I think everyone who had ever thought about it realized that at some point all games(and most likely music/movie software as well) were going to swtich to a internet constant connection verification. It's a clear step in anti-piracy and all industries are pushing forward with streaming technology. So within a decade all games/music/movies are going to stream anyways which will require a constant internet connection.
And when it still fails to stave off piracy, I wonder what they're gonna try, next.
Exactly.
If there is one thing that hasn't been learned yet, despite repeated failures to curtail piracy, is that the pirates are always one step ahead of the solution. If this goes live, there will be a crack for it in less than a week, and I'd put my money on less than 72 hours.
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Companies will never learn. People who pirate games are not going to buy your game no matter what you do. They are not your customers. Instituting insane schemes that piss off potential customers, the ones who actually would buy your game, to exclude a few miscreants who inevitably find a way around your ineffectual nonsense is incredibly counterproductive. Take reasonable measures and move on. If a few schmucks pirate it that costs you nothing.
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
Usually, when I play a "offline" single player game is when I dont have access to internet. so in the future, if I want to play a ubisoft game, ill just download an illegal version of it, with all that anti-piracy crap removed. because lets face it, this isnt gonna stop piracy. not in the slightest.
How about if you buy the game and apply the "fix" before you play?
I've had to do anti-CD "fixes" on games I've bought.
Well that's pretty crappy. Usually, if I'm playing a single player game, I'm playing it because I'm on my laptop and don't have an internet connection. I don't think it's going to take long for hackers to fix that issue anyway, so really what's the point?
That is pretty crappy.
I don't like the idea at all. Suppose a person wanted quit online games and just play single games and get rid of their internet?
It's not like the internet is a necessesity.
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Another thought: "and if your connection drops while you're playing for any reason, you'll be kicked out of the game and potentially lose your progress."
I wonder if they're gonna put it on a STO server...
Another thought: "and if your connection drops while you're playing for any reason, you'll be kicked out of the game and potentially lose your progress."
I wonder if they're gonna put it on a STO server...
Haha, thinking about it this could really be a step into turning every game similar to STO online functionalities (that make it look feeble compared to most "real" MMORPGs), not because it aims to be a MMORPG but because it aims at making a monthly fee.
Don't buy the games. Teach them a lesson. Simple as that. When they see they've wasted their money producing the games, they'll either not make the mistake again or hopefully release a patch because I really wanted Ass Creed.
I did just that with the "Starforce" CP from a number of years back... remember that? Installing admin level drivers that piggyback onto your IDE controllers?
If a game had StarForce CP, I didn't play it. So I guess that means I've been boycotting Ubisoft without even knowing it.
Well that's pretty crappy. Usually, if I'm playing a single player game, I'm playing it because I'm on my laptop and don't have an internet connection. I don't think it's going to take long for hackers to fix that issue anyway, so really what's the point?
That is pretty crappy.
I don't like the idea at all. Suppose a person wanted quit online games and just play single games and get rid of their internet?
It's not like the internet is a necessesity.
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damn that really sux, i was really looking forward to Assassin's Creed 2. actually had it on pre-order from amazon. i'll cancel it for now and wait till some one cracks it. main reason being i mostly only play my offline games when the internet is out,or the power is out (play on my laptop) and i can't play what ever MMO i'm playing at the time. once some one cracks it (wich i'm sure will be done within a week or 2) i may pick it up because then i'll be able to play it on my laptop wich is never hooked to the internet.
but like everyone else in the thread has said this will not stop pirating of pc games at all.
going to sound a funny coincidence but i just downloaded a pirated copy the first Assassin's Creed last night. BUT i actually own it i have the dvd and case and all but its a little scratched up and wouldn't install. wich is odd its not THAT scratched up mostly light ones and not ALOT but it was stopping me from installing the game. its not keeping me from playing just wouldn't install. used the pirate copy to install but i didn't use the no cd thingy and i'm able to use the original dvd i bought years ago. but maybe once i get farther into the game it may freeze idk have to wait and see i guess. it was the last dvd copy of a game i have bought,i just download from D2D and never worry about dvds getting scratched or losing them..lol had seen a commercial for Assassin's creed 2 the night before and made me wanna play the first one again.
Companies will never learn. People who pirate games are not going to buy your game no matter what you do. They are not your customers. Instituting insane schemes that piss off potential customers, the ones who actually would buy your game, to exclude a few miscreants who inevitably find a way around your ineffectual nonsense is incredibly counterproductive. Take reasonable measures and move on. If a few schmucks pirate it that costs you nothing.
