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  • NasirJNasirJ Member UncommonPosts: 164
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Nasir64

    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by Nasir64


    The others claim the game is horrible, but list info that is either incorrect or vague with nothing solid to back it up.
     

     

    There have been list after list of issues with MO.   Shall I pull up a few pages of the bug tracker?



    TRY THE FREE OPEN BETA BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!

     

     

    Strange, if there is so many issues with this game that are GAMEBREAKING then why do i see more people ingame then I did last week. Sounds like the game sucks if you ask me... oh where is that dancing banana?



     

    Sounds like we should check the bug-tracker for an accurate and complete picture of the (reported) bugs and exploits still pending repair...

    When I look I see 933 open bugs (not counting the suggestions etc).  The vast vajority under the "coding related" dropdown...page after page of those are listed as Critical or Major.

     

     

    The person who submits the but selects what severity and a lot of times people misjudge or over react with this. Example

     

    4902 Category: AI (Creatures, NPCs etc)

    Title: Floating pets Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

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    *******

    Today, 07:45

    Floating pets

    When you tame a pet and make it follow you over a ledge the pet floats in the air slowly falling back to the ground.

    I think this is not limited to pets but all NPC's.

    Reply With Quote

     

    MAJOR BUG, they float in the air...

     

    D: 4871 Category: Skills & Attributes

    Title: Skills Lost on log out Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

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    DeathDemon

    Yesterday, 02:11

    Skills Lost on log out

    At some point in my travels I lost my connection to the server. When I logged back in I no longer had the riding skill. My friend who was at my house (Ishamael) was dropped at the same time and lost his domestication skill. I have tried a relog but the skills have not reappeared.

    Reply With Quote

     

    Known bug for a few weeks now and easily fixed with a relog.... but apparently its MAJOR

     

    Last time I submitted a but it was fixed next patch very prompt.

     

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by Beord

    Originally posted by adrala


     MO community?
    Where?
    If you look for the community its at mortalonline.com.
    If you dont belive me ask the ppl who replied to this thread when was the last time they plaind MO and how many bugs have they reported eversince joining beta (if they ever joined beta that is).
     



     

    Been playing since block B

    Average of 3hrs per day.. though it can be up to 7..

    If it was unplayable... Im sure I couldnt do this.

     

     

    Since Block B? Then why the sudden interest in mmorpg.com?  

     

     

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • Miles-ProwerMiles-Prower Member Posts: 1,106
    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Originally posted by Miles-Prower


    I say to heck with this game. To heck with Darkfall and to heck with any indie companies thinking they can make a quick buck by robbing ignorant players of their money, dissolving the company, and then wasting everyone's time.


    The MMORPG market doesn't need anymore watered down indie companies thinking they can join in and make a lot of quick; easy money with no effort. It needs high quality games with good support, a high quality staff that listens to its players, and content that is worthy of a subscription. I'm so sick of all these "Sandbox" games, because they don't have any content. They make a half-baked world and expect you to do something with the world on your own. It's a poor man's lazy attempt at MMORPGs





    /endrant





    ~Miles "Tails" Prower out! Catch me if you can!


    Indie Company is more likely to listen to its fans than a big gaming developer.

     



    Well, we can argue all day about indie vs. Triple-A and get nowhere. There really isn't any concrete proof to say otherwise. I'd also like to add that I was shifting my focus towards the Indie companies that are in it for the buck. I can and willfully admit there are likely to be Indie companies out there who churn out quality stuff and actually do attempt to make a great product. Ryzom comes to mind, here.



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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Originally posted by adrala


     MO community?
    Where?
    If you look for the community its at mortalonline.com.
    If you dont belive me ask the ppl who replied to this thread when was the last time they plaind MO and how many bugs have they reported eversince joining beta (if they ever joined beta that is).
     



     

    The last time I "plaind" Mortal was one week ago.  I tried getting the latest patch on Monday and got an error message.  I haven;t felt like downloading the whole client again...

     

    As for bug reports.. heck I used to load up Mantis...

