Well I tried the endless WAR trial on the NA website and played an Archmage and it was so much fun I never even bothered which much of the quests.
Just gained a few levels via questing and went into that Tier 1 thing (where factions fight each other) and it was so much fun. So i bought the EU version and hope to play it more often. Just love jumping into the game and healing people being attacked from the oposite faction, hope they don't give up on it.
Welcome, glad you like it and have joined the WAR efforts!
Just have to wait for the game to update and stuff.. But thanks hope to see you in game if possible
those of you making comments that the game has been given up are talking out of your @$$, it has been said on the Q&A of the latest Patch Test Server that Mythic is even working ion changing the city system, including combat and city sieging, they are hard at work with implementing new content like scenarios which a new one will be released this month among MANY other things, just because you don't get what you want yourself doesn't mean the game has been given up, if it had there would be no patch and no news about it, so please give it up and stop flaming the game when you probably haven't even played it in a year, which means you really have no idea what the game is like now, the game has changed a lot.
They are even putting the new Scenario restructuring on back on the drawing board due to players feedback so they can accomodate and make changes more along with what the community wants, that doesn't sound like a game that has been given up on when they are still spending resources on it.
So I suggest educating yourselves and actually reading and researching about the game and what is incoming for it and what has changed in it before making such statements based on old outdated experiences and misinformation.
as for my part, the past 3 weeks have seen MANY old players come back, and MANY new Subs, the past 3 weeks I been in T4 with over 300 Order on Gorfang at the same time around 9 pm EST on 1 map alone taking the zones and in T2 with my newly created Swordmaster I been hitting keeps every day and defending with full Warbands the past 3 days, so if that is a sign the game has been given up on and that the world around me is empty I must be living in a bizaro world.
The game is Most Definitely Not Dead(tm) - but some people seem to get a perverse pleasure out of bashing games they dislike in order to ruin the fun of others.
I think we call them "killjoys" - or at least, we used to.
To everyone that thinks WAR is dead there are five people playing the game and having a blast in the PvP that *only* WAR! offers. And I'm not a paid shill for the company - somebody else make a game that's even 3/4th the fun of WAR in PvP and just as easy to get into casually and I'll love that as well.
Truth be told, the closest thing on the market right now to WAR is Dark Age of Camelot - Mythic's other amazing PvP game that offered me years of fun, entertainment, and companionship.
I agreed, been playing it recently after a few months break (forgot to cancel my subscription).
T1 on European servers very active, a lot of fun to be had; I just keep hoping that they will do an expansion for this game, which I feel would move this game from good to great.
I would not say given up but it is now a maintenance mode game. Mythic was gutted by EA last year and now has a small staff, which means small content updates to the game(see DAOC).
Also take into account EA put up yet another VERY bad quarter, I highly doubt they are going to invest any kind of real money into a game that only has 4 servers remaining and at best 60k subs in NA. (more than 15k per server would be surprising)
Mythic taking over the EU DAoC is interesting, a bail out in case WAR collapses? Some where to go? DAoC has a loyal customer base so it's somewhere to retreat if something 'bad' happens to WAR i.e. gets binned.
The simple answer: Because when an old building that's falling apart is torn down, you get space to build a new one.
Well said. The current poor incarnation of a Warhammer fantasy mmo by Mythic is blocking a potentially better version being made. Vigil and THQ are behind the upcoming Warhammer 40k mmo. If WAR died then decent games companies like those two could potentially make some decent use of the IP.
I thought about resubbing too. But it's also strange that there is nothing like "we're working on a great content patch, wait a bit!" or "new expansionc inc!" or "incredible stuff on the horizont!". That is kinda weird.... Also most MMORPGs give me something when I resub. Some items, free days, experience bonus or whatever. WAR doesn't. Why not, don't they want me back?
In my opinion, if they have to bribe people with "welcome back goodies" to get people to try the game out again, then that's not a very good sign of confidence on their part that the game is improved.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I thought about resubbing too. But it's also strange that there is nothing like "we're working on a great content patch, wait a bit!" or "new expansionc inc!" or "incredible stuff on the horizont!". That is kinda weird.... Also most MMORPGs give me something when I resub. Some items, free days, experience bonus or whatever. WAR doesn't. Why not, don't they want me back?