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
ah the good old times when one single game make me play it just for the fun of jumping crocodiles or over logs, kill aliens with my ship, or just save divers on my submarine, then in the late 80 when I really have to put some effort to see the damn ending of gauntlet because the pass would only till the start of the last lvl and I couldn't die later and the last boss was a pain to kill, later in the 90 I still have good games who are still a challenge or rpg games I really need lvl 70 or 80 to kill the last boss and even if I get max lvl its was still a challenge.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
now I can download from the internet if the game is good enough I pay for it of not? well next (also i'm not paying for games I can finish in less then 2 days of play playing on the hardest lvl possible)
i really do not understand why they dont do how THQ/relic did with CoH. they put in an account DB that you logged in to. withit you didnt need a CD to play. without it you needed the cd. (tho im sure there are no-CD fixes to hack that...still it worked more or less)
im a huge fan of the settlers THO the newer ones really really SUCK... i actually pirate the last one to try it out. as the one before really set me against ever playing settlers above settlers 3.. im not really for piracy. but at the same time, i cant afford to keep going out and buying $30-60 games i dont enjoy again and again... i made the mistake of buying the RTS Mayday.... BOY i wish i had pirated that one... WORST game i have ever played.. cant even trade it in at gamespot/EB for more then a cup coaster...
main thing is, i dont like playing online vs players much (too many Aholes that get an elitest mentality..) having to keep a steady net connection is a pain in the backside (yes i have high speed cable, yes its steady.. but even that has its outages... had to replace my cable and have work done in the street by my ISP to fix my droppage. plus new router O_O) so having to play SP with a netconnecting is a pain. on top of that im not the only one using my net. SO really this anti-piracy junk while sounding like it will fix all the pirate problems the world faces... wont work..
give a week-1 month pirates will have a fix for it 1 week at release there will be a full download/rip T_T so really the only people put off by the anti-cheat are legal buyers.
i got the sims games for stuff to play when i have no net, plus who really likes playing ONLINE 24/7... we spend soo much time in MMOS and steam FPS... its nice to play AOE2 or EE 2 or something SP without worrying if my net will drop and ill lose my game
on a random note.. not to promote piracy but im thankful to some pirates who still host old games, its very hard to find some of the good classics like Worm 3d and such in a store or online to buy but you can still find some pirated copies online... which while ethnically wrong is still nice for that option
Companies will never learn. People who pirate games are not going to buy your game no matter what you do. They are not your customers. Instituting insane schemes that piss off potential customers, the ones who actually would buy your game, to exclude a few miscreants who inevitably find a way around your ineffectual nonsense is incredibly counterproductive. Take reasonable measures and move on. If a few schmucks pirate it that costs you nothing.
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
only reason we don't want this is we don't want to be bound to a will of a 3rd party after I paid for something,
This is my major issue with this. I think it will encourage law abiding customers to find a crack for their legitimately purchased games, which makes them more vulnerable to viruses, which then in turn negatively effects us all.
It's at odds with the American ideal of OWNERSHIP, which is, when I buy something, I OWN it. I buy a cd, and it works until it breaks, which is determined by how I treat it. Same with a car. If I buy a game DVD and 3 months from now, their server goes offline and I can't play, there's a problem.
If buying an Ubisoft game means I don't own it, I'm not gonna buy it.
yep f2p has been having this same problem with american market!its like golum in the movie lotr
It's real simple in my book! I pay for it it's mine! If game companies try to control what I bought after I pay for it, well I won't buy their product. Money for a product is an equal exchange....not some Obamaesque..economic game wherer he can jsut do what he pleases cause he thinks he has the right...
this doesnt affect your gameplay in any ways and the false argument about what if something goes wrong!i lost internet in quebec one time (since they probably use videotron.their system is even more robust (strong)
lol it wont they ve been here in montreal for a long time and they ve also been in other citys in the world for a while
they made prince of persia ,they made ass creed etc i cannot even begin to name all the freaking top title they made
Companies will never learn. People who pirate games are not going to buy your game no matter what you do. They are not your customers. Instituting insane schemes that piss off potential customers, the ones who actually would buy your game, to exclude a few miscreants who inevitably find a way around your ineffectual nonsense is incredibly counterproductive. Take reasonable measures and move on. If a few schmucks pirate it that costs you nothing.
