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Will FFXIV suck as horribly as FFXIII does ?
neysuishere
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Will FFXIV suck as horribly as FFXIII does ?
I am disgusted at how bad FFXIII is ... to the point of returning it after around 15hours of gameplay.
Biggest waste of money i've spent on a video game ever.
Long standing FF fan
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I like it far better than X-2 or XII but I can understand the distaste. Still no overworld exploration since FF 9, this makes me cry. But I don't think you can really base FFXIV on FFXIII except for the similarity in graphics and controls.
FFXI is very different from any other FF game, if anything use that as a measuring stick for FFXIV since FFXIV practically looks like a direct sequel. Which is a good thing.
You obviously haven't made it to Gran Pulse yet. That's when the game really opens up and lets you explore to your heart's content. Everything before that is completely linear and exists only to serve the story. (Which is a fun story). If XIV is half as good as XIII, I will be happy.
Hmm comparing a singleplayer turnbased RPG vs an MMORPG may be a bad way to compare the 2 games. You would be better to compare FFXI to FF14. If you have not played FFXI, you really do not have much to base it on. FFXI was not a game for everyone, nor did it play like any other Final Fantasy. FF14 is looking really good and hopefully they will make 14 a more accessible game.
No to answer the post shortly. FF14 will not suck as much as FF13.
Leme edit my post by saying I never played 13 and I am very biased towards the MMO, so...my opinion really doesn't matter. I am just bored and work.
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I agree with the posts so far, perhaps i shouldn't be hanging on my bad experiences with XIII and instead hoping for an updated and improved XI
Thanks guys
...and everything after Gran Pulse is just as linear too.
The early part of Ch11, is only that one large zone, which after you run around it a bit; is not as large as it seems when you first step in there. It only serves two purposes though, a great place to lvl up your characters easily, and for the completionist, provides about 60+ hrs of additional content through special missions that are all basically boss fights, some of which are extremely difficult.
I enjoyed the story in FFXIII, but the linear design was boring and horrible...had FFXIII been designed entirely in Gran Pulse style it would have been one of the best FF ever.
The only thing that is similar between FFXIII and FFXIV ~ they are both using the new Crystal Tools Engine that Square-Enix built a few years ago, but you can clearly see they are both very different in style. Most of all though FFXIV is an MMO and mirrors that of FFXI...so expect large open zoned fields and plenty of towns and dungeons to explore.
Alot of things I don't like about FFXIII but strangly I'm still enjoying it. I hate the sci-fi look, the transformer summons >.>, its linear, the crystarium, changing paradigms are things that I don't like because I'm old school FF players since the days of the 1st one on nes. Even though I don't like em I find them interesting and I'm enjoying the story. Like other posters said you can't compare and offline RPG to a MMORPG.
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SE just tried something different this game then in the past as they always do, and some stuff was cool while many things were kinda out there for me esp. the robotic design of almost everything in the game WTF were they thinking. It could have also used an open world as well. But no FFXIV will not be like FFXIII simply because is an MMO and SE loves to change things up constantly so expect a whole new experience even from FFXI, though some things will be similar you can be sure SE has quite a few surprises up their sleeves.
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XIII is a love/hate scenario but I can understand why a lot of people were disappointed with it. Having said that FFXI and FFXIV are developed by an entirely different team to the console FFs. The only things the games share are themes and mechanics (like the job/class system). The gameplay inevitably will be vastly different simply because it's an MMO and considering how much the game is clearly based on XI I'd say giving XI a go would tell you all you need to know about the basic feel of XIV. There's not really any chance XIV will be like XIII...
I love the game and having a blast playing. That cancels out your opinion right? Right!
As for FFXIV, I hope you're on a different server.
4 millions copies sold 3 weeks after release...
I hope it will suck as horribly as FFXIII.
Nicely put sir
Really? You hope she's on a different server just because she doesn't like FFXIII?
I'm sorry she insulted "your game" but she didn't say anything offensive in my opinion.
Do you really want a server where everyone thinks exactly like you do?
For the record, I am a HUGE Final Fantasy fan (just look at my name and avatar) but I found XIII to be terribly disappointing compared to past games. If you like it, that's great, but I don't think people should have to be blindly loyal to every game with "Final Fantasy" slapped on it.
Have fun on the Stepford server
Yah, people like to play with players that share similar mindset as theirs. Is this some new revelation to you?
Making a topic about his subjective opinion, not giving enough proof or examples to back up his point, basically, it's just a rant and a very poor one at that. I would never like to play with a guy like that. Being able to put a convincing argument goes a long way for me.
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Yes i feel the same i endured many more hours,i even succumb to farming but finally i said enough is enough.
Although many have point out it is an entirely different team,that doesn't really mean squat.They have already said they will use MANY ideas from their console games,with just different twists.I was even shocked to see that Nyzul isle is not a new idea,it was in another Square game from several years ago,just not in the FF series,so ya they really use ideas from all their games.
I could be wrong but i get the distinct feeling graphics are going to be done alot like FFXIII,not in all cases but a lot of the time.By this i mean those fake backdrops,that you really only look at from some railed off balcony or some invisible wall ect ect.
Everyone is waiting to see the combat,it might disappoint and be a lot like the faster paced FFXIII,i hope not,i thought FFXI combat speed was perfect.
Personally i would have fully supported,heck even paid 5 year subscription for another FFXI but revamped with better graphics and expand on what was already a brilliant game design.Yes there was a lot of room to make FFXI even better,i don't much like the direction of FFXIV trying to be a totally different game,it is hit and miss just like with the console games ,i liked 8/9/X hated X-2 ho hum on the next and did not like Last Remnant at all,and like i said Square DOES use ideas from all their console games.
