While I am sure this has been re-hashed many times in our forums, I am looking for a more recent update, than the arguments i have found. Being we are probably all gamers here, what are your experiences? Windows 7 performing better in gaming than vista?
I will probably ugrade to windows 7 64bit eventually. But I have a question about ram. My system runs off of ddr2 ram. Can I eventually replace my ddr2 with ddr3? Or is ram dependant on your motherboard?
While Vista is a hell of a lot better than it was around the time of its launch, I would have to say Windows 7 would be the way to go now.
Windows 7 is just a lot thinner than Vista was, using less resources and giving the user a boost in performance. Its also a cleaner UI.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I will probably ugrade to windows 7 64bit eventually. But I have a question about ram. My system runs off of ddr2 ram. Can I eventually replace my ddr2 with ddr3? Or is ram dependant on your motherboard?
Its all about the mobo.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I will probably ugrade to windows 7 64bit eventually. But I have a question about ram. My system runs off of ddr2 ram. Can I eventually replace my ddr2 with ddr3? Or is ram dependant on your motherboard?
if its an intel i would add ram probably can get them used for very cheap hell you can probably get a similar used computer for 150$and the 6600 intel proc or similar are still very speedy even by todays standard
the diff between ddr3 and ddr2 isnt that big!there is one but you would gain a lot more by installing a ssd and w7 instead of buying a 1500 $ computer it will cost to get a proper one that wont go faster then your current one
and a ssd is about 200$if you upgrade from xp to w7 its fairly inexpensive if i recall w7 upgrade was 125 $there were even 30$ deal for student if im not mistaken about the price!
Meh, I want to change from ddr2 to ddr3 simply because I can. Im kinda wanting a new pc anyway, so ill just get one with ddr3 in it to begin with. I can only upgrade so much in my current pc anyway.
I'm going to have to agree with Kamilus. Having DD2 does not, in itself, necessarily mean that a PC is too old to play games. Now, if you're running that memory with a Netbust based CPU or are otherwise packing very old hardware, memory aside, then yes, you need to upgrade. If your using a Core 2 or socket AM2+ based CPU, though, then you're just fine, honestly. Upgrading is pointless with both Intel* and AMD poised to replace their present CPU setups next year.
I know, but Im probably just going to use the one im using now as a backup pc, and use a new pc for gaming. I realize this will be a little expensive but im good for it soon. I like new things.
I know, but Im probably just going to use the one im using now as a backup pc, and use a new pc for gaming. I realize this will be a little expensive but im good for it soon. I like new things.
Yeah, but you don't want to build a new PC less than a year before fundemental design changes are made to CPUs. There's nothing worse that one can do than buy into dying hardware standards.
I know, but Im probably just going to use the one im using now as a backup pc, and use a new pc for gaming. I realize this will be a little expensive but im good for it soon. I like new things.
Yeah, but you don't want to build a new PC less than a year before fundemental design changes are made to CPUs. There's nothing worse that one can do than buy into dying hardware standards.
True. I suppose I should wait for this to happen first LOL. Anyway... whats changing about cpu design? Is there a site I should go to to read up on this type of thing to see whats happening? Sorry if you guys with more hardware knowledge are doing a /facepalm as we speak lol.
Also... sorry if i sort of moved the topic from windows 7 to this. I still would like to try it out, as I have heard good things about it over vista. I know I will be getting the 64 bit version, though on a newer computer in about a year or so.
No one mentioned Vista 64 edition? its fast and very stable. I would say that Vista 64 bit edition is on par with Win 7 64 but in terls of performance.
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I know, but Im probably just going to use the one im using now as a backup pc, and use a new pc for gaming. I realize this will be a little expensive but im good for it soon. I like new things.
Yeah, but you don't want to build a new PC less than a year before fundemental design changes are made to CPUs. There's nothing worse that one can do than buy into dying hardware standards.
True. I suppose I should wait for this to happen first LOL. Anyway... whats changing about cpu design? Is there a site I should go to to read up on this type of thing to see whats happening? Sorry if you guys with more hardware knowledge are doing a /facepalm as we speak lol.
Well I know little of what Intel is up to for late 2010/2011, but AMD is unveiling Bulldozer, which will be the first fundemental redesign of their microarchitecture in three years. Details are scarce, but they're now CPUs will have built-in GPUs (which, even in systems with a dedicated GPU, should enable faster computing for GPGPU functions), and AMD is developing something of an answer to hyperthreading, though their equivalent technology is going to be much, much more sophisticated and powerful.
Again, details are scarce, but in short, you can expect vastly more powerful CPUs to come from AMD, while I expect Intel to have their own upgrades in the works.
Hardware and software are both always changing. No matter how long you wait or what you wait for. The day the hardware hits the market it is already old.
That is just how PC Hardware is. By the time the silicon starts to get placed to mass produce the hardware there is already a new design in the pipeline and under testing.
The thing is just to pick a point where / when you want to upgrade and go for it. Just remember no matter what you do within a year or two the hardware and stuff you picked is going to be considered old by the standards of that time.