In my opinion, if they have to bribe people with "welcome back goodies" to get people to try the game out again, then that's not a very good sign of confidence on their part that the game is improved.
I agree completely..
I also find it amusing that companies offer "goodies" to folks for re-subbing, yet the people that stick with them through the growing pains.....
I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for Mythic to add a third faction so that the RvR becomes more fun but it does not seem to happen. Actually I dont see much of anything happening with this game. So has Mythic given up on it or what?
I don't get it. You assume Mythic has given up on WAR because there is not third faction either in the game or officially planned.
On what planet are you living? It's like saying blizzard has given up on WoW as there is no social clothing tab in the game.
I read the patch notes and what I can see is they fixed many things, improved the engine, done needed tweaks here and there actually listening to the player's feedback. And now that they have a much more solid foundations they can build on top of it, as adding content on top of a crappy game still stays a crappy game.
This game is not going anywhere. The population is stable, not large but is stable. EA is still dumping money into developing it while Mythic is still dedicated to improving it and getting it back on track. Not to mention they are still launching in other territories. Stop the doom and gloom, there is no "maintenance mode" and certainly it has not been given up on.
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This game is not going anywhere. The population is stable, not large but is stable. EA is still dumping money into developing it while Mythic is still dedicated to improving it and getting it back on track. Not to mention they are still launching in other territories. Stop the doom and gloom, there is no "maintenance mode" and certainly it has not been given up on.
People said the same thing about Tabula Rasa. As soon as EA thinks they lose more money than they get on it they will can it.
I expect them to fire even more of Mythic crew soon, EA is still losing a lot of money and they consider WAR a failure.
The whole problem is that 2 rather stupid higher ranks of Mythic promised EA millions of players and the game becoming larger than Wow, and at the same time they screwed over both the mechanics and the world or Warhammer which upsetted the millions of GW fans.
I don't doubt that WAR can continue with 75-100K players for many years if someone else than EA would have owned it but now I would say things are rather bleak.
I do doubt that EA is "dumping money" into it however, EA already fired most of Mythics employees, a move that stopped Mythic from actually fixing up the game into the game they were planning of making. The endgame suffers and will suffer more until all the 6 cities are online and that is not going to happen unless a miracle happens.
WAR have it's points but it is clear that nobody at Mythic ever played Warhammer fantasy RPG or any other warhammer games, they should have invented their own IP instead because only Altdorf looks as it should, the rest of the game just isn't Warhammer.
The new crew that has been working is doing a fantastic job of listening and using player feedback, most everything that players said were issues have been, and continue to be addressed. You sound like one who have not played in quite some time, and honestly the trial does not count so don't even.
The game runs better, the content is smoother, and the RvR is balanced. EA is still putting money into it, albeit not as much as they were but money is still being put into it. You need to remember one thing, Tabula Rasa? That was a game ahead of its time that had a bad launch. But the key factor is NC Soft both published and developed it. This one is only PUBLISHED by EA. Meaning simply that Mythic has more say then you think.
The games population is stable and I would garner is making profit. Not much but it is paying the bills and will eventually recover EA's investment. If you have nothing but speculation and opinions based on more speculation and opinions please leave them to yourself instead of trying to hurt the game. I base everything I say on facts or actions, nor mere hatred like all you trolls out there.
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Thats a shame. With a third faction, updated gfx and better implemented end game it could have been a great MMORPG.
Bullcrap. This game is hopeless. It would take a complete combat remastering to save it. But this won't happen...
How could you possibly think the combat is the problem??? War has some of the best straight up combat out there...there's a whole crap ton of OTHER problems with the game but the core combat is what makes it actually interesting.
And leave it to me to step in and say unless you have played in the last month or two then you cannot say tons of problems. Most have been fixed, while others are still being fixed, while others continue to be fixed as time passes. This game is being improved and vastly. Change and corrections take time, people need patience and to give it time.
