I had a horrible experience with the guards last night. Some guy attacks me while harvesting, I defend myself, he calls the guards and then camps me and about 3 others at the priest - then kills it when he's bored with berating and ganking all of us. I guess he got away with it because he "pushed" me instead of attacking, but there's no real way to tell because it all looks like an attack to me. Either way, this guard system is the worst out of all games I've seen similar types in... and the players are some of the worst I've ever seen in general. Darkfall has nothing on this crowd of jagoffs, then again, I am sure it's the same people who bashed DF after launch while being similar jerks in their beta phases. It never ends I tell ya, a whole new breed of scumbags. Call me a carebear or whatever, I recommend you try to actually PvP in this game and not just call the guards, and feign being pro while doing it.
you can hold block and attack to push people, you dont get flagged by that.
After a few hours of getting killed by the guards for attacking that gazelle. I logged back in, I was grey. i rezzed eventually as there were a ton of people killing the priest over and over and over... I returned to the city, typed out "guards" AND I KILLED MYSELF! The guards attacked me and I died.
After a few hours of getting killed by the guards for attacking that gazelle. I logged back in, I was grey. i rezzed eventually as there were a ton of people killing the priest over and over and over... I returned to the city, typed out "guards" AND I KILLED MYSELF! The guards attacked me and I died.
If you are grey (your screenshot shows it) and call guards the guards will kill you for being a criminal. Like a drug dealer calling the cops with a warant out on them.
I think it is great to finally have another UO style flagging system. Some people should really read the manual before jumping into a PvP centric MMO =]
I don't know if much has changed since the last stress test (my gaming computer needs a new PSU), but I had the same problems with "push and guards". A guy went on kicking me with his shield, and I thought that would be an aggressive act, but since tab-ing works so badly, I could not see his flag (and didn't even know his name). So I axed him once, and a dude called "guards" and I went to the afterlife.
My main issue with the game is clearly the GUI. I need to identify names on the players (and NPCs) more easier and I need to know if I am in a fight or we are just "playing around", since it can influence my flagging. And the chat didn't work for me, or I don't how to use it (if I have to press a button). I could care less about the other issues with the game, if this was fixed.
I think it is great to finally have another UO style flagging system. Some people should really read the manual before jumping into a PvP centric MMO =]
I cant wait to get a new rig so I can play.
What manual? Ahh the one that came with the discs...wait no. The one easily found in a pdf format...wait not there either. Countless wading through pointless posts to get to one of substance...yep thats the winner. I am all for figuring stuff out but when there is no real documentation then some will have questions that the community has to answer. So much is trial and error that the only folks one can rely on is the community.
look at this webpage (same one you downloaded the client from) and see if there is anything that hints at being a guide...
If there is a gazelle in town then it is prolly someones pet, you attack someones pet and its the same as if you attacked them.
If it was someone's pet the pet owner would have said "guards" which they did not do, look at the chat log in the pictures. Because the owner did not say anything, that means the gazelle called guards or the system is bugged. Remember if you attack blues in a town, they must call guards for you to die.
No anyone could have called guards. The person who called them could have been out of speaking range but still in guard range. So the person taking the screen may not have seen who called guards but if a guard showed up someone called them.
Whenever your pet attacks someone, either from being attacked or being ordered to attack the owner gets a message " <petname> will attack <person name>"
If you diddn't order your pet to attack and you get that message and say guards you don't have to be within talking range of the attacker. You have to be in the same guard zone and within guard range.
Bad system from how your explaining it. I could sit there with a macro and call guards every x seconds (x as in time that it doesn't stack) and just kill people randomly?
Basically, yes. If you call guards when there are no criminals about, the guard warn you about calling them needlessly or facing consequences, but I have never seen them enforce that. Plus you are pretty safe spamming guards anyway, since chances are there is someone nearby who is flagged criminal, even if they hit someone once accidentally 30 minutes earlier because of lag, they could still be killed.
At least a guard instantly teleports in and one shots you now. When I was playing earlier, you just died. Not that a teleporting one shotter is much better. I have seen instances of someone standing in the bank spamming guards hoping to kill someone and loot them while they were trying to bank. I have also seen people spam guards at the res stone so people respawning instantly die again.
When will devs learn that putting in a flagging system of any kind, especially one so heavy handed as this one, does not prevent griefing, but merely adds to it. So much for a "hardcore" PvP environment. Worst part about it is if I get attacked, I can't even decide to just fight the guy because every wanker in range will yell guards to kill him before I get a chance to fight him back. And apparently attacking someone who just tried to pick my pocket flags me so in trying to prevent being stolen from, I get insta-killed too.
If the devs decide they must have guards in town, have actual wandering guards you can see. If you commit a crime in eyesight of them, let them attack. If you get away, you get away, but those guard will remember you. But in the next town, you don't have some magical "criminal flag" above your head that the guards there can see. This isn't the day of all point bulletins. Let players handle justice. If someone ganks you, post a bounty for him and let other players hunt the guy down. And don't let the interface tell me who the PKs are, make me remember names and guilds.