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
well i'm old school XD 26 years on my back and the atari was from my father XD I only get my nintendo on the 88 or 90 i'm not sure 93 was my super nintendo.
but really sometimes I miss the old days(damn i'm getting old :P). for now I just hope they fail and fail hard, but before that I will try and see how it worked XD, what can I say i'm a programmer and like to learn from the other people mistakes
It's real simple in my book! I pay for it it's mine! If game companies try to control what I bought after I pay for it, well I won't buy their product. Money for a product is an equal exchange....not some Obamaesque..economic game wherer he can jsut do what he pleases cause he thinks he has the right...
this doesnt affect your gameplay in any ways and the false argument about what if something goes wrong!
lol it wont they ve been here in montreal for a long time and they ve also been in other citys in the world for a while
they made prince of persia ,they made ass creed etc i cannot even begin to name all the freaking top title they made
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!
sorry for the double post, but
yes they know, remember me when they lauched shadowbane,
and if you really think its do not affect your gameplay just because you live next to they HQ, when we are thinking globally and saying not everyone lives on your country, we can see what start to fail here
Companies will never learn. People who pirate games are not going to buy your game no matter what you do. They are not your customers. Instituting insane schemes that piss off potential customers, the ones who actually would buy your game, to exclude a few miscreants who inevitably find a way around your ineffectual nonsense is incredibly counterproductive. Take reasonable measures and move on. If a few schmucks pirate it that costs you nothing.
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
well i'm old school XD 26 years on my back and the atari was from my father XD I only get my nintendo on the 88 or 90 i'm not sure 93 was my super nintendo.
but really sometimes I miss the old days(damn i'm getting old :P). for now I just hope they fail and fail hard, but before that I will try and see how it worked XD, what can I say i'm a programmer and like to learn from the other people mistakes
grin!yes on days like today i miss good old tetris attack(supernintendo)
only reason we don't want this is we don't want to be bound to a will of a 3rd party after I paid for something,
This is my major issue with this. I think it will encourage law abiding customers to find a crack for their legitimately purchased games, which makes them more vulnerable to viruses, which then in turn negatively effects us all.
It's at odds with the American ideal of OWNERSHIP, which is, when I buy something, I OWN it. I buy a cd, and it works until it breaks, which is determined by how I treat it. Same with a car. If I buy a game DVD and 3 months from now, their server goes offline and I can't play, there's a problem.
If buying an Ubisoft game means I don't own it, I'm not gonna buy it.
yep f2p has been having this same problem with american market!its like golum in the movie lotr
ITS MINE ,MY OWN ,MY PRECIOUS!grin!
they have stated on the UBIsoft website related to this issue, that IF they shut their service they will offer a patch that will allow you to run SP offline.... BUT i dont get why they dont offer that to begin with... offer online service and offline service. which inturn would lower the piracy/hacking of their game.
less reason to get a hack for the cheat protection
Companies will never learn. People who pirate games are not going to buy your game no matter what you do. They are not your customers. Instituting insane schemes that piss off potential customers, the ones who actually would buy your game, to exclude a few miscreants who inevitably find a way around your ineffectual nonsense is incredibly counterproductive. Take reasonable measures and move on. If a few schmucks pirate it that costs you nothing.
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
well i'm old school XD 26 years on my back and the atari was from my father XD I only get my nintendo on the 88 or 90 i'm not sure 93 was my super nintendo.
but really sometimes I miss the old days(damn i'm getting old :P). for now I just hope they fail and fail hard, but before that I will try and see how it worked XD, what can I say i'm a programmer and like to learn from the other people mistakes
Heh, if it makes you feel any better, I turn 26 this year. I got my NES with Super Mario Brothers for Christmas when I was 6 in 1990, and I'm starting to feel old compared to these kids who haven't even played any 2D games besides the flash games they play on Facebook.
It's so funny to watch developers shoot themselves in the foot like this. They cause more hardship for their legitimate customers than they ever will for pirates.
People who would normally buy the game legally will now instead download a cracked version off a P2P site, in order to avoid the draconian copy protection scheme. Systems like this are completely counter-productive.
Some people will say of course " if it helps prevent piracy, I'm all for it!" or some such nonsense. What you don't get is that it DOESN'T prevent piracy.....at all. In fact, some groups will have the game up for download the day of release, if not before, completely stripped of it's copy-protection.
