Everyone already got scammed buying and subbing to the game. anyone who fell for this deserved it. It is natural selection.
If someone knocks on your door and says, Hey its me i forgot my key.. Open up, and you let in a murderer... well as tragic as it is Im glad you got killed. You might be a police officer.. I do not want to depend on you for protection.. you might be a teacher.. I do not want you educating my children. You might be a taxi driver.. I am not getting in a car with you if you are that fucking retarded.
This is why background checks are getting more and more intense when seeking employment. You have to protect yourself first before depending on anyone else. This is simple common sense.
This is no different than a restaurant worker asking the hot waitress to go get him a 1/3 pan of steam.. or an electric spounge.. if the broad goes off to get it, well she is not dating material.
Everyone already got scammed buying and subbing to the game. anyone who fell for this deserved it. It is natural selection. If someone knocks on your door and says, Hey its me i forgot my key.. Open up, and you let in a murderer... well as tragic as it is Im glad you got killed. ...(snipt) Natural selection.. LOL
The difference is you applaud the murderer. And if your parents/siblings buy it? Natural selection.
LOL all you want, you'll still understand just as much tomorrow.
I Understand plenty and my family or friends are not that dumb.. what I said is indisputable. It is not so much the murderer I am applauding.. its natural selection.. I still think the murder should be dealt with, as thats one less person me or mine have to be endangered by their stupidity.
anyway it was only a metaphor not an Oxy Clean commercial.
Everyone already got scammed buying and subbing to the game. anyone who fell for this deserved it. It is natural selection.
Hmm, dunno quite how to take this? But by looking at your post history, it seems that natural selection has done it's job by keeping you in the basement, and hopefully sterile
Your game mechanics argument is pointless. The guy has been lying to people who were to stupid to beleive in what he told them....
Not pointless- just you can't see the point.
Originally posted by biofellis
Opaque game dynamics: People didn't know that the supposed 'name change' would/would not remove guild access.
etc...
Seriously... are you serious ? LOL. (edit: LMAO, thanks for the fun )
No prob, I'm always impressed by people who laugh at you when they dismiss a rational post. You don't even get it, do you? You just let everyone know how thick you are. Keep laughing- you're the joke.
And yes the guy in an ass, a racist etc.. as you say. I agree, so what? Do we need to whine on this forum because some guy has been insulting people on the internets?
If you're on a forum, you're probably whining. Here- look up- a guy whining about 'Do we have to whine about...'
I mean, it sure beats reasonably discussing logical points, right?
And the point wasn't that he was insulting people, lying to them, or taking their shit- not for me. The point was he used a policy of Aventurine (renaming chars) to get instant cred. In most guilds- who really knows who? You just adventure together- know each other's names. If someone played one of your guildies chars, you prob wouldn't know or much care. It's just a game. If it happened to your guild, why would you be immune? All the top guys drinking buddies? For most people- this isn't the case. And it's going to cost Aventurine subscribers, and therefore money. That's the point to Aventurine.
What's your point? 'I don't care'? "Why talk about something I don't care about."? If you so dislike the whining, read a different thread. There's nothing to say here that'll help- right?
Logical points?
You are blaming the game because "People didn't know that the supposed 'name change' would/would not remove guild access", etc... ? WAKE UP.
Originally posted by biofellis
The point was he used a policy of Aventurine (renaming chars) to get instant cred. In most guilds- who really knows who?
Yes he lied to people telling them his name had been changed by Aventurine. And you blame the game? Man.... some people are destined to always be the victims.. eh?
1. "In most guilds- who really knows who"?
Every half decent guild has procedures like enforcing voice chat before recruitment and nominations.
There are REASONS WHY these procedures are there.
Ahh.... yes. Most guilds asked him to come on voice chat for verification; he just told them that he was busy on the phone and they nominated him anyway..... Another example, if you read the stories, one of the victim guilds had a procedure..... asking a secret question, ......but the answer was open for everyone to see on the guild forums. But of course you blame the game. WAKE UP.
2. The trick he used has been used for years in other games like UO, EVE, etc... Every half decent guild knows about his. There have been countless threads about his, just check the EVE forums for some examples.
As this has been going on in mmos for at least 8 years now it's actually hilarious that it was still possible to achieve in the same way.
Everyone already got scammed buying and subbing to the game. anyone who fell for this deserved it. It is natural selection.
