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Insta-killer guards hacked

RaknarRaknar Member Posts: 192

So some people have managed to hack the game and take control of the insta-kill, teleport-in guards. They have used them to Spam website links, and also to kill of the entire population of towns instantly, both flagged and non-flagged players. And any thread about it gets locked. Please tell me again how this game is not gonna crash and burn?

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  • patrikd23patrikd23 Member UncommonPosts: 1,155



    Good thing they figured out how to do it in open beta and not final release. That way the devs can figure out how to fix it before release of the game.

    And another thing also, a few friends of mine been harvesting alot. And another guy managed to hack his way into the house and steal all the materials they collected from storage it seems.

    And this is why games have open and closed beta. Just feel sad for my friends that put down over 10 days or more harvesting and then some cold hearted guy hacks in to steal all their work.

  • RaknarRaknar Member Posts: 192

    The very fact it is possible to gain admin level access shows the underlying core is broken beyond belief. They are not gonna simply fix this with a few code tweaks. Especially given that they are almost at launch and most of the other basic features are still either absent or broken as well.

  • adralaadrala Member Posts: 148

     You dont know what is happening,

    Only devs know.

    Stop spreading unease and speculations.

     

    The topics are getting closed becouse devs already know about it and are working on it.

    When devs or mods post what coused this and how then we can discuss it.

    Untill then all you do is speculate and assume...which is leading you nowhere.

  • DeltorDeltor Member Posts: 47

    Or it could be as simple as they didn't bother to put in appropriate server-checks. Its a common, yet disappointing oversight by the Producers though. Same with Cryptic leaving in QA respec and laser color changing commands without the proper authenications. If this is the situation then it should be easy to fix. If not, then code rewrite!

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  • RaknarRaknar Member Posts: 192
    Originally posted by adrala


     You dont know what is happening,
    Only devs know.
    Stop spreading unease and speculations.
     
    The topics are getting closed becouse devs already know about it and are working on it.
    When devs or mods post what coused this and how then we can discuss it.
    Untill then all you do is speculate and assume...which is leading you nowhere.



     

    Closing the threads about it only make people post another thread, making the front page of the site dominated by said threads. Alowwing people to discuss it would help to keep it in a few threads rather than a shitload. But that is what happens when a company just promotes the biggest fanboys to be mods rather than having actual CS people on staff to do it.

     

    Posting about a major hole in the security of the game on a related board is not "spreading unease and speculation". People who blindly defend a game no matter what are the reason broken piles of poo keep getting released.

  • adralaadrala Member Posts: 148

     There were multiple threads already before the mods started to lock them down. Please inform yourself becouse again you are showing your ignorance about the matter discussed.

     

    What may seem a huge security break might be just a flaw that needs one line of code. Beta is for testing the game. If these issue got hunted down during beta I dont see the problem.

     

    FInally you know you can leave this "broken pile of poo" and never come back, dont you?

  • NatarayaNataraya Member Posts: 78

    Rknar, u must rlly dislike SV´s chese damn, putting lot of energy against this game imo;

    been testing 2 months now, never saw such insta killer guards bug ,either heared about, its true thou game needs evolution, but i would say same about every other mmo that launched in last 4 years (yeah, and still u find ppl who dont understand that it must be hard as hell to put everything  on place so u can enjoy ur laggfreepvporwhatever).

    What i did saw arround MO, is ppl complaining like this was another mainstream mmo fail (pls remember "indie company" concept), i have also seen loads of openbetatesters ::P complaining about broken mechanics or shitty game without even knowing game mech or even core features of game (no seems ur case true), complaining about lag when this was exactly what SV was testing, forums have been flooded by newcomers (always welcome ofc, as i was 1 day) asking to take away ghost mode, local bank, drop equip when die,, to implement instatravel, i may suggest not all games need to be copycats .

    Small company is trying to create unique game, lot of ppl feel very touched and listened, from my expertice i would say i enjoyed more last 2 months of MO than most of MMO´s i ever played (no need to mention the huge importance of the participating community u can find in MO), i think u may like it or not but no need to stick with it if u dont like, pass on, we will salute u.

    PS: Oh + content!

  • RaknarRaknar Member Posts: 192

    But watching the trainwreck is far more fun than leaving and never coming back.

     

    Joking aside, the game needs people to point out problems more than it needs people to blindly defend it. And telling people to leave and never come back is rather counter-productive. Especially in an already niche game.

  • KruulKruul Member UncommonPosts: 482

    Wow, have not heard of something this bad since the DAOC-Europe servers got hacked and someone spawned a dragon in the PK

  • AmonSulAmonSul Member Posts: 80

    If this was after release then I would be really worried. But this is beta so relax.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,724
    Originally posted by AmonSul


    If this was after release then I would be really worried. But this is beta so relax.



     

    Yes.. did everyone forget that the Miracle Patch is on the way?  First half is actually Monday.. then next Monday the real big miracle patch that we have all been waiting for.  Have no fear, all is well!