Such is attempting to stay up with hardware and gaming. Things are always going to improve and new designs / ideas will be put out there. Just like several years ago the big things was multiple physical cpu's. Then along came duel cores, then quad cores, ect. Now GPU's are being phased into computing chips that go well beyond just displaying graphics and cruching math at a fast rate.
If you wait and put off upgrading for a year or two, by the time you do decide to upgrade in a year or two, then something will be on the horizon that is better in a year or two from that time.
I say if you have a old box and have the money and want to upgrade. Go for it. Don't keep putting things off chasing the dream that its going to be the best thing out there if you wait.
As far as Vista or Windows 7. Might as well go with Windows 7 as its the improved Vista that is going to be supported for some time longer then Vista will be. Or you might wait two years and pickup Windows 8. See theres that issue with evolving hardware and software. Go with whatever you feel best suits you.
Well I know little of what Intel is up to for late 2010/2011, but AMD is unveiling Bulldozer, which will be the first fundemental redesign of their microarchitecture in three years. Details are scarce, but they're now CPUs will have built-in GPUs (which, even in systems with a dedicated GPU, should enable faster computing for GPGPU functions), and AMD is developing something of an answer to hyperthreading, though their equivalent technology is going to be much, much more sophisticated and powerful.
Again, details are scarce, but in short, you can expect vastly more powerful CPUs to come from AMD, while I expect Intel to have their own upgrades in the works.
*picks up jaw off the floor*
Oh. Well.. I think you make a good point there! I hate waiting, but it sounds like its going to be the smartest choice.
I know, but Im probably just going to use the one im using now as a backup pc, and use a new pc for gaming. I realize this will be a little expensive but im good for it soon. I like new things.
Yeah, but you don't want to build a new PC less than a year before fundemental design changes are made to CPUs. There's nothing worse that one can do than buy into dying hardware standards.
True. I suppose I should wait for this to happen first LOL. Anyway... whats changing about cpu design? Is there a site I should go to to read up on this type of thing to see whats happening? Sorry if you guys with more hardware knowledge are doing a /facepalm as we speak lol.
Well I know little of what Intel is up to for late 2010/2011, but AMD is unveiling Bulldozer, which will be the first fundemental redesign of their microarchitecture in three years. Details are scarce, but they're now CPUs will have built-in GPUs (which, even in systems with a dedicated GPU, should enable faster computing for GPGPU functions), and AMD is developing something of an answer to hyperthreading, though their equivalent technology is going to be much, much more sophisticated and powerful.
Again, details are scarce, but in short, you can expect vastly more powerful CPUs to come from AMD, while I expect Intel to have their own upgrades in the works.
yes!amd asnt been sleeping for the last 10 month (last time they released!)thats for sure!
what they are up to tho is anybodys guess!but with the sleeping dragon(ibm)helping them i have no doubt when it is released not any competitor will like the news be it intel or nvidia!
Well I know little of what Intel is up to for late 2010/2011, but AMD is unveiling Bulldozer, which will be the first fundemental redesign of their microarchitecture in three years. Details are scarce, but they're now CPUs will have built-in GPUs (which, even in systems with a dedicated GPU, should enable faster computing for GPGPU functions), and AMD is developing something of an answer to hyperthreading, though their equivalent technology is going to be much, much more sophisticated and powerful.
Again, details are scarce, but in short, you can expect vastly more powerful CPUs to come from AMD, while I expect Intel to have their own upgrades in the works.
*picks up jaw off the floor*
Oh. Well.. I think you make a good point there! I hate waiting, but it sounds like its going to be the smartest choice.
Intel is working on the same theme for their next line of CPUs as well (the whole on chip GPU thing), so it should be interesting in the next round of the CPU faceoffs.
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The vista of today is not the vista of 2 years ago. Having said that, both WinXP and Windows 7 outperform vista.
One of the best things i experienced with Win7 was stability, in both gaming and general use.
My only suggestion would be to get the 64bit edition if you have 4G or more ram (or plan to upgrade)
w7 64 bit is the os of choice!
most gamer go that route very stable in 64 bit and 32 bit application
i have yet to have issue with it ,often the worst that will happen ms will send you in compatibility mode (never happened yet)
so my advice go w7 64 bit!
I will probably ugrade to windows 7 64bit eventually. But I have a question about ram. My system runs off of ddr2 ram. Can I eventually replace my ddr2 with ddr3? Or is ram dependant on your motherboard?
While Vista is a hell of a lot better than it was around the time of its launch, I would have to say Windows 7 would be the way to go now.
Windows 7 is just a lot thinner than Vista was, using less resources and giving the user a boost in performance. Its also a cleaner UI.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Its all about the mobo.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
lol yeah. DDR3 won't fit in DDR2 and vice versa.
Either way, I would highly suggest getting 64bit.