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • BeordBeord Member Posts: 10
    Originally posted by HanoverZ

    Originally posted by Beord

    Originally posted by adrala


     MO community?
    Where?
    If you look for the community its at mortalonline.com.
    If you dont belive me ask the ppl who replied to this thread when was the last time they plaind MO and how many bugs have they reported eversince joining beta (if they ever joined beta that is).
     



     

    Been playing since block B

    Average of 3hrs per day.. though it can be up to 7..

    If it was unplayable... Im sure I couldnt do this.

     

     

    Since Block B? Then why the sudden interest in mmorpg.com?  

     

     

    I have floated around MMORPG.com since way before mortal online.  Never made an account due to never actualy posting on forums.

     

    I am regularily on the MO forums, and had heard much about the trolling and stories / exaggerations on here, so I thought I would come and add a early closed beta testers opinion of the game. 

    Thanks for the welcome btw.

    Like the banana.

  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536

    Honesty goes a long way, if the devs were honest with the dwindling MO community rather than giving false hope - I think the game would sway some people to give the "benefit of the doubt" that some people are doing with this "I'll give a 6 month sub" for hope that it somehow gets better.

    Game needs to be bought out by another company, put back into CB/OB (stress) for a while.

  • BeordBeord Member Posts: 10
    Originally posted by Heretique


    Honesty goes a long way, if the devs were honest with the dwindling MO community rather than giving false hope - I think the game would sway some people to give the "benefit of the doubt" that some people are doing with this "I'll give a 6 month sub" for hope that it somehow gets better.
    Game needs to be bought out by another company, put back into CB/OB (stress) for a while.



     

    So any link to ANYTHING that they have said that was dishonest?

     EDIT: and dwindling? game is busier than ever I would say. 

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by Heretique


    Honesty goes a long way, if the devs were honest with the dwindling MO community rather than giving false hope - I think the game would sway some people to give the "benefit of the doubt" that some people are doing with this "I'll give a 6 month sub" for hope that it somehow gets better.
    Game needs to be bought out by another company, put back into CB/OB (stress) for a while.

     

    "Its still beta!" or "Its only just released!"   I can't wait to hear that.

     

    On a major company buying Starvault, I agree that they should to get the game in working condition or else it will end up shutting down.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Originally posted by Nasir64


    The person who submits the but selects what severity and a lot of times people misjudge or over react with this. Example
     
    4902 Category: AI (Creatures, NPCs etc)

    Title: Floating pets Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

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    Junior Member

    *******

    Today, 07:45

    Floating pets

    When you tame a pet and make it follow you over a ledge the pet floats in the air slowly falling back to the ground.
    I think this is not limited to pets but all NPC's.

    Reply With Quote
     
    MAJOR BUG, they float in the air...
     
    D: 4871 Category: Skills & Attributes

    Title: Skills Lost on log out Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

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    DeathDemon

    Yesterday, 02:11

    Skills Lost on log out

    At some point in my travels I lost my connection to the server. When I logged back in I no longer had the riding skill. My friend who was at my house (Ishamael) was dropped at the same time and lost his domestication skill. I have tried a relog but the skills have not reappeared.

    Reply With Quote
     
    Known bug for a few weeks now and easily fixed with a relog.... but apparently its MAJOR
     
    Last time I submitted a but it was fixed next patch very prompt.
     



     

    OK.. how about little ones like this.. since you want to pick and choose:

    XXXXXX = Flying Character

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Here's how to duplicate this bug:

    1. XXX

    2. XXXX.

    3. XXXXX

    4. Your screen freezes, but your character in game goes flying into the air.

    5. Let go of the mouse button, and your client resumes from your last known position.

    This causes your screen to freeze, and most likely stops sending information to the server. This causes your character to fly straight up into the air until you let go of the mouse button, then you return to your last known location, which is observed by all other players in the area.

    __________________

     

    OR:

    Dupe bug

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    It's a dupe bug, of sorts, which I did accidentally.

    1) XXX

    2) XXX.

