game can't survive without its players. That is the point I tried to make. Without us there is no game.

Seriously, just stop. This is pointless. Let the community die. If the game is doing that bad, it'll die off, but until you have any proof other than you just being some pissed off ex-"employee" I'd suggest you rest your case. Any dedicated player is going to play despite the GMs and GSs. It has to do with content, not what GM they get to play with. 

Aeria has shown no sign of going down and until it does, I consider you just bitching over your lost monthly AP allowance.

Wizardry

I played all these item mall games,and there is little difference from one to the other,zero content,the only reason to login is to level,waste of time.I knew Aeria was inept right away because after just about every patch there was problems and it was the players that came up with the fixes not Aeria.

Trust me Aeria is not the worst ,Joymax,Frogster[ROM],to name a couple.It seems GM's or any postion above player status is one of a powertrip,certain people feed off this power.

The thing about Item Mall games,is that their goal is to make their money back early on,so they are real nice,then after that they become dicks,I would hope people wake up and NEVER support these garbage games,but there is always people with no money that will continue to join in.Item Mall games are like free trials,they figure to hook you in after a while so you will spend money,more so than any subscription.

YES Aeria games are all about item mall,you DO gain a large advantage using it and is dependant to use the other items like XP pots because around level 40 or so you start to get about .01-.02 xp per kill lmao.

So what i am saying is ,maybe this developer pissed off the OP,don't let that make a difference,DO NOT support ANY of the Item mall games period !.

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abentwookie

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie 
lol There was no way I could win the way you set that up. First I was as bad as Aeria if I pretended the corruption didn't exist to keep my GS job and then I'm full of myself when I say I spoke out against it. You were going to flame me regardless of how I answerd the question. lol Interesting logic. Maybe you should consider applying for GM at Aeria. You'd fit in nicely if that's how you discuss things with people.
Yes, the GMs and GSes can be replaced but who replaces them can impact the game and the community. When you take away a GOOD GM that actually makes the game more fn for players and replace him with someone that doesn't do the same thing, it hurts the game and the lose players. The same can be said about losing good GSes like myself, Kay, Agrona, Sabbath, the list goes on and on. And we get replaced by GSes that only care about the free AP and don't actually do things to make he community better and the game more fun. Again, LC loses players.
And you're right that the game can't survive without its players. That is the point I tried to make. Without us there is no game.

Seriously, just stop. This is pointless. Let the community die. If the game is doing that bad, it'll die off, but until you have any proof other than you just being some pissed off ex-"employee" I'd suggest you rest your case. Any dedicated player is going to play despite the GMs and GSs. It has to do with content, not what GM they get to play with. 

Aeria has shown no sign of going down and until it does, I consider you just bitching over your lost monthly AP allowance.

Content?? lol That's part of the problem right there... You've never even played Last Chaos have you?

Hmm or maybe you have. You almost seem like an Aeria shill to me with the way you're so passionately defending them. lol Supes, is that you? Regardless of who you are or what you're motives are, we won't ever stop getting the truth out so don't waste your time. Banning us didn't work, so telling us to shut up isn't going to do the job either. Sorry to say.

Look at the links Kay posted for some of the proof you just asked for and go check out the facebook group for more logs and screenshots that show the evidence. Its all out there for the public to see now.   And don't bother with the insult about AP allowances. I spent mine on prizes for events, everyone knows that including the GMs that currently hate me. lol

johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie


Content?? lol That's part of the problem right there... You've never even played Last Chaos have you?
Hmm or maybe you have. You almost seem like an Aeria shill to me with the way you're so passionately defending them. lol Supes, is that you? Regardless of who you are or what you're motives are, we won't ever stop getting the truth out so don't waste your time. Banning us didn't work, so telling us to shut up isn't going to do the job either. Sorry to say.
Look at the links Kay posted for some of the proof you just asked for and go check out the facebook group for more logs and screenshots that show the evidence. Its all out there for the public to see now.   And don't bother with the insult about AP allowances. I spent mine on prizes for events, everyone knows that including the GMs that currently hate me. lol

Wow, to even assume I'm associated with Aeria. Did you even read my siggy? xD

No, I'm just one to make sense of things.

You can't pretend to be all generous to an F2P game and then complain when they throw you out of it. It's just a losing fight.

abentwookie

Originally posted by solareus


Ummm this game was f2p, so no one  else is to blame your yourself. No one forces you to play the game, once you learn that you will look back at your post and just say "wow I'm an idiot."

