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Blind support or true believers?

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  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092

    Why support MO over Darkfall?

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by brostyn


    Why support MO over Darkfall?

     

    No clue, I do not support either.  The game I am looking at right now (mainly waiting for videos) is Xsyon.

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  • MurashuMurashu Member UncommonPosts: 1,386
    Originally posted by Squirv01

    Originally posted by Murashu


    What I find even more odd is why, someone who obviously doesnt like this game, dedicates so much of their personal time to bashing it? The older I get, the more I realize that my time is worth much more than money ever will be. I dont play MO, Ill most likely never download the game since it doesnt offer 3rd person view, so I have no reason to defend it. I just get sick of seeing the same people flaming a BETA product and bashing the people who hope the game is a success.
     
    Ending your post with 'This is not a troll/hater post, I believe this is a legitimate question.' doesnt make it any less of a troll post.



     

    Sorry Shipmate, but I have to wonder why you responded/entertained an opinion you don't feel is even worth wrighting about.

    I have no issues with anyone writing their opinion, that is all any of us has to offer on these forums. But you have to admit, making hundreds of posts about a game that is still in beta, just to tell everyone how much you dislike it is rather fanatical.

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by Murashu



    I have no issues with anyone writing their opinion, that is all any of us has to offer on these forums. But you have to admit, making hundreds of posts about a game that is still in beta, just to tell everyone how much you dislike it is rather fanatical.

     

    Beta ends in 2 weeks, game is coming out then.  Starvault will not be able to fix the last 9 months of bugs with 1 or 2 patches. 

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  • MurashuMurashu Member UncommonPosts: 1,386
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Beta ends in 2 weeks, game is coming out then.  Starvault will not be able to fix the last 9 months of bugs with 1 or 2 patches. 

    Thanks for making my point.

     

    Sorry I interrupted your trolling.

  • Squirv01Squirv01 Member Posts: 155
    Originally posted by Murashu

    Originally posted by Squirv01

    Originally posted by Murashu


    What I find even more odd is why, someone who obviously doesnt like this game, dedicates so much of their personal time to bashing it? The older I get, the more I realize that my time is worth much more than money ever will be. I dont play MO, Ill most likely never download the game since it doesnt offer 3rd person view, so I have no reason to defend it. I just get sick of seeing the same people flaming a BETA product and bashing the people who hope the game is a success.
     
    Ending your post with 'This is not a troll/hater post, I believe this is a legitimate question.' doesnt make it any less of a troll post.



     

    Sorry Shipmate, but I have to wonder why you responded/entertained an opinion you don't feel is even worth wrighting about.

    I have no issues with anyone writing their opinion, that is all any of us has to offer on these forums. But you have to admit, making hundreds of posts about a game that is still in beta, just to tell everyone how much you dislike it is rather fanatical.



     

    Nothing personally directed at you but I don't have to admit anything.  I'm just wondering why someone with limited time as you explained would entertain something they deemed not worthy of their time.

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Just updated the OP with 2 more items.

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  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005

     Wow really what does it matter where people spend their money on, this is the major problem with people nowadays they make their decisions based on others, who cares if people dont play and still want to subscribe its their money and their decision, why should the OP or anyone want to create a profile of these people.

    No matter how hard you try do you really think you are gonna get to a  conclusion with coherent data on a forum on the INTERNET? LOL.

    I havent played this game in a while, but to me this is gonna be another DF, will probably recover and improve over time, but at the minute its just not worth my money, I like the concept and I would love for them to pull it off, I will come back in 6 months or so to see if its still standing.

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Just updated the OP with 2 more items.

     

    Its like people with a  BUTT-UGLY baby going on about how beautiful it is.  When in reality that thing fell down a flight of ugly and didn't miss a step.

     

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Just updated the OP with 2 more items.

     

    Its like people with a  BUTT-UGLY baby going on about how beautiful it is.  When in reality that thing fell down a flight of ugly and didn't miss a step.

     

     

    But he is adorable!

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Just updated the OP with 2 more items.

     

    Its like people with a  BUTT-UGLY baby going on about how beautiful it is.  When in reality that thing fell down a flight of ugly and didn't miss a step.

     

     

    But he is adorable!

     

    OMG... Thats funny!!

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Just updated the OP with 2 more items.

     

    Its like people with a  BUTT-UGLY baby going on about how beautiful it is.  When in reality that thing fell down a flight of ugly and didn't miss a step.

     

     

    But he is adorable!

     

    OMG... Thats funny!!

     

    Hehe, glad you liked it

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    My user stars disappeared, I can't hype anything now!

