Ghost Town - Server merge?

Broomy

I recently resubbed to EQ2.  I played it at launch and for 2 1/2 years after before taking a break.  I was very curious about the expac so I just threw myself into it, bought the expac and resubbed.  My character is only 74 so I have about 6 levels before I can see the new content.  All I can say is the games a ghost town.  Nothing in chat, I dont see other players (Im exping in Fen and Moors) and the cities are abandoned.  Its depressing. 

 

Has SOE thought about another server merge?  I know there are guild halls and housing that people spend time in, but to not see ONE other player in 2 hours of playing ???  Its like being the only player in an MMO   Anyway I ended up unsubbing.  Seems you can't go back. 

Vxar

What server are you on? I'm on Antonia Bayle and it's very much alive.  It's hard not to find other people running around.  Any are from the newb zones all the way to the high end content seems to always have at least a few people.  Did you think about joining a guild as well? Joining a guild will help out a lot.

Moirae

Not again. There is no need for a server merge. The game is busy.

1. Only a certain number of people are allowed to be in a single zone. When the game exceeds that number, it automatically creates a new zone by the same name to prevent lag.

2. No one has to actually go into the city's at all anymore. You can automatically zone to your guild, and automatically zone into your house.

3. No one is in the lower zones for more than a few days. You can go from level 1 to 30 in a week so they move on to the more difficult zones.

4. The oldest zones are Freeport and Qeynos. They also aren't the most fun zones. Most people prefer to start in Neriak, Timorous Deep or Faedark. Timorous Deep has the best starting zone of all of them but you go from level 1 to level 20 in about 3 or 4 hours.

5. Remember that people play in the evenings, usually after dinner and on the weekend. Most of the players in this game are NOT kids, they are adults, with jobs and families. That means that you will not see many people on during the day.

Now how about we not see any more claims "this game is dead"?

Broomy

Originally posted by Moirae

Not again. There is no need for a server merge. The game is busy.

1. Only a certain number of people are allowed to be in a single zone. When the game exceeds that number, it automatically creates a new zone by the same name to prevent lag.

2. No one has to actually go into the city's at all anymore. You can automatically zone to your guild, and automatically zone into your house.

3. No one is in the lower zones for more than a few days. You can go from level 1 to 30 in a week so they move on to the more difficult zones.

4. The oldest zones are Freeport and Qeynos. They also aren't the most fun zones. Most people prefer to start in Neriak, Timorous Deep or Faedark. Timorous Deep has the best starting zone of all of them but you go from level 1 to level 20 in about 3 or 4 hours.

5. Remember that people play in the evenings, usually after dinner and on the weekend. Most of the players in this game are NOT kids, they are adults, with jobs and families. That means that you will not see many people on during the day.

Now how about we not see any more claims "this game is dead"?

 Who said "the game was dead?"  Learn to read before you make the wrong allegation.  I said it's a ghost town...ie: No one's around.  Didnt I mention the housing and instancing playing a role in that? 

 

And your not telling me anything I dont already know.  I played at launch remember?  Very little has changed (and I'm not saying that is a bad thing in itself).  But after playing for several hours and not seeing another player in the time period please understand that its less than inspiring, especially since this is a MMO. 

 

You remind me of another aspect of EQ2 that I had forgotten, Nasty Attitudes amoungst these so called "adults".  The main thing I remember about the "adults" in EQ2 is that most seemed to be out of work.  Good to see that some are now employed.  Well at least according to you. 

delete5230

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by Moirae

Not again. There is no need for a server merge. The game is busy.

1. Only a certain number of people are allowed to be in a single zone. When the game exceeds that number, it automatically creates a new zone by the same name to prevent lag.

2. No one has to actually go into the city's at all anymore. You can automatically zone to your guild, and automatically zone into your house.

3. No one is in the lower zones for more than a few days. You can go from level 1 to 30 in a week so they move on to the more difficult zones.

4. The oldest zones are Freeport and Qeynos. They also aren't the most fun zones. Most people prefer to start in Neriak, Timorous Deep or Faedark. Timorous Deep has the best starting zone of all of them but you go from level 1 to level 20 in about 3 or 4 hours.