    3) XXX

    4) When I logged back in, all of my items were rolled back, so I still had all my gold. The skills, however, did not roll back.

    I still have all the skills that I bought and all the gold that I bought them with.

    __________________

     

     

    OR:

     

    Always Grey Flagged after login, when it turns blue guards still kill me

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I am constantly grey flagged withouth doing anything bad.

    I log in and i am flagged light grey, when someone calls guards i die.

    when i am ghost i am light grey flagged, when i wait some time as ghost the flag turns blue, when i resurrect at a priest (flag was blue while being ghost) my flag turns light grey again - and again everybody can kill me when calling guards.

    when i am alive and the light grey flag turns blue again it it STILL NOT OVER - i can still be killed by guards by anyone.

    additionally my horse always has a dark grey flag when i tame a new one for example and it never gets blue, and the guards can kill it.

     

    ------------

    Or:

    Logged in to another's account!!!

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    At the character selection screen I was presented with three characters that were not mine. I selected one and attempted to enter the world. I did this to see if what would happen, having no ill intent. Fortunatly, I was not able to enter the game this time. The game never progressed past the loading screen. However, with the current server instability, this might have been due to a server problem. I feel that this is a very serious account security issue.

     

    OR:

    5 second Loot timer - Duping still possible

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Currently it is still possible to dupe, even after the introduction of the 5 second loot timer.

    Under laggy conditions, if 2 (or possibly more) XXXXXXX, it can happen that both of them will get the loot window up.

    Items can then be looted twice.

    I suppose it would be possible to reproduce this by XXXXXXXX.

    Fix please

     

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

     

    Now these are all PUBLICLY visible on the bug tracker (no NDA) but I edited out the steps just to be sure I am not accused of promoting exploiting.  feel free to visit the public bugtracker on the offifial site and view the steps yourselves.  Also, these bugs have been CONFIRMED and all but one have a dev response saying something like "Good find!.. or WOW!"

     

    So if you want to accuse people of making up issues about the game.. simply visit the bug-tracker and see with your own eyes.. these are ACTIVE bugs/exploits.. listed 2 weeks from launch...

     

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • BeordBeord Member Posts: 10
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Nasir64


    The person who submits the but selects what severity and a lot of times people misjudge or over react with this. Example
     
    4902 Category: AI (Creatures, NPCs etc)

    Title: Floating pets Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

    Bug Tools

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    Junior Member

    *******

    Today, 07:45

    Floating pets

    When you tame a pet and make it follow you over a ledge the pet floats in the air slowly falling back to the ground.
    I think this is not limited to pets but all NPC's.

    Reply With Quote
     
    MAJOR BUG, they float in the air...
     
    D: 4871 Category: Skills & Attributes

    Title: Skills Lost on log out Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

    Bug Tools

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    ******

    DeathDemon

    Yesterday, 02:11

    Skills Lost on log out

    At some point in my travels I lost my connection to the server. When I logged back in I no longer had the riding skill. My friend who was at my house (Ishamael) was dropped at the same time and lost his domestication skill. I have tried a relog but the skills have not reappeared.

    Reply With Quote
     
    Known bug for a few weeks now and easily fixed with a relog.... but apparently its MAJOR
     
    Last time I submitted a but it was fixed next patch very prompt.
     



     

    OK.. how about little ones like this.. since you want to pick and choose:

    XXXXXX = Flying Character

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Here's how to duplicate this bug:

    1. XXX

    2. XXXX.

    3. XXXXX

    4. Your screen freezes, but your character in game goes flying into the air.

    5. Let go of the mouse button, and your client resumes from your last known position.

    This causes your screen to freeze, and most likely stops sending information to the server. This causes your character to fly straight up into the air until you let go of the mouse button, then you return to your last known location, which is observed by all other players in the area.

    __________________

     

    OR:

    Dupe bug

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    It's a dupe bug, of sorts, which I did accidentally.

    1) XXX

    2) XXX.

    3) XXX

    4) When I logged back in, all of my items were rolled back, so I still had all my gold. The skills, however, did not roll back.