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Everyone might want to check this out... they are asking for better reviews, they don't like how many people are saying the game is bad...

    www.mortalonline.com/forums/38232-need-more-fair-reviews-beta.html

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  • osmundaosmunda Member Posts: 1,087
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Everyone might want to check this out... they are asking for better reviews, they don't like how many people are saying the game is bad...
    www.mortalonline.com/forums/38232-need-more-fair-reviews-beta.html



     

    You could clarify that Lonewolf9567 (a forum member) is asking for better reviews, not Starvault or any of the developers.  The thread has all of 13 posts and 6 of them are by lonewolf. I could point to opinions ranging from yours to Adrala's, say "they" and convey whatever impression I wanted about MMORPG.COM's attitude towards Mortal.  That wouldn't make it a review by MMORPG.COM staff.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652

    Hey Zekkcc. Nice job.  Though I think your review includes a few to many instances of what you think/hope or "have faith" (you even used the words), I think you attempted fairness and acknowledge the problems with the game while also talking about the parts you like.

    I think you are right in that the #1 and #2 issues are lag and desynch (the new miracle lag fix patch is uploading as I type).  If they don't get those issues (and the nowgame.exe you mention) fixed in the next few days there is no hope.   The one area I think you glossed over in importance was the hacking/cheating/exploiting.   In your review you say it's the reason you left Darkfall (mine as well) so I am surprised that you seem to accept their statement that most of the cheating will go away once Open Beta ends and people have to buy their accts.  It didn't stop the cheaters in DF.  Without having some very complex auto-detection most of the cheating will be nearly impossible to detect/prove. Macroing for resources, skills, stats and macroing combat moves will be impossible to prove. I really see no reason to believe it will be different in MO than it was in DF as both rely on GMs to manually catch the cheaters (except for the blatant ones where some monitor program MIGHT catch), but as the game hasn't launched.. that is just my opinion and I could well be wrong.   We will find out in about 2 weeks.

    I would be interested in seeing a followup from you after the first week the game goes live.

     

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    What I find interesting is (if I read it correctly). In MMORPG"S announcement regarding MO's launch. They mentioned the Desync issue is being worked on by epic games, now did I read that correctly?

    It also made me think (if this is the case) epic is possibly lending them a hand in the form of engine maintenance. Anyone know whether this is the case or not?

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  • TunkasinaTunkasina Member Posts: 40

    Actually, they work with Epic about the network problem...

    From MO website:

    "The main focus lies of course on the desync problems which both the SV programmers and the coders from EPIC are working hard on to fix. The largest part of problems in the game right now is directly related to the desync between client and server."

     

     

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by Tunkasina


    Actually, they work with Epic about the network problem...
    From MO website:
    "The main focus lies of course on the desync problems which both the SV programmers and the coders from EPIC are working hard on to fix. The largest part of problems in the game right now is directly related to the desync between client and server."

     
     

    Even if they are working with Epic ,NASA, MIT does it make any difference? They have been unable to fix the problem in the last 10 patches alone.  Problem existed before, just going back until Open Beta.  Would MO be a better game overall without the issue? Nope     Theres still all the other bugs,hacks,dupes, horrible mechanics, crashes and general lack of fun.

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • TunkasinaTunkasina Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Even if they are working with Epic ,NASA, MIT does it make any difference? They have been unable to fix the problem in the last 10 patches alone.  Problem existed before, just going back until Open Beta.  Would MO be a better game overall without the issue? Nope     Theres still all the other bugs,hacks,dupes, horrible mechanics, crashes and general lack of fun.



     

    ? What are you trying to tell me? I just respond to Malickie, nothing more, nothing less.

     

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  • biplexbiplex Member Posts: 268

    I have been working with Unreal Engine for over a year. You dont imagine how vague their support can be. If you don't understand what you are doing yourself, Epic wont be able to help you much. And there is a lot you can mess up in the code, it seems SV guys have a lot of experinece doing that (i mean messing the code)

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  • TunkasinaTunkasina Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by biplex


    I have been working with Unreal Engine for over a year.



     

    Interesting, what was the context?

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  • biplexbiplex Member Posts: 268


    Originally posted by Tunkasina 
    Interesting, what was the context?

    The context was that Epic is not fixing what you have messed up when you are licensee. They can point you in the right direction, they can fix bugs in their code if you find one, but they wont make your game for you.

    Some other MMOs based on UE3 i have played some betas of prove that there is no problem with UE3. ABP and TERA dont have any troubles with synchronization, lag and most of those games work just smooth, i would say they are perfect compared to MO. All the fault lies in SV incompetence and talking with EPIC support wont help them much.

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  • TunkasinaTunkasina Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by biplex


     
     
    The context was that Epic is not fixing what you have messed up when you are licensee. They can point you in the right direction, they can fix bugs in their code if you find one, but they wont make your game for you.



     

    That I have well understand. My question was, why were you working with epic? In which team?

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