5. Remember that people play in the evenings, usually after dinner and on the weekend. Most of the players in this game are NOT kids, they are adults, with jobs and families. That means that you will not see many people on during the day.

Now how about we not see any more claims "this game is dead"?

 Who said "the game was dead?"  Learn to read before you make the wrong allegation.  I said it's a ghost town...ie: No one's around.  Didnt I mention the housing and instancing playing a role in that? 

 

And your not telling me anything I dont already know.  I played at launch remember?  Very little has changed (and I'm not saying that is a bad thing in itself).  But after playing for several hours and not seeing another player in the time period please understand that its less than inspiring, especially since this is a MMO. 

 

You remind me of another aspect of EQ2 that I had forgotten, Nasty Attitudes amoungst these so called "adults".  The main thing I remember about the "adults" in EQ2 is that most seemed to be out of work.  Good to see that some are now employed.  Well at least according to you. 

 Good job Broomy,

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I understand what your saying regardless if the population is hidden, but  their anyway.  Regardless it's not as much fun if no one is around.

EQ2 is a good game, in-fact very good, but it's hard to make any friends at least to play with. I wish EQ2 would make a new server and HIGHLY SUGGEST new players to start their, and not allow character transfers.  That way people can all be on the same playing field without the high end players, and alternates of higher players that have tons of money, and closed off guilds.

I love the game,  I'm just waiting for something to eventually be done about the community before I come back.  But what ever it takes to fix this needs to be done by SOE.  It's out of the player's hands ( It's not really the peoples fault )

Bakgrind

Originally posted by Broomy

 

You remind me of another aspect of EQ2 that I had forgotten, Nasty Attitudes amoungst these so called "adults". 

I too just recently came back after a 5 year hiatus ( I left due to their first server merge. Damn Vanguard all to hell for scaring the folks at Sony that bad lol. But I have found the 'populated' server that they moved me to just a bit under populated as well. I had to quote and comment  on this particular sentence for it is one of the things that I had forgotten about the community as well that it made me look up my ignore list and found 43 people on it from  my 2 1/2 years of playing  it where as in WOW I only had 4 people on it in my 5 years of playing the game. Really priceless stuff. Thank you for the chuckle!

Moirae

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by Moirae

Not again. There is no need for a server merge. The game is busy.

1. Only a certain number of people are allowed to be in a single zone. When the game exceeds that number, it automatically creates a new zone by the same name to prevent lag.

2. No one has to actually go into the city's at all anymore. You can automatically zone to your guild, and automatically zone into your house.

3. No one is in the lower zones for more than a few days. You can go from level 1 to 30 in a week so they move on to the more difficult zones.

4. The oldest zones are Freeport and Qeynos. They also aren't the most fun zones. Most people prefer to start in Neriak, Timorous Deep or Faedark. Timorous Deep has the best starting zone of all of them but you go from level 1 to level 20 in about 3 or 4 hours.

5. Remember that people play in the evenings, usually after dinner and on the weekend. Most of the players in this game are NOT kids, they are adults, with jobs and families. That means that you will not see many people on during the day.

Now how about we not see any more claims "this game is dead"?

 Who said "the game was dead?"  Learn to read before you make the wrong allegation.  I said it's a ghost town...ie: No one's around.  Didnt I mention the housing and instancing playing a role in that? 

 

And your not telling me anything I dont already know.  I played at launch remember?  Very little has changed (and I'm not saying that is a bad thing in itself).  But after playing for several hours and not seeing another player in the time period please understand that its less than inspiring, especially since this is a MMO. 

 

You remind me of another aspect of EQ2 that I had forgotten, Nasty Attitudes amoungst these so called "adults".  The main thing I remember about the "adults" in EQ2 is that most seemed to be out of work.  Good to see that some are now employed.  Well at least according to you. 

You mean like you? I'm sick to death of the constant bashing. If you don't like the game, don't play it. Its what I did with Eve, AoC, WoW, CoH/V, and LOTRO. See.. I just left. I didn't raise a fuss and continue to go to the forums that belong to the game just to say how much the game sucks. See... NOT posting on forums that have nothing to do with the game about how much the game sucks is what adults do. Posting on the forums, just to say how much you think it sucks is NOT.