To this day, no one has handled FFA PvP as well as AC1 Darktide.
Oh I thought the lack of stuff to do was a feature, like no quests! Great features like no quests, random gazelles, and lag are all integrated (???) part of the game that no other MMORPG has to offer and can only lead to its success!
This is awesome... Gazelle attacks me in town, I called guards, gazelle is executed...
Then after another gazelle spawned in the town, I attacked it first and the guards killed me...
Criminal Gazelle? Those guards are just bugged lol.
No the gazelle is someones pet, you can tell by the blue flag it has. Wild animals all have a grey flag. If you attack someones pet its the same as attacking the owner.
Also if the owner is within a certain range they get a chat message whenever their pet does somethign liek respond to beingattacked. so they can call guards and the attacker can get g-wacked. Also if someone sets their pet to attack someone then you can call guards and get the pet killed.
End of day, Op got attacked by someones pet in town and called guards and got the gazelle killed then Op saw another gazelle in town and attacked it and because that was the pet of a blue player, he went grey and called guards and the guards killed him for attacking someones pet.
Man those grafics sucks is this game realy made with unreal3 or was it unreal1 engine?
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Im glad you come back to necro month old threads to show your intelligence inferno. Learn to play.
Necro? What does that mean? What do you mean "learn to play" I am playing the game and I found bugs.
It means resurrecting a quiet thread from a while ago (in this case, about a month) with a post that places it on the front page. Y'know, necro... necromancy... zombie... raised from the dead... but I'll admit, I have no idea what an "intelligence inferno" is.
It means resurrecting a quiet thread from a while ago (in this case, about a month) with a post that places it on the front page. Y'know, necro... necromancy... zombie... raised from the dead... but I'll admit, I have no idea what an "intelligence inferno" is.
When the problems are still occuring? Why would I make another thread about the same issues when this one is already there?
Im glad you come back to necro month old threads to show your intelligence inferno. Learn to play.
Necro? What does that mean? What do you mean "learn to play" I am playing the game and I found bugs.
It means resurrecting a quiet thread from a while ago (in this case, about a month) with a post that places it on the front page. Y'know, necro... necromancy... zombie... raised from the dead... but I'll admit, I have no idea what an "intelligence inferno" is.
rlmccoy1987 goes by the name inferno on some other message boards. The sentence should have read
"Im glad you come back to necro month old threads to show your intelligence, inferno."
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you can hold block and attack to push people, you dont get flagged by that.
After a few hours of getting killed by the guards for attacking that gazelle. I logged back in, I was grey. i rezzed eventually as there were a ton of people killing the priest over and over and over... I returned to the city, typed out "guards" AND I KILLED MYSELF! The guards attacked me and I died.
hahah
this is funny - - - and enlightening
i got killed by a guard tonight and wasn't sure why
i attacked someones chicken apparently - - - i thought they were there for target practice or something but i guess i was wrong
pretty cool i say
i'm just glad i wasn't carrying much
Geeze.
Hope they don't have small ant hills in the game... Would hate to think what would happen if you accidentally stepped on one.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
If you are grey (your screenshot shows it) and call guards the guards will kill you for being a criminal. Like a drug dealer calling the cops with a warant out on them.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
I hope you have learned your lesson!
seriously though, people need to read up and undertstand how MO flagging system actually works before they start bitching.
You cant spam "guards". After calling them 4 times without any criminal arround you get killed by them.
I would have reported you but someone else already did
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I think it is great to finally have another UO style flagging system. Some people should really read the manual before jumping into a PvP centric MMO =]
I cant wait to get a new rig so I can play.
Play a role! Shadowclan
I don't know if much has changed since the last stress test (my gaming computer needs a new PSU), but I had the same problems with "push and guards". A guy went on kicking me with his shield, and I thought that would be an aggressive act, but since tab-ing works so badly, I could not see his flag (and didn't even know his name). So I axed him once, and a dude called "guards" and I went to the afterlife.
My main issue with the game is clearly the GUI. I need to identify names on the players (and NPCs) more easier and I need to know if I am in a fight or we are just "playing around", since it can influence my flagging. And the chat didn't work for me, or I don't how to use it (if I have to press a button). I could care less about the other issues with the game, if this was fixed.
What manual? Ahh the one that came with the discs...wait no. The one easily found in a pdf format...wait not there either. Countless wading through pointless posts to get to one of substance...yep thats the winner. I am all for figuring stuff out but when there is no real documentation then some will have questions that the community has to answer. So much is trial and error that the only folks one can rely on is the community.
look at this webpage (same one you downloaded the client from) and see if there is anything that hints at being a guide...
www.mortalonline.com/downloadbeta
not like there are 2 links to a guide in different formats or anything...