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The new crew that has been working is doing a fantastic job of listening and using player feedback, most everything that players said were issues have been, and continue to be addressed. You sound like one who have not played in quite some time, and honestly the trial does not count so don't even. The game runs better, the content is smoother, and the RvR is balanced. EA is still putting money into it, albeit not as much as they were but money is still being put into it. You need to remember one thing, Tabula Rasa? That was a game ahead of its time that had a bad launch. But the key factor is NC Soft both published and developed it. This one is only PUBLISHED by EA. Meaning simply that Mythic has more say then you think.
The games population is stable and I would garner is making profit. Not much but it is paying the bills and will eventually recover EA's investment. If you have nothing but speculation and opinions based on more speculation and opinions please leave them to yourself instead of trying to hurt the game. I base everything I say on facts or actions, nor mere hatred like all you trolls out there.
Wrong EA completely owns Mythic Entertainment they are not just the publisher. Mythic was also gutted last year by EA in case you forgot they laid off a large amount of its staff. You may want to review your "facts" Mythic has 0 control over anything, EA has total control of what happens or does not happen with Warhammer and at Mythic.
Look at EA's balance sheet from the last quarter, matter of fact look at its last 3. Then look at this from a business point of view not a fanboy of a game as EA is going to. Now if you are a company are you going to give multi-millions of dollars and invest a game that has gone from 60 servers to 4 servers in a little over a year? While I am glad you are having fun with the game you are also just as bad as the trolls because you are dealing in fanboy not from a business point of view as EA will look at this.
The one thing you have going for you is it would be far more expensive for EA to close the game down because of the license deal with Gamesworkshop than leaving it up in maintenance mode.
The one thing you have going for you is it would be far more expensive for EA to close the game down because of the license deal with Gamesworkshop than leaving it up in maintenance mode.
Why may i ask? Thought if EA just shut down War and give up on the IP, than they can stop paying loyalties fees to GW?
The agreement is over a number of years if EA defaults on the agreement it still has to pay Gamesworkshop the entire amount they are owed, EA can not just walk away and hand back the IP at no cost. Gamesworkshop could possibly work out an agreement to take it back but it would still have a cost to EA.
As long as WAR is current break even, aka laying off 40% of Mythics staff, cost cutting in other area's like getting rid of a lot of the scenerios to reduce server blades, and the game can break even, or even if it is still losing money but less than it would cost to close it down it will remain up. Even if they never recoup the investment in the game to make a profit it ends up being a cost measure for EA.
And leave it to me to step in and say unless you have played in the last month or two then you cannot say tons of problems. Most have been fixed, while others are still being fixed, while others continue to be fixed as time passes. This game is being improved and vastly. Change and corrections take time, people need patience and to give it time.
I'm curious as to what changes or plans they have for endgame? I have tried this game a few times, and have quit shortly there -after. I found city sieges incredibly boring and not at all what I expected when we were told we could take over capital cities.
I know they took away fortresses, so I'm assuming this leaves me with just bouncing around taking over forts and BOs? Which can be fun, but will get dull after a short time i think.
The agreement is over a number of years if EA defaults on the agreement it still has to pay Gamesworkshop the entire amount they are owed, EA can not just walk away and hand back the IP at no cost. Gamesworkshop could possibly work out an agreement to take it back but it would still have a cost to EA. As long as WAR is current break even, aka laying off 40% of Mythics staff, cost cutting in other area's like getting rid of a lot of the scenerios to reduce server blades, and the game can break even, or even if it is still losing money but less than it would cost to close it down it will remain up. Even if they never recoup the investment in the game to make a profit it ends up being a cost measure for EA.
Once again, stop hating on a game because you do not like it. I am not speaking as a fanboy. I am speaking as someone showing facts. Just because you don't agree with what facts I present that does in no way mean I am a fanboy, after all they are FACTS. Mythic has clearly said on Vent that they are NOT in maintenance mode and that EA is fully behind them.
