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All you nay sayers need to wake up and smell the coffee!
This is Star Trek.
I am sure you have heard of the word "Trekkie", never ever take them lightly.
This game is and will always be a sure-fire success, whatever you may think, simply because of Trekkies. Add to that the fact that there is no other Star Trek game, single or multiplayer (not to mention an MMO) on the market and you have a winning formula every day and twice on Sundays! Even people who have never played an MMO in their life bought this game because they are trekkies.
So you may as well stop all these fail threads about Lifers starting to bail, or how bad the game is as it will simply not fail. The games is getting more and more content as well, the development continues, the Trekies would be happy as it is at the moment, or how it was at release.
So if you want to slate a game then I advise you try another game, maybe one that does not have an IP that is as famous as Star Trek, I would suggest WAR, but even that has a strong following, so try Tabula Rasa (oh sorry that folded already), try Vangurad, yes that is a prime candidate for a fail thread as even the producers(Sony) want it to fail so you will have more success there seeing a failed game, than you will ever do here.
Why you all want to see fail games in this genre is beyond me as it is incredibly short sighted for a person who is registered on MMORPG forum to see the downfall of any MMO, as one day you may find that all MMOs have folded besides the mainstreams ones like WoW, which the majority of people on these forums don't like anyway, but yet do not give other MMO producers a chance, even if you don't like the games they produce and think they are bad does not mean that you should try and put them down as this is contrary to being an MMO enthusiast(which you are as you are reading this and no doubt have an account on these forums).
And yes you may go on about how you don't want crap games etc but that is not how these things work, there has to a phase of crap games for good ones to come through(or any other product), so leave the slating of games to people who do not care about this genre and instead offer constructive criticism and ideas on how to make games better rather than just shouting fail all the time like an empty vessel(any numpty can do that), if you have nothing constructive to say then just keep quiet, as you are no better than those that you are slating in the first place TBH.
Thank you for your time. Hopefully you have learnt something about yourself and how to support your interest instead of shooting yourself in the foot.
They are doing it because its a StarTrek game. It's all about the fan dollar. I haven't "paid" for any C-store items yet, everything I have was free so far. Most of what they've put up is junk anyway- and the rest should either be something we can obtain ingame using energy credits. The services stuff is a given that it'd cost money, I don't have a problem with it except for the whole Per Character crap and the fact that Respecs cost money-- yet they keep changing the god damn skill tree every patch (so a new skill comes along, now you have to respec because you don't have an optimial cookie cutter build anymore.. seems like a scam to me.)
My suspicion is that if you did it to CO, there would be a massive uproar over it because CO isn't a well established IP and no one would give a flying fuck about a new cape skin the same way they would a new ship model based on an iconic TV show. It's nostalgia. I don't agree with it though and I won't be paying a cent more than the sub I already pay for.
What I find odd is some of the players see Cryptic as a charity case, so they pump money into the C-Store thinking its good for the game and the company.. WRONG.. its just telling them you're a sucker with a huge wallet. $25 for a starship.. when EvE Online give away free ships as promotions.. or that EvE Online have free Expansion packs. (FYI I dislike EvE but CCP have a far superior business model than the bs Cryptic are trying to pull on us.) $25 is about the price of a damn Expansion pack... What the fuck are they trying to pull on us?!
Simply their competitiors are doing a far better job, Cryptic are being ignorant morons if they think that they can continue to survive with this business model in such a competitive climate.
Also I don't want this game to fail.. I want it to succeed. Star Trek gaming has been through so much crap lately that to see this as the final blow would be heart breaking. So they better not let that happen. We've been through enough of this shit already.
Are you serious?
Have you even played STO? LOL! There were alot of people at launch, especially in the first month. But that has dissipated now. The game was released half-ass*d, incomplete. To top THAT off, Cryptic has the gall to put content for sale on the C-Store / Item Shop. And on top of having a C-Store / Item Shop, they're charging a Subscription or Lifetime sub! And the Klingon experience? LACKING. Always had since the beginning and always will because Cryptic caters to the Federatio. Oh sure, one of their devs posted how much he loves the Klingons in Star Trek, but the RESULTS speak for themselves with the totally lacking Klingon faction. Not to mention the game has a bad reputation by word of mouth as well as reviews. Then there's Cryptic's shady or outright idiotic PR moves (Galaxy X fiasco for instance).
If anyone needs to "smell the coffee", it's you, but you first need to wake the f*ck up.
STO is a failure.
And personally, as an old school Star Trek fan, I **hope** STO pulls the plug sometime soon.. Because I hope the rights to a Star Trek MMO goes to a better publisher, better dev team to give the Star Trek name the proper MMORPG treatment it deserves. But it's not going to happen anytime soon. Cryptic will keep STO running with its small playerbase (and milking the bejeezus out of them).
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
The fact that you want people to act this way only lends merit to the opinion that the game is in a poor state, because if it were not, you would want people to talk about the game instead of trying to force them to keep quiet.
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Hi Guys
Well I though I would pop in again to see how this game has Grown.. :-( .. Well I think shrink is the word to use now. I see all the Captains have abandoned ship ...Zink .>Roper .. And I see they are really spiting fire from there marketing engine.
Also I read the last review on MMORPG ... you cannot be be serious ..7. What! Some other site also had a re-Review ..I mean gosh its only what 8 months old!
I see there Forums have toned down but that to be expected if you don't have subscribes any longer!
Shame ... real dead duck this one. Someone should just shoot it! Its a shame to let a IP suffer like this! Then they also got NWN... what's this world coming too!
Sad day for those IP's
Actually the score given was 7.4, but since it has come to light that these websites (that use the 1-10 scoring system) start the scores at 5, the true score given was only a 2.4. Still, it is a bit early to be re-reviewing STO considering how little has actually been done compared to other MMO titles in the same amount of time. Several of the criteria used for that review (such as roleplaying) were bogus as well and took into account what the players could do on their own, rather than taking into account what the game mechanics allowed.
As far as the forums go, there really hasn't been a lot of news from STO lately. Factor that in with some big releases around the corner (DC Universe Online, SW:TOR) , some big changes to some established MMOs (LotRO's hybrid model, and WoW's upcoming Cataclysm), and I don't think you'll see as much forum activity (unless Cryptic makes another blunder).
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
It's kind of sad really. I enjoyed wacthing both the pros and cons slug it out. But I believe the game doesnt really generate that much passion.
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If you like popcorn material, you should of seen when SOE launched the NGE.
Folks were losing their mind....literally.
If you are evr bored, I suggest heading over to the SWG brds on this site, and going back to posts from end of November 05. Eventually they move to the vet forum.
You cant make that stuff up....awesome popcorn material.
As far as STO.....what was that sig? "Its dead Jim". If they had bothered to put 5 yrs of Dev time into game, and then polished it all before launch, Crytpic would of been printing money.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
People tend to move on.. numbers don't lie STO had a massive number of sub falloff in the months after launch. Never recovered. Cryptic is even moving on shifting people onto new games they are working on.
After logging in over the past week I'm starting to think the only people left are lifers checking in to see what's new, Cryptic employees playing at the Cryptic in house game room, and new trial subscribers that waited to try this after the bad launch. Definitely no passion for this game at all, but that's what happens when your game can't hold people for more than one or two months.
im a lifer and im glad i got it because i like it. I look at it this way i have no complaints with it im having fun with it and if it goes up and flames then so be it, i paid money out of my pocket, i go with it all the way.
you do realise that this thread is almost a year old?
that its talking about the mass exodus of people who bought LTS at launch, got the game then quit.
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
This thread is old and to avoid further confusion, I'm going to lock it up.
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