    I still have all the skills that I bought and all the gold that I bought them with.

    __________________

     

     

    OR:

     

    Always Grey Flagged after login, when it turns blue guards still kill me

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I am constantly grey flagged withouth doing anything bad.

    I log in and i am flagged light grey, when someone calls guards i die.

    when i am ghost i am light grey flagged, when i wait some time as ghost the flag turns blue, when i resurrect at a priest (flag was blue while being ghost) my flag turns light grey again - and again everybody can kill me when calling guards.

    when i am alive and the light grey flag turns blue again it it STILL NOT OVER - i can still be killed by guards by anyone.

    additionally my horse always has a dark grey flag when i tame a new one for example and it never gets blue, and the guards can kill it.

     

    ------------

    Or:

    Logged in to another's account!!!

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    At the character selection screen I was presented with three characters that were not mine. I selected one and attempted to enter the world. I did this to see if what would happen, having no ill intent. Fortunatly, I was not able to enter the game this time. The game never progressed past the loading screen. However, with the current server instability, this might have been due to a server problem. I feel that this is a very serious account security issue.

     

    OR:

    5 second Loot timer - Duping still possible

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Currently it is still possible to dupe, even after the introduction of the 5 second loot timer.

    Under laggy conditions, if 2 (or possibly more) XXXXXXX, it can happen that both of them will get the loot window up.

    Items can then be looted twice.

    I suppose it would be possible to reproduce this by XXXXXXXX.

    Fix please

     

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

     

    Now these are all PUBLICLY visible on the bug tracker (no NDA) but I edited out the steps just to be sure I am not accused of promoting exploiting.  feel free to visit the public bugtracker on the offifial site and view the steps yourselves.  Also, these bugs have been CONFIRMED and all but one have a dev response saying something like "Good find!.. or WOW!"

     

    So if you want to accuse people of making up issues about the game.. simply visit the bug-tracker and see with your own eyes.. these are ACTIVE bugs/exploits.. listed 2 weeks from launch...

     



     

    Can you name one game where there are zero bugs that can help abuse game mechanics?

    Any game where it's bug free and not being worked on anymore, game is complete?

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Nasir64


    The person who submits the but selects what severity and a lot of times people misjudge or over react with this. Example
     
    4902 Category: AI (Creatures, NPCs etc)

    Title: Floating pets Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

    Bug Tools

    Subscription Subscribe To This Bug
    Reply

    Junior Member

    *******

    Today, 07:45

    Floating pets

    When you tame a pet and make it follow you over a ledge the pet floats in the air slowly falling back to the ground.
    I think this is not limited to pets but all NPC's.

    Reply With Quote
     
    MAJOR BUG, they float in the air...
     
    D: 4871 Category: Skills & Attributes

    Title: Skills Lost on log out Status: New / Unconfirmed

    Severity: Major Version: v0.14.21.27

    Assigned To: N/A

    Bug Tools

    Subscription Subscribe To This Bug
    Reply

    ******

    DeathDemon

    Yesterday, 02:11

    Skills Lost on log out

    At some point in my travels I lost my connection to the server. When I logged back in I no longer had the riding skill. My friend who was at my house (Ishamael) was dropped at the same time and lost his domestication skill. I have tried a relog but the skills have not reappeared.

    Reply With Quote
     
    Known bug for a few weeks now and easily fixed with a relog.... but apparently its MAJOR
     
    Last time I submitted a but it was fixed next patch very prompt.
     



     

    OK.. how about little ones like this.. since you want to pick and choose:

    XXXXXX = Flying Character

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Here's how to duplicate this bug:

    1. XXX

    2. XXXX.

    3. XXXXX

    4. Your screen freezes, but your character in game goes flying into the air.

    5. Let go of the mouse button, and your client resumes from your last known position.

    This causes your screen to freeze, and most likely stops sending information to the server. This causes your character to fly straight up into the air until you let go of the mouse button, then you return to your last known location, which is observed by all other players in the area.

    __________________

     

    OR:

    Dupe bug

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    It's a dupe bug, of sorts, which I did accidentally.

