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This could be the new EQ
pencilrick
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Ever since EQ1, I've been waiting for a "new" game that captures the vastness, freedom, harshess, beauty, and wonder of that game. In looking at the progression if FF XIV, I am beginning to think that this game will be it.
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God, I hope so. I miss the incredibly overwhelming vastness of EQ...
I'm holding out for the exact same thing. Something to capture the EQ1/Vanguard feeling. FFXI had a similiar feeling but I couldn't get over the horrible (to me at least) interface and controls. FF14 looks like it is aiming for old school feeling. The trick is, will they be able to pull off that immersion, and still provide the convenience of the more recent MMOs.
You can change your controls in FFXI you know...
and yeah, I've never played EQ but I hope FFXIV will have the same feeling older MMos did.
Same exact hope. I loved EQ1 and then I got that same feel with Vanguard. I'm hoping FFXIV can deliver in the same way EQ1 and Vanguard did.
I never played EQ1, but I did play EQOA on the ps2, which was supposed to take place 1000 years before or after EQ1. SO the world was somewhat the same, With towns like Freeport and Qeynos I think was in EQ1. I really loved that game, it popped my MMORPG cherry persay.
Everquest really had a way of instant immersion, it drew you in from the very beginning. From your starting city, to the gameplay, to the classes and even the colorfull world. Something about it made you want to play it.
I agree. EQ was my cherry popper. FFXIV will hopefully be the game we're all dreaming of.
I agree as well on this subject! My first MMORPG was Everquest as well, and I was immediately hooked. I have NEVER found a game that could compare to everything that Everquest offered me in the 6 years I played it. If not for most of my friends having departed the game and so forth, I probably would have kept playing it. Why??? It was just THAT good, the immersion, my enchanter was my all time favorite toon to play (as you can tell by my avatar to the left...that is my enchanter Tashani
) and have always longed to have a class on any MMO since then to make me feel so useful to a group, plus the fact I loved the class beyond reproach (and still do!). I will give Final Fantasy XIV a serious look if they are indeed trying to go in the 'old school' direction the OP mentions, I had no idea that was their intent. I am pretty excited on this revelation, to say the least!!!
Just as long as I can't lose my corpse in FFXIV! =D
I think we all hope for that outcome. It definately has potential. I hope it releases for the 360 as well though. Even though I play mainly PC. The graphics look amazing.
EQ was my first as well, and I remain a lover of co-op social MMORPGs, something that I hope FFXIV will be.
My two main fears are;
100% enabled solo play; if this happens, if you allow people to solo, they WILL take the path of least resistance and solo, and bang will go the community. While I do not believe in enforced grouping, I also do not believe in enforced soloing (which is the road pretty much all games now follow). If you create a game where people are not inter reliant and reputation dosent matter, in todays mmo culture, you will have a horrible game.
Micro Transactions; While I don't want to turn this into a massive debate about MT, the fact is that I don't personally like it as a revenue model and consider it a game breaker. Like I say though, I don't want to debate it here, this is jut a personal view.
All in all though the game is looking great, maybe the best alpha state I have ever seen in a mmo, and I truly believe that SE have a genuine love and passion for their franchise (unlike, say, NCSoft for Aion) and truly want to deliver a game that does it justice.
We shall see, but it all looks good right now
It depends what you mean by "100% enabled solo play." You will be able to level up solo. Evidence indicates it is faster to group and more fun to group (you can chain abilities together in a group in a more refined system than FFXI had). There will also be group-only content.
Honestly, I don't see why people think this is going to be like EQ. This thread doesn't really spell out how people will think it will be the same either. As far as I can tell there will be massive differences in the leveling experience, questing, etc.
To say a game will be like EQ is rather vague. EQ is different things to different people depending when they played. Players who stopped playing after PoP was released remember a very different game than the current version of EQ played today.
As long as there is real incentives (extra XP, better loot, whatever) to group I will be happy. Systems that encourage the player to make the effort to seek out others for shared play is essential imo in a successful MMORPG, because inter reliance and mutual dependance is how we get wider community. Peer reputation is an important social control as well, and goes a long way to stopping the social retards running riot in what most would call 'barrens chat'.
And on the EQ thing, maybe it's not spelled out, but it's there if you look. I dont think anyone is hoping for that game systemswise, we have come a long way since then, but more on a co-op play social play community thing. I think thats the key ingredient that EQ had that the later generations of games didnt understand, and I think thats why so many stayed with it so long (and still do) and miss it so much.
If FFXIV can capture that, while providing a more accessiable modern approach, it will be a great game.
i totaly disagree
the art style of FF says enough.
anime is so immersion breaking for a good world
square even messes up deus ex with that influence
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Ok, you have expressed an opinion based on you personal visual taste, thats fair enough. We don't all agree though, and I am not sure how relevant it is to the thread, but no problem.
I won't take this as a troll, just as a spontaneous outburst of opinion lol.
i dont mind anyones taste at all
but comparing FF with the feeling of EQlike fantasy feel is beyond me
Anime always trys to be over the top and cool. where as classic western art focuses more on a surrealistic feeling
i do not hate all anime. i liked a few non mmo games that had the style
but they are rare for me
eq1 had spots where u could just sit and take in the view and watch the sun set listen to the game music and be happy
most newer games its alabout game play and less about what make players happy
in FF 14 i could see my self siting happly on one of the bridges talking to others
moo all
I don't like anime either, but I see no other flagship "free range" MMO's works. This will be another stop-gap game for me until EQ3 comes out.
Which is really my point. The thread seems largely wistful of whatever parts of EQ the given poster liked.
Well, most give extra XP to grouping (even if it diminishes the challenge). I still thing this is pretty vague as I am sure different people remember different things about EQ's community that they liked. Also, system is inherently tied up in here as the system intimately intertwined with how the game's community acts. I did read the thread, but I didn't really see many people giving specifics about what sort of community they'd like or, more significantly HOW FFXIV would deliver it.
I mean, if FFXI didn't do it for you, then I don't see how FFXIV will.
I don't know... I pretty much understand the point that people are getting at I think, you don't, and thats fine. I think your over analyzing the whole thing a little tbh.
I think it is maybe just as as simple as most just maybe wanting an inspired co-op social PvE mmorpg that has a solid company behind it that is passionate about it's game, and FFXIV looks like it could be just that.
Hey, if the Cooking Class involved cooking a Chocobo on a spit, I am sooo there! mmmmmmm
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I think I understand what is going on here just fine; A lot of vague nostalgia.
Again, a lot of people are saying games like this haven't been made since EQ.* My counter to that is if FFXI doesn't satisfy this need, then how is FFXIV going to be any better at it? (That question is not just rhetorical, I'm literally asking for what you see FFXIV bringing to the table that improves the social aspect that FFXI didn't or even that other MMOs don't). FFXIV is certainly a lot less hardcore than EQ or FFXI were/are. In any case, you don't see the Devs talking a lot about community building and how to design a game with that in mind from what I've read, so I don't quite understand why people think this is going to be the "new EQ".
*Though not everyone in the thread.