It is also funny that you think that reducing the amount of active SCs affect how many server blades being used. Actually that is hilarious, maybe you should just stop while you are behind before you show your ignorance more. The game is breaking even on their bills or it would not be around. EA is greedy if there is no profit gain, then it would already be closed. The game is being worked on and worked on hard, changes take time to design, develop, balance, play test, mass test, and then release. If you do not know how game development works please do not, I repeat DO NOT speculate on it.
You look at one factor, your own hatred towards the game and thus make it and the developers sound bad in every opinion you state. When presented with facts you go the opposite of a fanboy and try and fault the game and everything they say or do for it. No one but you can be right and then you start making assumptions based on speculation that then only shows how little you know. It is a vicuous cycle and you are not the only one that comes here and does that, but it is sad people do not learn to leave opinions out of posts regarding these games and the condition they are in.
Originally posted by Marcus-
Originally posted by spyder2k5
And leave it to me to step in and say unless you have played in the last month or two then you cannot say tons of problems. Most have been fixed, while others are still being fixed, while others continue to be fixed as time passes. This game is being improved and vastly. Change and corrections take time, people need patience and to give it time.
I'm curious as to what changes or plans they have for endgame? I have tried this game a few times, and have quit shortly there -after. I found city sieges incredibly boring and not at all what I expected when we were told we could take over capital cities. I know they took away fortresses, so I'm assuming this leaves me with just bouncing around taking over forts and BOs? Which can be fun, but will get dull after a short time i think.
Fort will be back they are still there just not part of needing to take a capitol city. 1.3.4 patch is coming and will streamline city control just a bit, while patch 1.3.5 will rework how cities work. Watch their dev forums and you may just be surprised.
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Welcome, glad you like it and have joined the WAR efforts!
Just have to wait for the game to update and stuff.. But thanks hope to see you in game if possible
those of you making comments that the game has been given up are talking out of your @$$, it has been said on the Q&A of the latest Patch Test Server that Mythic is even working ion changing the city system, including combat and city sieging, they are hard at work with implementing new content like scenarios which a new one will be released this month among MANY other things, just because you don't get what you want yourself doesn't mean the game has been given up, if it had there would be no patch and no news about it, so please give it up and stop flaming the game when you probably haven't even played it in a year, which means you really have no idea what the game is like now, the game has changed a lot.
They are even putting the new Scenario restructuring on back on the drawing board due to players feedback so they can accomodate and make changes more along with what the community wants, that doesn't sound like a game that has been given up on when they are still spending resources on it.
So I suggest educating yourselves and actually reading and researching about the game and what is incoming for it and what has changed in it before making such statements based on old outdated experiences and misinformation.
as for my part, the past 3 weeks have seen MANY old players come back, and MANY new Subs, the past 3 weeks I been in T4 with over 300 Order on Gorfang at the same time around 9 pm EST on 1 map alone taking the zones and in T2 with my newly created Swordmaster I been hitting keeps every day and defending with full Warbands the past 3 days, so if that is a sign the game has been given up on and that the world around me is empty I must be living in a bizaro world.
The game is Most Definitely Not Dead(tm) - but some people seem to get a perverse pleasure out of bashing games they dislike in order to ruin the fun of others.
I think we call them "killjoys" - or at least, we used to.
To everyone that thinks WAR is dead there are five people playing the game and having a blast in the PvP that *only* WAR! offers. And I'm not a paid shill for the company - somebody else make a game that's even 3/4th the fun of WAR in PvP and just as easy to get into casually and I'll love that as well.
Truth be told, the closest thing on the market right now to WAR is Dark Age of Camelot - Mythic's other amazing PvP game that offered me years of fun, entertainment, and companionship.
I agreed, been playing it recently after a few months break (forgot to cancel my subscription).
T1 on European servers very active, a lot of fun to be had; I just keep hoping that they will do an expansion for this game, which I feel would move this game from good to great.
To all asshats who say the game is dead. You are right. Don't play. We will be okay without you.
I'm serious when I say that Mythic gave up on Warhammer before it was launched.
I hope so.
I hope so.
A simple question: why?
