10 Reasons why Aion is the best mmo out today

Sudowoodoo

1) Its the number 2 mmo in the world already in terms of subscriptions

2) Its making innovations while other mmos stagnate and become repetitive

3) The PvP is the best mmos have to offer (especially rifts). Also nice zerg pvp if your comp can take it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR5Eb572wEI

4) Unmatched character customization

5) Excellent game design and mechanics (gliding, pvp, rifting ect.)

6) Beautiful environments

7) Always something to work for and improve upon

8) Scales well for lower end computers

9) Rewards hard work and dedication

10) Has more potential than any other mmo  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8

Toquio3

I know taste goes a long way, but not as far as this.

joker007mo

Originally posted by Toquio3


I know taste goes a long way, but not as far as this.

 

honestly i did want to find something there that was good but frankly none of that list even comes close to the game i played

StaticPT

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Nothing against Aion but for me it was a real delusion... Unfortunatly i spent 50€ on it

illanadan

 rofl...

You are entitled to your own opinion of Aion OP as am I.

Mine is this: It is a grind fest with so-so PvP that I might enjoy more if I happened to roam with a pack of people and gank. The graphics do look nice but I am burnt out on the whole asian style. There is nothing innovative really in here. People try to use the whole "flying" aspect as innovative, it isn't. Domo, Flyff, Perfect World, Dream of Mirror,etc... 

EricDanie

Originally posted by illanadan


 rofl...
You are entitled to your own opinion of Aion OP as am I.
Mine is this: It is a grind fest with so-so PvP that I might enjoy more if I happened to roam with a pack of people and gank. The graphics do look nice but I am burnt out on the whole asian style. There is nothing innovative really in here. People try to use the whole "flying" aspect as innovative, it isn't. Domo, Flyff, Perfect World, Dream of Mirror,etc... 

Yeah, 'cause I love flying in games with item malls.

This is still the only P2P MMO with flying combat and tactics, so it feels innovative for some.

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Anyway at least this is fair now, we had the top 10 reasons why it is fail and why it is good Good to see the game still has trolls and fanboys, means it's healthy enough for people to care about.

grapevine

More like one of the least innovated and bland MMOs out today.

Silacoid

Almost all out of the 10 things you listed are totally opinion based and from what I've read almost everyone who has played disagrees with you.

 

Cik_Asalin

Aion was enjoyable to play, but i just hit a brick wall at level 35 or so.  There is little wrong with this game as entertainment value compared to the non-sandboxy themepark games such as WoW, and it does have some nice themeparkish breadth and depth of game-play with pvp outlets such as rifts.  The rifts that drew pvp across lands was an excellent add to the game-play mix and I had gotten 3 months of entertainment out of the game, as I had gotten about 3 months out of WoW.  But just as with the static nature of WoW, hit a brick wall with the redundancy of game-play.

But none-the-less, I dont think it's a game not worth trying.

Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo


1) Its the number 2 mmo in the world currently in terms of subscriptions
35 milion people play Farmville, does that make a good game?
2) Its making innovations while other mmos stagnate and become repetitive
Spellborn  has inovation, Aion has slight changes compared to other MMO's
3) The PvP is the best mmos have to offer (especially rifts)
Ever tried PvP in DAoC, AoC and spellborn?
4) Unmatched character customization
Thats true its great
5) Excellent game design and mechanics (gliding, pvp, rifting ect.)
Copy cat gamedesign except for the gliding
6) Beautiful environments
Compare this to the Farsights of Vanguard and its a bit pale
7) Always something to work for and improve upon
Thats what all MMO's are about
8) Scales well for lower end computers
Really... ever compared the performance on lower systems to WoW
9) Rewards hard work and dedication
.. Does it.. or does it reward time played online as any other MMO
10) Has the most potential of any mmo
Thats your opinion, i disagree... but then we probably are a differnt kind of gamer...