It's so funny to watch developers shoot themselves in the foot like this. They cause more hardship for their legitimate customers than they ever will for pirates. People who would normally buy the game legally will now instead download a cracked version off a P2P site, in order to avoid the draconian copy protection scheme. Systems like this are completely counter-productive. Some people will say of course " if it helps prevent piracy, I'm all for it!" or some such nonsense. What you don't get is that it DOESN'T prevent piracy.....at all. In fact, some groups will have the game up for download the day of release, if not before, completely stripped of it's copy-protection. The paying customer gets screwed.
exactly lol and since its a known big title theyl have this cracked on release day or before even since there are some real pros out there that can do anything hell there are people already working on creating lan mode on starcraft 2 so i doubt this little protection is gonna be anything but trouble for people who buy the game
It's so funny to watch developers shoot themselves in the foot like this. They cause more hardship for their legitimate customers than they ever will for pirates. People who would normally buy the game legally will now instead download a cracked version off a P2P site, in order to avoid the draconian copy protection scheme. Systems like this are completely counter-productive. Some people will say of course " if it helps prevent piracy, I'm all for it!" or some such nonsense. What you don't get is that it DOESN'T prevent piracy.....at all. In fact, some groups will have the game up for download the day of release, if not before, completely stripped of it's copy-protection. The paying customer gets screwed.
It's not even about piracy, that's what most of the sheeple don't get.
This is about opening the door to making all of gaming subscription-based. And the masses will probably fall for it because they're too lazy to go to the store and buy a box (ownership) when they can have digital downloads (i.e. rent games).
Not goning to read through this thread as I have seen a hundred of them today and they all say the same thing. If the gaming community showed the same level of outrage at piracy we would not see the need for these kind of protection systems. The igly truth ias that computer gamers have encouraged a community of thieves. I have heard all the various arugments but no amount of justification makes a thief less a thief. The companies putting these protection schemes on their games are not nealry as much to blaim as the gaming community itself which not only looks the other way at piracy but openly encoruages it.
The only thieves are the ones who are already rich beyond measure and still try to bend the hard working man over.
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And when it still fails to stave off piracy, I wonder what they're gonna try, next.
Exactly.
If there is one thing that hasn't been learned yet, despite repeated failures to curtail piracy, is that the pirates are always one step ahead of the solution. If this goes live, there will be a crack for it in less than a week, and I'd put my money on less than 72 hours.
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I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
How about if you buy the game and apply the "fix" before you play?
I've had to do anti-CD "fixes" on games I've bought.
No pirating involved...
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That is pretty crappy.
I don't like the idea at all. Suppose a person wanted quit online games and just play single games and get rid of their internet?
It's not like the internet is a necessesity.
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I wonder if they're gonna put it on a STO server...
I wonder if they're gonna put it on a STO server...
Haha, thinking about it this could really be a step into turning every game similar to STO online functionalities (that make it look feeble compared to most "real" MMORPGs), not because it aims to be a MMORPG but because it aims at making a monthly fee.
I did just that with the "Starforce" CP from a number of years back... remember that? Installing admin level drivers that piggyback onto your IDE controllers?
If a game had StarForce CP, I didn't play it. So I guess that means I've been boycotting Ubisoft without even knowing it.
That is pretty crappy.
I don't like the idea at all. Suppose a person wanted quit online games and just play single games and get rid of their internet?
It's not like the internet is a necessesity.
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damn that really sux, i was really looking forward to Assassin's Creed 2. actually had it on pre-order from amazon. i'll cancel it for now and wait till some one cracks it. main reason being i mostly only play my offline games when the internet is out,or the power is out (play on my laptop) and i can't play what ever MMO i'm playing at the time. once some one cracks it (wich i'm sure will be done within a week or 2) i may pick it up because then i'll be able to play it on my laptop wich is never hooked to the internet.
but like everyone else in the thread has said this will not stop pirating of pc games at all.
going to sound a funny coincidence but i just downloaded a pirated copy the first Assassin's Creed last night. BUT i actually own it i have the dvd and case and all but its a little scratched up and wouldn't install. wich is odd its not THAT scratched up mostly light ones and not ALOT but it was stopping me from installing the game. its not keeping me from playing just wouldn't install. used the pirate copy to install but i didn't use the no cd thingy and i'm able to use the original dvd i bought years ago. but maybe once i get farther into the game it may freeze idk have to wait and see i guess. it was the last dvd copy of a game i have bought,i just download from D2D and never worry about dvds getting scratched or losing them..lol had seen a commercial for Assassin's creed 2 the night before and made me wanna play the first one again.