The simple answer: Because when an old building that's falling apart is torn down, you get space to build a new one.
I would not say given up but it is now a maintenance mode game. Mythic was gutted by EA last year and now has a small staff, which means small content updates to the game(see DAOC).
Also take into account EA put up yet another VERY bad quarter, I highly doubt they are going to invest any kind of real money into a game that only has 4 servers remaining and at best 60k subs in NA. (more than 15k per server would be surprising)
Mythic taking over the EU DAoC is interesting, a bail out in case WAR collapses? Some where to go? DAoC has a loyal customer base so it's somewhere to retreat if something 'bad' happens to WAR i.e. gets binned.
The simple answer: Because when an old building that's falling apart is torn down, you get space to build a new one.
Well said. The current poor incarnation of a Warhammer fantasy mmo by Mythic is blocking a potentially better version being made. Vigil and THQ are behind the upcoming Warhammer 40k mmo. If WAR died then decent games companies like those two could potentially make some decent use of the IP.
In my opinion, if they have to bribe people with "welcome back goodies" to get people to try the game out again, then that's not a very good sign of confidence on their part that the game is improved.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
In my opinion, if they have to bribe people with "welcome back goodies" to get people to try the game out again, then that's not a very good sign of confidence on their part that the game is improved.
I agree completely..
I also find it amusing that companies offer "goodies" to folks for re-subbing, yet the people that stick with them through the growing pains.....
bleh
I don't get it. You assume Mythic has given up on WAR because there is not third faction either in the game or officially planned.
On what planet are you living? It's like saying blizzard has given up on WoW as there is no social clothing tab in the game.
I read the patch notes and what I can see is they fixed many things, improved the engine, done needed tweaks here and there actually listening to the player's feedback. And now that they have a much more solid foundations they can build on top of it, as adding content on top of a crappy game still stays a crappy game.
This game is not going anywhere. The population is stable, not large but is stable. EA is still dumping money into developing it while Mythic is still dedicated to improving it and getting it back on track. Not to mention they are still launching in other territories. Stop the doom and gloom, there is no "maintenance mode" and certainly it has not been given up on.
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People said the same thing about Tabula Rasa. As soon as EA thinks they lose more money than they get on it they will can it.
I expect them to fire even more of Mythic crew soon, EA is still losing a lot of money and they consider WAR a failure.
The whole problem is that 2 rather stupid higher ranks of Mythic promised EA millions of players and the game becoming larger than Wow, and at the same time they screwed over both the mechanics and the world or Warhammer which upsetted the millions of GW fans.
I don't doubt that WAR can continue with 75-100K players for many years if someone else than EA would have owned it but now I would say things are rather bleak.
I do doubt that EA is "dumping money" into it however, EA already fired most of Mythics employees, a move that stopped Mythic from actually fixing up the game into the game they were planning of making. The endgame suffers and will suffer more until all the 6 cities are online and that is not going to happen unless a miracle happens.
WAR have it's points but it is clear that nobody at Mythic ever played Warhammer fantasy RPG or any other warhammer games, they should have invented their own IP instead because only Altdorf looks as it should, the rest of the game just isn't Warhammer.
Well, Tabula Rasa was NCSoft's game...
The new crew that has been working is doing a fantastic job of listening and using player feedback, most everything that players said were issues have been, and continue to be addressed. You sound like one who have not played in quite some time, and honestly the trial does not count so don't even.
The game runs better, the content is smoother, and the RvR is balanced. EA is still putting money into it, albeit not as much as they were but money is still being put into it. You need to remember one thing, Tabula Rasa? That was a game ahead of its time that had a bad launch. But the key factor is NC Soft both published and developed it. This one is only PUBLISHED by EA. Meaning simply that Mythic has more say then you think.
The games population is stable and I would garner is making profit. Not much but it is paying the bills and will eventually recover EA's investment. If you have nothing but speculation and opinions based on more speculation and opinions please leave them to yourself instead of trying to hurt the game. I base everything I say on facts or actions, nor mere hatred like all you trolls out there.