 

qotsa

Aion and STO are the only mmo's I've ever canceled my pre-orders to. Both felt horribly linear and generic to me. if this is what I have to look forward to, I might finally kick my mmo habit that has been going strong since '99.

syntax42

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo

1) Its the number 2 mmo in the world currently in terms of subscriptions

Numbers don't make a game good.  Take WoW, the number 1 MMO, for example.  Not everyone enjoys playing it just because it has numbers.

2) Its making innovations while other mmos stagnate and become repetitive

Nothing is innovative about it.  We've seen flying, similar PvP, "talent point" systems, long grinds, and a tiered gear system in other MMOs.  They just happened to combine a few of the good things about certain MMOs.

3) The PvP is the best mmos have to offer (especially rifts)

I can respect your opinion.  However, you should know their PvP system almost copies DAoC and WAR, with the exception of rifts.

4) Unmatched character customization

Not true.  City of Heroes and Champions Online both have as much, if not more, character looks customization.  Aion's character customization in terms of a character's abilities is actually one of the poorest in modern MMOs.

5) Excellent game design and mechanics (gliding, pvp, rifting ect.)

Again, an opinion.

6) Beautiful environments

Good graphics don't make a great MMO.  They help, but many people prefer gameplay to be great first.  Vanguard has some of the best graphics in an MMO, but is slowly dying.

7) Always something to work for and improve upon

A long grind doesn't make a game good.   DAoC and WAR had a long grind built into their PvP system to keep players playing at the end-game.  The difference is that the PvP in those games was designed to be fun instead of a means to achieve the grind.

8) Scales well for lower end computers

So does Ultima Online...

9) Rewards hard work and dedication

Rewards long hours of botting...

10) Has the most potential of any mmo

Potential is another subjective term.  ANY MMO can have potential if they just think hard enough on how to expand their content.  WoW has produced , what, 3 expansions so far?  DAoC has something like 8 expansions.

 

 

Enjoy your game.  Most of us have already tried it due to the hype and saw the grindfest behind the curtains.  Poor customer service and lying to your customers about botters also helped many decide this was a bad game.

Kyleran

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo


1) Its the number 2 mmo in the world currently in terms of subscriptions
Never a good reason to say something is the best, see WOW.
2) Its making innovations while other mmos stagnate and become repetitive
Name one decent, unique innovation in Aion that someone else hasn't done, and done better?
3) The PvP is the best mmos have to offer (especially rifts)
The PVP is all about Rangers ganking lowbies or zerging through endless lag at the fortresses, hardly fresh or interesting.  (and pretty much totally pointless to boot)
4) Unmatched character customization
Seriously?  See COX, CO or even STO for better and see WOW for offering players a variety of builds to chose from
5) Excellent game design and mechanics (gliding, pvp, rifting ect.)
Er, gliding is pretty cool, too bad I can't fly a hell of a lot more, the rest is meh.
6) Beautiful environments
That are very rigid in their design, you are always running into walls everywhere.
7) Always something to work for and improve upon
What? Grind for exp, grind for gold, grind to run raids and instances?  Every game has that in them, and once you get to 50, then what?  Nothing but rinse and repeat.
8) Scales well for lower end computers
Just try to do a massive fortress fight with even a mid range rig......notthing but lag unless you dial everything way down. (and even then)
9) Rewards hard work and dedication
Er, mindlessly grinding for hours isn't work, just means you have little else to do with your free time.
10) Has the most potential of any mmo
Nonsense, SWTOR, EVE, WOW, GW2, FFIV all come to mind as having more potential, unless you are talking about the "dream" NC unveiled.  But many of us  don't see that actually coming to pass in our lifetimes, and certainly not before Aion is long forgotten.

 I've been playing Aion since launch (against my will, my son likes it) and can clearly see it isn't anything new and fresh.  