I realize after FFXI did so very much for creativity and design it is really hard to come up with new ideas,maybe perhaps it is time they finished the FF series and just made a new online game,well actually that is happening ,they are making a MMO with their new acquisition Ubisoft.
holy smokes had to edit some typos that i have no idea how they were so bad,not even close to the same keys bah .
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Lol, it's funny that just because someone disagrees with you on one game, you just assume that the person has nothing else in common with you or doesn't "share a similar mindset". Sounds pretty small-minded to me.
It's not like the OP came on saying "I know FFXIV is going to suck because...". Instead, she asked a question.
Was she venting against FFXIII? Sure. But it hardly seemed offensive at all and for you and others to get so bent out of shape from the OP's post is sad.
People make posts about their subjective opinions all of the time on these forums. As long as its not being presented as fact (which it was not), what is the big deal? So it sounds silly to demand "proof" for one's opinion. Also, by now, it is common knowledge that a lot of people are disappointed with FFXIII.
My initial post wasn't even directed at you but you now sound like someone who will have a problem with anyone who dislikes any Final Fantasy game or anyone who has a different opinion than you on even one thing.
Did you read my post or not? Him disliking FFXIII is not why I wouldn't want to play with him. That rant tells more about him than just the fact that he dislikes XIII. Not liking a game or a serie has never been a reason for me to not like someone.
Yes, he was venting on FFXIII. On an FFXIV forum. No argument, no proof, no evidence. Just pure ranting. Yes, that is offensive to me.
Now had he actually implied that it's his opinion and not a fact that FFXIII sucks, I wouldn't have been as harsh. It was not presented as fact? I took it as such. Nothing in that post implies that it's his opinion, not a fact. He even backs up his point by saying he's a "long standing FF fan". So he knows what he's talking about. Yeah.
I demand nothing. I am only questioning why he came to these forums to vent about the game. I see nothing more but an attempt at flaming.
Weird that I wouldn't want to play with people like that.
Yes, I have a problem with guys that come to forums that have nothing to do with the game and attempt to flame it. How you figure this mean I have a problem with everyone not liking Final Fantasy I don't know. Maybe it's because I disagreed with you. But let me tell you this: you != everyone else.
MOST FF Fans, I won't say ALL, just most, are some of the more riligiously fanatical zealot fanbois this planet has ever seen.
Even the SWG vets pale in comparison to this group of gamers.
It doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't matter what you do. It doesn't matter if you are 100% right or 100% wrong, they believe what they want and noone will ever change that.
SE could make a FF game that once inserted into your console displays the logo then self destructs taking out the console and the tv with it, and these fans would come on here and swear it was the best thing since sliced bread.
XIII was horrible. Very short compared to the previous installments in the series. VERY Linear for the first half if not more of the game, and basically very boring as you are doing nothing more than watching a linear digital movie.
That is my opinion however, and others are entitled to theirs.
The OP asked a question, and a very legit question will 14 suck as bad a 13. Well we really don't know, but with the recent track record of SE the last few years putting out "not so great" FF games, many have a reason for concern.
FF Fans need to remember this. Fans are fans, some just aren't as blind as others. Some are not biased.
I am a HUGE FF Fan but there have been some of them released recently that aren't worth the plastic they are printed on.
For every blind fan in the world there is one who can see. It is just very hard for the seeing fans to get the point across to those who wish to stay intentionally blind.
That's so true. Even the console fanboys pale in comparison.
However, the fact that makes the FF fanboys the worst, is that there's not just ONE group of them- there's two.
There are those who love every game with FF title blindly.
Then there are those who "love FF, but after FF[insert number ranging from 6 to 10 here] they're all shit."
They're all just as bad.
Just because you're a fan, you're not right.
Be a fan that looks at things objectively, and you might actually be right.
Nothing you said made any sense what-so-ever....
If it was a stab back at me for whatever reason, you would have to show me proof where I said "love FF, but everything after FF# sucks"
I do not remember making such a statement. I did say FF13 sucked balls. I also didn't care for FF12 very much. There have been other FF games though across other platforms that were decent.
I actually do look at every FF game objectively which is why I spend the money to purchase every single one of them myself before I judge it.
My point was, some people when it comes to FF, wouldn't matter if there wasn't a game there at all just a title screen, because FF is on the box, it is the best thing ever made. I see a lot of that here.
Hm, I kinda meant to speak in a general sense, I did not necessarily mean you were like that.
My point was, that there are two kind of "bad" fanboys out there. Both groups are retarded.
I would agree with that, but I didn't see the OP make a broad statement about anything other than not liking FF13(his or her opinion) and hoping FF14 doesn't follow in the footsteps of FF13.
Not really sure a MMO can follow in the footsteps exactly of a console, but it is still a legitimate concern.
FF13 was a great game to clear through. Once you get good and really understand chains / pardigrams etc the combat is quite good and has a good fast pace. By the end of the game I was using every combo imaginable in the tougher fights and really enjoyd the combat, plus when you get far the crystal;ium stuff opens up to you and you can take any char down any role path so there is a lot of cool combos to try.
Of course this is just my opinion but I really enjoyd the game if any complaint was to short cleard it in about 32 hrs playd but was fun.
It is a legitimate concern if you didn't like XIII. If only he hadn't presented his concern in such an eh... extreme way.
The replies kinda tend to be extreme, after that!