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I want to be a crafter only- Can I?
Liljanth
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First up, please don't kill me for asking here and not on the EVE forums (I just visit mmorpg.com more often and am more comfortable making an account and posting here).
So I have been interested in EVE for some time, tried the trial, but I dont really know if I should sub or not. I heard the economy is player driven and crafters actually mean something in EVE, but the whole space combat aspect doesn't appeal to me (and was the reason why I haven't bought EVE until today). I would rather be a crafter only and not do any combat (or, very few).
Which brings me to my question- possible or not? If yes, what skills should I learn, anything I should do?
If no, what MMOs with good crafting where I can be a crafter can you recommend? (Apart from Fallen Earth, tried that one and disliked it). Thanks!
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yes.
If you stand VERY still, and close your eyes, after a minute you can actually FEEL the universe revolving around PvP.
As said above: YES!
In eve you can do and dont whatever you want. Luckily crafting is a highly delicated option within Eve. Like crafting? JOIN US
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I would highly suggest being a null sec miner as well as a producer. You'll need a good null sec based corp to help you though. There are plenty of people in EVE who don't do any combat and just produce and mine. One of my characters can't even fly anything above a Caldari Frigate as far as combat ships go, but it can fly a Hulk, an Orca, and can produce a wide variety of different things.
I also suggest starting out with mining till you get those skills where you need them to be, with just a few skills to help you produce a few things to satisify your crafting urges.
In all honesty, you're really not going to make a whole lot producing T1 junk, which is really the only thing you're gonig to be able to do effectively in high sec w/o a corp.
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You certainly can be a "crafter"-only (EVE players prefer "industrial" to "crafter", btw) There is a tremendously complex, competitive and wide player economy in EVE, vastly more involved than any other game I've heard of.
But.
Just because you have decided to be a crafter, no limit is placed on other players interactions with you. In other words, even if you decide you dont want to shoot at other people, they're free to decide to shoot at you. And sooner or later, some of them will try. As long as you're OK with that, then go to it and goo luck in the best player economy in any MMO.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
I don't do industry, I only shoot stuff. (outside of datacore mining)
That said, I'm one of your future best customers, because I have to buy ship hulls and T2 modules almost every week, sometimes in bulk and I buy them from people who focus on creating and selling them to me.
Does EVE have a great environment for crafters? Absolutely. Everytime my ship gets popped, (or I do the same to someone else) there's going to be someone in the market to buy your stuff.
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I've a character who does nothing but builds the Dreads and Carriers, thats what I had in mind for that one from day one, even though now, I'm out of that crafting business. My Business partner had a heart attack, and, had to leave Eve, for his health.
There is no reason why you can't set up a crafter business, the game has so many potentials.
he will rage quit becouse of 0.01 isk
It's easy to be a dedicated manufacturer in eve
all you need is some minerals and/or components, a blueprint (copy[BPC] or original[BPO]) and a factory slot
all your needed skills will be found in the
[Industry]
[Science]
[Spaceship Command]
[Trade]
categories.
BPO's are sold by npc vendors, different regions will vary available stock slightly. When you buy them they are unresearched.
Public Factory/Research stations can have very lengthy queues on availability, so you may need to consider investing in your own personal Research/Manufacting setup (this is not a cheap option, and keeping it supplied can feel like a 2nd job)
You will need to invest training time into a racial Industrial ship, and possibly Transports. Freighters/Jump Freighters are more Tradey than Manufacturey.
You may want to consider Mining/Ice Mining as a means of making ISK initially (a Battleship BPO costs around 500-900m ISK)
If you dont fancy mining, running NPC courier missions will earn you iskies too (the Industrial/Transport ships help here too), be careful of player-created courier contracts and CHECK THEM VERY CAREFULLY, at least twice, and then get a 2nd opinion to make sure.
NB
The [xyz shipclass] construction skills (under Industry) are only needed for making the advanced Tech2 ships of that size, and you dont need them to make normal frigates/cruisers etc.
enjoy
In addition to mining, mission running also benefits other areas of industry. For my character, being able to run missions was important for increasing standings (reputation) so that he could access the best research agents. These agents enable my character to gather datacores, which are an import part of invention (another area of industry that focuses on advanced equipment and ships).