Hmm, dunno quite how to take this? But by looking at your post history, it seems that natural selection has done it's job by keeping you in the basement, and hopefully sterile
Doh! that was a good one!
Silly rabbid fanboy.. lol I have never posted anything that is not 100% fact..
OP: Thanks for the link to the story. I should not have been surprised but I must admit I was surprised that he could continue to pull it off agian and agian. In my life, I never put my faith in humanity...I know myself all too well. I should've known. I should've seen it coming.
The thief...well not much to say except there's another walking, living proof that life on earth will always suck.
Everyone else gettin their panties in a bunch for cheaters: It's a computer game. Not my children's education savings and retirement account. lol
OP: Thanks for the link to the story. I should not have been surprised but I must admit I was surprised that he could continue to pull it off agian and agian. In my life, I never put my faith in humanity...I know myself all too well. I should've known. I should've seen it coming. The thief...well not much to say except there's another walking, living proof that life on earth will always suck. Everyone else gettin their panties in a bunch for cheaters: It's a computer game. Not my children's education savings and retirement account. lol
Some people seem to take their pixels way too seriously.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
You are blaming the game because "People didn't know that the supposed 'name change' would/would not remove guild access", etc... ? Wake up. I guess I should wake up- you make an interesting point there- I mean no company has ever had to post 'No member of <online service> will ask you for your password'- because everyone knows. Likewise, online gamers have way more knowledge about the intracacies of Aventurine policies- they all know that a name change doesn't change guild access- it was in 'the memo' Everyone got 'the memo', right? Before doing something as important as giving the keys to your guild you will get yourself informed if you are not sure about what you are doing, don't you?
1. "In most guilds- who really knows who"? Every half decent guild has procedures like enforcing voice chat before recruitment and nominations. There are REASONS WHY these procedures are there. Let's just say for the sake of argument that I'm speaking for the 'quarter decent' guilds then. New, maybe casual- untested... You know-way more of them than the (as you defined them) 'half decent' guilds with 'anti-hostile' security policies. Worse, your voice policy (as you defined it) does not cover what happened- as (in theory) it's neither a recruitment or nomination. It was a 'supposed' known contact. Yeah- they screwed up. But the 'kernel of doubt' was that Aventurine did it. Yes it's a nomination. The procedures are there BECAUSE of the scams. They didn't respect their own policies, so they have only themselves to blame (they did ask him to come on voice chat for verification, but when he told them he was on the phone they promoted him anyway). But you are blaming the game.....
Ahh.... yes. If you read the stories, one of the victim guilds had a procedure..... asking a secret question, but the answer was open for everyone to see on the guild forums. But of course you blame the game. WAKE UP. Hm. I can see how simple improvement could make the game better. You see that only idiots mess things up & deserve what they get. It's clear you don't understand the difference between gaming and metagaming. Asking someone to sell you their armor for a lordly sum, then ganking their naked ass and taking your money back is gaming. Infiltrating their guild, and offering to power-levelanyone who gives you their password, then doing what you will with the accounts is meta-gaming. 'The real' spilling into 'the game'- this is what I'm talking about. Eyes open yet? It's RPG freedom in a sandbox world. Darkfall is one of the rare games that does it differently, but you want to change it. There are enough linear handholding games, if that is what you prefer those games are waiting for you.
2. The trick he used has been used for years in other games like UO, EVE, etc... Every half decent guild knows about his. There have been countless threads about his, just check the EVE forums for some examples. Yes. And the game designers know about it too. And still it's there. Because still you make excuses & still you pay because you've managed to work around it with extra effort on your part, and think 'so should everyone else'. Fair enough. Darkfall is an open sandbox world. There are good guys and there are bad guys. Some people are lying in this game to cheat on you . Why should I make excuses? Risks and danger add to the fun. This is war.
As this has been going on for at least 8 years now it's actually hilarious that it was still possible to achieve in the same way. Yes. Absolutely hilarious. You so don't get it. You are blaming the game because people are lying to you to get your stuff. I can't help you, sorry.
My comments in green.
edit: Just get some security procedures in place AND stick to them, no matter what. Danger is everywhere in DF, you can trust no one.
Once you get your security policies in place this won't be a problem for you anymore...... (But still, shit happens....and you never know when..... this is part of fun).