    1) XXX

    2) XXX.

    3) XXX

    4) When I logged back in, all of my items were rolled back, so I still had all my gold. The skills, however, did not roll back.

    I still have all the skills that I bought and all the gold that I bought them with.

    __________________

     

     

    OR:

     

    Always Grey Flagged after login, when it turns blue guards still kill me

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I am constantly grey flagged withouth doing anything bad.

    I log in and i am flagged light grey, when someone calls guards i die.

    when i am ghost i am light grey flagged, when i wait some time as ghost the flag turns blue, when i resurrect at a priest (flag was blue while being ghost) my flag turns light grey again - and again everybody can kill me when calling guards.

    when i am alive and the light grey flag turns blue again it it STILL NOT OVER - i can still be killed by guards by anyone.

    additionally my horse always has a dark grey flag when i tame a new one for example and it never gets blue, and the guards can kill it.

     

    ------------

    Or:

    Logged in to another's account!!!

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    At the character selection screen I was presented with three characters that were not mine. I selected one and attempted to enter the world. I did this to see if what would happen, having no ill intent. Fortunatly, I was not able to enter the game this time. The game never progressed past the loading screen. However, with the current server instability, this might have been due to a server problem. I feel that this is a very serious account security issue.

     

    OR:

    5 second Loot timer - Duping still possible

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Currently it is still possible to dupe, even after the introduction of the 5 second loot timer.

    Under laggy conditions, if 2 (or possibly more) XXXXXXX, it can happen that both of them will get the loot window up.

    Items can then be looted twice.

    I suppose it would be possible to reproduce this by XXXXXXXX.

    Fix please

     

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

     

    Now these are all PUBLICLY visible on the bug tracker (no NDA) but I edited out the steps just to be sure I am not accused of promoting exploiting.  feel free to visit the public bugtracker on the offifial site and view the steps yourselves.  Also, these bugs have been CONFIRMED and all but one have a dev response saying something like "Good find!.. or WOW!"

     

    So if you want to accuse people of making up issues about the game.. simply visit the bug-tracker and see with your own eyes.. these are ACTIVE bugs/exploits.. listed 2 weeks from launch...

     

     

    Problem is everyones been so rapped up in the lag/sync issues many other big issues have been overlooked.

     

    BTW, some of the working dupes were reported MONTHS ago.

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by HanoverZ



     

    Problem is everyones been so rapped up in the lag/sync issues many other big issues have been overlooked.

     

    BTW, some of the working dupes were reported MONTHS ago.

     

    Have faith in Starvault, Monday's patch will fix all the problems!  It will fix lag, fix dupes, fix flying horses, fix flying people, fix broken skills, fix everything else that is broken! 

     

    Have faith! 

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by HanoverZ



     

    Problem is everyones been so rapped up in the lag/sync issues many other big issues have been overlooked.

     

    BTW, some of the working dupes were reported MONTHS ago.

     

    Have faith in Starvault, Monday's patch will fix all the problems!  It will fix lag, fix dupes, fix flying horses, fix flying people, fix broken skills, fix everything else that is broken! 

     

    Have faith! 

     

    Miracle patch V3,0?    I'm looking forward to "Monday" !

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Originally posted by Beord




     
    Can you name one game where there are zero bugs that can help abuse game mechanics?
    Any game where it's bug free and not being worked on anymore, game is complete?



     

    This was a reply to someone who said: "The others claim the game is horrible, but list info that is either incorrect or vague with nothing solid to back it up."

     

    So I just listed a few of the 933 bugs on the public bug-tracker.  While all games launch with some bugs.. most don't have page after page of critical/major ones like those I listed above.  What's worse is that these are posted publicly so every player has access to the info on dupes.. the flying... etc...

    Those are the reported ones.. wait till release day when people start to abuse the ones they have kept to themselves.  Let's just say there are going to be a lot of night-time archers with an uncanny ability to see targets...

     

     

     

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Beord




     
    Can you name one game where there are zero bugs that can help abuse game mechanics?
    Any game where it's bug free and not being worked on anymore, game is complete?