 

So if I go to a store and spend $100 on an item, then I get home and the item immediately stops functioning, I shouldn't be upset about that right? Because no one forced me to buy it? Its not the company's fault for manufacturing a faulty product? Interesting logic yet again and I doubt that most people would agree.

I guess those LC players that spend thousands of dollars shouldn't expect any type of quality service for their money either. After all, no one forced them to spend the money. Hmm I think that type of thinking is why our auto industry is in such sad shape. lol Forget quality and who cares what the customers want, just churn out some junk and tell them we didn't force them to buy it.

johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie

Originally posted by solareus


Ummm this game was f2p, so no one  else is to blame your yourself. No one forces you to play the game, once you learn that you will look back at your post and just say "wow I'm an idiot."

 

So if I go to a store and spend $100 on an item, then I get home and the item immediately stops functioning, I shouldn't be upset about that right? Because no one forced me to buy it? Its not the company's fault for manufacturing a faulty product? Interesting logic yet again and I doubt that most people would agree.

I guess those LC players that spend thousands of dollars shouldn't expect any type of quality service for their money either. After all, no one forced them to spend the money. Hmm I think that type of thinking is why our auto industry is in such sad shape. lol Forget quality and who cares what the customers want, just churn out some junk and tell them we didn't force them to buy it.

He means you could have the product for free if you so wanted. It was their choice to pay.

abentwookie

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie


Content?? lol That's part of the problem right there... You've never even played Last Chaos have you?
Hmm or maybe you have. You almost seem like an Aeria shill to me with the way you're so passionately defending them. lol Supes, is that you? Regardless of who you are or what you're motives are, we won't ever stop getting the truth out so don't waste your time. Banning us didn't work, so telling us to shut up isn't going to do the job either. Sorry to say.
Look at the links Kay posted for some of the proof you just asked for and go check out the facebook group for more logs and screenshots that show the evidence. Its all out there for the public to see now.   And don't bother with the insult about AP allowances. I spent mine on prizes for events, everyone knows that including the GMs that currently hate me. lol

Wow, to even assume I'm associated with Aeria. Did you even read my siggy? xD

No, I'm just one to make sense of things.

You can't pretend to be all generous to an F2P game and then complain when they throw you out of it. It's just a losing fight.

 

Actually, you're not making any sense at all. I hadn't realized I complained about being thrown out of the game and i'm assuming you are refering to when I was banned. In fact, I recall saying that I knew it was going to happen and it was a necessary result of standing up for krash. My complaint isn't about the fact that I was banned personally because I don't care. My complaint is about the corruption (which we have evidence of posted on the group and on here so stop trying to act like its just heresay)  and LIES of AeriaGames and more specifically LC's current product manager, KSilent, and some of its GameMasters.

abentwookie

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie

Originally posted by solareus


Ummm this game was f2p, so no one  else is to blame your yourself. No one forces you to play the game, once you learn that you will look back at your post and just say "wow I'm an idiot."

 

So if I go to a store and spend $100 on an item, then I get home and the item immediately stops functioning, I shouldn't be upset about that right? Because no one forced me to buy it? Its not the company's fault for manufacturing a faulty product? Interesting logic yet again and I doubt that most people would agree.

I guess those LC players that spend thousands of dollars shouldn't expect any type of quality service for their money either. After all, no one forced them to spend the money. Hmm I think that type of thinking is why our auto industry is in such sad shape. lol Forget quality and who cares what the customers want, just churn out some junk and tell them we didn't force them to buy it.

He means you could have the product for free if you so wanted. It was their choice to pay.

 

lol Its only free if you don't plan to actually LEVEL your character. Try leveling without paying and you;ll see what I'm talking about. 

johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie

Originally posted by solareus


Ummm this game was f2p, so no one  else is to blame your yourself. No one forces you to play the game, once you learn that you will look back at your post and just say "wow I'm an idiot."

 

So if I go to a store and spend $100 on an item, then I get home and the item immediately stops functioning, I shouldn't be upset about that right? Because no one forced me to buy it? Its not the company's fault for manufacturing a faulty product? Interesting logic yet again and I doubt that most people would agree.