So, the bottom line is that this type of behavior is explicitly prohibited by Aventurine and is a bannable offense. Good to know. ~Ripper
Thankfully it isn't completely prohibited. So we still have our sandbox freedom.
He approached the first 3 or 4 guilds by telling them that his character had been renamed by AV, and this isn't prohibited:
How is it not prohibited? That's only one piece of a larger deception. Here's the post by Mr. White:
The support department let us know that they will investigate claims of character impersonation and scamming, and permanently ban the impersonator and any related accounts.
An example of this behavior would be a player creating a character using a similar name with the supreme general of a clan and using this tactic to gain access to the clan vault and take items out of it. In cases like this, the character will be banned and all actions and associations of this character will be investigated.
He did exactly that. He pretended to be another player by using a similar name, telling other players it had been changed by Aventurine, in order to gain access to their vault. It may or may not have been against the rules when he did it, but it's against the rules now...
Nothing he did has anything to do with Darkfall being a "sandbox".
Before doing something as important as giving the keys to your guild you will get yourself informed if you are not sure about what you are doing, don't you?
Me? Yup. People who lost their names because of Aventurine changing their names? They should start from scratch. Or hope they have understanding guildies. Or hope that no one scams using this premise. Gaming vs metagaming- you still don't get it. Yes it's a nomination. The procedures are there BECAUSE of the scams. They didn't respect their own policies, so they have only themselves to blame (they did ask him to come on voice chat for verification, but when he told them he was on the phone they promoted him anyway). But you are blaming the game..... You're talking about one of the many guilds scammed, and using it as a baseline for justification of them all. That's pretty lopsided. And again, read my posts. I'm not 'blaming' the game. I'm just calling it an exploit- which it is. It's RPG freedom in a sandbox world. Darkfall is one of the rare games that does it differently, but you want to change it. There are enough linear handholding games, if that is what you prefer those games are waiting for you.
Ooh- another 'veiled' carebear attack. You know what? Darkfall is the perfect game. Nothing at all should change. How's that? Is that what you prefer? No change to fear? You might actually have to use some skill to own people, not manipulative backstabbing to boost their stuff? Darkfall is an open sandbox world. There are good guys and there are bad guys. Some people are lying in this game to cheat on you . Why should I make excuses? Risks and danger add to the fun. This is war. It's a game. God forbid an ounce of integrity enter into it and spoil the whole thing. You don't get it. This guy was 'lying on' Aventurine. The made up story uses them, and further messes with their paying customers and loses them money. If I ran the business- I wouldn't be happy with people pretending 'I' did shit I didn't. This is an 'In Real Life' lie- not an ingame scam. You are blaming the game because people are lying to you to get your stuff. I can't help you, sorry. Um. My stuff? Again, with the assumptions. Are you tired of being so wrong yet? No matter how many times or how clearly I say it, you don't get it. I didn't say people shouldn't lie, cheat, steal in the game. Just that metagaming sucks. Aventurine would be wise to stop it, because it misrepresents them, and their ability to deliver good game, and god forbid be able to be believed when people 'in game' talk about 'administrative policy'. Letting the lie run rampant & unpunished means 'the truth'- if ever it was spoken, will not be believed.
Eventually, Aventurine might not be trusted.
My comments in green.
edit: Just get some security procedures in place AND stick to them, no matter what. Danger is everywhere in DF, you can trust no one.
Once you get your security policies in place this won't be a problem for you anymore...... (But still, shit happens....and you never know when..... this is part of fun).
Give a weasel enough time, and an alt or two, and you will be infiltrated. it may take weeks instead of minutes, but if he wants to- it'll happen. You just keep believing that your security will work forever. Hell- if you've been around long enough, it might be too late. But that's 'in-game' You take your risks. My point in this was the 'Aventurine' lie.
In real life it's illegal to pretend to be a cop, federal agent, doctor, lawyer- etc. There's a reason for that. In Darkfall, apparently Aventurine doesn't care how their actions (or 'pretended actions') affect their 'citizens'. If you don't care- fine.
Some people are fine with the world doing whatever long as they have their shotgun. Whatever. But I'll discuss it, right or wrong & be accused of whining or having a good point- it's all the same. We're just talking. That Aventurine will now ban anyone who does it means they care at least a little bit too. Enough to go a step past talking.
So I guess the game wasn't perfect after all.