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
If it was someone's pet the pet owner would have said "guards" which they did not do, look at the chat log in the pictures. Because the owner did not say anything, that means the gazelle called guards or the system is bugged. Remember if you attack blues in a town, they must call guards for you to die.
No anyone could have called guards. The person who called them could have been out of speaking range but still in guard range. So the person taking the screen may not have seen who called guards but if a guard showed up someone called them.
Whenever your pet attacks someone, either from being attacked or being ordered to attack the owner gets a message " <petname> will attack <person name>"
If you diddn't order your pet to attack and you get that message and say guards you don't have to be within talking range of the attacker. You have to be in the same guard zone and within guard range.
Bad system from how your explaining it. I could sit there with a macro and call guards every x seconds (x as in time that it doesn't stack) and just kill people randomly?
Basically, yes. If you call guards when there are no criminals about, the guard warn you about calling them needlessly or facing consequences, but I have never seen them enforce that. Plus you are pretty safe spamming guards anyway, since chances are there is someone nearby who is flagged criminal, even if they hit someone once accidentally 30 minutes earlier because of lag, they could still be killed.
At least a guard instantly teleports in and one shots you now. When I was playing earlier, you just died. Not that a teleporting one shotter is much better. I have seen instances of someone standing in the bank spamming guards hoping to kill someone and loot them while they were trying to bank. I have also seen people spam guards at the res stone so people respawning instantly die again.
When will devs learn that putting in a flagging system of any kind, especially one so heavy handed as this one, does not prevent griefing, but merely adds to it. So much for a "hardcore" PvP environment. Worst part about it is if I get attacked, I can't even decide to just fight the guy because every wanker in range will yell guards to kill him before I get a chance to fight him back. And apparently attacking someone who just tried to pick my pocket flags me so in trying to prevent being stolen from, I get insta-killed too.
If the devs decide they must have guards in town, have actual wandering guards you can see. If you commit a crime in eyesight of them, let them attack. If you get away, you get away, but those guard will remember you. But in the next town, you don't have some magical "criminal flag" above your head that the guards there can see. This isn't the day of all point bulletins. Let players handle justice. If someone ganks you, post a bounty for him and let other players hunt the guy down. And don't let the interface tell me who the PKs are, make me remember names and guilds.
To this day, no one has handled FFA PvP as well as AC1 Darktide.
to OP, tammed gazzelle
in fact easy way to scam ppl , . u see a littl pig in town hit it and die
Oh I thought the lack of stuff to do was a feature, like no quests! Great features like no quests, random gazelles, and lag are all integrated (???) part of the game that no other MMORPG has to offer and can only lead to its success!
(All sarcasm intended.)
Pepsi1028
PEPSI!!!!!
Get out of your box already...
Criminal Gazelle? Those guards are just bugged lol.
Criminal Gazelle? Those guards are just bugged lol.
No the gazelle is someones pet, you can tell by the blue flag it has. Wild animals all have a grey flag. If you attack someones pet its the same as attacking the owner.
Also if the owner is within a certain range they get a chat message whenever their pet does somethign liek respond to beingattacked. so they can call guards and the attacker can get g-wacked. Also if someone sets their pet to attack someone then you can call guards and get the pet killed.
End of day, Op got attacked by someones pet in town and called guards and got the gazelle killed then Op saw another gazelle in town and attacked it and because that was the pet of a blue player, he went grey and called guards and the guards killed him for attacking someones pet.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
Why peoples EVEN bother AND PAY for crap game like that is beyond me. And after they come here to whine, give me a break.
I am not whining, I thought it was funny... and broken at the same time...
Man those grafics sucks is this game realy made with unreal3 or was it unreal1 engine?
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Unreal3
Guard kills grey rabbit, info in OP.
Necro? What does that mean? What do you mean "learn to play" I am playing the game and I found bugs.
It means resurrecting a quiet thread from a while ago (in this case, about a month) with a post that places it on the front page. Y'know, necro... necromancy... zombie... raised from the dead... but I'll admit, I have no idea what an "intelligence inferno" is.
It means resurrecting a quiet thread from a while ago (in this case, about a month) with a post that places it on the front page. Y'know, necro... necromancy... zombie... raised from the dead... but I'll admit, I have no idea what an "intelligence inferno" is.
When the problems are still occuring? Why would I make another thread about the same issues when this one is already there?
Slapshot you made a post but I can't see it...
Necro? What does that mean? What do you mean "learn to play" I am playing the game and I found bugs.
It means resurrecting a quiet thread from a while ago (in this case, about a month) with a post that places it on the front page. Y'know, necro... necromancy... zombie... raised from the dead... but I'll admit, I have no idea what an "intelligence inferno" is.
rlmccoy1987 goes by the name inferno on some other message boards. The sentence should have read
"Im glad you come back to necro month old threads to show your intelligence, inferno."