I guess those LC players that spend thousands of dollars shouldn't expect any type of quality service for their money either. After all, no one forced them to spend the money. Hmm I think that type of thinking is why our auto industry is in such sad shape. lol Forget quality and who cares what the customers want, just churn out some junk and tell them we didn't force them to buy it.

He means you could have the product for free if you so wanted. It was their choice to pay.

 

lol Its only free if you don't plan to actually LEVEL your character. Try leveling without paying and you;ll see what I'm talking about. 

It's perfectly feasible. It's not fun, but it's feasible. This is why you don't play cash shops. Now stop fighting over this. I seriously didn't know more than 1-2k played LC anymore.

TheHatter

I got to the part where you described what a Game Sage was...

 

Why would you work for free?

A "Game Sage" is usually a paid position called a "Game Master" or "GM"

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abentwookie

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by abentwookie

Originally posted by solareus


Ummm this game was f2p, so no one  else is to blame your yourself. No one forces you to play the game, once you learn that you will look back at your post and just say "wow I'm an idiot."

 

So if I go to a store and spend $100 on an item, then I get home and the item immediately stops functioning, I shouldn't be upset about that right? Because no one forced me to buy it? Its not the company's fault for manufacturing a faulty product? Interesting logic yet again and I doubt that most people would agree.

I guess those LC players that spend thousands of dollars shouldn't expect any type of quality service for their money either. After all, no one forced them to spend the money. Hmm I think that type of thinking is why our auto industry is in such sad shape. lol Forget quality and who cares what the customers want, just churn out some junk and tell them we didn't force them to buy it.

He means you could have the product for free if you so wanted. It was their choice to pay.

 

lol Its only free if you don't plan to actually LEVEL your character. Try leveling without paying and you;ll see what I'm talking about. 

It's perfectly feasible. It's not fun, but it's feasible. This is why you don't play cash shops. Now stop fighting over this. I seriously didn't know more than 1-2k played LC anymore.

No actually its not feasible once you get to around 90. Then it becomes insanity to try to level with ap items. Its just not going to happen unless you quit your job/school.

TheHatter

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by TheHatter


I got to the part where you described what a Game Sage was...
 
Why would you work for free?
A "Game Sage" is usually a paid position called a "Game Master" or "GM"

 

she doesn't she works for www.youtube.com/watch gum , i mean virtual items

 

Man, that would have to be a freaking crap ton of virtual items.

Even still, I don't think my landlord takes virtual items for rent.

abentwookie

Originally posted by solareus


 Again, no one makes anyone do anything, and the person that is creating the game is in no obligation to do anything for a bunch of nobodies. Thats the bottom line, get over it and move on.

 

Again your logic fails. Without the free players (nobodies) and people that buy a limited amount of AP, there wouldn't be enough people on the servers. The big AP buys are actually about 20% (and i'm being generous with that estimate) of the population. So yeah they are obligated if they want their game to survive.

hoopty

To the OP

I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty


To the OP
I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

 

Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!

Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view.

johnmatthais

 Seriously OP, stop. 

No one FORCES anyone to play video games.

IT'S JUST A GAME.

NO ONE CARES.

Gah.

You're crying over one of Asia's backwashed pieces of crap.

There are tons of games just like it.

Last I recall, the LC community sucked and I quit because of it.

Move on already. Stop whining about it.

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hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty


To the OP
I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

 

Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!

Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view. See above marked in yellow..

 

If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..

TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty


To the OP
I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

 

Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!

Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view. See above marked in yellow..

 

If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..

So, you're calling her a lady of the night?

 

That's a little harsh.

hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty


To the OP
I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

 

Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!

Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view. See above marked in yellow..

 

If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..

So, you're calling her a lady of the night?

 

Dont you know how to read?

johnmatthais

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty


To the OP
I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

 

Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!

Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view. See above marked in yellow..

 

If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..

So, you're calling her a lady of the night?

 

Dont you know how to read?

 

i got the same thing from it to be honest

/signed Vinter and Hatter

mrroboto40

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty


To the OP
I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

 

Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!

Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view. See above marked in yellow..

 

If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..

So, you're calling her a lady of the night?

 

Dont you know how to read?

 

i got the same thing from it to be honest

/signed Vinter and Hatter

 

Lol, me as well.

TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty




 
If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..

So, you're calling her a lady of the night?

 

Dont you know how to read?

 

Yeah, I do actually.

What kind of women (which you specifically said) make more money than most people in one night?

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