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SevenOmatic

I did not waste any cash on this one but I did waste some of my time on it during beta.

zantax

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo


1) Its the number 2 mmo in the world currently in terms of subscriptions
2) Its making innovations while other mmos stagnate and become repetitive
3) The PvP is the best mmos have to offer (especially rifts)
4) Unmatched character customization
5) Excellent game design and mechanics (gliding, pvp, rifting ect.)
6) Beautiful environments
7) Always something to work for and improve upon
8) Scales well for lower end computers
9) Rewards hard work and dedication
10) Has the most potential of any mmo

 

Wow I find this laughable and I liked Aion for what it was...

1) Subscription base doesn't make the game, since I haven't looked at the numbers I can't say much but I do remember on day 1 a TON of gold farmers.

2) Name an innovation, there isn't any in this game, the only one would be flying combat MAYBE because City of Heros had it first, both real flight and flight combat even though it was very basic.

3) Best PVP, yea ok, sure it does.  Many still believe one of the oldest MMOs still in production today has the best PvP of any MMO, now mind you it is 10 years old but I think it really evolved open world PvP, Asherons Call.  Best twitch PvP in the buisness.

4) Character customization...BWHAHAHAHA...Have you played City of Heros or Villans for that matter, and that is visual only, if your talking about Unique characters then how about Ultima online or Asherons Call, your characters are truely your own when you decide what skills they have, heck even EVE has more character customizations when it comes to the character and not visual appearance.

5) Game design, I will give you it is very well done, lots of invisible walls, zoneing, combat....errr hold it on second thought it SUCKS.  Very directed game play, quest 1 leads to quest 2 which leads to quest 3 which leads to level...etc.  No real freedom of movement the invisible walls stop that, and you can't just pick a random point on the horizon and run to it without zoning.  I guess for a theme park game it is done well but I prefer the open world of SWG, Asherons Call...etc.

6) Beautiful environments, I will say this they are Pretty, but the best out there by far no.  In this one case I will say Age of Conan looks better, so does LOTR.  Heck it has a long way to go to touch either of these games.

7) What is there to work on, Level up?

8) Scales well for low end computers, this is a good thing actually and more game makers should be trying to do this.

9) Rewards Hard Work and Dedication sorry never could get far enough to really see that, the game lost me by level 25.

10) Most potential, by far no, many games out there have more potential it just depends on the direction of the game maker.

 

Miles-Prower

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo


1.) Never a good reason to say something is the best, see WOW.
2.) Name one decent, unique innovation in Aion that someone else hasn't done, and done better?
3.) The PVP is all about Rangers ganking lowbies or zerging through endless lag at the fortresses, hardly fresh or interesting.  (and pretty much totally pointless to boot)
4.) Seriously?  See COX, CO or even STO for better and see WOW for offering players a variety of builds to chose from
5.) Er, gliding is pretty cool, too bad I can't fly a hell of a lot more, the rest is meh.
6.) That are very rigid in their design, you are always running into walls everywhere.
7.) What? Grind for exp, grind for gold, grind to run raids and instances?  Every game has that in them, and once you get to 50, then what?  Nothing but rinse and repeat.
8.) Just try to do a massive fortress fight with even a mid range rig......notthing but lag unless you dial everything way down. (and even then)
9.) Er, mindlessly grinding for hours isn't work, just means you have little else to do with your free time.
10.) Nonsense, SWTOR, EVE, WOW, GW2, FFIV all come to mind as having more potential, unless you are talking about the "dream" NC unveiled.  But many of us  don't see that actually coming to pass in our lifetimes, and certainly not before Aion is long forgotten.

I almost think OP was a troll post.  I've been playing Aion since launch (against my will, my son likes it) and can clearly see it isn't anything new and fresh.  

 

 

See WoW do what? Backflips?