Yasou

I'd strongly recommend to join a guild. There are quite a few family-friendly guilds willing to help any returning players or newcomers (press U and select the guild which suits you best). I'm playing on Runnyeye (EU server) which is very busy in evenings and on weekends. Also join the 1-9 level channel, which is where most people hangout for tips & advice.

Unknown

Although WOW gets most of the attention, there are many things that EQ2 is way ahead of WOW on - graphics is the most obvious one. But guild halls, player housing, more types of quests - such as collections.

I have gone through most popular MMO's (WOW, EQ, DAOC etc), and the only game I ever keep coming back to is EQ2. I was away for about 15 months last time around, and the number of improvements in the game since then are pretty decent.

The one thing that EQ2 - and all older mmo's suffer from is that some older zones don't get a lot of traffic. But unlike most other games, SOE has gone back to many of the older zones and done updates and upgrades.

drbaltazar

yes on paper eq2 should be ahead graphicly but in the end the average user cant make it look as good as wow

in my book aika solution is a good medium

upclose it looks great without being a ressource hog

from afar who cares about not seeing a moskito at 10 distance

in the end eq2 looks worst

some idea they have are nice tho like using your computer setting that is brilliant i sure wish lot of game did this

view distance lol ,too far!hell in aika i could barly see my own shadow yep the distance was that short

but trust me whe you have massive pvp going on around you the last thing you want to see is the gnome in the last row cinema.

Daffid011

Originally posted by Laiina

Although WOW gets most of the attention, there are many things that EQ2 is way ahead of WOW on - graphics is the most obvious one. But guild halls, player housing, more types of quests - such as collections.

Strangely enough the guild halls and player housing as they are done in the game directly contribute in part to the problem the original poster is bringing up.  They have a negative impact on the game. 

As for quests I wouldn't agree with that.  Wow has a lot of mechanics like riding land/air vehicles that offer a lot of variety to quests.  Riding a dragon and burning down a village, eluding pursuers in mounted escape sequences, saving victims by swooping in from the sky, taking control of various npcs/vehicles and live jousting just to name some.  Also the ability to change the gameworld you play in forever based on completing quests via phasing (self only).

I think all of those are ahead of picking up glowing question marks on the ground, but each game has its own differences in quests for sure. 

 

drbaltazar

yes phazing,instance,etc are all nice!

where is the massive tho.it is branded as a MASSIVLY multiplayer online

so far a good majority of the game is multiplayer online,it isnt bad!but it need to be branded correctly

if i seek 70 % of massive pvp or massive pve i go in wow i expect that

its not there!

but ig i go in say aika .i ll find massive pvp very quick

it could also be massive pve,

but one constant is the massive as to be there in sufficient quantity to hearn the title of mmo

im no sure wow or a lot of other title can fulfill that req ,even tho they look better then aika

THEY ARE NOT MMO FOR THE MAIN PART! and the part that is like world raid pvp/pve in wow  is mostly dead

i agree tho that if this part was braught back to top level it would indead bring wow back in the very limited circle of true MMO!

but for now its just a simple mo!like the average other games are today!

gracefield

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by Moirae

Not again. There is no need for a server merge. The game is busy.

1. Only a certain number of people are allowed to be in a single zone. When the game exceeds that number, it automatically creates a new zone by the same name to prevent lag.

2. No one has to actually go into the city's at all anymore. You can automatically zone to your guild, and automatically zone into your house.

3. No one is in the lower zones for more than a few days. You can go from level 1 to 30 in a week so they move on to the more difficult zones.

4. The oldest zones are Freeport and Qeynos. They also aren't the most fun zones. Most people prefer to start in Neriak, Timorous Deep or Faedark. Timorous Deep has the best starting zone of all of them but you go from level 1 to level 20 in about 3 or 4 hours.

5. Remember that people play in the evenings, usually after dinner and on the weekend. Most of the players in this game are NOT kids, they are adults, with jobs and families. That means that you will not see many people on during the day.

Now how about we not see any more claims "this game is dead"?