In real life their is CIA and their are agents being illegal at Iran as we speak try to raise havoc in Iran government. There was/is also blackwater in Irak killing people without being authorized by any official mandate and pretend to be regular military.
All perfectly legal.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
He managed to do this because those people were to trusting yes, but he also had a lot of help.
1. No visible distinction in the game between a capital i and an L.
2. Clan interface in the game is sloppy, if it is true that deleted characters remain visible (wich i'm not sure that it is, this could be a clever lie for wich his victims fell).
3. The ease of impersonating another character because everyone runs around naked.
4. The accepted way to drop out of a clan when you are going to make an expensive purchase, because of the posibility to war another clan on the spot.
Of course he is clever enough to fool others and gain their trust. But I doubt this is a very nice person. His racist remarks for one, wich could have been overlooked were it not for his profiles signature.
He managed to do this because those people were to trusting yes, but he also had a lot of help.
1. No visible distinction in the game between a capital i and an L. 2. Clan interface in the game is sloppy, if it is true that deleted characters remain visible (wich i'm not sure that it is, this could be a clever lie for wich his victims fell). 3. The ease of impersonating another character because everyone runs around naked. 4. The accepted way to drop out of a clan when you are going to make an expensive purchase, because of the posibility to war another clan on the spot.
Of course he is clever enough to fool others and gain their trust. But I doubt this is a very nice person. His racist remarks for one, wich could have been overlooked were it not for his profiles signature.
First he did not always use the i's and L's exploit. This was also fixed in the Clan Tab when NA released where i's and L's could be distinguished.
2: Clan Interface is indeed sloppy and a deleted/transfered character will remain in the clan until deleted.
3: Wrong. Players were gullible and it has nothing to do with "everyone running around naked". He mentionned several times that said character was an alt or a re-roll.
4: Dropping clan tags is somewhat a popular action to do when trading in an NPC City and trading with a member of a war dec' clan.
So, the bottom line is that this type of behavior is explicitly prohibited by Aventurine and is a bannable offense. Good to know. ~Ripper
Thankfully it isn't completely prohibited. So we still have our sandbox freedom.
He approached the first 3 or 4 guilds by telling them that his character had been renamed by AV, and this isn't prohibited:
How is it not prohibited? That's only one piece of a larger deception. Here's the post by Mr. White:
The support department let us know that they will investigate claims of character impersonation and scamming, and permanently ban the impersonator and any related accounts.
An example of this behavior would be a player creating a character using a similar name with the supreme general of a clan and using this tactic to gain access to the clan vault and take items out of it. In cases like this, the character will be banned and all actions and associations of this character will be investigated.
He did exactly that. He pretended to be another player by using a similar name, telling other players it had been changed by Aventurine, in order to gain access to their vault. It may or may not have been against the rules when he did it, but it's against the rules now...
Nothing he did has anything to do with Darkfall being a "sandbox".
~Ripper
As I said, only the i/l etc ... impersonations are prohibited. AV did the right thing.
Once again for you:
He approached the first 3 or 4 guilds by telling them that his character had been renamed by AV, and this isn't prohibited:
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Q:what if an officer of guild x is named "jim"
and evil scammer y makes a character named "robert"
then proceeds to send a tell to officer z of guild x that "robert" is actually "jim"
A:In this case it is up to the players in question to verify if the person is indeed their friend. The policy is about trying to fake the in game name of another person on purpose to impersonate someone else.
"while i marvel at the above line and am subsequently told to google it cal vanzid kills a solo raider guy for telling him to go fuck himself and more drama starts over that, it is the final straw for celiah. he can no longer handle it and runs off into the wilderness to be one with nature and molest the small animals."
Having read this thread as well as the parent thread, all i can say is, I feel sorry and pity for all of you that think this guy deserves anything but punishment. Honestly, I pity you.
Quite funny that he robbed them all without much effort at all. Ah it must be easy to fool Americans and Europe. You never hear of this in Australian based games/servers.
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Just wondering... If I sneak up on a miner and gank him and take his loot , is that any different than looting a Clan!
He did exactly what I did but on a larger scale.
All part of game and I'm glad GM's haven't banned him.
That being said , I hope he uses his impressive skills for good in real life.
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Everyone already got scammed buying and subbing to the game. anyone who fell for this deserved it. It is natural selection.