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
ah the good old times when one single game make me play it just for the fun of jumping crocodiles or over logs, kill aliens with my ship, or just save divers on my submarine, then in the late 80 when I really have to put some effort to see the damn ending of gauntlet because the pass would only till the start of the last lvl and I couldn't die later and the last boss was a pain to kill, later in the 90 I still have good games who are still a challenge or rpg games I really need lvl 70 or 80 to kill the last boss and even if I get max lvl its was still a challenge.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
now I can download from the internet if the game is good enough I pay for it of not? well next (also i'm not paying for games I can finish in less then 2 days of play playing on the hardest lvl possible)
i really do not understand why they dont do how THQ/relic did with CoH. they put in an account DB that you logged in to. withit you didnt need a CD to play. without it you needed the cd. (tho im sure there are no-CD fixes to hack that...still it worked more or less)
im a huge fan of the settlers THO the newer ones really really SUCK... i actually pirate the last one to try it out. as the one before really set me against ever playing settlers above settlers 3.. im not really for piracy. but at the same time, i cant afford to keep going out and buying $30-60 games i dont enjoy again and again... i made the mistake of buying the RTS Mayday.... BOY i wish i had pirated that one... WORST game i have ever played..
cant even trade it in at gamespot/EB for more then a cup coaster...
main thing is, i dont like playing online vs players much (too many Aholes that get an elitest mentality..) having to keep a steady net connection is a pain in the backside (yes i have high speed cable, yes its steady.. but even that has its outages... had to replace my cable and have work done in the street by my ISP to fix my droppage. plus new router O_O) so having to play SP with a netconnecting is a pain. on top of that im not the only one using my net. SO really this anti-piracy junk while sounding like it will fix all the pirate problems the world faces... wont work..
give a week-1 month pirates will have a fix for it
1 week at release there will be a full download/rip T_T so really the only people put off by the anti-cheat are legal buyers.
i got the sims games for stuff to play when i have no net, plus who really likes playing ONLINE 24/7... we spend soo much time in MMOS and steam FPS... its nice to play AOE2 or EE 2 or something SP without worrying if my net will drop and ill lose my game
on a random note.. not to promote piracy but im thankful to some pirates who still host old games, its very hard to find some of the good classics like Worm 3d and such in a store or online to buy but you can still find some pirated copies online... which while ethnically wrong is still nice for that option
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
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This is my major issue with this. I think it will encourage law abiding customers to find a crack for their legitimately purchased games, which makes them more vulnerable to viruses, which then in turn negatively effects us all.
It's at odds with the American ideal of OWNERSHIP, which is, when I buy something, I OWN it. I buy a cd, and it works until it breaks, which is determined by how I treat it. Same with a car. If I buy a game DVD and 3 months from now, their server goes offline and I can't play, there's a problem.
If buying an Ubisoft game means I don't own it, I'm not gonna buy it.
yep f2p has been having this same problem with american market!its like golum in the movie lotr
ITS MINE ,MY OWN ,MY PRECIOUS!grin!
this doesnt affect your gameplay in any ways and the false argument about what if something goes wrong!i lost internet in quebec one time (since they probably use videotron.their system is even more robust (strong)
lol it wont they ve been here in montreal for a long time and they ve also been in other citys in the world for a while
they made prince of persia ,they made ass creed etc i cannot even begin to name all the freaking top title they made
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
well i'm old school XD 26 years on my back and the atari was from my father XD I only get my nintendo on the 88 or 90 i'm not sure 93 was my super nintendo.
but really sometimes I miss the old days(damn i'm getting old :P). for now I just hope they fail and fail hard, but before that I will try and see how it worked XD, what can I say i'm a programmer and like to learn from the other people mistakes
this doesnt affect your gameplay in any ways and the false argument about what if something goes wrong!
lol it wont they ve been here in montreal for a long time and they ve also been in other citys in the world for a while
they made prince of persia ,they made ass creed etc i cannot even begin to name all the freaking top title they made
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!
sorry for the double post, but
yes they know, remember me when they lauched shadowbane,
and if you really think its do not affect your gameplay just because you live next to they HQ, when we are thinking globally and saying not everyone lives on your country, we can see what start to fail here
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
well i'm old school XD 26 years on my back and the atari was from my father XD I only get my nintendo on the 88 or 90 i'm not sure 93 was my super nintendo.
but really sometimes I miss the old days(damn i'm getting old :P). for now I just hope they fail and fail hard, but before that I will try and see how it worked XD, what can I say i'm a programmer and like to learn from the other people mistakes
grin!yes on days like today i miss good old tetris attack(supernintendo)
This is my major issue with this. I think it will encourage law abiding customers to find a crack for their legitimately purchased games, which makes them more vulnerable to viruses, which then in turn negatively effects us all.