 Who said "the game was dead?"  Learn to read before you make the wrong allegation.  I said it's a ghost town...ie: No one's around.  Didnt I mention the housing and instancing playing a role in that? 

 

And your not telling me anything I dont already know.  I played at launch remember?  Very little has changed (and I'm not saying that is a bad thing in itself).  But after playing for several hours and not seeing another player in the time period please understand that its less than inspiring, especially since this is a MMO. 

 

You remind me of another aspect of EQ2 that I had forgotten, Nasty Attitudes amoungst these so called "adults".  The main thing I remember about the "adults" in EQ2 is that most seemed to be out of work.  Good to see that some are now employed.  Well at least according to you. 

Well said, bro, that's slapped that know-all down good 'n' proper....

delete5230

Originally posted by gracefield

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by Moirae

Not again. There is no need for a server merge. The game is busy.

1. Only a certain number of people are allowed to be in a single zone. When the game exceeds that number, it automatically creates a new zone by the same name to prevent lag.

2. No one has to actually go into the city's at all anymore. You can automatically zone to your guild, and automatically zone into your house.

3. No one is in the lower zones for more than a few days. You can go from level 1 to 30 in a week so they move on to the more difficult zones.

4. The oldest zones are Freeport and Qeynos. They also aren't the most fun zones. Most people prefer to start in Neriak, Timorous Deep or Faedark. Timorous Deep has the best starting zone of all of them but you go from level 1 to level 20 in about 3 or 4 hours.

5. Remember that people play in the evenings, usually after dinner and on the weekend. Most of the players in this game are NOT kids, they are adults, with jobs and families. That means that you will not see many people on during the day.

Now how about we not see any more claims "this game is dead"?

 Who said "the game was dead?"  Learn to read before you make the wrong allegation.  I said it's a ghost town...ie: No one's around.  Didnt I mention the housing and instancing playing a role in that? 

 

And your not telling me anything I dont already know.  I played at launch remember?  Very little has changed (and I'm not saying that is a bad thing in itself).  But after playing for several hours and not seeing another player in the time period please understand that its less than inspiring, especially since this is a MMO. 

 

You remind me of another aspect of EQ2 that I had forgotten, Nasty Attitudes amoungst these so called "adults".  The main thing I remember about the "adults" in EQ2 is that most seemed to be out of work.  Good to see that some are now employed.  Well at least according to you. 

Well said, bro, that's slapped that know-all down good 'n' proper....

 Yes well said

pencilrick

Personally, I think Sony needs to stop throwing money at this game in the way of new expansions.  EQ III (Everquest Next) is in the works, and that's where they need to put their greater efforts.

Unknown

Originally posted by pencilrick

Personally, I think Sony needs to stop throwing money at this game in the way of new expansions.  EQ III (Everquest Next) is in the works, and that's where they need to put their greater efforts.

 EQ3 is NOT in the works. A new game by SOE is in the works, but it will not be EQ related.

As far as "throwing money" at it, you have totally different development teams. Stopping work on EQ2 will not help the other.

Unknown

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Laiina

Although WOW gets most of the attention, there are many things that EQ2 is way ahead of WOW on - graphics is the most obvious one. But guild halls, player housing, more types of quests - such as collections.

Strangely enough the guild halls and player housing as they are done in the game directly contribute in part to the problem the original poster is bringing up.  They have a negative impact on the game. 

As for quests I wouldn't agree with that.  Wow has a lot of mechanics like riding land/air vehicles that offer a lot of variety to quests.  Riding a dragon and burning down a village, eluding pursuers in mounted escape sequences, saving victims by swooping in from the sky, taking control of various npcs/vehicles and live jousting just to name some.  Also the ability to change the gameworld you play in forever based on completing quests via phasing (self only).

I think all of those are ahead of picking up glowing question marks on the ground, but each game has its own differences in quests for sure. 

 

 Air travel is the one area that WOW beats just about any other game around. EQ2 has made some steps in that direction, but has a long ways to go. And to be sure, some of the air bombing things are cool the first couple of times, but I never noticed anyone repeating them just because they were kind of neat.