     

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by AmonSul


    If this was after release then I would be really worried. But this is beta so relax.

     

    Problem is Dupes and Hacks have existed for months , yet still aren't fixed.  (been reported)

     

    SV its too busy fixing/rebuiding the game to do anything about it.  Even if they had time, I question thier ability to do so.

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • KostKost Member CommonPosts: 1,975
    Originally posted by Raknar


    The very fact it is possible to gain admin level access shows the underlying core is broken beyond belief. They are not gonna simply fix this with a few code tweaks. Especially given that they are almost at launch and most of the other basic features are still either absent or broken as well.

     

    I'm inclined to agree, a vulnerability of this magnitude is extremely serious, and should not be a problem at this stage of development.

    More fuel for the fire in terms of why it would be a sound decision to wait this out and see how the game fares after it launches and has had some time to evolve.

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798

     As despicable as these acts are, they're important, because they drive change and improvement.  ShowEQ affected MMO security, policies and even features in EQ and other games that followed.  Please note, I'm not justifying the acts nor do I approve of them, but when they happen, they need to be analysed and addressed.

    ~Ripper

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,724

    New guy...(or same guy different name) running around insta-killing everyone in town.  Not guards but just making all his attacks kill people.  Also teleport/speedhacking appears.  not talking one or two kills.. I'm talking the whole town.

    Town is Meduli

     

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by AmonSul


    If this was after release then I would be really worried. But this is beta so relax.

     

    Problem is Dupes and Hacks have existed for months , yet still aren't fixed.  (been reported)

     

    SV its too busy fixing/rebuiding the game to do anything about it.  Even if they had time, I question thier ability to do so.

     

    This 100%

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by rhinok


     As despicable as these acts are, they're important, because they drive change and improvement.  ShowEQ affected MMO security, policies and even features in EQ and other games that followed.  Please note, I'm not justifying the acts nor do I approve of them, but when they happen, they need to be analysed and addressed.
    ~Ripper

     

    What do the 'acts" have to do with SV ability to secure thier game?  Its not like this is a new development...

     

    There are no security protocols in MO other than reporting someone.

     

    This hack has happened well before Open Beta

    www.mortalonline.com/forums/34378-hacking-exploiting-weekend.html#post725806

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558

    current guard system is a placeholder anyways but they will get it fixed

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Raknar

    Originally posted by downtoearth


    current guard system is a placeholder anyways but they will get it fixed



    snip

     

    umm the skill book system isnt a palceholder anymore niether is the crafting only thing i know of is the magic guards and combat.. the pve isnt evenin yet just some mobs. 

    [Mod edit]

     

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,724
    Originally posted by downtoearth


    umm the skill book system isnt a palceholder anymore niether is the crafting only thing i know of is the magic guards and combat.. the pve isnt evenin yet just some mobs. 
    [Mod edit]

     



     

    Actually yes... many of the skill books are placeholders that were just tossed in to buy time.  They said you won't need to buy books for many of the simple things.

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by downtoearth


    umm the skill book system isnt a palceholder anymore niether is the crafting only thing i know of is the magic guards and combat.. the pve isnt evenin yet just some mobs. 
    [Mod edit]

     



     

    Actually yes... many of the skill books are placeholders that were just tossed in to buy time.  They said you won't need to buy books for many of the simple things.

     

    Also, weren't they meant to be a workaround (failed) for the database issues?

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by downtoearth


    umm the skill book system isnt a palceholder anymore niether is the crafting only thing i know of is the magic guards and combat.. the pve isnt evenin yet just some mobs. 
    [Mod edit]

     



     

    Actually yes... many of the skill books are placeholders that were just tossed in to buy time.  They said you won't need to buy books for many of the simple things.



     

    maybe i misssed that

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by AmonSul


    If this was after release then I would be really worried. But this is beta so relax.

     

    Problem is Dupes and Hacks have existed for months , yet still aren't fixed.  (been reported)

     

    SV its too busy fixing/rebuiding the game to do anything about it.  Even if they had time, I question thier ability to do so.

     

    This 100%



     

    some of this is caused by the Db lagging

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by AmonSul


    If this was after release then I would be really worried. But this is beta so relax.

     

    Problem is Dupes and Hacks have existed for months , yet still aren't fixed.  (been reported)

     

    SV its too busy fixing/rebuiding the game to do anything about it.  Even if they had time, I question thier ability to do so.

     

    This 100%



     

    some of this is caused by the Db lagging

     

    and some of it isn't ...

     

    Your point???

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by AmonSul


    If this was after release then I would be really worried. But this is beta so relax.

     

    Problem is Dupes and Hacks have existed for months , yet still aren't fixed.  (been reported)

     

    SV its too busy fixing/rebuiding the game to do anything about it.  Even if they had time, I question thier ability to do so.

     

    This 100%



     

    some of this is caused by the Db lagging

     

    and some of it isn't ...

     

    Your point???



     

    they have other devs working on it..

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