It's at odds with the American ideal of OWNERSHIP, which is, when I buy something, I OWN it. I buy a cd, and it works until it breaks, which is determined by how I treat it. Same with a car. If I buy a game DVD and 3 months from now, their server goes offline and I can't play, there's a problem.
If buying an Ubisoft game means I don't own it, I'm not gonna buy it.
yep f2p has been having this same problem with american market!its like golum in the movie lotr
ITS MINE ,MY OWN ,MY PRECIOUS!grin!
they have stated on the UBIsoft website related to this issue, that IF they shut their service they will offer a patch that will allow you to run SP offline.... BUT i dont get why they dont offer that to begin with... offer online service and offline service. which inturn would lower the piracy/hacking of their game.
less reason to get a hack for the cheat protection
So... much... fail... from... so... many... game... developers...
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since its a big title someone will hack and crack it so im not worried
I've pirated games to use that as a trial. If the game is worthy of my money, I go buy it. If it's not worthy of my money, it usually ends up getting deleted anyway.
Most recently, I did that to Borderlands. Pirated it first, played till about lvl 15 and went and bought it. I've also done that to Fallout 3 and a few others.
Demos are crap, they usually show you a tiny portion of the game that's actually fun and cut you off right before the crap fest starts back up.
I'm probably rare though. I've met a few people like me, but most are what you said. I just believe in supporting what I think is good. Just doing my small part to help keep the gaming and software industry on the right track. You give me quality, I will give you my money.
I can't imagine how you gamed in the 80's-90's. Did you only purchase games that were on store display? Gaming is like going to a movie...sometimes you pay for crappy ones, and sometimes you get good ones. It's amazing how cheap this generation is.
back then I would rent the game first of see it on my friends place before I see if I could buy it, or just trade cartridges with my friends(hey let me borrow your super metroid, I borrow my rocking roll racing for it)
Exactly.
And technically, I wasn't a gamer till around '99 when I picked up my first MMO. I had better things to do. lol. Honestly, I don't think I really became a "gamer" until about '01 or '02. When I was a teenager, I could find things to do in the real world that were free or cost very little money. Not so much as I grew up. lol
The first 2 PC games I really played were Age of Empires and Heroes of Might and Magic III.
well i'm old school XD 26 years on my back and the atari was from my father XD I only get my nintendo on the 88 or 90 i'm not sure 93 was my super nintendo.
but really sometimes I miss the old days(damn i'm getting old :P). for now I just hope they fail and fail hard, but before that I will try and see how it worked XD, what can I say i'm a programmer and like to learn from the other people mistakes
Heh, if it makes you feel any better, I turn 26 this year. I got my NES with Super Mario Brothers for Christmas when I was 6 in 1990, and I'm starting to feel old compared to these kids who haven't even played any 2D games besides the flash games they play on Facebook.
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It's so funny to watch developers shoot themselves in the foot like this. They cause more hardship for their legitimate customers than they ever will for pirates.
People who would normally buy the game legally will now instead download a cracked version off a P2P site, in order to avoid the draconian copy protection scheme. Systems like this are completely counter-productive.
Some people will say of course " if it helps prevent piracy, I'm all for it!" or some such nonsense. What you don't get is that it DOESN'T prevent piracy.....at all. In fact, some groups will have the game up for download the day of release, if not before, completely stripped of it's copy-protection.
The paying customer gets screwed.
exactly lol and since its a known big title theyl have this cracked on release day or before even since there are some real pros out there that can do anything hell there are people already working on creating lan mode on starcraft 2 so i doubt this little protection is gonna be anything but trouble for people who buy the game
It's not even about piracy, that's what most of the sheeple don't get.
This is about opening the door to making all of gaming subscription-based. And the masses will probably fall for it because they're too lazy to go to the store and buy a box (ownership) when they can have digital downloads (i.e. rent games).
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The only thieves are the ones who are already rich beyond measure and still try to bend the hard working man over.
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