If someone knocks on your door and says, Hey its me i forgot my key.. Open up, and you let in a murderer... well as tragic as it is Im glad you got killed. You might be a police officer.. I do not want to depend on you for protection.. you might be a teacher.. I do not want you educating my children. You might be a taxi driver.. I am not getting in a car with you if you are that fucking retarded.
This is why background checks are getting more and more intense when seeking employment. You have to protect yourself first before depending on anyone else. This is simple common sense.
This is no different than a restaurant worker asking the hot waitress to go get him a 1/3 pan of steam.. or an electric spounge.. if the broad goes off to get it, well she is not dating material.
Natural selection.. LOL
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The difference is you applaud the murderer. And if your parents/siblings buy it? Natural selection.
LOL all you want, you'll still understand just as much tomorrow.
I Understand plenty and my family or friends are not that dumb.. what I said is indisputable. It is not so much the murderer I am applauding.. its natural selection.. I still think the murder should be dealt with, as thats one less person me or mine have to be endangered by their stupidity.
anyway it was only a metaphor not an Oxy Clean commercial.
Hmm, dunno quite how to take this? But by looking at your post history, it seems that natural selection has done it's job by keeping you in the basement, and hopefully sterile
Doh! that was a good one!
Logical points?
You are blaming the game because "People didn't know that the supposed 'name change' would/would not remove guild access", etc... ? WAKE UP.
Yes he lied to people telling them his name had been changed by Aventurine. And you blame the game? Man.... some people are destined to always be the victims.. eh?
1. "In most guilds- who really knows who"?
Every half decent guild has procedures like enforcing voice chat before recruitment and nominations.
There are REASONS WHY these procedures are there.
Ahh.... yes. Most guilds asked him to come on voice chat for verification; he just told them that he was busy on the phone and they nominated him anyway..... Another example, if you read the stories, one of the victim guilds had a procedure..... asking a secret question, ......but the answer was open for everyone to see on the guild forums. But of course you blame the game. WAKE UP.
2. The trick he used has been used for years in other games like UO, EVE, etc... Every half decent guild knows about his. There have been countless threads about his, just check the EVE forums for some examples.
As this has been going on in mmos for at least 8 years now it's actually hilarious that it was still possible to achieve in the same way.
Hmm, dunno quite how to take this? But by looking at your post history, it seems that natural selection has done it's job by keeping you in the basement, and hopefully sterile
Doh! that was a good one!
Silly rabbid fanboy.. lol I have never posted anything that is not 100% fact..
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OP: Thanks for the link to the story. I should not have been surprised but I must admit I was surprised that he could continue to pull it off agian and agian. In my life, I never put my faith in humanity...I know myself all too well. I should've known. I should've seen it coming.
The thief...well not much to say except there's another walking, living proof that life on earth will always suck.
Everyone else gettin their panties in a bunch for cheaters: It's a computer game. Not my children's education savings and retirement account. lol
Some people seem to take their pixels way too seriously.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
My comments in green.
edit: Just get some security procedures in place AND stick to them, no matter what. Danger is everywhere in DF, you can trust no one.
Once you get your security policies in place this won't be a problem for you anymore...... (But still, shit happens....and you never know when..... this is part of fun).
Thankfully it isn't completely prohibited. So we still have our sandbox freedom.
He approached the first 3 or 4 guilds by telling them that his character had been renamed by AV, and this isn't prohibited:
How is it not prohibited? That's only one piece of a larger deception. Here's the post by Mr. White:
The support department let us know that they will investigate claims of character impersonation and scamming, and permanently ban the impersonator and any related accounts.
An example of this behavior would be a player creating a character using a similar name with the supreme general of a clan and using this tactic to gain access to the clan vault and take items out of it. In cases like this, the character will be banned and all actions and associations of this character will be investigated.
He did exactly that. He pretended to be another player by using a similar name, telling other players it had been changed by Aventurine, in order to gain access to their vault. It may or may not have been against the rules when he did it, but it's against the rules now...
Nothing he did has anything to do with Darkfall being a "sandbox".
~Ripper
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My comments in green.
edit: Just get some security procedures in place AND stick to them, no matter what. Danger is everywhere in DF, you can trust no one.
Once you get your security policies in place this won't be a problem for you anymore...... (But still, shit happens....and you never know when..... this is part of fun).