1. Yeah, I get it. You have a vendetta against WoW. Hurray. Let's move on?
   
   
2. Gotta agree. Aion is pretty much just like every MMORPG out there.
   
   
3. Agree about the PvP. One of the reasons I quit Aion
   
   
4. Character Customization ≠ Character advancement. Aion has superior Character customization to most games, true; with the exception of CoX and CO of course. As for Advancement, Aion is about up there in terms of WoW, but WoW has more control because of a better talent system
   
   
5. The limited flight option is annoying as sin. Why couldn't they just make flying a permanent part of the game instead of limiting it like that? It makes gathering Aether annoying and getting around even more annoying. Why even have wings if you can't use them?
   
   
6. The environments are beautiful, but I'd expect no less from a CryEngine game. That isn't to say there isn't there faults. For instance, there's a lot of manipulation to make 2D objects appear 3D. As for "Invisible barriers" what does this have to do with the beauty of the environment? They're invisible!
   
   
7. Work is work. Crafting, leveling an alt, raiding, PvP. Whatever you want to call it. Different strokes for different folks. Not even sure how you were attempting to rebuke that argument considering it's basically all opinion.
   
   
8. Didn't he say that Aion Scaled well? Doesn't that imply that you can scale the game down to work for fortress battles?
   
   
9. See #7.
   
   
10. Potential for growth and current growth ≠ the same thing. Aion West has the unfortunate option of being behind the Korean version in terms of growth, which makes some people feel Aion is stagnant and boring, but those changes will come to west, at a much slower pace because of Localization. That does not mean; however, that Aion is incapable of evolving.
    
    

That's about all I have to say. Aion is not my cup of tea. Mostly because of the economy (RMT + Bots) and PvP (Ganking/griefing). I liked Aion's character customization, but playing a different "Faction" was little more than the color of your wings. Everything about one faction was the same. Just one was all "Happy and colorful" and the other "Dark, cold and depressing".

All in all, I'd say Aion is a good game. It just suffers from being controlled by a market that doesn't cater too well to Western tastes.

 

joker007mo

8) Scales well for low end computers, this is a good thing actually and more game makers should be trying to do this.

actually i experience intense lag and rubberbanding especially in cities even my cousin remarked at how i was so far behind when we were running side by side and sieges um well sieges i cant even get close to or i turn into the 6 million dollar man minus the speed eveeryone is invisible because the textures havent rezzed yet so all i see are a bunch of names and by the time i do see them im usually dead looking up at them from the ground  

i must admit aion is the only game i have experienced insane amounts of lag with on that scale anyway

but i cant say i agree with this statement

joker007mo

Originally posted by Miles-Prower

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo


1.) Never a good reason to say something is the best, see WOW.
2.) Name one decent, unique innovation in Aion that someone else hasn't done, and done better?
3.) The PVP is all about Rangers ganking lowbies or zerging through endless lag at the fortresses, hardly fresh or interesting.  (and pretty much totally pointless to boot)
4.) Seriously?  See COX, CO or even STO for better and see WOW for offering players a variety of builds to chose from
5.) Er, gliding is pretty cool, too bad I can't fly a hell of a lot more, the rest is meh.
6.) That are very rigid in their design, you are always running into walls everywhere.
7.) What? Grind for exp, grind for gold, grind to run raids and instances?  Every game has that in them, and once you get to 50, then what?  Nothing but rinse and repeat.
8.) Just try to do a massive fortress fight with even a mid range rig......notthing but lag unless you dial everything way down. (and even then)
9.) Er, mindlessly grinding for hours isn't work, just means you have little else to do with your free time.
10.) Nonsense, SWTOR, EVE, WOW, GW2, FFIV all come to mind as having more potential, unless you are talking about the "dream" NC unveiled.  But many of us  don't see that actually coming to pass in our lifetimes, and certainly not before Aion is long forgotten.

I almost think OP was a troll post.  I've been playing Aion since launch (against my will, my son likes it) and can clearly see it isn't anything new and fresh.  

 

 

See WoW do what? Backflips?