That said, I just like the overall general atmosphere better in EQ2. After starting in EQ ages ago (with the massive 72 person raids they had back then), various other games with raid, raid, raid.. I just got burned out. I putz around and occasionally do an easy raid with guild for grins, but I will never go back to hardcore - and in WOW once you hit max level, there is not much else to do but raid and/or pvp unless you want to grind totally boring dailies 7 days a week.

Daffid011

In a sense of enjoying one game over the other for atmoshpere sure.  EQ2 brings back a lot of fond memories for myself, but I couldn't honesty say the quest system is more advanced.   Labelling something heritage or collection isn't a real big change or advancement. 

Considering all the new mechanics that have been added to wow that interact with the quests that go far beyond air travel.  Phasing, vehicles, stationary weapons, mounted combat/jousting, pc/npc abilities to directly interact with each other (move/pickup/join together).  Those mechanics advanced the options available in quests and how a game plays. 

 

Sort of off topic though. 

Unknown

Where and in what point did that OP "bash" the game? I think someone is a bit sensitive...all that was said is that Broomy saw few people and sees that as a problem for a MMORPG. So, I see one guy replying and jumping to the conclusion that this thread is about bashing...ever wondered why the others reply in a relaxed, more helpful manner?

Broomy

Originally posted by Moirae

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by Moirae

Not again. There is no need for a server merge. The game is busy.

1. Only a certain number of people are allowed to be in a single zone. When the game exceeds that number, it automatically creates a new zone by the same name to prevent lag.

2. No one has to actually go into the city's at all anymore. You can automatically zone to your guild, and automatically zone into your house.

3. No one is in the lower zones for more than a few days. You can go from level 1 to 30 in a week so they move on to the more difficult zones.

4. The oldest zones are Freeport and Qeynos. They also aren't the most fun zones. Most people prefer to start in Neriak, Timorous Deep or Faedark. Timorous Deep has the best starting zone of all of them but you go from level 1 to level 20 in about 3 or 4 hours.

5. Remember that people play in the evenings, usually after dinner and on the weekend. Most of the players in this game are NOT kids, they are adults, with jobs and families. That means that you will not see many people on during the day.

Now how about we not see any more claims "this game is dead"?

 Who said "the game was dead?"  Learn to read before you make the wrong allegation.  I said it's a ghost town...ie: No one's around.  Didnt I mention the housing and instancing playing a role in that? 

 

And your not telling me anything I dont already know.  I played at launch remember?  Very little has changed (and I'm not saying that is a bad thing in itself).  But after playing for several hours and not seeing another player in the time period please understand that its less than inspiring, especially since this is a MMO. 

 

You remind me of another aspect of EQ2 that I had forgotten, Nasty Attitudes amoungst these so called "adults".  The main thing I remember about the "adults" in EQ2 is that most seemed to be out of work.  Good to see that some are now employed.  Well at least according to you. 

You mean like you? I'm sick to death of the constant bashing. If you don't like the game, don't play it. Its what I did with Eve, AoC, WoW, CoH/V, and LOTRO. See.. I just left. I didn't raise a fuss and continue to go to the forums that belong to the game just to say how much the game sucks. See... NOT posting on forums that have nothing to do with the game about how much the game sucks is what adults do. Posting on the forums, just to say how much you think it sucks is NOT.

[Mod Edit]

There has been talk of server merges again however according to the devs they need to work on some server issues before doing so.  Any further mergers are put on hold.  Read up on this in EQ2Wire.  And thats very unfortunate.  I'll probably stick around to see Halas but thats about it. 

 

Nepentheia

Originally posted by Laiina

Originally posted by pencilrick

Personally, I think Sony needs to stop throwing money at this game in the way of new expansions.  EQ III (Everquest Next) is in the works, and that's where they need to put their greater efforts.

 EQ3 is NOT in the works. A new game by SOE is in the works, but it will not be EQ related.

As far as "throwing money" at it, you have totally different development teams. Stopping work on EQ2 will not help the other.

 

Hmmm... it appears Everquest Next apparently is in the works, according to this article:

http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story=19260

 

and this article:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/83055/page/5

I also asked him about the future of EverQuest and "EverQuest 'Next' " which was leaked out in the game's Anniversary book last year. What is "EverQuest 'Next'?"