     

    This was a reply to someone who said: "The others claim the game is horrible, but list info that is either incorrect or vague with nothing solid to back it up."

     

    So I just listed a few of the 933 bugs on the public bug-tracker.  While all games launch with some bugs.. most don't have page after page of critical/major ones like those I listed above.  What's worse is that these are posted publicly so every player has access to the info on dupes.. the flying... etc...

    Those are the reported ones.. wait till release day when people start to abuse the ones they have kept to themselves.  Let's just say there are going to be a lot of night-time archers with an uncanny ability to see targets...

     

     

     

     

    When I beta tested WoW there were MUCH MUCH worse bugs than listed in that bug tracker. Please stop making something out of nothing because there's nothing that you can compare to. Mortal Online is being made by a small indie staff who believe in what they're making (watch their relaxed-interviews about the game).

    More likely, the bug tracker has 913 "minor" or duplicate bug reports that are the norm during a development process, but the other 20ish bugs are probably major bugs. This is how it normally is with a larger team as well, however a larger team would have MORE bugs due to pushing out content faster/in bulk.

    The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
    Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Beord




     
    Can you name one game where there are zero bugs that can help abuse game mechanics?
    Any game where it's bug free and not being worked on anymore, game is complete?



     

    This was a reply to someone who said: "The others claim the game is horrible, but list info that is either incorrect or vague with nothing solid to back it up."

     

    So I just listed a few of the 933 bugs on the public bug-tracker.  While all games launch with some bugs.. most don't have page after page of critical/major ones like those I listed above.  What's worse is that these are posted publicly so every player has access to the info on dupes.. the flying... etc...

    Those are the reported ones.. wait till release day when people start to abuse the ones they have kept to themselves.  Let's just say there are going to be a lot of night-time archers with an uncanny ability to see targets...

     

     

     

     

    Reported exploits are just the beginning.

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • Miles-ProwerMiles-Prower Member Posts: 1,106
    Originally posted by Beord


    So no facts, just opinions...
    Everyone has one, true enough.
    What I heard here about the trolls was correct I guess.
     
    And yea, I can change the gamma on my monitor too.  Can see just fine at night, what an exploit eh?



    What? That Trolls have opinions or that trolls are using their opinions to create the illusion that it's fact? Or are you just saying that anyone who says something negative about the game is a troll? Not sure I follow.



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  • BeordBeord Member Posts: 10

    Some people will stay away due to not liking the game.

    Some will wait a few months to see how the patching goes.

    Some will continue to play, and pay for they like the game.

     

    Darkfall was the same exact thing when release was on it's way.

    As I said, gamebreaking to some, is not to others.

     

     

  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Beord




     
    Can you name one game where there are zero bugs that can help abuse game mechanics?
    Any game where it's bug free and not being worked on anymore, game is complete?



     

    This was a reply to someone who said: "The others claim the game is horrible, but list info that is either incorrect or vague with nothing solid to back it up."

     

    So I just listed a few of the 933 bugs on the public bug-tracker.  While all games launch with some bugs.. most don't have page after page of critical/major ones like those I listed above.  What's worse is that these are posted publicly so every player has access to the info on dupes.. the flying... etc...

    Those are the reported ones.. wait till release day when people start to abuse the ones they have kept to themselves.  Let's just say there are going to be a lot of night-time archers with an uncanny ability to see targets...

     

     

     

     

    When I beta tested WoW there were MUCH MUCH worse bugs than listed in that bug tracker. Please stop making something out of nothing because there's nothing that you can compare to. Mortal Online is being made by a small indie staff who believe in what they're making (watch their relaxed-interviews about the game).

    More likely, the bug tracker has 913 "minor" or "Duplicate" bugs that are the norm during a development process, but the other 20ish bugs are probably major bugs. This is how it normally is with a larger team as well, however a larger team would have MORE bugs due to pushing out content faster/in bulk.

     

    Guess you missed the post about the game going live in less than two weeks.