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Bullcrap. This game is hopeless. It would take a complete combat remastering to save it. But this won't happen...
How could you possibly think the combat is the problem??? War has some of the best straight up combat out there...there's a whole crap ton of OTHER problems with the game but the core combat is what makes it actually interesting.
And leave it to me to step in and say unless you have played in the last month or two then you cannot say tons of problems. Most have been fixed, while others are still being fixed, while others continue to be fixed as time passes. This game is being improved and vastly. Change and corrections take time, people need patience and to give it time.
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Wrong EA completely owns Mythic Entertainment they are not just the publisher. Mythic was also gutted last year by EA in case you forgot they laid off a large amount of its staff. You may want to review your "facts" Mythic has 0 control over anything, EA has total control of what happens or does not happen with Warhammer and at Mythic.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/95994-EA-Heavily-Cuts-Jobs-at-Mythic-Tiburon-Black-Box-and-Redwood
Look at EA's balance sheet from the last quarter, matter of fact look at its last 3. Then look at this from a business point of view not a fanboy of a game as EA is going to. Now if you are a company are you going to give multi-millions of dollars and invest a game that has gone from 60 servers to 4 servers in a little over a year? While I am glad you are having fun with the game you are also just as bad as the trolls because you are dealing in fanboy not from a business point of view as EA will look at this.
The one thing you have going for you is it would be far more expensive for EA to close the game down because of the license deal with Gamesworkshop than leaving it up in maintenance mode.
The one thing you have going for you is it would be far more expensive for EA to close the game down because of the license deal with Gamesworkshop than leaving it up in maintenance mode.
Why may i ask? Thought if EA just shut down War and give up on the IP, than they can stop paying loyalties fees to GW?
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The agreement is over a number of years if EA defaults on the agreement it still has to pay Gamesworkshop the entire amount they are owed, EA can not just walk away and hand back the IP at no cost. Gamesworkshop could possibly work out an agreement to take it back but it would still have a cost to EA.
As long as WAR is current break even, aka laying off 40% of Mythics staff, cost cutting in other area's like getting rid of a lot of the scenerios to reduce server blades, and the game can break even, or even if it is still losing money but less than it would cost to close it down it will remain up. Even if they never recoup the investment in the game to make a profit it ends up being a cost measure for EA.
I'm curious as to what changes or plans they have for endgame? I have tried this game a few times, and have quit shortly there -after. I found city sieges incredibly boring and not at all what I expected when we were told we could take over capital cities.
I know they took away fortresses, so I'm assuming this leaves me with just bouncing around taking over forts and BOs? Which can be fun, but will get dull after a short time i think.
Once again, stop hating on a game because you do not like it. I am not speaking as a fanboy. I am speaking as someone showing facts. Just because you don't agree with what facts I present that does in no way mean I am a fanboy, after all they are FACTS. Mythic has clearly said on Vent that they are NOT in maintenance mode and that EA is fully behind them.
It is also funny that you think that reducing the amount of active SCs affect how many server blades being used. Actually that is hilarious, maybe you should just stop while you are behind before you show your ignorance more. The game is breaking even on their bills or it would not be around. EA is greedy if there is no profit gain, then it would already be closed. The game is being worked on and worked on hard, changes take time to design, develop, balance, play test, mass test, and then release. If you do not know how game development works please do not, I repeat DO NOT speculate on it.
You look at one factor, your own hatred towards the game and thus make it and the developers sound bad in every opinion you state. When presented with facts you go the opposite of a fanboy and try and fault the game and everything they say or do for it. No one but you can be right and then you start making assumptions based on speculation that then only shows how little you know. It is a vicuous cycle and you are not the only one that comes here and does that, but it is sad people do not learn to leave opinions out of posts regarding these games and the condition they are in.
Fort will be back they are still there just not part of needing to take a capitol city. 1.3.4 patch is coming and will streamline city control just a bit, while patch 1.3.5 will rework how cities work. Watch their dev forums and you may just be surprised.Owner/Admin of GodlessGamer.com - Gaming news and reviews for the godless.