Give a weasel enough time, and an alt or two, and you will be infiltrated. it may take weeks instead of minutes, but if he wants to- it'll happen. You just keep believing that your security will work forever. Hell- if you've been around long enough, it might be too late. But that's 'in-game' You take your risks. My point in this was the 'Aventurine' lie.
In real life it's illegal to pretend to be a cop, federal agent, doctor, lawyer- etc. There's a reason for that. In Darkfall, apparently Aventurine doesn't care how their actions (or 'pretended actions') affect their 'citizens'. If you don't care- fine.
Some people are fine with the world doing whatever long as they have their shotgun. Whatever. But I'll discuss it, right or wrong & be accused of whining or having a good point- it's all the same. We're just talking. That Aventurine will now ban anyone who does it means they care at least a little bit too. Enough to go a step past talking.
So I guess the game wasn't perfect after all.
In real life their is CIA and their are agents being illegal at Iran as we speak try to raise havoc in Iran government. There was/is also blackwater in Irak killing people without being authorized by any official mandate and pretend to be regular military.
All perfectly legal.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
He managed to do this because those people were to trusting yes, but he also had a lot of help.
1. No visible distinction in the game between a capital i and an L.
2. Clan interface in the game is sloppy, if it is true that deleted characters remain visible (wich i'm not sure that it is, this could be a clever lie for wich his victims fell).
3. The ease of impersonating another character because everyone runs around naked.
4. The accepted way to drop out of a clan when you are going to make an expensive purchase, because of the posibility to war another clan on the spot.
Of course he is clever enough to fool others and gain their trust. But I doubt this is a very nice person. His racist remarks for one, wich could have been overlooked were it not for his profiles signature.
First he did not always use the i's and L's exploit. This was also fixed in the Clan Tab when NA released where i's and L's could be distinguished.
2: Clan Interface is indeed sloppy and a deleted/transfered character will remain in the clan until deleted.
3: Wrong. Players were gullible and it has nothing to do with "everyone running around naked". He mentionned several times that said character was an alt or a re-roll.
4: Dropping clan tags is somewhat a popular action to do when trading in an NPC City and trading with a member of a war dec' clan.
Thankfully it isn't completely prohibited. So we still have our sandbox freedom.
He approached the first 3 or 4 guilds by telling them that his character had been renamed by AV, and this isn't prohibited:
How is it not prohibited? That's only one piece of a larger deception. Here's the post by Mr. White:
The support department let us know that they will investigate claims of character impersonation and scamming, and permanently ban the impersonator and any related accounts.
An example of this behavior would be a player creating a character using a similar name with the supreme general of a clan and using this tactic to gain access to the clan vault and take items out of it. In cases like this, the character will be banned and all actions and associations of this character will be investigated.
He did exactly that. He pretended to be another player by using a similar name, telling other players it had been changed by Aventurine, in order to gain access to their vault. It may or may not have been against the rules when he did it, but it's against the rules now...
Nothing he did has anything to do with Darkfall being a "sandbox".
~Ripper
As I said, only the i/l etc ... impersonations are prohibited. AV did the right thing.
Once again for you:
He approached the first 3 or 4 guilds by telling them that his character had been renamed by AV, and this isn't prohibited:
----
Q:what if an officer of guild x is named "jim"
and evil scammer y makes a character named "robert"
then proceeds to send a tell to officer z of guild x that "robert" is actually "jim"
A:In this case it is up to the players in question to verify if the person is indeed their friend. The policy is about trying to fake the in game name of another person on purpose to impersonate someone else.
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Sad and funny at the same time
Sad because alot of peoples hard work went to waste.
funny because of how gullible people are. Why would you promote someone to full access without talking to them in vent first.
ROFL, this is way better then what happened to BoB in Eve.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
The man is a pure genius.
"while i marvel at the above line and am subsequently told to google it cal vanzid kills a solo raider guy for telling him to go fuck himself and more drama starts over that, it is the final straw for celiah. he can no longer handle it and runs off into the wilderness to be one with nature and molest the small animals."
This one cracked me up amongst a few others.
And that video made by Celiah... ROFL.
Having read this thread as well as the parent thread, all i can say is, I feel sorry and pity for all of you that think this guy deserves anything but punishment. Honestly, I pity you.
Quite funny that he robbed them all without much effort at all. Ah it must be easy to fool Americans and Europe. You never hear of this in Australian based games/servers.