"It’s what it sounds like," Smedley said. "We’re not going to stand still with the EverQuest franchise. We’re working with it now and we’re going to take it to the next level. We intend for it to be the game of the century – you watch."

rznkain

Originally posted by Vxar

What server are you on? I'm on Antonia Bayle and it's very much alive.  It's hard not to find other people running around.  Any are from the newb zones all the way to the high end content seems to always have at least a few people.  Did you think about joining a guild as well? Joining a guild will help out a lot.

 I agree with that i have some friends who play on AB wanted me to transfer over i made a new char there first to check it out glad I did.Nothing personal but ooc chat there is worse than WoW trade or barrens chat its like all the rejects from WoW all joined AB server funny thing is it's supp to be designated rp server and the ppl there are so dang rude and obnoxious its not even funny I will stay on dead guk before I had to deal with the ppl on AB.

rznkain

Originally posted by Laiina

Originally posted by pencilrick

Personally, I think Sony needs to stop throwing money at this game in the way of new expansions.  EQ III (Everquest Next) is in the works, and that's where they need to put their greater efforts.

 EQ3 is NOT in the works. A new game by SOE is in the works, but it will not be EQ related.

As far as "throwing money" at it, you have totally different development teams. Stopping work on EQ2 will not help the other.

 Umm yea thats real smartt considering EQ2 is more than likely the mmog they have that has the most subs and playerbase would be totally smart to stop devloping it watch it bleed subs for the next 1-2 years .

crysent

I have no idea what server your playing on, I play on Anotionia Bayle and on Nagafin both are over crowded, espcially Antonia which is to crowded.

Nadia

Originally posted by Broomy

To everyone else....

There has been talk of server merges again however according to the devs they need to work on some server issues before doing so.  Any further mergers are put on hold.  Read up on this in EQ2Wire.  And thats very unfortunate.  I'll probably stick around to see Halas but thats about it. 

 

im not playing EQ2 at the moment but I do enjoy that game

 

regarding this commentary, the same fansite posted that subs were on the RISE too

http://eq2wire.feldoncentral.com/2010/04/13/subscription-numbers-on-the-rise-server-mergers-on-the-horizon/

in response to someone claiming that Server merges = Dieing population,

Rothgar responded with:

This is most definitely not the case.  Our subscription numbers are on the rise.

The addition of easier character transfers through the Station Marketplace has made population numbers more liquid than in the past.  We are seeing players migrate towards higher population servers like Antonia Bayle and Crushbone. 

In fact I’d be willing to bet that AB currently has a higher population than it has ever had in the history of EQII.

In order to stabilize the population, we’d like to increase the numbers across all servers and the easiest way to do that would be to merge some of the lower population servers making more “super servers” like Antonia Bayle.

delete5230

Originally posted by TheBlackWolf

Funny how you keep talking about the poor attitudes of adults Gloomy when you are displaying a far poorer attitude now than anyone else in this thread.  And wow threatening to report someone for their opinion instead of just letting it roll off your back, thats very adult like behavior isn't it? Just like telling someone to "Now go lie down your obviously upset."  That post seem to be far more aggressive than the one you replied to, which only referenced you one time.  You also never answered anyones question about what server you were on.  Not that i can help with this discussion as i don't currently play EQ2. The only reason im posting is because of the rampant hypocrisy i saw, and if reporting me for any of this makes you feel like the adult, go ahead, I don't mind, so report away

 The person Broomy is referring too often slams anyone that speaks of EQ2 in any negative way.  Sure I could understand when some points are wrong, however many have valid points to be brought to the table.

mmorpg.com is an open MMO message board, for people to speak their mind GOOD or BAD. You should be able to see both sides of the story here.  People should be able to come here to read debates, and formulate for them selfs if they would like to try a game.  Yes, their are many other topics for discussion, and question, but its for ANYONE.

Game play main web sites are for all the goody stuff.  Some people think they own the game, even if so the owners should not be here.  Trolling can be done on both sides, and Broomy did nothing wrong ! 

If the veterans do what they do to keep any negativity off this board to try and increase the population, maybe they should spend their energy trying to improve the many faults the game has.  Because it's a fact that people leave this game shortly after starting !