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



     

    When I beta tested WoW there were MUCH MUCH worse bugs than listed in that bug tracker. Please stop making something out of nothing because there's nothing that you can compare to. Mortal Online is being made by a small indie staff who believe in what they're making (watch their relaxed-interviews about the game).



     

    Can't compare a  game from 2004 to a game from 2010...

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  • illanadanillanadan Member Posts: 314
    Originally posted by olepi


    I bought a lifetime sub to a game that was not even near finished.
    I played the LoTRO beta, and loved it! Even though I knew there were more "Books" to come out, and the game was unfinished, I knew I wanted to play it. I also believed Turbine was a reputable company, and what they had produced was of great quality.
    So yes, if MO was being done by a large reputable company, and if what they have already produced in beta was of very high quality, I would be tempted to sub to an unfinished game.

     

    I was in the LoTRO beta to and you can't even compare the two. Heck, you couldn't really even compare the LoTRO ALPHA to MO Open Beta.

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  • Miles-ProwerMiles-Prower Member Posts: 1,106
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



     

    When I beta tested WoW there were MUCH MUCH worse bugs than listed in that bug tracker. Please stop making something out of nothing because there's nothing that you can compare to. Mortal Online is being made by a small indie staff who believe in what they're making (watch their relaxed-interviews about the game).



     

    Can't compare a  game from 2004 to a game from 2010...

     

    I kind of have to agree here. 6 years of MMORPGs is a lot of time to correct issues. I'd also like to say that using the "Indie" card is getting stale. We all know the game is Indie, but how many times can you use that excuse before it loses its value?

    That's like going into a poker tournament as a complete newbie and saying "I'd win if I knew how to play the game better" every time you lose.

    (Yeah, that's a bad analogy. =P)



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  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081
    Originally posted by Miles-Prower

    Originally posted by Beord


    So no facts, just opinions...
    Everyone has one, true enough.
    What I heard here about the trolls was correct I guess.
     
    And yea, I can change the gamma on my monitor too.  Can see just fine at night, what an exploit eh?



    What? That Trolls have opinions or that trolls are using their opinions to create the illusion that it's fact? Or are you just saying that anyone who says something negative about the game is a troll? Not sure I follow.



    ~Miles "Tails" Prower out! Catch me if you can!

     

    You're the only one trying to "create an illusion". You sound as if you haven't even played the game for more than an hour, and then went "ya, they're trying to TRICK ME!".



    Come on, SV isn't one of those "evil" indie companies just in it for the buck. Even the dreaded Dark & Light staff made it VERY clear in the beta they were in it for the money. Hell, by mid beta they even KNEW they were in some mad deep crap with their game. I should know, I was in the beta from the very beginning. What most paid for I got to see first hand until I eventually paid for it myself :(. So I know exactly what you're talking about in reference to "thieving indie companies".

    Having seen what fake/lieing indie companies have done in the past I can easily tell you SV isn't one of them as cliche as that sounds. So please, stop trying to wage a war against nothing Miles as it's starting to look silly my friend.

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



     

    When I beta tested WoW there were MUCH MUCH worse bugs than listed in that bug tracker. Please stop making something out of nothing because there's nothing that you can compare to. Mortal Online is being made by a small indie staff who believe in what they're making (watch their relaxed-interviews about the game).



     

    Can't compare a  game from 2004 to a game from 2010...

     

    Bugs in what stage of WOW beta vs open bugs in a game releasing in 2 weeks or less.

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



     

    When I beta tested WoW there were MUCH MUCH worse bugs than listed in that bug tracker. Please stop making something out of nothing because there's nothing that you can compare to. Mortal Online is being made by a small indie staff who believe in what they're making (watch their relaxed-interviews about the game).



     

    Can't compare a  game from 2004 to a game from 2010...



     

    Also.. did WoW post a few dupe bugs publicly and not fix them before release?  Maybe they did, I honestly don't know.  But having publicly posted Dupe Bugs with steps to accomplish them.. and leaving them in at launch doesn't sound like a solid development move to me...

     

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

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