1. Yeah, I get it. You have a vendetta against WoW. Hurray. Let's move on?
   
   
2. Gotta agree. Aion is pretty much just like every MMORPG out there.
   
   
3. Agree about the PvP. One of the reasons I quit Aion
   
   
4. Character Customization ≠ Character advancement. Aion has superior Character customization to most games, true; with the exception of CoX and CO of course. As for Advancement, Aion is about up there in terms of WoW, but WoW has more control because of a better talent system
   
   
5. The limited flight option is annoying as sin. Why couldn't they just make flying a permanent part of the game instead of limiting it like that? It makes gathering Aether annoying and getting around even more annoying. Why even have wings if you can't use them?
   
   
6. The environments are beautiful, but I'd expect no less from a CryEngine game. That isn't to say there isn't there faults. For instance, there's a lot of manipulation to make 2D objects appear 3D. As for "Invisible barriers" what does this have to do with the beauty of the environment? They're invisible!
   
   
7. Work is work. Crafting, leveling an alt, raiding, PvP. Whatever you want to call it. Different strokes for different folks. Not even sure how you were attempting to rebuke that argument considering it's basically all opinion.
   
   
8. Didn't he say that Aion Scaled well? Doesn't that imply that you can scale the game down to work for fortress battles?
   
   
9. See #7.
   
   
10. Potential for growth and current growth ≠ the same thing. Aion West has the unfortunate option of being behind the Korean version in terms of growth, which makes some people feel Aion is stagnant and boring, but those changes will come to west, at a much slower pace because of Localization. That does not mean; however, that Aion is incapable of evolving.
    
    

That's about all I have to say. Aion is not my cup of tea. Mostly because of the economy (RMT + Bots) and PvP (Ganking/griefing). I liked Aion's character customization, but playing a different "Faction" was little more than the color of your wings. Everything about one faction was the same. Just one was all "Happy and colorful" and the other "Dark, cold and depressing".

All in all, I'd say Aion is a good game. It just suffers from being controlled by a market that doesn't cater too well to Western tastes.

 

i quite agree especially flying when i heard about this game i thought yes finally i can go flying free and have air combat but having a limited time to fly makes no sense do you tell a bird he can only fly for so long before he drops out of the sky if anything make it a stamina thing and most areas are no fly zones so i get to glide? no im sorry i see no reason i cant take off and fly away in a no fly zone

at least in wow they shot you down  here they constrain you with invisible walls and keep you from flying by some unseen force

and when you do get to fly you run out of time rather quickly i seriously cant see a templar flying around in the current state of the game attacking which did sound worthwhile but in reality just doesnt happen by the time you start a fight and get in the air your out of time or they fly away  in other words where is the war i expected whereas instead all i see are a bunch of chickens running from battle

Sovrath

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo


1) Its the number 2 mmo in the world currently in terms of subscriptions
That doesn't really make it the best mmo. If you wanted to judge by subs then that would make it 2nd best.
2) Its making innovations while other mmos stagnate and become repetitive
I don't really feel its made any innovations yet. Though I do like the weapon customization.
3) The PvP is the best mmos have to offer (especially rifts)
Subjective point.
4) Unmatched character customization
I would say that it does have the best character customization I've seen though there are a few other games

that give it a run for its money.
5) Excellent game design and mechanics (gliding, pvp, rifting ect.)



Again, subjective. There are many who don't like how they've implemented gliding, and pvp and

there are players who don't like the rifts and players who feel there should be more rifts.
6) Beautiful environments



I think the environments are beautiful but as I've mentioned before the world seems very deliberate. It's almost

as if it reall was a theme park world.
7) Always something to work for and improve upon
Most good mmo's have this
8) Scales well for lower end computers



That is very true though large sieges might still give people issues.
9) Rewards hard work and dedication
Possibly though most good mmo's do this and there are those who would say that most mmo's don't offer

any real challenges that require work or actual skill.
10) Has the most potential of any mmo  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8
I assume that is a link to the vision trailer. while that's nice I'm more a "put your money where your mouth is" type of person. So I'll believe it when I see it. I would have been more impressed had they said "this is definitely what WILL happen and we offer to prove it by implementing one of these items in the next big update.
In any case we'll see.