There are many other aspects of the game that can help with industry (exploration, salvaging, hacking, etc.), but if you are willing to spend more you can always buy the items you need for production from others.
Best of luck.
unless I'm mistaken, crafting is about to get a very big upgrade : )
Might be the perfect time to jump in and learn about planetary interaction, as I don't think anyone really knows what it will be like.
Thanks for all the answers!
I am just downloading the trial (again). If I like it after these 14 days, I will subscribe.
you could always look at the 21-day trial thread and get 7 extra days to try it out.
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Didn't notice such a thread existed ^^. Thanks for the tip, I will!
i suggest u try Mortal Online if u are ready for a buggy game wich is still on beta; the crafting system is pretty awesome and complex and as far as i know u can be a great crafter without even wielding a weapon ever.
hehehe
wait - you were serious? i thought it was a joke.
didnt you ment "you can be a great way for PKs to get easy mats without much effort"?
you certain can!
i met someone about the same time I started eve and while he may have dabbled around in combat his machine isnt really up to scratch for it, and all he's done is crafted, traded, invented and now is one of the richest players I know. about 60Billion ISK in the waller and a further 100Billion in assets!.. has about 7 alts, owns several of his own player owned stations.
To add to that he doesnt really spend much time on eve at all, with a family of 3 kids he has everything setup and just comes on to adjust contracts and deal with requests
Combat is actually the easiest thing to do in eve when compared to the intricacys of crafting and market trading, but you do need patience and a great deal of understanding as to why certain things sell etc.
I'd also suggest that its one of the most secretive parts of eve, so I wish you the very best of luck.
Benedikt mate, pls explain to us how can a pk enter in a town and hit you till you die; unless u are in one of the 2 pk cities that is no possible at all.
Edit: wrong spelling ;P
he cannt - in town. but how you will get mats? buy them all? as a new player? dont think so
Dont want to be too off topic, nor disagree with u, but since second 1 with weapon/armoursmith background u can craft basic materials like basic woods, more than enough to craft wooden weapons for noobs; normally then you will keep material leftovers or some cuprum or silver coins for your effort, u can also farm some wood into city limits. 100% true.
One of best armourcrafter i have met ingame just standed close to his workbench he totally owned that city, later i learned that the guy had an accident at work and could use just one hand while recovering, i mean i assure you he was not into pvp at all.
So i must say again MO is a game where u can be a succesfull crafter without ever killing a thing, nor dying.
ok, maybe i am wrong then
You have my respect Sr.
This guide will help you in your career as a manufactuer.
http://evefiles.mysterious-mysteries.com/eve-online_science_and_industry_guide.html
EVE is a very pretty game. The economy is player driven. You will need marketing skills along with the crafting.
Warning: crafting is god awful dull. After you find a facility with an open production slot, enter the blueprint. Make sure the necessary raw material is handy and then.....watch a counter count down. Oh the excitement! That's right, you are building a new star ship and the graphic is a timer counting down. CCP must have spent several seconds coming up with that! If you are making a large number of ...say ammunition it can be quite awhile for things to finish. A bunch of ships even longer. You will need to come up with something else to do while the timer runs down.
Perhaps finding a more interesting game would be a good choice.
Because crafting in other games is so much better right?
... give me a break. Even SWG the crafting was get X materials and click craft. If you know a game where the crafting is super fun please let us know, because saying EVE's crafting sucks then not stating a better alternative is just trolling.
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Please describe for us the actions a player must do to craft in EVE. Feel free to use your own words. Try to help us understand the excitement of EVE crafting.
Did I state something incorrect about EVE crafting? Please any or all, go try it. Then come back to these forums and tell us all about it.
Trolling is trying to cause irritation to others on purpose. I gave my opinion on EVE crafting.
Don't feel too bad. I haven't found a game that does crafting justice. Maybe one day a developer will give crafting the same amount of attention they give to combat. (Sorry, wandered off into fantasyland.)