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Ok lol. Im glad I asked before I spent money on ram I cant use. Prolly just get a new pc then... get rid of this junky dell inspiron 518 lol.
if its an intel i would add ram probably can get them used for very cheap hell you can probably get a similar used computer for 150$and the 6600 intel proc or similar are still very speedy even by todays standard
the diff between ddr3 and ddr2 isnt that big!there is one but you would gain a lot more by installing a ssd and w7 instead of buying a 1500 $ computer it will cost to get a proper one that wont go faster then your current one
and a ssd is about 200$if you upgrade from xp to w7 its fairly inexpensive if i recall w7 upgrade was 125 $there were even 30$ deal for student if im not mistaken about the price!
But why do you want to change yours ddr2 into ddr3? Just buy more of ddr2 and you can give few years of life to your current PC.
W7 is working just fine with even just 2GB of RAM.
Meh, I want to change from ddr2 to ddr3 simply because I can. Im kinda wanting a new pc anyway, so ill just get one with ddr3 in it to begin with. I can only upgrade so much in my current pc anyway.
I'm going to have to agree with Kamilus. Having DD2 does not, in itself, necessarily mean that a PC is too old to play games. Now, if you're running that memory with a Netbust based CPU or are otherwise packing very old hardware, memory aside, then yes, you need to upgrade. If your using a Core 2 or socket AM2+ based CPU, though, then you're just fine, honestly. Upgrading is pointless with both Intel* and AMD poised to replace their present CPU setups next year.
Edit: Intel, not Nvidia
I know, but Im probably just going to use the one im using now as a backup pc, and use a new pc for gaming. I realize this will be a little expensive but im good for it soon. I like new things.
Yeah, but you don't want to build a new PC less than a year before fundemental design changes are made to CPUs. There's nothing worse that one can do than buy into dying hardware standards.
upgrade your actual one next year buy a new one!we ll all be playing wow this year anyway so your old computer will be overkill for wow!
True. I suppose I should wait for this to happen first LOL. Anyway... whats changing about cpu design? Is there a site I should go to to read up on this type of thing to see whats happening? Sorry if you guys with more hardware knowledge are doing a /facepalm as we speak lol.
Also... sorry if i sort of moved the topic from windows 7 to this. I still would like to try it out, as I have heard good things about it over vista. I know I will be getting the 64 bit version, though on a newer computer in about a year or so.
Hm, I have 4 gb ram and windows 7 32 bit edition, is there a problem?
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next gen intel is called sandy bridge.should begin production at the start of 2011 was shown in asia
its a nice piece everything on it will be 32 nm in size!
No one mentioned Vista 64 edition? its fast and very stable. I would say that Vista 64 bit edition is on par with Win 7 64 but in terls of performance.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
Well I know little of what Intel is up to for late 2010/2011, but AMD is unveiling Bulldozer, which will be the first fundemental redesign of their microarchitecture in three years. Details are scarce, but they're now CPUs will have built-in GPUs (which, even in systems with a dedicated GPU, should enable faster computing for GPGPU functions), and AMD is developing something of an answer to hyperthreading, though their equivalent technology is going to be much, much more sophisticated and powerful.
Again, details are scarce, but in short, you can expect vastly more powerful CPUs to come from AMD, while I expect Intel to have their own upgrades in the works.
Hardware and software are both always changing. No matter how long you wait or what you wait for. The day the hardware hits the market it is already old.
That is just how PC Hardware is. By the time the silicon starts to get placed to mass produce the hardware there is already a new design in the pipeline and under testing.
The thing is just to pick a point where / when you want to upgrade and go for it. Just remember no matter what you do within a year or two the hardware and stuff you picked is going to be considered old by the standards of that time.
Such is attempting to stay up with hardware and gaming. Things are always going to improve and new designs / ideas will be put out there. Just like several years ago the big things was multiple physical cpu's. Then along came duel cores, then quad cores, ect. Now GPU's are being phased into computing chips that go well beyond just displaying graphics and cruching math at a fast rate.
If you wait and put off upgrading for a year or two, by the time you do decide to upgrade in a year or two, then something will be on the horizon that is better in a year or two from that time.
I say if you have a old box and have the money and want to upgrade. Go for it. Don't keep putting things off chasing the dream that its going to be the best thing out there if you wait.
As far as Vista or Windows 7. Might as well go with Windows 7 as its the improved Vista that is going to be supported for some time longer then Vista will be. Or you might wait two years and pickup Windows 8. See theres that issue with evolving hardware and software. Go with whatever you feel best suits you.
*picks up jaw off the floor*
Oh. Well.. I think you make a good point there! I hate waiting, but it sounds like its going to be the smartest choice.
ya but like i say why make them spend 1500 $ for a shinny new toy only to know they ll play wow for the next 12 month when august come!
There is not so huge problem, but... ~1GB is wasted in your PC. Yours OS can't use it.
yes!amd asnt been sleeping for the last 10 month (last time they released!)thats for sure!
what they are up to tho is anybodys guess!but with the sleeping dragon(ibm)helping them i have no doubt when it is released not any competitor will like the news be it intel or nvidia!
Intel is working on the same theme for their next line of CPUs as well (the whole on chip GPU thing), so it should be interesting in the next round of the CPU faceoffs.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"