 

Look, I'm a fan of Aion but I don't think it's the best game out there though there are things about it that are the best for me. Additionally I also don't buy some of the things people say about it because they just don't hold up when you look at other games with similar issues.

Still, glad you like it.

BarryManilow

If you like to play dress up,  endlessly grind off cutesy teenie-booper mobs, 90 pound girls fighting with toy-like weapons that looks like it weighs twice as much as the wielder then Aion is for you!  Oh and the future of Aion has more "girlie" fluff.   Houses with huge candy on it, mounts that look like it came straight out of a kiddie anime cartoon.  Come on kiddy bunnies for a mount?!  Are you serious?!  How can any adult male play this game seriously and not question his manhood or sexuality.

 

To me, Aion is Hello Kitty Online with PvP.  Like a big teenage pillow fight. 

Daffid011

I get a chuckle out of the number 1 reason.

 

The number 1 reason Aion in the #1 mmo is because it is the number 2 mmo!  

 

Worthy of a top spot on a Letterman top 10 list. 

Electriceye

I'm trying to figure out which of the 2 "10 reasons why Aion is ..." was worse.. this one or the other troll one.

Katilla

i love how the WoW fanbios call Aion a grindfest cause you have to actually have to do some work to get your levels and they are all spoiled. Remember the days of EQ1 where people would do nothing for hours on end but camp in one spot with a grp and grind out levels on mobs?  I have a feeling that some of the newer mmo's are trying to bring that back., and i for one welcome the grind, makes me feel like i actually earned my levels instead of having them handed to me.

Larry2298

Originally posted by Katilla


i love how the WoW fanbios call Aion a grindfest cause you have to actually have to do some work to get your levels and they are all spoiled. Remember the days of EQ1 where people would do nothing for hours on end but camp in one spot with a grp and grind out levels on mobs?  I have a feeling that some of the newer mmo's are trying to bring that back., and i for one welcome the grind, makes me feel like i actually earned my levels instead of having them handed to me.

 

Heavy grinding is not only the differences between F2P/P2P or Asian/Western games. In addition,  anyone who has said he likes Aion grinding, please try to make yourself as Expert Crafter first and do not buy gold. There are tailor, armorsmith, weaponsmith, handicraft and alchemy, cooking only 6 professions. Pick any 2 and say you want to earn it from grinding. Oh wait, make 3 expert crafters.

Furthermore, get yourself with lv30 armor set, yes full set.

Then, make one of your character reach the lowest rank Officer.

If you don't even have a expert crafter, you didn't know what means grinding in Aion.

someforumguy

Originally posted by Sudowoodoo


1) Its the number 2 mmo in the world already in terms of subscriptions
2) Its making innovations while other mmos stagnate and become repetitive
3) The PvP is the best mmos have to offer (especially rifts)
4) Unmatched character customization
5) Excellent game design and mechanics (gliding, pvp, rifting ect.)
6) Beautiful environments
7) Always something to work for and improve upon
8) Scales well for lower end computers
9) Rewards hard work and dedication
10) Has more potential than any other mmo  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8

 

Point 8 is the only objective point. A claim like Point 1 is always unreliable.

Points 2,9 and 10 are too general and can be said about any MMO.

So you like Aion. And then come up with reasons why YOU like Aion (points 3,4,5,6,7,9).

What is it with some people that they cant simply play a game, but have to turn in some kind of zealot and spread the word about their new MMOreligion?

Cant you just say it like this :' 10 Reasons why I like Aion most.'

 

Mad+Dog

In my opinion Aion is just the same old crap the devs have been churning out for the last few years. There are one or two games out right now that are moving things forward and a lot more to come I hope.

 

The sooner we move away from games like Aion, WoW, WAR ect ect (insert random TAB target grind/quest fest here) and these sort of games the better.

Guys come on Aion is nothing new.

 

PS Im not trolling, this is my opinion!